election this year, and i'm doing a fireside chat with joe scarborough on that. we're honoring whoopie goldberg, she'll be there, and the women, i'm breaking the surprise, want to give something to mika. we're going to have everybody there. the whole team will be there, and i think that it is important people come to the session. it's free. go to nationalactionnetwork.net. >> we'll certainly be looking forward to that, and of course this weekend we've got the final four, women tonight, the men including your alabama crimson tide tomorrow. >> i will tell you what, we're all just hoping that alabama keeps it close. all right, well, that does it for us this morning. thank you so much for being with us. ana cabrera picks up the coverage right now. right now on "ana cabrera reports," we are following breaking news.

israel releasing its report on the air strike that killed seven aid workers calling it a grave mistake and dismissing top ranking officials from their posts. we have reaction from world central kitchen and the white house. plus, on the donald trump legal fight, on that front, a judge rejecting trump's bid to throw out the federal classified documents case, as legal experts warn the special counsel could be close to pressing a legal nuclear button. also ahead, president biden heads to baltimore. his message following that deadly bridge collapse. and later, total eclipse of the sun. we'll help you get ready for monday's big show in the sky. ♪♪ thank you so much for joining us on this friday. i'm ana cabrera. it is 10:00 eastern, and we begin with the breaking news. the idf releasing the results of its investigation into that deadly air strike that killed

seven aid workers from world central kitchen in gaza. the report calling it a grave mistake and detailing how the idf, quote, mistakenly assumed hamas gunmen were inside the world central kitchen vehicles. israel also saying two high-ranking members of the idf have now been dismissed from their posts and three others formally reprimanded. world central kitchen responding to this report saying it's a start but not enough and demanding an independent investigation right away. joining us now is nbc news meagan fitzgerald, nbc's allie raffa at the white house, and joel rubin, former deputy assistant secretary of state in the obama administration. let's start with meagan. walk us through this report. >> reporter: the idf starts by saying their forces first identified a gunman on one of the aid trucks and then identified an additional gunman. after the vehicles left the warehouse where the aid had been

unloaded, one of the commanders mistakenly assumed that hamas operatives were in the vehicles and that they didn't know, in fact, it was world central kitchen staff. the idf is calling it a grave mistake, stemming from a serious failure. they're also taking action. we're told that they dismissed two high ranking commanders on the ground and reprimanded osteo. others. the idf said this shouldn't happen and they'll be making sure it doesn't happen again. moments ago, secretary blinken said the u.s. will be fully assessing the idf's report and said they're not just looking to see what steps are being taken but the results of those steps. as you mentioned, world central kitchen is responding this morning. they released a statement saying it's clear from the preliminary investigation that the idf has deployed deadly force without regard to its own protocols, chain of commands and rules of engagement. it went on to say that they're demanding an independent investigation. look, there's no doubt about it.

international condemnation just continues to grow with israel's staunchest allies denouncing their actions, and of course public opinion on the way israel's carrying out this war, ana, just continues to drastically shift around the world. >> and allie, the secretary of state also had called for an independent investigation before this report came out. are we hearing any more response from the white house this morning? >> yeah, ana, in just the last hour on the tarmac in brussels, we heard the secretary of state say that u.s. officials are carefully reviewing this report, this conclusion of the israeli investigation into this strike. he says that u.s. officials will be discussing it with their israeli counterparts as well as officials with humanitarian organizations over the next coming days. listen to more of his comments here. >> it's very important that israel is taking full responsibility for this incident. it's also important that it appears to be taking steps to

hold those responsible accountable. even more important is making sure that steps are taken going forward to ensure that something like this can never happen again. >> reporter: and on that independent investigation he called for, it's still unclear what the next steps could be, when they could possibly happen and who could potentially lead that. we saw national -- john kirby with the national security council on the "today" show this morning in addition to saying the u.s. is carefully reviewing this say that u.s. officials won't make any judgment until that careful review is concluded. so this is still a major outstanding question we have as we continue to monitor the developments moving forward. >> it sounds like there are still a lot of questions people pt answered. world central kitchen saying they want an independent probe saying the idf cannot credibly investigate its own failure in gaza. what do you think? is this report enough?

>> well, ana, i've got to say that was really quick. almost overnight israel produces a report after president biden leans in with prime minister netanyahu reads him the riot act. this also should raise some concerns about the protocol for how accountability is advanced by the idf right now. accountability for the operators on the ground, it's not good enough because there are political signals that they're also getting and, quite frankly, they weren't taken seriously, the standard operating procedures for how to execute strikes, and they were not paying attention to what the information they had on hand at that moment that was provided to them by their colleagues through the -- with the world central kitchen being directly engaged. so some political accountability is needed as well. and i think that message is starting to get through, but president biden by pushing that, he's making the right call. israel, remember, they're now getting more isolated than they ever have been in this war, and

they are losing the united states day by day, and we are their primary backer and supporter, and if you lose the united states and, frankly, they have not gotten the deal yet from hostages, there's a real concern about their ability to have an effective end state that does take care of the palestinian people at the same time. >> now, we have this one really tragic awful incident, but there's also the bigger picture here and allie, we know the president spoke by phone with prime minister netanyahu just yesterday, and we're told the president reportedly warned of possible policy changes to come on the u.s. side if israel doesn't change course. what kind of change is the u.s. seeking or demanding, frankly? . >> reporter: yeah, ana on this roughly 30 minute call between president biden and prime minister netanyahu, the president warned netanyahu -- i'm going to reference the

readout of this call -- to quote address civilian harm, humanitarian suffering and the safety of aid workers in addition to israel working to get to a yes on a hostage deal to ensure the release of hostages from gaza, u.s. policy towards israel would change. now, he didn't say exactly how that would change, what would possibly shift as far as u.s. policy, but the white house is saying that they wanted to see these results within a matter of hours or days, and we know from a u.s. official that the president warned and was very stern with prime minister netanyahu, he strongly implied that one of those conditions, one of those shifts could be a condition of military aid, future u.s. military aid to israel if the country didn't meet these requests by the united states, that the white house says they will fully assess these and make a determination moving forward. that pressure seemed to have worked because overnight, just

hours after this phone call, we know that the israeli government opened up another border crossing. it also opened up a port and it ramped up humanitarian aid deliveries into gaza, ana. >> or at least it says that's what it plans to do, joel, but israel's been saying all along that they're not blocking aid. yet the world's watching the people there in gaza starve. john kirby was on the "today" show this morning as we've discussed. this is just a little bit of what he had to say. >> is the u.s. prepared to cut military aid to israel if you do not see the results you want? >> i don't want to get ahead of the president or close down any of his decision space, savannah. he made it clear yesterday if we don't see meaningful changes in their policy, we'll have to make changes to our policy, and i think i better just leave it at that. >> joel, how much patience should the u.s. have here? it's been six months, of course, since october 7th. what could the next step be or should it be if there is not a

major change? >> yeah, ana, remember to your question earlier, it's trust but verify. israel has promised for many months many actions at the behest of secretary blinken and the white house trying to get them to open up ports for humanitarian assistance, and it has not occurred in a manner that's taken care of the palestinian people in gaza. and this is the crux of what the president was trying to get across the other night. he really controls all the labors of power right now. he can unilaterally decide to cut aid to israels, to put condition on aid, all of that is at his control directly. there's a lot of support and pressure clearly coming from congress and politically as well, but the president made it clear. as commander in chief, it's crucial to ensure that this war is being enacted in a manner that does achieve israel's military goals and long-term security goals, and that means a

peaceful path to a two-state solution with the palestinians. clearly that's not being met, and clearly now the concern about this horrible situation for the gazan people where the president is not seeing any moves forward, it just makes it quite clear to netanyahu that he can't control whether or not more aid goes forward and what that will look like and what conditions the u.s. can place on that. that is directly in the commander in chief's purview. >> joe rubin, meagan fitzgerald, allie raffa, thank you so much. tonight lester holt sits down with the families of americans abducted by hamas. >> are these actions in gaza right now complicating any effort to get your loved ones out? >> the pressure on israel to stop the fight and provide cease fire and humanitarian support to gaza is obviously increasing.

yet hamas, isis can stop everything by releasing the hostages and putting down their weapons. so we got to remember who are the bad guys here. >> again, you can catch more of that interview on nbc "nightly news" with lester holt this evening. when we're back in 60 seconds, pressing the nuclear button, what the special counsel could do in trump's classified documents case. plus, i'll talk to the chief of the u.s. army corps of engineers about president biden's visit to baltimore today as recovery efforts remain daunting after that deadly bridge collapse. also, we have new jobs numbers out this morning, what they signal about our country's economic health. and later. ♪ turn around bright eyes ♪ i can't help but think about that song when i hear those words, monday's total eclipse of the sun, we'll have a preview

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donald trump's latest bid to throw out one of his legal cases has just failed. judge aileen cannon denying trump's motion to dismiss the mar-a-lago classified documents case rejecting his argument that the national security documents were personal papers. but there's still significant tension between the judge and special counsel jack smith with experts telling nbc news that smith's next step could be to seek for the removal of judge cannon herself. and joining us now is state attorney for palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg, and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst, joyce vance. so joyce, judge cannon has rejected trump's bid to dismiss this case based on the presidential records act. does that put this defense to bed? >> the problem with the ruling is that it doesn't, ana. the ruling is good insofar as it

goes. she says she's not dismissing the prosecution for now. the problem is she leaves open the possibility that this issue could be resurfaced at trial, and of course for prosecutors, once the trial begins, the jury is sworn in, double jeopardy attaches, and what that means is the government can't try the case a second time under double jeopardy, so if the judge were to dismiss down the road based on the presidential records act, the case would be over. donald trump would be acquitted. prosecutors will have to find a way of preventing that from happening. it may come in the form of a motion to recuse. it could be another type of motion in advance of trial. that's very likely the conversation happening in the special counsel's office this morning. >> so dave, you say the special counsel, jack smith, could be close to pushing the quote, unquote, nuclear button. explain what you mean. >> yeah, jack smith has had it up to here i think with judge cannon. you can imagine what he's saying

behind the scenes because his pleading was very robust against her. i can understand why he's getting frustrated because those jury instructions were totally an erroneous interpretation of the pra, presidential records act. so what can he do? he can't appeal the jury instructions yet because they're not a final order. they're not even jury instructions. they're just like suggestions. we want you to discuss amongst yourselves, and so he's stuck in like legal purgatory. what does he do? he could try to recuse her. you got to go to the 11th circuit, and it's rare to do that. or perhaps he can file a motion in limine which says prevent donald trump from bringing up the pra as part of his defense. it's up to the judge to set the motion for a hearing and rule on it. she's got jack smith pretty much in a bad situation, if he wants

to call her manager, he essentially needs permission from her to do so. >> could he go to the 11th circuit right now and say i have evidence for why this judge should be recused? >> he's got to show bias, and it's hard. it's a high burden. and also, if he wants to show that she was erroneous, made a mistake when it came to the jury instructions he can't do so yet because there are no jury instructions yet. >> it's a state of limbo we're stuck in. >> it's a state of purgatory. he can go ahead and ask for the recusal. in georgia, judge scot mcafee denied another bid by trump to throw out that case. trump's lawyers tried to claim first amendment protections arguing it was all political speech. the judge rejected that. was that move by judge mcafee surprising at all? >> it wasn't surprising in any way. trump has made this argument in the district of columbia case and also here in georgia saying that the conduct he's charged with is protected by the first amendment, that it's political speech.

so ana, the way i think about this is that if someone walks into a bank and says stick em up and give me all of your money, that's the crime of bank robbery. it's not protected speech. what prosecutors have charged donald trump with in georgia is not the speech itself. it's the conduct in interfering with the election and perpetrating a rico violation. every reason to expect that the judge would have denied this motion as he did. >> we only have about a minute here, dave, but where does this leave trump's georgia case then? is he running out of ways to slow things down? >> yeah, but this case is not going to go before the election. in fact, i think -- >> why no trial date yet? >> because they had to deal with all this stuff about the recusal of the district attorney, and you have a lot of co-defendants here, and you have rico, which is a complex matter that takes months for any trial, so that case was never going to be heard before the election. in fact, the only case that we know is going to be heard is the new york hush money case, and maybe, just maybe the election

interference case in d.c. it's up to the supreme court on that one. >> we'll be watching closely and following every twist and turn. thank you so much, dave aronberg and joyce vance, happy friday to you both. we have new jobs numbers out this morning. the clues about our country's economic health, especially with it top of mind for voters heading into november. plus, a super exciting four minutes and 28 seconds. what is a total solar eclipse? why does it happen, and where can you see it? everything you need to know for monday. you knneed to know for monday

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we are back with breaking economic news, the march jobs report out this morning blowing past expectations with the u.s. adding 303,000 jobs in march. a sign of the labor market's resilience as unemployment edges slightly lower at 3.8%. and here with us now nbc's senior business correspondent christineromans. >> i would say this is a booming jobs market.

this is the number that everyone on wall street watches, everyone inside the beltway watches, and what it's telling us is that on main street, companies are hiring and jobs are being added. we could look at what these numbers look like. look at this, the highest job creation, 303,000 in any era is strong job creation. it's the most since last summer, last spring really, and it shows you this consistent, strong hiring over and over again. where are we seeing these jobs? health care. these are hospitals, nursing homes, ambulatory care centers, you know, just anything you can think of in health care is hiring. government jobs, construction jobs. these tend to be pretty high paid, and leisure and hospitality is now back where it was before the pandemic. really important progress there and the unemployment rate at 3.8%. this is the longest stretch below 4% for the jobless rate, ana, since the 1960s, a period that was another booming economy. >> so all signs point positively with this report. what about when it comes to the fed and interest rates?

what does this report mean for the possibility of interest rates being lower? >> it's so interesting. could it be that it's too good, the economy is too good, and the fed can't be cutting interest rates anytime soon, and that bothers wall street. on wall street there's this disconnect where what's really good for main street might not be so good right now for interest rates meaning the fed will keep interest rates higher for longer as it's still trying to crush inflation. a strong economy can spin off inflation. one thing about these numbers i think it's really important to note, 4.1% was the wage growth. that means the typical paycheck is growing faster than inflation. growing faster than the grocery bill. people in this poll say they don't feel it. you know, this number shows you that things are pretty good on main street, but people don't feel it. i think those inflation scars are running very, very deep, and that's a real interesting issue for sentiment in the months ahead especially in an election year. >> thanks for bringing us the data and the perspective. >> nice to see you.

the countdown is now on for an event that will be out of this world and you don't have to be a space geek to be excited. get those glasses ready because we are now just three days out from monday's total solar eclipse. people are already on their way to the 15 states along the path of totality stretching from texas to maine, and they will be able to take in a wondrous four minutes and 28 seconds where we'll get a glimpse of the moon completely blocking the sun. nbc news meteorologist angie lassman has a really cool look at what's about to happen. >> reporter: a solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes directly between the earth and the sun and the moon blocks the sun for a viewer on earth. during a total eclipse the moon lines up perfectly to fully obscure the sun resulting in totality. the result is a shadow that will cross north america from mexico to canada. this is why the 2024 eclipse event will be known as the great north american eclipse. it starts as the moon slowly

obscures more and more of the sun. as it progresses, the surroundings take on an unusual hue and shadows become crisp and detailed. as the sun dwindles to a slender crescent as seen through eclipse glasses, daylight dims and shimmering shadow bands and crescent shaped shadows might dance across the landscape. then comes totality when the soft wisps of the solar corona surround a huge hole where the sun used to be. the solar corona is the outer part of the sun's atmosphere. this corona normally hidden by the sun's brilliance becomes visible during a total solar eclipse when the moon completely blocks the sun's surface. you find yourself in an eerie twilight surrounded by a spell binding sunset glow. finally totality ends and the sequence unfolds in reverse. let's take you through the time line of how the solar eclipse will sweep across north america. the path of totality will sweep over parts of 15 u.s. states starting in texas and ending in

maine. the whole event will take about two and a half hours for the shadow to make its way from the pacific ocean across north america and over the north atlantic ocean. to witness the event, you'll need to be within the 108 to 122-mile wide path of totality. don't worry, if you're not, you'll still see quite the show with a partial eclipse visible from nearly everywhere in the united states. but some places will see it better than others, for cities in the path like dallas, indianapolis, cleveland, and buffalo totality will last approximately four minutes. during those minutes of totality, you might notice a slight temperature drop and a change in the behavior of any nearby wildlife. the mesmerizing moments of a total solar eclipse for just a few minutes make it one of nature's rarest firsthand experiences. >> angie lassman with that very cool look. thank you. and joining us now is the director of buffalo state's whit worth ferguson planetarium. kenneth williams.

good to see you. love the graphic behind you. you're there in buffalo right in that path of totality. not everyone gets to see the total eclipse. in fact, nasa reports that this total eclipse only happens once in every 100 years or so in any given location on earth. so it happens more often, but in one spot you might only see it once in a century, so have you seen one there before, and what r you most excited for? >> good morning, ana. thanks for having me on. you're right, total solar eclipses are rare. the last time buffalo and western new york experienced one was in 1925, so almost 100 years ago, and after monday, the next time there will be one here in buffalo is 120 years in the future, so it's a really special event. >> for those who aren't lucky enough to be along the path of totality, what can they expect? can they still get in on the action in some way? >> what's really nice about this eclipse is that in addition to the main shadow along that path

of totality, there's what's called the partial shadow, which will cover all of the continental united states actually. so for those folks they'll be able to see a partial solar eclipse where only part of the sun gets covered by the moon. they will need eclipse glasses to see that, but they'll be able to see depending on where they are, different amounts of sun covered. >> reporter: >> but can you explain why not everyone has that total eclipse? the sun is way out there, i think laymen would think it's so far away, shouldn't we all be able to see the same thing when it comes to the moon passing the sun? >> yeah, that's a really good point. we all see the sun, but the important part is the shadow of the moon, right? the moon is about 1/400 the size of the sun, so the shadow of the moon that hits the surface of earth and that's what causes a total solar eclipse, that's pretty narrow as we heard in that last segment. only about 110 miles wide or, so

so that's a pretty narrow width when you compare it to the size of earth. that's what makes it unusual to be in that path. most people will not see the total solar eclipse. >> okay. and we have to remember safety here, of course. i have my glasses that i picked up from the eyeglass store downstairs. it's paper. these aren't like high-tech things, but this part is high-tech. in fact, if you put them on, i can't see anything out of them even with the bright lights of the studio shining on me, so what is the safest way to view it, and how do people know for sure if the glasses they have work? >> yeah, you're right. the outer part of the glasses is just, you know, it's in cardboard, but the film in the middle, that blocks out almost all of the light from the sun, just letting in a very, very small amount. so that's what makes it safe so that you're able to look at the sun, experience the eclipse through your eclipse glasses without damaging your eyes by letting in all that extra light,

and also, the ultra violet radiation. in addition to eclipse glasses, folks can use pinhole projectors. you may have heard about those, you have a small piece or a piece of cardboard and put a small hole through it and the light goes through that small hole and projects an image of the sun. you want to be aware of the safety aspects of it so we don't have folks damaging their eyes. >> we were working to confirm some information as we were speaking because here in studio we felt a shaking a few minutes ago, actually, when our christine romans was giving her economic report, and we're now learning that there was an earthquake. people could feel shaking in new york, in boston, in philadelphia, our control room. we're told according to the u.s. geological survey, it was a 4.8 earthquake that people experienced, and it happened, the center of it was in lebanon, new jersey, we're told. i know you have some expertise in this.

did you feel it where you are, and what should we be looking for as we learn more about it? >> right, i was just looking that up too. the -- i don't think you should be expecting too much from this earthquake besides what you've already felt. i didn't feel it here in buffalo. i think we're far enough away. it looks like it was almost a magnitude 5, about a 4.8. it looks like it was pretty close to the surface, only about less than a mile below the surface, which is probably why so many people felt it. there might be some damage in the area around the epicenter. you'll probably be hearing more about that pretty soon. >> i'm not a new york native, but this is the first earthquake i've ever experienced. is this normal in this region in new jersey? >> it is actually. the whole northeastern part of

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welcome back. in just a few hours, president biden head to baltimore to survey the damage from the francis scott key bridge collapse. he'll meet with families of those six workers killed and get an update on the federal

response. the army corps of engineers is still working to try to clear the thousands of tons of underwater wreckage, and they hope to get the port up and running by the end of may. nbc's george solis is live in baltimore for us. george, walk us through the president's visit today. what can we expect? >> reporter: yeah, good morning, ana, sort of the key thing here is that consoler in chief role that he's going to play today meeting with the family members of those men who died on that bridge. here behind me a memorial that's been growing for those workers. you can see some of the flags there, from the countries these men were from, mexico, guatemala, el salvador, honduras. an important takeaway here as he meets with these members who have lost so much and are still awaiting answers. earlier this morning, ana, i actually spoke with one of the survivors of the key bridge incident, julio cervantes. he's out of bed now. last week i spoke with his wife who said he suffered a chest injury. good to report he's up and walking right now. the family has asked for privacy and is not speaking at this

time, but just sort of that takeaway, and the family did lose other members in that collapse. so for them this has been a very emotional time. again, the president here will not only meet with them but will also get a briefing from the army corps of engineers, from the coast guard. he's also going to survey that damage for the first time getting a good look at some of the aftermath after the dali struck the bridge. he's going to be surrounded by a complement of officials here. we expect secretary pete buttigieg to be along with him as well as chris van hollen, senator chris van hollen, senator ben cardin as well as the mayor and governor wes moore, ana. >> and the president has promised to pay for the rebuild, which has drawn some pushback from congressional republicans. where does that stand? >> reporter: and that's to be expected. one of the things that we've heard from the office of management and budget letter, they are saying, quote, we are asking congress to join us in demonstrating our commitment to aid and recovery efforts, and one of the things they immediately did was approve 60 million in emergency relief funds. we also know they established

that unified command, which has been putting out information and videos that we've seen of some of the divers even going into the water right now, and they've approved disaster loans. basically ways to compensate some of these families and people impacted by the fact that that bridge is no longer there. that is going to be the next phase as they not only work to reopen the port and some of the channels to get boats back through there, the thing a lot of people are focused on today is that visit the president is going to have with those family members, those six individuals who are to this day awaiting answers about their loved ones. >> thank you very much. joining us now from the white house is u.s. army corps of engineers lieutenant general scott spellman. general, thanks for being here. what is the biggest challenge facing your teams right now? >> yeah, ana, first, i want to say thank you for having us on your program this morning. before we talk about our number one challenge, i want to say all of us are forever remindful that -- of president biden and governor moore's number one priority, and that is to help locate the missing four workers

and return them to their loved ones. we are in the corps of engineers working alongside some very talented teammates in the united states navy, certainly united states coast guard, incredible first responders from the city of baltimore and the state of maryland. we've just come to the collective assessment that we have to start moving more and heavier debris to help find those missing workers and reopen the strategic port for the nation. we've had over 51 divers in the water over the past nine days. we've had multiple of our technical tools, our lidar, our sonar. our cameras. all over this structure, and it's our opinion now that we can do more work concurrently than sequentially as i have been describing to date. so the challenge right now is to reopen what we are calling a limited access channel. that channel will be 280 feet wide by 35 foot deep. now, what that will allow is the barge container service that runs between philadelphia,

baltimore, and norfolk. these are very large barges. they hold upwards of 300 to 400 of the 40 foot containers. that will allow the container service to get started again in the port of baltimore. and will also allow a large number of the roll-on, roll-off vessels that bring imported automobiles into baltimore and export farm equipment. so we believe we will have the limited access channel open by the end of this month, by the end of april, and simultaneously, we will go to work on all of the other pieces of bridge and the concrete that is in the river. over 20,000 tons of steel and over 30,000 tons of concrete that we have to go to work on. >> wow, you just talked about how grueling this process is and thank you so much for the update and really taking through those governments and the time line here. lieutenant general scott spellman. really appreciate your time. sorry to cut it short. we're following breaking news today in the tri-state area, a 4.7 magnitude earthquake shaking

new jersey with the epicenter we're told in lebanon, new jersey. i want to show you the map from the u.s. geological survey of where people report feeling it, new jersey, new york, all the way up into new england. and our katy tur felt it at a coffee shop. she's joining us by phone right now. katy, describe what you experienced. >> i'm laughing because in new york city when you feel the rumbling in a building, you normally write it off as a big truck going by or the subway. i was in a local coffee shop and i felt the whole bar shaking -- bye, honey -- my daughters saying bye to me. i asked the lady behind the counter, and she said it was a truck. i wrote it off, and i realized, no, it was an earthquake. it was definitely a little more violent than we normally feel with a large truck going by or subway. violent in relative terms, nothing fell off the counters. nothing fell off the ceiling.

i'm from los angeles, so i'm used to relatively big earthquakes where things fall apart. freeways crumble, et cetera. so this was definitely more minor. here in new york city, we're not used to it. we're not used to the ground shaking for any other reason beyond the subway or a large truck. so when i walked outside, people were out of their houses, on the street looking at each other, talking about how the building was shaking, asking if people were okay. talking about how it really freaked them out. just kind of unsure of what exactly went down. my daughter was in the kitchen at my house yelling what is that? is it a big truck? so it was definitely an unusual experience for people here in new york. >> neil degras tyson posted on social media he felt it and he thought it was about 20 seconds by his count. i'm curious if -- if there was any kind of reaction among the people in that coffee shop. what -- >> no, that's what's so amazing.

>> no reaction? >> nobody flinched. i said why is the bar shaking, and the answer of it must be a truck was, you know, accepted by everybody and then when i walked in to say, no, actually it was an earthquake, then everyone reacted and said, yeah, you know that did feel different. it felt strange. there was a bit of a chuckle around the room. while it was unusual for new york, it wasn't strong enough to knock anything over. and i think it was kind of a unique experience for people. we're used to seeing this happen in california or, you know, overseas. not so much here. it's kind of a, you know, we deal with other crises here in new york city, not the ones that shake the ground beneath us literally. so i think the people felt like, you know, it was kind of an interesting experience. i saw on social media that the empire state building posted i am fine, which is good news. >> and again, we are told the

epicenter was lebanon, new jersey, what is now being determined to be a 4.7 earthquake centered there in new jersey. the governor of new york says that it was felt throughout new york. my team, she writes, is assessing impacts and any damage that may have occurred, and we will update the public throughout the day. at this point we have no word of any damage that has occurred, but so many people felt it, and as katy tur was describing, i experienced a similar feeling was that a truck that went by? was that the subway, would we feel that here on 30 rock, i'm up on the fourth story, fourth floor. a lot of people are asking those questions, what just happened. we have the mayor of lebanon, new jersey, joining us by phone. again, lebanon, new jersey, the epicenter of this earthquake. james pittenger, mayor, thank you so much for taking the time. talk to us about what you

experienced there at the epicenter. >> yes, quite frankly, still a little shaken up here. i was working from home today and had some work going on outside my house, and i'm like what the heck did those guys do because everything just started falling off the shelves and just got a pretty big rattle and a pretty big scare. my dog ran for cover. it was the craziest thing i've ever experienced. >> and so things actually fell off the shelves at your place. what other damage are you learning of in your area? >> we're just doing an assessment now. i haven't heard of any significant damage right now. so i was just talking to our hall. so they're right now in the process of seeing if there's any other damage. we do have a reservoir right in our backyard too so there's some concern with that as well. >> okay, and we're just getting another update. it is back to being a 4.8 earthquake. the official word from the u.s. geological survey. mayor, you said it. it shook you up literally.

have you experienced this before? we know earthquake -- >> never. >> -- aren't super common. >> never. i've lived here nor 30 years, and i've never experienced anything like that. i had no idea what it was. having some work doen at the house, so i thought they had hit something outside or did something because it literally shook the walls and knocked stuff off of shelves. so it was quite a, you know, just a crazy experience. >> how long did it last for you? >> oh, just a couple seconds. you know, temperatures over, you know, didn't seem to last that long at all. >> and what fell off the shelves? were they dishes? are you in a situation now where you're in full cleanup mode? >> no, no, no, it was more just stuff on the laundry room shelves, the detergent, and stuff in my garage fell off. actually, i was going to send whoever called me originally, i have a ring video down there with it rattling and stuff falling off. >> and now what's your plan at

this point? will you be assessing the community and whether there is any damage that occurred? >> yeah, absolutely. yep, yep, trying to go through that now, activating our oem and seeing if we need to do anything. >> all right, well, thank you so much for taking the time, mayor james pittenger from lebanon. thank you very much for joining us, again, no major damage at this point reported or injuries. we're going to stay on top of this story and bring you updates as we get them. in the meantime also here on "ana cabrera reports," we are going to just take a quick break and be right back. just take a k and be right back. and this is his john deere z530m mower. ♪♪ that cuts with so much precision ♪♪ speed, ♪♪ and comfort, ♪♪ the only thing he could possibly ask for, is another acre or two to mow. the z530m mower is built to get the job done better, faster.

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breaking news. a 4.8 magnitude earthquake shaking new jersey and the broader northeast with the epicenter in new jersey. joining us by phone is our antonia hylton who felt the quake in brooklyn, new york. tell us what you experienced. >> reporter: i was sitting in my living room getting ready for some work calls. suddenly in my old -- i'm in a pretty old townhome brownstone,

the classic brooklyn building, and everything started to shake. i heard some pretty terrifying noises from our building staircase, from the unit below me and moments later heard screams on the street. there are some older buildings down the road from me. some of the tenants went flooding out on to the avenue in front of me and were in a bit of a panic. they described their stairs were swaying. they were frightened as they were leaving their buildings. some are just resting outside, afraid to go back indoors. i live near a playground in the south williamsburg area. i could hear kids reacting. i don't think most of us in new york city are used to this. this is my first earthquake in this area of the country. people are a bit shaken up here. i can see people on the street just collecting their thoughts

before they step back inside and try to continue on. thankfully i'm not seeing major damage here, but it sounds like internally in a couple of the older buildings there may be a bit of trouble. you know, we're just trying to assess kind of what's happened in this part of the city. boy, are people in shock. >> to hear there were scary noises coming from the staircase, it sounds like people in brooklyn had a different experience than those in other parts of the city. thank you for sharing. i want to note that the former governor of new jersey, chris christie tweeted that his entire house shook for about 25 seconds or so. this was in new jersey. he wrote, did we just have an earthquake? that's the question so many people have been asking, is, did i just feel what i thought i felt? in fact, some people in philadelphia have been calling emergency services asking that

question. philadelphia police saying, we are aware of multiple reports of seismic activity across the city. unless you're reporting an emergency, please do not call 911. important to keep emergency lines open for those who really need help. joining us by phone is meteorologist michelle grossman. michelle, this is an experience so many of us haven't felt before. >> reporter: i know, and it's alarming when you feel this. i have so many text messages asking was it an earthquake? it's a different feeling. it's almost like a swaying when you feel an earthquake. i forget the last one we had, but i remember that feeling distinctly. it doesn't feel like a shake. it feels like a sway. this was a 4.8. i live in bucks county. my husband called me and thought -- the neighbor was outside. he thought something exploded in

the basement, that it was that much of a feeling. it's alarming how far out you can feel it. i'm getting text messages from new york city, new jersey. i have a niece in new jersey who felt it there. the epicenter was two miles from new jersey. when you feel an earthquake in this area, we're not used to it. no pun intended, it does shake you up. >> this is not the first quake to rumble the tri-state area this year. there was a small earthquake in january, a magnitude 1.7 earthquake that struck near astoria, queens. this was a 4.8. we all felt it. here inside 30 rock it was a shaking. it felt like, you know, you could feel it. we were on air at the time. i don't think viewers at home noticed the cameras shaking or

anything. that being said, where the epicenter was near lebanon, new jersey, we talked to the mayor and he said stuff was falling off the shelves at his house and his dog went erserk because they felt it in a big way. michelle, do you have a sense of the fault lines that remain hidden until something like this happened. >> reporter: there are fault lines there. it's like two dinner plates next to each other. when you have shifting of the plates, you'll feel that sway. it's funny that the animals can feel it. my dog was going crazy and afterwards was. when you have a 4.8, if you look at richter scale, by 4 it can cause damage. it's the same as a small fission

bomb. this is a pretty big quake for our area, especially not being used to that feeling. when you have those plates overlapping, you'll feel that. what's going to be interesting over the next couple hours -- and we'll have to talk to a seismologist -- to see what happens afterwards. usually these don't happen alone. there's usually aftermaths. it will be interesting to see what happens. >> michelle grossman, thank you so much. as she discussed, there could be aftershocks. prepare for that. the governor of new jersey, governor murphy, put out a post saying they activated the emergency operations center and reminding people, please do not call 911 unless you do have an emergency. that's going to do it for me today. thank you for being here. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good mo