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federal government needs to foot the full bill for rebuilding the bridge. breaking news, the largest east coast earthquake in the last century, buildings rattled from new york to philly to boston forcing temporary ground stops at two major airports. what we're learning now from officials. plus, israel releasing its report on the strike that killed seven workers from world central kitchen. how things went so horribly wrong and the repercussions for two senior military officers. and that whopping new jobs report, payrolls jumping higher. what it means for your wallet going forward. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments, but we begin in baltimore with nbc news who's correspondent aaron gilchrist, what do we expect, aaron, from the president's visit? >> reporter: well, the president's running a few minutes behind schedule, chris, but his motorcade is on its way to this location where we are where we will hear from the president likely in the next hour or so. the president along with the
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maryland governor wes moore and the heads of the army corps of engineers as well as the coast guard were able to fly over the wreckage site a little while ago so the president can see for himself the tremendous amount of damage that's been done with the key bridge having fallen a week or ago tuesday, and the bridge lies in pieces along with the ship that's still in the water here, unable to move, as crews have been going into the water, into the site trying to survey the area to get a real picture of what exactly the damage is under the water and the work that's going to be ahead of them. the president will come here and get an operational update from the leaders of the task force that's working to salvage the ship and the bridge, as well as speak to the federal response that we have seen to this point. obviously all of the engineering folks who were involved in the direct response but also we know that there's been action taken by the department of transportation in terms of $60 million that's been
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allocated to the state of maryland to start the recovery process and rebuilding process, as well as business centers that have been set up by the small business administration to help the businesses that are dealing with the aftermath of this collapse and the closure of the port of baltimore, and i'll tell you, i see the president's motorcade starting to come into the area right now. we also know that he will meet with the families of the men who were killed, the six men who were killed in the bridge collapse, including the four who were still missing before we hear the president speak today, we know that he will, as i said, acknowledge the federal response. he'll also task congress with supporting his effort to pay for the entire rebuilding of the key bridge or the bridge that will take its place here over the next couple of years, chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you, and as we look at that podium, we're going to continue to watch it and bring the president's remarks to you when they happen. let's move up the east coast now where a 4.8 magnitude earthquake rattled new jersey, new york and beyond.
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nbc's erin mclaughlin reports from new york city. what more do we know at this hour, erin? >> reporter: hey, chris, well, new york governor kathy hochul called the earthquake, quote, unsettling, and that really is an accurate descriptor given how unusual it is for an earthquake of that magnitude to strike this region of the country. to put it in perspective, that's the largest quake to hit the state of new jersey in some 250 years. it was felt throughout new york city, catching plenty of new yorkers off guard. take a listen. >> i was doing my workout, my usual workout. i'm sitting at my bench, i had just finished a set. i sat up, and the whole bottom gym shook. i mean, it was a very strong shake, and i got up. i'm like, oh, my god, and i looked at another person that was working out, and she got up. we looked at each other, and i said you felt that. she says, i felt it.
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>> reporter: i myself felt the earthquake on the 6th floor of the 30 rock in midtown manhattan, and it felt as though the subway was passing beneath my feet. so it was settle, but nevertheless, authorities here are taking this very seriously. it was an all hands on deck across the tristate area, as they began to assess for damage, looking at critical infrastructure, particularly concerned about some of those older buildings that were built with earthquakes not in mind. so far no reports of serious damage, so there was a temporary ground stop at newark, new jersey airport as well as jfk, as they assess damage. no injuries reported so far. authorities say they are concerned about potential after shocks, chris. >> erin mclaughlin, was a few floors below you, is that an earthquake, what was that, and then it was over, so fortunately no serious reports, injuries or widespread damage. thank you, erin.
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let's go overseas now where israel admits serious errors led to the strike that killed seven workers from world central kitchen. hala gorani is reporting from jerusalem. what else did the report reveal in its findings? >> reporter: it revealed that the strike that killed the seven world central kitchen workers was a grave accident. that it was a strike that should not have happened. there was an issue with the chain of command. in fact, it fired two senior commanders and reprimanded a commander directly responsible, it said for this misfire, this attack that was based on a misidentification. now, as far as the world central kitchen is concerned, they're saying that's just not a enough, that the idf cannot, quote, credibly investigate its own failure in gaza even though the probe found serious errors in the way the military dealt with what they said they believed to
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be a legitimate hamas target. and there you're seeing on your screen the world central kitchen statement. that being said, it really does feel, chris, as though there is a shift at least in the rhetoric coming from the netanyahu government. there have been instances where the israel military has targeted and in some cases killed people waiting for aid, most notably a few weeks ago, over 100 palestinians were killed as they crowded around trucks coming in from the north. there was no such apology coming from the israeli military. this time, though, that promise to open more land routes. the crossing significantly in the north that has been shut has been due to reopen. we're not sure exactly when. we heard promises from the israeli government to flood the north of the gaza strip with aid. that happened a few weeks ago, and those promises did not materialize. so it's a question of waiting
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and seeing right now, whether the promise is to go through eras in the north, and the port of ashdod will actually mean more aid to the people of gaza, especially in the north. many of whom are suffering near famine conditions. chris. >> hala gorani, thank you. here at home, the latest jobs report shattered any and all expectations. nbc's christine romans joins me now. we talk about this almost every time you come on which is that the polls show the american people seem unhappy with the economy but here's another set of numbers that are really good. >> really good, booming, actually, and these are numbers that are really widely parsed, you know, on wall street, and within the beltway, but this shows main street hiring, firing on all cylinders here, 303,000 net new jobs added in march. that is a great number, and when you look at sort of the trajectory of job ads, you're talking about the white house points this out today, 15 million jobs added during the biden presidency so far. it's been a couple of really
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strong years, the unemployment rate at 3.8%. you can see it's been a long period below 4%, that's the best kind of stretch since the 1960s. where is the hiring, health care, just about everything in health care, government jobs, construction, those tend to be higher paid jobs. so we're really watching that, especially given you have high interest rates right now. that's not hurting the construction industry. it shows you that it's able to absorb the fed's medicine to try to cure what has been high inflation. leisure and hospitality, chris, is now back to where it was before the pandemic. so that's kind of a notable shift here. i was really watching also wages. wages here at 4.1% means your paycheck is growing faster than your grocery bill. that's been true for a few months. that maybe means people might be feeling a little bit better about the economy. i have been talking to economists, labor experts, what is your letter grade for the economy, they say b of a, the american people giving it a
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solid d. >> you worry about the economy with leisure and hospitality numbers, they're all going on vacation. >> and spending money. >> good to see you. in 60 seconds, is joe biden trying to win with george bush's playbook? we'll explain. playbook we'll explain. softness. quality. because your basic things should be your best things. one purchased equals one donated. visit bombas.com and get 20% off your first order.
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democrats are now turning to president george w. bush's old playbook for the 2024 race, but in reverse. 20 years ago bush won reelection using the then popular opposition to same-sex marriage, pushing republicans to try to ban it in an attempt to rile up voters. well, now, president biden's allies are looking to do the same, seizing on anger over the end of roe v. wade with abortion rights ballot initiatives. battleground states like arizona and nevada and states with key down ballot races including montana and maryland. nbc's sahil kapur has more reporting on this. also with me, former florida
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republican congressman and msnbc political analyst, carlos curbelo. walk us through this plan, and does it really compare to what bush did? >> reporter: it certainly does, chris, it's a fascinating bit of deja vu here that president biden's campaign and his allies are trying to essentially dust off george bush's 2004 playbook by seizing on a hot button cultural issue where they know they're on the right side of public opinion. in 2004, it was opposition to same-sex marriage, which was very unpopular at the time. he put ballot measures, his campaign supported ballot measures in a bunch of swing states to turn out voters and help george bush. it worked, he narrowly was reelected. today, president biden's team is trying basically the same thing. the goal is to ride the coat tails up and down the ballot to stir up the base and motivate swing voters who are motivated by the issue of abortion more than they are necessarily by the candidates. some of the states this could be most impactful is arizona.
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probably the single biggest one. decided by fewer than 11,000 votes in 2020. it's a competitive state where the issue is going to help democrats. nevada as well. it was very close in the 2022 midterms, the abortion issue arguably saved senator katherine cortez masto. i'm skeptical this is going to work for president biden in florida, a state where democrats are in pretty bad shape at the moment, but nevertheless it can't hurt them. other states like montana democrats will lose on the presidential level but there's a key senate race featuring jon tester where this could help him. i spoke to numerous alums of the bush 2004 campaign, and take a look at what mike madrid, a strategist at the time had to say, he said, quote, it's the exact same strategy we deployed in 2004 on culture wars. culture wars used to be the place democrats went to die. that's not the case anymore. they win on the issues.
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sarah fagan said it could be more helpful to biden, abortion could, than marriage was to george bush in '04. people who don't love the candidates do get motivated by these issues. they're of more benefit to biden than to bush because of the importance of the issue to voters. the fact that biden is struggling with his base in a way that george bush wasn't in 2004, that could be a double whammy. progressives, notably, have the exact same view. they believe this could appeal to swing voters and help biden with the base at this point. there's no question, really, that abortion is going to be beneficial as an issue to democrats this fall. the question is how much this ballot initiative strategy is an attempt by them to squeeze as much juice as they can out of this lemon. >> abortion rights has been winning for democrats consistently. can republicans turn things around? >> well, the key for republicans, chris, is to deflect attention from the abortion issue. this 2024 election, republicans
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are going to be looking to avoid the abortion issue. donald trump kind of wants to have a public conversation about this next week, hoping to move past it because he doesn't want to get asked constantly about a position that is unpopular in a lot of key states. then of course democrats are going to have a similar dynamic with the immigration issue. they're going to be avoiding that topic because it's the issue that most hurts president biden in polling where his disapproval numbers are the highest. but in terms of abortion, republicans really, you know, are going to be focused on damage control, and they're going to be figuring out how to avoid the topic as we get closer and closer to the election. >> clearly republicans think immigration is a winning issue for them. they also think that in addition to energizing its base, that's their key to winning over swing voters. i'm wondering if you think immigration could do for them what the democrats believe abortion will do for them is this kind of a battle for which
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issue resonates most with the middle. >> well, chris, it's certainly going to be a potent issue, the issue of illegal immigration, and of course everything we have seen down at the southwest border in recent years. the big differences, and this is critical to sahil's world is that you can't really put immigration on the ballot in the form of a referendum or in the form of a constitutional amendment, and if you can, certainly no one has figured out how to do it. when it comes to the abortion issue, this is an issue that is going to be prominent in some of these key swing states, and that is going to drive voter turnout, so, yes, republicans are going to try to use the immigration issue, but they're not going to have the instrument or the tool of ballot questions the way democrats do with the abortion issue. >> former congressman, carlos curbelo, and sahil kapur, thank you so much. coming up on "chris jansing
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a high-rise building was trying to increase the height of the crane when a section of it fell taking the construction worker with it. the crane also damaged two cars when it landed on a bridge. one driver describing his terrifying close call to our local affiliate. >> i looked up, and i saw the blue structure coming down, and i slammed on my brakes. it sheered off the front of my tesla, the car, and all the air bags went off. and i'm very very lucky to be alive. >> fire officials have since secured the rest of the crane while the investigation continues. the judge in the idaho student murder case is rebuking bryan kohberger's defense team for a move he calls a total shock. during a terse hearing, the judge accused kohberger's lawyer of going behind his back by conducting a survey of 400 prospective jurors in the case. prosecutors reading aloud examples of some of the
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questions the defense had been asking people in the community. >> have you read, seen or heard the dna found on the knife sheathe was later matched to bryan kohberger, have you read, seen or heard if bryan kohberger stalked one of the victims. >> i want to bring in former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, charles coleman. i wonder what you think when you hear that, do you understand why the judge was, let's say, less than happy? >> unquestionably, you're talking about a place, when you're talking about moscow that is very very small in terms of a state. so you're already dealing with a limited jury pool as it is, and to have a survey like this that contained questions that ultimately introduced into the psychology of potential jurors facts which aren't even true, severely taints the jury pool in a way that's going to make it very very difficult for that judge to maintain order over this trial. or for the prosecutors in this case to actually get a jury
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that's fair and unbiassed. so we know that the defense team in this case wanted to get a different venue and move this case elsewhere because this town is so small and so intimately connected, but this may, in fact, be the way it ends up happening, not necessarily to the judge's pleasure or what the judge may want to do, but after a move like this, it's very very hard to contain what was already a limited jury pool from being very very tainted. >> in a case like this where it got not just local attention, obviously, charles, but also state attention and national attention -- i'm hearing a high pitched sound in my ear, charles, can you hear me okay. >> yes, i can hear you fine. >> okay. great, my question is how difficult is it anyway when you have such a high profile case that has a national profile? >> it's a very difficult process. you're talking about having to get a jury that already understands that they should not
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know very much about the case as is, whatever has been in the news, whatever information has already been out. they're supposed to block that out anyway. you're already dealing with, when you're talking about a case that's been in the news that people have heard about, something that creates a difficult challenge in selecting a jury. nonetheless, it's important to remember, chris, that the standard that you're going to be looking at if you're a judge or a prosecutor or a defense attorney in the case when you're selecting a juror, they have to be able to say i can be fair and impartial. i may know about the case. it's not a death nail for you being a juror, if you know about the case, if you have read about it or heard about it, the key is can you be fair and impartial. i think when you're talking about a situation like this, if you have an additional survey introduced, that makes it much more challenging to be fair and impartial, now you have been given facts about the case, some of which weren't true. >> charles coleman, please stick around, we have more to talk about it.
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there are growing concerns about the safety of america's election workers, who are facing an increasing number of threats often fueled by disinformation. i want to bring in nbc's julie tsirkin. what do folks looking at this think needs to get done? >> reporter: they say first and foremost that election workers need to know they're protected. there's so much disinformation going on as well as repeated rumors and lies from former president trump that's trying to delegitimize the work of election workers trying to make sure every vote counts in this process. they say they want safety and they want the biden administration to speak out and put these rumors to rest. take a listen. election workers calling on the biden administration to do more to protect them ahead of november. in philadelphia, commissioner omar severe says he and his staff have received threats every year since the 2020 election, including this phone
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call. >> we are a thousand steps ahead of you. [ bleep ] you're walking right into the line. >> we want more resources to protect our election workers and to protect our election officials. >> reporter: he says part of the problem, baseless claims from former president trump like these. >> guard the vote. and you should go in to detroit, and you should go to philadelphia, and we got to watch those votes when they come in. when they're being shoved around in wheelbarrows and dumped on the floor. >> reporter: around the concerned, election officials reporting physical threats, even receiving fentanyl in the mail. biden administration officials tell us their hands are often tied by free speech protections. nbc's david noriega pressing homeland security secretary al -- alejandro mayorkas. >> we work closely with state and local officials, as well as
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the law enforcement community to ensure the integrity of the election process, to ensure the physical safety of election workers. >> reporter: but experts say dhs under the biden administration is doing less than the trump administration did to alert social media companies about online election disinformation. >> there's been a real pull back since 2020 in sharing that information. >> reporter: and part of the problem, of course, chris, is that the biden administration doesn't want to seem that they're putting their finger on any kind of political scale, but they do say that they counter disinformation claims around elections on siza's web site. >> deeply disturbing reporting, thank you very much. and still ahead, eclipse mania taking over the country. we'll get a preview ahead of monday's cosmic event. plus, why my next guest calls it the planetary version of a lightning strike. of l aightning strike. discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪
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eclipse mania is real. on monday, millions of people across the u.s. will put on their card board and plastic protective glasses. do we think these are protective? they have a picture of al roker on them, and look up to the sky to collectively marvel at a rare total eclipse. huge crowds, big parties, all planned in communities along the path of totality. as my next guest puts it in the
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atlantic, anyone who watches the moon glide over the sun on april 8th will be witnessing the planetary version of a lightning strike. an unlikely confluence of time, space and planetary dynamics, the result of chance events that happened billions of years ago. if that's not cool, i don't know what is. astro physicist, adam frank joins me. we're going to talk in a minute. i'm going first to priscilla thompson -- thomas, in grape vine, texas, what's the prep like in texas? >> reporter: they are expecting thousands of people to descend into the town of grapevine. i want to give you a look, a line out the door during this lunch hour. it is packed in this tiny restaurant, and that of course is only going to continue to grow as more and more people
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come in to town for the eclipse, and they, like many others, are serving a specialty sandwich. this is the blackout sandwich. it has got swiss cheese on it, representing the moon, the blackened roll showing the moment when it passes over the sun and leads to the beautiful eclipse that so many people are going to be hoping to see here. and this is some of what we're hearing from business owners up and down this downtown area. specialty sandwiches, specialty drinks, hotels that are booked nearly to capacity in anticipation of that moment on monday. so certainly a lot of excitement and a lot of business flowing in to these towns. we're talking about an eclipse that's going to stretch from texas to maine, some 115 miles. lots of cities, small towns and large in the path of totality from dallas to cleveland, ohio, indianapolis, and right there in buffalo, new york. so definitely a lot of excitement, but some possibly not so great news here in texas.
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it was supposed to have some of the best viewing. we're hearing there are going to be clouds and storms, so lots of folks here hoping that those storms will hold off until that 1:00 hour when we expect to see this eclipse, but the weather service just tweeting saying conditions are not going to be optimal but people will still be able to see it, and even if it's cloudy, you need the glasses if you're looking up at the sun. >> all you need is four good minutes of weather. that's it. four good minutes. okay, professor, this is kind of like a cosmic super bowl. i have been planning this for over a year. hi hometown happens to be near cleveland, so that's kind of convenient, i don't have to pay the hotel prices, but for people wondering what all the fuss is about, why this is so extraordinary, say, versus, what, 2017, the last time we had an eclipse, what do you say to them? >> well, you know, every total solar eclipse is a rare and amazing event. you know, you're lucky if you happen to live in the totality
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so you can get there. but, you know, over the course of history, eclipses, imagine you're a random person walking around 2,000 years ago and the sky suddenly goes dark. you would think it was the end of the world. so, you know, these eclipses are phenomenal events, they played a huge role in human history, and anybody who's been at one, so, i've never seen one, i'm excited about this. they're also such beautiful moments of connecting with the world. yeah, that's why people see these as being something truly extraordinary, a once in a lifetime event. >> so tell us exactly what we're going to see at that moment or i should say in much of the pathway, you know, 3 1/2, 4 minutes worth. >> right. >> so what's happening here, you've got the moon orbiting the earth as it always does, and if conditions are right, the path of the moon, the shadow of the moon passes along, passes on to the earth.
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if you're in the place where the moon is directly in front of the sun, what you're going to see is the moon, you know, sliding, and this is the cosmic accident part. it's going to replace the sun. it's the exact right size on the sky so that it's going to block the sunlight, and then what happens is it's going to go dark. the sky is going to go dark as if it was nighttime, but you're also going to be able to see the outer atmosphere, the million degree atmosphere of the sun called the corona, which will be shimmering and glowing and fiery flares happening on the surface of the sun. you're going to see the night sky as you have never seen it before. it's really a remarkable, remarkable event, and it's really a cosmic accident that the moon is just the right size, the sun is just the right size, they're at the right distance for this to occur. this does not occur on other worlds in the solar system or very rarely. >> my meteorologist friends who
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know i have been very excited about this are like saying, don't worry about the forecast right now. cloud cover is very hard to predict. you might get lucky and that four minutes is absolutely perfect. what are folks who spend thousands of dollars to go somewhere and it might be stormy, cloudy, what are they going to see? >> well, you know, i mean, this is the chance you take to see something, like in rochester, the last eclipse was in 1925, right. so that's the chance we take. we do it because we're human beings. we're in the world, we want this experience, this closeness to the world, but even, unless it's like completely stormy. even if it's cloudy, it's going to go dark. all of a sudden it's going to look like it's nighttime. even that experience is going to be something remarkable, to see suddenly day turn into night, turn into day again. no matter what, it's going to be a really remarkable experience, and it was worthwhile, because, again, you know, we go through
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our lives, and we're always concerned about what's happening in my life, and all the day-to-day, this is something that gets you out of your head that you're going to do with all of these millions of other human beings. americans, not republicans, not democrats, just other human beings there to connect with this most elemental thing, the sky and its marvels. >> yeah, and somehow putting on these goofy glasses is kind of -- oh, can't see anything. >> totally dark. >> it's a great unifier, right, we all look ridiculous at once. >> exactly. we all look ridiculous, for the sky, to see something incredible in the sky. >> amazing stuff, professor adam frank, we'll keep our fingers crossed that both of us have clear skies. >> on monday, katy tur will host special coverage of the total eclipse with live reports throughout the country throughout the cosmic event, including my own from the great state of ohio. tune in monday at 2:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. and coming up, the triple
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two civil trials will be a constant time and money suck of serious proportions. on top of that, recently legal filings in three of those cases failed to give trump the trial delays his team was aiming for. and while the legal costs keep piling up, there's this from barry diller, the business icon whose resume includes paramount, fox, qvc and usa network has called trump's truth social, which added billions to his net worth on paper, a scam. >> i think they're dopes. i mean, who would buy a company that literally has, i mean, i think what does it have, $30 of revenue? how could you put a value on it? they're buying it for other reasons, just like they bought theaters when there was no theater business or gamestop or whatever. it's stupid. it's stupid stuff. >> charles is back with me. also with me in studio, nbc's dasha burns.
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to diller's point, i want to read something dana millbank wrote, in a sense, what trump did with trump media is a variation on what he does to his supporters every day, whether convincing them to buy trump endorsed bibles or sneakers, and selling them on election lies and white nationalism. is this just an extension of who trump has always been? >> for those who aren't chronic viewers of cnbc, let me explain why people have been calling this a meme stock, the value in the stock market, what it's priced at does not relate to his actual value, the value of the company. what people are investing in right now, it's priced at way higher than it should be, but he mentioned gamestop there, right? this is a way for people to send a message. this is not just voting for trump at the ballot box, this is investing in him at the stock market. will that play out well for the people making those investments? that's to be seen. i'm very skeptical of that, but it is a way.
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i mean, with gamestop, that's another example where people did that to sort of say, hey, look at what we can do, and now you're seeing this intersection between politics and business and the stock market, and that's all happening via trump. >> despite what diller says, the company is amazing, it has $200 million. no debt, but the company lost $58 million last year alone, and we know these trials have been a money suck. not that he'll listen, but do you think trump's lawyers at some point try to convince him that these constant attempts often using fringe legal arguments to delay aren't working, they're only costing him money? >> i think those conversations i had before the filings are made, chris, and i think that donald trump is someone who continues to show himself as being a very difficult client, someone who you can't control, and so when it comes to representing someone like that, as long as your client is not necessarily forcing you to do something that is illegal or potentially going to result in sanctions from the
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bench, you essentially work for them. you present them with different options that they may see as viable or not as viable, you give them the advice to consult them and tell them, hey, listen, i don't necessarily think this is going to get a lot of traction or i think this is a good option for you, and ultimately the client is the one who makes the decision, so donald trump probably has been given all of this information before by his attorneys over and over again. but he may see things in a particular route and decide that that's the way he wants to go. and his attorneys have no choice or very little choice but to follow his instructions in that regard, and so he's a client who can make it very difficult to represent him. >> charles, as i mentioned, three judges, florida, new york, georgia, all rejecting trump's attempts to get his cases delayed. what does that bode for his legal time line? it looks like the hush money case is going to happen. any other before the election now potentially? >> i don't think so. i think that ultimately we're looking at something that is
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pushing all of these cases beyond the election, and that's exactly what donald trump wanted. i mean, i think that's also what you have to consider is that even if he doesn't get another delay from today forward, he has still done enough in the time that he's had, more likely than not, where his goal of being able to get to the election before going to trial will likely be achieved in more of these cases, particularly the federal cases. now, in the aileen cannon mar-a-lago case, he had some outside help, in the case with chutkan in d.c. with regard to election interference, the help there has come from the supreme court. there's been a perfect storm of legal maneuvering and also outside support that has enabled this to happen. for people who are wondering why hasn't this moved forward more quickly, you have to understand that the wheels of justice in america tend to move very very slowly, and donald trump has had an upper hand on slowing those down even more. >> you know, we have been watching very carefully donald trump reporting how much money he raised last month. we're still waiting to make the
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comparison with team biden, although we know they made $26 million across the street. let's talk a little bit about money. we know that some of the small dollar donations are down, which may seem concerning. but there's a new pitch to trump supporters. if you raise 2 1/2 million dollars, you get some special swag from the former president. that can include personalized gold sneakers, a signed maga hat, wow. 2 1/2 million dollars for some sneakers and a hat, but i think it does kind of tie in, right? as you have said, people wanting to invest in some way in donald trump? >> yeah, that's exactly right, and people are starting to also come home. you've got folks who had distanced themselves from the former president over the last few years, especially during the primary who are now coming back into the fold. this weekend, tomorrow, in fact, he has a major fundraiser that is being hosted by billionaire john paulson in palm beach,
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florida, the names of the cochairs include robert big low, a major desantis donor. this is something we're really going to be watching for to see how those folks, those major major donors, those more establishment type folks in the republican party that had been keeping trump at arm's length are falling in line behind him. >> dasha burns, charles coleman, thank you, both, have great weekends. and melania trump will soon make a rare appearance stumping for her husband, the former first lady holding a fundraiser for log cabin republicans at mar-a-lago. "politico" obtained an invitation from the group of lgbtq republicans. she has been close to them for years. melania trump is kind of a reluctant campaigner to say the least, but this event is at mar-a-lago, she doesn't even have to leave home. how much we'll see her on the trail is an open question. to the deciders, our series
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looking at the key places that could determine the outcome of the 2024 election. we're now hearing from one critical voting bloc in the battleground state of michigan, union households. nbc's yamiche alcindor has more about this. what did you learn talking to these groups? >> these voters from michigan say they don't see a candidate stance on unions as a defining factor on whether they support one person over the other in this race. instead they told us they are more focused on issues like the economy, abortion, immigration, and even housing. that said, not one of these voters said they consider former president trump's policies pro union, and only democratic voters said they considered biden's policies pro union. but some trump supporters believe trump is more pro worker. they explained that they see him as looking out for rank and file members, but not institutions like unions. take a listen to what they told us. >> who would say president biden's policies are pro union?
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>> i feel like he has made his support of unions known. he is not afraid to support us in the open. >> i just think he's not afraid to work alongside the unions as opposed to trying to squash the unions. >> i would say former president trump's policies are pro union? none of you? okay. so deborah, help me with this. he's not pro union, but you would support him in the next election, tell me why. >> because i think he's pro worker. i think he knows how to get jobs out there. >> i think he's pro get people back to work. it doesn't matter if you're union or not. >> i do like a lot of stuff that trump does, but i don't know if he helps our union workers.
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>> so a really interesting distinction that they're making there, especially as we think about campaign messaging. now, both candidates, of course, are courting union voters. president biden is calling himself the most pro union president in recent memory, and of course he walked the picket line with striking auto workers last year, and earlier this year, former president trump met with the teamsters union which endorsed biden last election psych -- cycle. they said they appreciate that the leaders are negotiating contracts, getting them higher wages but they do not want to be told who to vote for by the union leaders. we also found of the 15 people we talked to, seven said they would vote for president biden, and six said they would vote for former president trump. two people said in a two-way race that they wouldn't vote at all. and in 2020, president biden beat trump by only 154,000 votes in michigan, so a very tight race there, and he's going to
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have to turn out every voter to win. >> yamiche alcindor, great to see you. fascinating stuff. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for "chris jansing reports" every weekday 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. i'll see you from an eclipse site on monday. "katy tur reports" continues right after this very short break. tinues right after this very short break. introducing allison's plaque psoriasis. she thinks her flaky gray patches are all people see. otezla is the #1 prescribed pill to treat plaque psoriasis allison! over here! otezla can help you get clearer skin and reduce itching and flaking. with no routine blood tests required. doctors have been prescribing otezla for nearly a decade. otezla is also approved to treat psoriatic arthritis. don't use otezla if you're allergic to it. serious allergic reactions can happen. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. some people taking otezla had depression, suicidal thoughts or weight loss.
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