turn it around? >> we will turn it around quickly. it is a small shot. we are responsive to whatever is happening in the news but we are also proactive. right now, the issue is donald trump. you have a man who tried to overthrow the government of the united states going to be the next candidate for the presidency of the republican party. this can'tby allowed to happen. if donald trump is elected again, we will not recognize this country. >> that's all the time we have for today. we will be back tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern. up next is the weekend with nike michael steele and simone sanders townsend. michael steele and simon sanders townsend good morning, it is

saturday, april 6th, and we welcome. today donald trump's dark and dangerous rhetoric, calling january 6th rioters hostages. police officer harry dunn is here to respond. fresh off of president biden's visit to baltimore, maryland, senate candidate angela als brook joins the table. and tensions between the special counsel's office and judge aileen cannon in the classified documents case. we have a lot to talk about. grab your coffee. welcome to the weekend. we begin the weekend with breaking news. just moments ago, the biden harris campaign released the march fundraising numbers and the campaign says it raised $90 million last month. that brings their total cash on

hand to $192 million that is the highest amassed in any democratic candidate in history. the trump campaign raised $65 million in march with $93 million in cash on hand. biden campaign finance share rufous gifford is joining us now. good to see you. i will go to michael steele because i can't hear. >> good to see you, man. congratulations. those are killer numbers coming out of the campaign this morning. you have to be feeling good about that. >> we are. we are, michael. great to be with you guys this morning. we are fired up by the numbers. when i started this job six months ago, when we were looking to build and build and engage our donors and engage our supporters, we are even

surprising ourselves to a certain extent about what we are able to put forward this year and what we are excited about. $90 million in march, $187 million in q1. and this $100 million cash on hand advantage over trump, this speaks to the strengths we have right now. it is exciting to see. >> it is alexis filling in this morning. >> great to be with you. >> that is an impressive haul and i know that the president and democrats themselves like to say it is reflective of party unionty and enthusiasm from democrats. but we know that you need to get republican donors too. how much are you communicating with republican donors on joining in on the effort? and how many did they contribute to the haul you have raised so far? >> so, i would say this. if you look at the advantage we do have, the money that we have been raising in march, and i think since the state of the

union, you have seen a whole bunch of things. you have seen the president barnstorm all of the swing states, battleground states. you have seen us invest $30 million in reaching out to voters, black voters, latino, aapi voters. to your point, also republican donors. i can tell you i'm personally on the phone with haley supporters every day. in many ways, this is a marathon, not a sprint. we have a lot of work to do . the opponent has told them that they do not have a home on their campaign. well, we look straight into the eyes of republicans and haley donors and say you dohave a home here. we may not agree on every issue. that is going to be clear. that may continue to be the case. we are going to make the case that joe biden, to reelect joe biden and kamala harris is the right step forward. we have a lot of fogs coming to our side. >> you know, today axios has a

headline that trump's $50 million gala set to double by the triple president fundraiser. they are saying that this fundraiser that donald trump is having is said to eclipse the $26 million raised by president biden last week at his star studded radio city music hall. what say you about the trump campaign's claims about the numbers? and are you concerned or not concerned? the guy is literally in court all the time. he owes a lot of money to a lot of different places. i have to imagine this is a better place for you to be than the last time around this time during the campaign in 2020 where the cash was not as flowing. >> well, yeah. a few things on that, symone. first of all, on his fundraiser, trump and his orbit has a loose relationship with the truth to say the least. i look forward to see their report when they are forced to

file in nine days or so to make sure that the numbers are what they are. this is the ultimate point here. every single time that you give to the biden harris reelection campaign, we spend talking to voters. in just the last month or so, we have 100 offices open in the swing states now. we are of course engaging, whether it is ad buys, phone calls. we have made hundreds of thousands of calls to voters. what is he doing? he may put up some money tonight with his builtian air friends in palm beach. we understand that. but we would never trade our campaign, our strategy here just comparing the last thursday's event in new york over 5,000 people, sold out venue in the most iconic venue in the united states, people giving everything from $25 up to a lot more than that. that is the kind of grass roots

enthusiasm that is fuelling us. again, we are not spending money on legal bills. we are not hawking gold sneakers or any of that stuff. the money we are raising, we are going straight to talking to voters. this election is going to be close. every single person knows the election will be close. it will continue to be close until election day. we will leave no stone unturned. we will continue to invest the money that we are privileged to have you invest in us and we will go out into the swing states and win this thing. >> so i'm picking up on the swing state point because as a former chairman at every lefshl of politics, the one thing that you translate money into are donors. so you take an event like trump is having tonight. he has donors who are going to do a max of $814,000. one donor writing a check for $814,000. your numbers over this haul that you have had in the first

quarter, talk a little bit about how that translates into support, individual support, 1.1 million donors making over 1.9 mill contributions to the biden campaign. that's a very different kind of engagement by donor voters out there than we may see coming from the trump side. >> that's right. and no one knows this as well as you, michael. the truth is we doubled, we have doubled our email list in q1 alone. these with new folks, folks who didn't invest in us with 2020 which was a historic campaign in a number of areas as well. you look at those people, 97% of the donations are $200 or less. why does that matter? it means that we can continue to go back to those people, and have them to continue to fund the operation from now until election day. the more people we can bring

into the tent, the more people we can engage at every level of this operation. that is what we are building here. that's what we are excited about. i think we didn't anticipate having the enormous cash advantage at the end of march. i can tell you this, we will take it again. we will put that right back out into the states. we will be talking to voters every day between now and november 4th. >> before we go, i would note for the folks watching that you have had a lot of titles and jobs. you are the former chief protocol officer of the united states. i could imagine in having conversations with donors, that experience is very helpful. what are the donor class saying about israel, what is happening in the gaza strip? and even ukraine and russia? >> yes, as you say, i have had the enormous privilege to be able to travel the world with

president biden in my prior job. i can tell you this. there is no one who has a better grasp of global issues, of world affairs than president biden. i can tell you having been in those rooms, behind closed doors, there is no one who has the same level of respect on the world stage that joe biden does. there are enormous challenges facing the country and the world. i can tell you this, as an american, i am absolutely thrilled that we have joe biden at the helm. >> all right, biden campaign finan chair, very happy finance chair rufus gifford. thank you for joining us. you see that smile? >> it's the money. >> it's the money, show me the money. up next, donald trump has found a way to make his violent

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to immigration. he is embracing the word blood bath to falsely blame migrants for crime waves that are just not happening. he described president biden's economic record as a migrant job fair. he also voiced support for a woman convicted of illegally entering the capitol during the insurrection, calling her one of the j6 hostages. joining us now is former illinois congressman and 2020 presidential candidate joe walsh and dr. rashon ray, a sociology professor at the university of maryland, also senior fellow at the brookings institution. welcome to both of you. >> this is -- this is -- it's dark but i don't think people should be surprised when donald trump announced -- on his inauguration, just steps from the capital over here, in his remarks during the inauguration, he promised american carnage.

he tried to make good on that promise throughout his presidency on january 6th after he lost, and now, if he is afforded another term by the american people, he will triple down on that. am i making this up? >> who is that to? >> anybody? because am i making it up? >> not at all. it is great to be on with you this morning. i'm a researcher. i bring stats and receipts. the two studies i conducted and published i want to amplify. the first is what one of my drral students, for three years, we analyzed trump's tweets about immigration. what we found was that none of tweets were positive. 65% focused on kroim and safety, trying to invoke that fear. it is a concept that we call

crime agration. where you link crime with immigration. we see that plan with trump. he is trying to invoke a group threat, trying to show a minority group, oftentimes immigrants but not always, pose an economic, political, cultural threat to the status quo which is unfortunate. research documents that when people come toan area, the economy flourishes and crime goes down. there is another study that is extremely important where we analyze 32 million tweets on twitter over a year period. my colleague dr. melissa brown and i found that there was a hashtag called top conservatives on twitter that inflamed people's views about minority groups, black groups, latinos and we see that playing ow. they framed black lives matter protesters as domestic terrorists trying to take over the republic. we saw that on january 6th.

that was supporters of donald trump. >> so joe, we have been in this battle space on an issue like immigration, you and i, going after policies that were not effective at securing the border. but there was never a need or desire to demonize the human beings coming across the border. what is it about that particular transition in all of this? particularly given what the professor noted about how donald trump is framing the conversation around immigration today? referencing migrants as animals. when in a presidential candidate starts referring to human beings of whatever their status or state is as animals, we are in a whole different place right now. >> he is appealing to the very worst of us. look, this is not normal. what trump is doing is not normal. this will be one of the longest

general elections in our history. i think it is imperative that the biden team says this is not normal. trump tries to get away -- look, here we are, nine days ago, donald trump sent out an image of the current president of the youns being kidnapped. we can't move past this. immigration is a big issue. and the biden team needs to know that. trump is going to go lower and lower to appeal to the worst of us. this is not normal. boyden has to call that out. >> i'm curious what you think, dr. ray, it is certainly perpetuated by donald trump. he is saying the craziest stuff. from the inauguration speech, we were like, wow, american carnage, this is what we signed up for. there was a poll that something like 50% of americans expect violence over election losses

this fall. so it suggests to me that it is bigger than trump who is thinking about a blood bath or how to commit crimes against people who are subhuman according to trump. what is the message when you are fighting against something that is so sinister and so much bigger than one person? >> i think the message is from biden, we are better than this. trump appeals to the worst of us and he is going to drive this home as best he can. we are living in a pop euless moment. he throw zs horrible stuff at the american people. i think biden and the team needs to recognize the moment and appeal to the best of us. this is not who we are. i get we are angry and the democrats need to recognize the anger. but not demagogue it like trump is doing. >> yeah, i feel like that is

kind of what -- and dr. ray, give us the data here but i do feel like that is what we do hear from the biden campaign, president biden, he really put his stake in the ground on democracy, from his inaugural speech. he talked about being a president for all of americans, regardless of folks who voted for him. but what we are hearing from donald trump is being propped up by other pieces of the republican party apparatus. folks that maybe don't even think of themselves as big r democrats. even if donald trump loses the election, the sentiment and the underbelly and that undercurrent is still there. >> most definitely. it is a few things. often times as a scholar when i hear this is not who we are and we look at the data and we look throughout history, sometimes this actually is who we are.

and that is the unfortunate reality. the united states was built on inequality, it continues to perpetuate that. when people have been privileged by parts of their identities for very long, equality starts to feel like oppression to them. that's part of what is happening. it is what arlie hawk child calls strangers in their own land. people feel jobs are being taken from them. people feel they can't participate in the political process in the same way. people feel their cultural values are taken. this is in conflict across the political spectrum. if we go back a century, there are a lot of republicans who like to invoke lincoln's party. well, the republican party is not the same lincoln party it was. they like to invoke mlk, of course it was recently the date when he was assassinated in nem# memphis where i happen to go to college at. when we think about this, our political parties are

transforming. we have an overly simplistic two party systems. when we look at other democracies, they have multiple parties that participate. on the right, you have often times moderate republicans becoming troublesome bed fellows with the alt right and white supremeicists. on the left, you have moderate kind of neo liberal democrats becoming bed fellows with more progressives. we should have a more pluristic democratic system with the parties and we are not seeing that play out. so it leads to a conflict playing out, whether that is on radio showses and talk shows, but also in the streets and at the polls. >> that thing, what he just said. >> that's not who we are. >> oh, goodness. okay, congressman, dr. way, you will stick around because we have more to discuss. we will dig into project 2025 and their plans for anti-white racism if trump takes back the

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quote, trump proofing weapons for ukraine. this comes as trump allies plot their far right takeover including ivf restrictions and get this folks, they also want antiracism protections for white people. back with us is former congressman joe walsh and professor rashan. we all laughed but they are doing this. the culture wars are not the distraction, they are the playbook. and this groundwork that has been laid by project 2025 is currently being played out right now. dr. ray, there are lawsuits that have been brought now that folks are claiming anti-white racism to the point where the national minority of business development supplier council, the place that is supposed to help women businesses and historically underrepresented people start businesses to be available and eligible for federal contracts and government contracts, a

federal court ruled against them and said they have to serve white peopleal as if they don't already. because wait, tell me i'm not being crazy, dr. ray. . >> no, not at all. the playbook is working. the plan is working. and republicans are much more effective than democrats at discussing their plans. democrats get overly worried. republicans and the one thing that trump learned long before he started going into politics is that you have to use simpler language that people can understand. so that is part of the cultural playbook. he is not just sending dog whistles. he is throwing out a loud bull horn talking about what is going on. what do the stats say? 60% of trump's voters think that minorities are privileged over white people. 60% of trump voters. so this plan has really worked. one thing i note about diversity, equity, and inclusion

training and dei programs is people are working hard. for some of the best research, you can check out sean harper at the university of california. i know from doing these trainings, they are different across the board. the other thing i know is that when places have dei programs, they actually improve in selling their products. they make more money. brooe employees are happier. trump and some republicans want to ban some of the dei programs because they know they are working. what i'm confused about is the latest poll showing that 20% of black people are registered to vote for trump. i think this speaks to not politics, not just being linear, but being circumstantial. >> do you believe those numbers?

26% now. i don't know. >> i don't think we will see 26% of black folks voting for trump. there is nothing that is baked in this process that i think elevates the black vote to that level. black men as a portion of the conversation, even that number is still small. but i want to broaden the lens out a little bit on what the professor was talking about and focus more on the project 2025. that for me is the insulation of how we started the conversation today, talking about a president trump who came in with a dystopian view of america, who now wants to programatically but

institution ize it. how do you see the project succeeding in setting this thing up? and what does the government look like should trump win come january of 2025? >> i'm a lousy guest this morning, i'm sorry. because i'm a broken record. this is not normal. and project 2025 is not normal. it poses a president as a king. what does it mean? if means if trump becomes president, he will be a deckitator and he and his people will do whatever they can to turn america into a white, christian, with the government seal of approval kind of a country. that is anathema to what we are. if you read project 2025, that really is what it outlines. >> he's right. >> but michael, i need someone to scream every day that this is

not normal and this is not what we are. >> i agree with that. the hard part is the climate is, and this is where trump has success and the good professor put it in the right way, he breaks the conversation down to elemental level, common plain spoken language and that connects. >> it connects. >> if you come in with the high fluting stuff, it just going into the either for folks and they stay connected to what trump is talking about. >> i just want to note, they say, we are forming an agency team to draft a transition to move out upon the president's utterance of so help me god. >> from that moment, your life changes. >> not normal. >> congressman joe walsh, dr. sean ray, thank you so much for being with us.

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the israeli hostages on morning joe earlier this week. they were saying they felt that they and their families were forgotten by these developments and how president biden has pushed netanyahu to reopen pathways for aid after this world central kitchen situation. to me it suggests that biden could have called netanyahu up at any time and say you need to do x, y, and z because of the way he is shifting. do you see it that way? >> well, not quite but you can keep two things in mind at the same time. humanitarian aid for starving people who have sadly been isolated by an aggressive and not very effective israeli strategy in gaza. they are not achieving their objectives in my view, although i support the objective to eliminate the hamas governance. but there is that. but the hostages includes six

americans. 30 americans were killed on october 7th. and i don't know why that is not a bigger part of the conversation. that is really traumatizing the israeli psyche. i think it is way past time to focus on ending that piece of this. i gather that bill burns is headed to egypt to try to negotiate that. sure, a sticking point is how many hostages or how many prisoners, let's go there, how many palestinians have to be traded. but i think they can get over that. if these people stay in captivity a little longer, it has been six months, more and more will die and this will be a real policy failure. >> so you had some very interesting insight in the last few days having just arrived back from ukraine. we had ambassador bridget brink, ambassador to ukraine on twitter noting, great meeting from the defense strategy commission led

by jane harmine, we discussed the continued support for ukraine in the fight against russia's brutal campaign. tell us about the meeting with the advisors to president zelenskyy and the u.s. ambassador. >> we spent two days in ukraine and got back late yesterday afternoon. bridget brink is terrific. she has been there for some time and has an excellent team and is very courageously trying to fight for what we need which is $60 billion in u.s. aid. congress is coming back this week. the senate has already acted. kudoesses for mitch mcconnell and susan collins and others for producing a huge victory in the senate. but in the house, eight months delay is way too much. what is happening there is sadly, zelenskyy and his people are as he said cutting the line. they are trying to fight the russians across a long border

with russia but without ammo and without what is called long range fires, missiles to hit back at the installations that are hitting them and without really good antijamming equipment with the drones they have and great numbers. they have to make decisions that we can't be there. we can only be here. one of the things we saw which was amazing is there own yare space industry. they are building low cost drones for $350 a copy. they are building long range drones for about $5,000 a copy. they are making their own tanks . this is an astounding thing. they have changed their technology base to focus on this and they are showing us how to do it. but without the long range fire and u.s. patriot missiles, they can't win. >> it is -- a number of these missiles that the congresswoman is togging about, they are made here in america. the money that congress would

pass is money to go to the pentagon to buy from american companies in kentucky and all over america. >> 70% of that budget goes to u.s. companies to back stop the weapons that are needed. i can't imagine why it is in our interest not to send this aid yesterday, given the fact that if ukraine loses or ukraine is depleted, russia will move into nato and be involved in a land war. this seems to be a much cheaper way to handle this. >> we mentioned this and it is worth reading from senator schumer's dear colleague let that is right he sent out to senators, talking about the agenda and talking about the calendar ahead. he notes in this letter, we continue to keep pressure on the house to act on the security supplemental. later he says, i have spoken with speaker johnson and i believe he understands the threat of further delaying the national security supplemental but he has to ultimately decide

for himself whether he will do the right thing for ukraine. >> johnson is caught between a rock and a hard place. >> is he? >> yeah, a little bit. the reading i have picked up on in washington is he is much more inclined to want to do the right thing on ukraine but you still have the marjory taylor greens of the world who are stopping that. does there come a point where this aid as it is currently constituted becomes not enough because we have gone beyond the period where this aid could have been put to use and now because of the things you have described, that aid is going to be needed more but more of it? >> well, i think a $60 billion is not chump change. it will go along way. a lot of it being left in america to back stop aerospace.

we can focus on that later. the problem is kevin mccarthy changed the house rules and sadly the speaker has almost no power. if i were the speaker now, i would say i'm going to do the right thing and there will be a discharge petition so that means democrats can also vote for this, and if someone moves to take me out, maybe democrat votes will save me or maybe they won't but my epithat will be that i did the right thing. america's future is on the line here. we have to get ukraine right and we have to help israel get it right. a lot of mistakes are being made and it is really time to figure out the way to get the hostages back, to figure out a way to stop the aerial bombing of ukraine and get to a solution in israel which is is two states. >> to the marjory taylor greens

who asks the question what is the benefit of aiding ukraine, it means in five and six years, it means we don't have to send our young men and women to europe to fight a war. >> maybe not five or six years, maybe five or six months if this thing goes south. but kudos to the ukrainians for fighting as hard as they have and stepping up to provide the weapons they can which are making some difference. but the u.s. aid is crucial. this is the week that the house should be acting. >> all right. congresswoman jane harman, good to be with you. next, president biden surveys the damage in baltimore and his allies in congress try to push through a plan to rebuild the francis scott key bridge. congressman albrooks joins the conversation. you're watching the weekend. on you're watching the weekend.

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former lieutenant governor. >> well, that but more importantly, this is my county executive so it is a great treat to have you at the table. >> thank you. >> we were talking a little bit before you came on about the various teams of personnel who have been involved in this. you noted that we have in prince george's county an elite diving team on the scene immediately. what was -- what have you learned from them and your own up close view of the scene? what is your take away of the progress so far is in the recovery? the president's visit yesterday, how should maryland absorb all of this at this stage? >> i first want to acknowledge that we have been lucky to have great leadership in maryland. i think the governor in cordination with the mayor of this city and the county xegative of baltimore county, our federal delegation all jumped into action at the same time. at the local level, we were

happy to send as i mentioned, one of the most elite dive teams in the state. they were there along with baltimore city and the maryland state police to make sure they got in and recovered quickly two of the men who were on the bridge. we know another was recovered yesterday. that was the first mission, to bring back to those families who lost their loved once. but the conditions are parailous. given everything we have faced, we have really been able to quickly coordinate and to have a plan in place to be able to get that port back up and get the bridge rebuilt. >> how do you see the longer term conversation ashd this? you know, everyone wants it done yesterday. even the folks in the press get all ansy about why have you not done this and why is it taking so long.

has the governor's office partnered with counties like ours, sending personnel, sending support? how is that process working between annapolis and the various counties that should or could be involved in the recovery process? >> well, we are in session right now which allowed the governor to sign an executive order to make sure we are caring for about 15,000 workers who have been impacted there, to allow $60 million in aid to the workers. the president has done a phenomenal job providing small business loans. so it is fortuitous that the session is in so our legislative body can act to make sure they are taking care of the workers and businesses. there is still a long way to go. i will say this. the president has precedent. we have precedent we can look at from minnesota. he has said, we will lean in in

much the same way we did in 2007 to make sure the federal government is fully covering the cost of his rebuild. i think it has been helpful that we do have precedent that we can lock to to as to how to move forward in a situation like this. and we will look forward to that. >> excellent. >> can we put on the screen what the president has done and the administration's response on this? i think people should see it. unified command structure, $640 million in emergency relief funds, small business providing loans, labor department worker grant funding and more. there are things the federal government is doing but congress, they have said other things. >> that's what is crazy. we can barely get congressional republicans to send aid for baltimore and we are talking about aid for ukraine and israel. it is republicans, maga folks online, people not even close to

maryland, who somehow blamed all of this on d.e.i. and the black men running baltimore and the state of maryland. it is disgusting. it is another example of unapologetic racism is back and these people have no other excuse for what is going on other than racism. one, were you surprised by how stupid that response is? and two, how do you focus, how do you keep focused on getting things done and rebuilding a bridge when you are not only dealing with the realities of that but the realities of people saying this is your fault because you are black? >> well, let's first say, i agree that they are stupid. and they are a very unserious group of people. having said that, we keep in mind and stay focused on the fact that we have lost six lives. this is a serious situation. we have 15,000 workers who are relying on us. we have another 140,000 people who have been impacted because they have some connection to

this port. we will stay focused. the people who are very not serious people, sick with racism but that will not stop us from doing what is necessary to rebuild the port to make sure that marylanders can move forward. this port also affects national supply chains. these are serious times. it calls for serious leadership. i thank the president for his leapership. i think we have a wonderful governor and federal delegation and local officials. we will get this done for the people. >> we would be remiss talking about a federal delegation and you are running for united states senator, 38 days left in the primary. are you going to be joining the federal delegation? will you be the democrat nominee for senate? david trone we also invited to come on the show, he is also on the race. >> absolutely. i will be joining that delegation. and i'm excited that i have also been endorsed by the entire

delegation except two people. endorsed by tordon holland, and mfume. this is a great support i have. the grass roots support is tremendous. they are excited and i'm excited to join the delegation and continue to represent maryland. >> well, it sure looks like she has been on the campaign. >> she looks calm and relaxed. >> and thank you for joining us to make your case. >> thank you all so much. we have another packed hour of the weekend straight ahead, including former capital police officer harry dunn, legal analyst mary mccord, and we have the president of reproductive freedom for all, our friend of the show, mini tim raju. and follow us everywhere on social media, our handing is the weekend msnbc. , our handing is the weekend msnbc.

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