good evening, tonight, the middle east on edge as we continue our special coverage of iran's retaliatory strike against israel. according to israeli officials more than 200 different kinds of missiles and drones

including killer drones, ballistic, and cruise missiles were fired toward israel. the u.s. and israeli militaries saying they shot down the vast majority of the iranian missiles, and dozens of attack drones. some missiles struck military base in the south causing minor damage. hears i.d. of spokesperson rear admiral. >> this is a severe and dangerous escalation. are defensive and offensive capabilities are the highest level of readiness ahead of this large-scale attack from iran. together, with our partners, the israel defense forces is operating at full force to defend the state of israel, and the people of israel. >> in a statement tonight, iran said this will be the only response to israel's strike on the conflict at the beginning of the month, which killed two of tehran's top commanders. iranian officials vowed revenge for the attack, and in their statement they warned that the

u.s. must stay away. moments ago, the president releasing a statement saying he condemns these attacks in the strongest possible terms. he says he is convening g7 leaders to coordinate a united diplomatic response to the attack tomorrow. our earlier biden met with principals in the national security council in the white house situation room for two hours according to a senior administration official. then spoke with israeli prime minister netanyahu. we will bring you the details from that call as we have them. we want to start in the middle east with nbc news josh letterman to talk more about this. what more are you learning, josh, that's developing at this hour? >> we are starting to see the global diplomatic scramble to try to contain this crisis and prevent it from escalating into a full-fledged war. you mentioned president biden announcing that he's planning to convene the g7 leaders tomorrow. we're expecting a un security council meeting at the request

of the israelis. we're also hearing from prime minister richie's neck in the uk in the last few minutes, saying in his own statement that alongside our allies we are urgently working to stabilize the situation and prevent further escalation. the message that we will continue to hear, the drumbeat that is starting to emerge, is one of restraint. in that statement that president biden just released talking about his call with netanyahu, he says he told the israeli prime minister that israel demonstrated a remarkable capacity to defend itself against and defeat unprecedented attacks. the president going on to say that they had sent a clear message to its those that they cannot effectively threaten the security of israel. if you read between the lines just a little bit, the president seems to be saying, in this message delivered to netanyahu, now publicly and presumably privately as well, you made your point, you've

established not only to terrence, but shown that you can defend yourself against iran, no need to escalate further. no need to prove anything more. i now attacking inside iran, the way prime minister netanyahu has been threatening for some time. that appears to be part and parcel to this urgent effort by so many nations that are allies with israel, but more broadly have an interest in security in the middle east to try to prevent the next escalation, here, but all eyes, now, on israel, whether the prime minister is going to be able to back down from those promises to reallocate, what the israeli public is going to want to see after they've been hiding in shelters while their nation has been bombarded by cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, and drones. the next decision, really, is for israel. >> i'm wondering as we talk about reactions, from folks if we're hearing anything from

jordan to egypt, to saudi and also, from moscow and/or beijing. when it comes to the reaction of this retaliation from iran. >> we really have not heard. it's been interesting, very much, at all from a lot of those nations. we should point out, it's the middle of the night in most of those countries. we have seen, from some corners, more in the west, the condemnation of iran for undertaking this strike. but we have not really seen a lot of the key players weigh in in any kind of public way, especially the ones who are going to be pivotal to how this plays out going forward, the ones that have relationships both with israel and with iran, countries like qatar and egypt, and others. they are going to be pivotal to what develops in the next hours and days, and they may be taking their own breath before

they weigh in publicly to see how public opinion is shaping up on this, and how their own publics are receiving this information as they are watching media coverage that looks very different than ours does tonight. and see how exactly they want to proceed. >> to be clear, 6:04 in the morning, tel aviv, tehran as well, 6:34 a.m. in the morning. iranians, israelis waking up, likely anxious about what is to come in the next 24 hours, if israel decides to retaliate, despite iran saying they are done, here. for now, thank you, retired four-star general nbc news and nbc military analyst barry mccaffrey, and national security editor david rowe to talk more about this. you and i were speaking earlier before we saw these strikes

come through, in anticipation of what was to come. we now know that it was those drones, it was the missiles as well, both crews and ballistic missiles, what did you make of the response from iran, and the statement that we're getting that they're done, unless israel further retaliates. >> i think one thing, is that this is potentially a catastrophic strike on israel. with a couple hundred ballistic missiles, possibly cruise missiles, they could have expected significant damage going after even military targets that are an urban area. the unbelievable performance of israeli air defense systems, prevented all apparently but one child being injured. that's a miracle. this is a serious strike. the second thing we have to take into account is what was netanyahu thinking going after seven iranian leaders and

embassy grounds in syria. he must have known it would provoke a major iranian response. which then occurred. and generals are easier, what's heart is command and control facilities. it seemed to me there was great downside in the ideas and initial strikes, what's going to happen? no one knows, there's an offramp right there available, but, the israelis are going to be reluctant to accept as a new normal a massive attack against israel proper by the iranians. i think they're going to react in some way. >> david, if we think back to the killing, the general that was killed a few years ago, inside iraq, and we think about the retaliation then from the

iranians on a u.s. air base in which there were no casualties but severe brain damage, from my understanding. it ended there. and is really also have the decision, the prime minister, i should say, and his cabinet have the decision as to whether they will respond. they could make the decision to end it here.for tat as iran is putting in their statement. what are your expectations on where the prime minister and his cabinet are considering what we have seen, and of the supplies in your mind over the last seven months. >> i think it's a truism, a cliche, but all politics are local. the key player is benjamin netanyahu. he's behind in the polls, there's going to be elections in israel in the fall, he's going to make the decision that i think helps him the most politically. that's the riddle, the question, does he think is he going to opt to side more so

with the israeli far right, and maybe carry out an attack against iran? there's a concern among u.s. officials, my colleagues have reported on this tonight, that some u.s. officials fear that the israelis have been, and netanyahu might want to drag the u.s. into a regional war. that some on the israeli right might think they can take on iran, they can take on hezbollah and lebanon and succeed. many u.s. officials think that would be disastrous. or, does netanyahu pause? does he hope to attract more centrist is really voter, and let this end here? i agree with your mccaffrey there could be some small israeli response, but, if israel unleashes a large retaliation inside iranian territory, it's a very dangerous they can escalate and spread across the region. >> is netanyahu if he does and if he doesn't at this point,

david? there's a lot of internal strife when it comes to netanyahu and his popularity. since the war began after october the seventh and the attack. we know there's been coverage of continued protest on the ground in israel, if he goes forward and retaliates, if he does not hold back, it will prolong this war, which will, some argue, keep him in power for longer. >> i think what most israelis are looking for is security. you've seen while americans in the biden administration are pushing for a two state solution most israelis aren't ready for that in the wake of october 7th. but i think israelis don't want a wider regional war. taking on hezbollah would be an exponentially bigger challenge for israel. israeli efforts in lebanon against hezbollah have not gone well. there could be a small response from netanyahu, if he can bide time, take a small response to

not overreact, that would possibly help him politically, and israel would help him in washington, that's unquestionably what the biden administration wants. and he will be redoubled american effort to push for a cease-fire in gaza, not in the days ahead but in the weeks ahead to try to finally end the conflict and bring more stability to israel and hopefully the region. >> what do you think that response would look like? >> i think dave is entirely correct. if netanyahu has an ounce of sense, he will back off. the iranians are pathetically vulnerable to attack by israeli f-35s, and indeed, submarine launched missiles, and land- based ballistic and cruise missiles. if the idf goes after them they will lose a lot of their nuclear power capability, they can strike symbolic targets, it would be humiliating.

it could be a disaster. at the end of the day, military power is a terrible way to signal political intent. the last thing israel wants is a war with hezbollah to the north. it would be catastrophic. they would overwhelm israeli air defenses, 120,000 some odd missiles, and rockets and a substantial ground combat force. so one can only hope that cooler heads will prevail. among the israeli leadership, and they'll back off and leave this alone. go back to talking diplomatic channels instead of using military power to signal intent. >> general, the head of hezbollah at this point until now has said he wouldn't get involved, he would get hezbollah to get involved from the north. what do you think would make him change his mind? >> i think the iranians, if they iranians tell him to do it, he'll attack.

but israel has suffered enormously at the hands of hezbollah already. they've evacuated 80,000 some odd israeli citizens. they depopulated the north. a lot of their active israeli military is now facing the north, not in gaza. gaza had 60,000 israeli troops and four divisions, they're down to five to 10,000 forces, now. they're worried about hezbollah. one can only hope they stay out of the war. if hezbollah gets involved in a major ground intervention with missile attacks, that is likely to draw the united states into the conflict. and i think the biden administration, secretary blinken, is going to do everything they can to avoid that. now is the time for calm decision-making on the part of the israelis in particular. >> while iran will not let on, do you think they understand their own vulnerability? both domestically, i will say,

and internationally as well. and i bring this up because, if they were to go further with this conflict, and it becomes for tat, and it increases, for instance, and the united states were to back up israel even more. the iranian regime could be vulnerable. and we know netanyahu and his government have been gunning for change of government. in iran for some time. >> they are vulnerable. we saw enormous protests after a young woman was killed in iran, which were brutally suppressed by lethal force, by this regime. but i do think this was a massive attack in terms of 200 rounds and missiles, and we have to see what emerges as the day begins in israel. but, the reports of striking a military base in the desert in southern israel, that suggests that military facilities were

targeted. we'll have to see how many missiles were targeted at tel aviv. this was the best case scenario, that the iranian regime felt it had to strike back against israel after this attack in damascus. that killed iranian generals, but they didn't want to overdo their own attack. so they would look tough to their local populace that they will fight back against israel. they telegraphed this for quite a while, israel knew it was coming, the u.s. knew it was coming, and it was concentrated outside of population areas in israel, that shows that it was a measured attack from iran, and we're back to this question. does netanyahu step back, or does he miscalculate, go too far, and possibly draw iran into a wider war? >> one last question, do you think the audience was more domestic audience or regional one in making the decision the way that they did to retaliate

you mark >> i think both, domestically and the proxies they have across the region. they have to stand up to israel, and that's what this was. this has never happened before, iran has never carried out a direct military attack on israel. we see what comes next. >> and we cannot stress that enough, how unprecedented this moment in history, i would say. really is in this attack we are seeing unfold. general, thank you, david road, thank you as well, coverage continuing next with chief white house correspondent for the new york times with more on tonight's phone call between president biden and israeli prime minister netanyahu, we'll be right back. back. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. that's great. i know, i've bee telling everyone. baby: liberty. oh! baby: liberty.

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we're back with more breaking news on the iranian air strikes in israel. this hour the president releasing a statement saying he had spoken to prime minister benjamin netanyahu, reaffirming america's ironclad commitment of the security of israel. the call came hours after the president concluded a two hour long meeting with his national security council where they discussed iran's attack and how to lend support for israel. the present had once news of an impending attack was confirmed. want to bring in to discuss the white house continued response is peter baker, chief white house correspondent for the new york times. as always it's good to talk you, thanks for joining us so late this evening.

what do we know about what went down in this two hour long national security council meeting? >> they haven't given us a lot of detail, but you heard the president say in that statement that he reassured prime minister netanyahu that he has ironclad support of the united states in this confrontation, and that he, president biden, is on his side. he praised the prime minister's military for being able to respond adequately to this attack, and made clear that there is no space to be seen between them. that's significant because nine days ago, he and the prime minister had another call that didn't go so well. it was a lot more tense, about the gaza situation which the president threatened the prime minister saying if you don't get your act together in gaza i might have to do something like pulling my support. the difference between nine days ago and today is dramatic and important. he said he would be in support of israel if there was an attack by iran, but now that attack has happened and it changed the dynamics of that situation right now between

president biden and prime minister netanyahu. >> expand if you will on some of the reporting we're getting here at nbc as well, which is, what netanyahu's ultimate objective was in going after these iranian generals in the first place. what he was looking to start. whether or not he was looking to pull the united states into a bigger conflict. is that something you think the president would bring up with the prime minister in their phone conversation? >> so far you hear american officials are standing by the israelis on this, but there certainly are suspicions among critics of the israeli government wondering whether or not this was, as you say, a way of getting america off their back about their conduct with the war in gaza by shifting attention to a mutual threat, iran. but, a lot of the white house officials and officials that i talked to, accept that these iranian generals were legitimate target on some

level. iran has orchestrated attack after attack on western interests, including threatening in israel's view security. so not hearing a lot of doubt expressed right now by the white house about the motivations behind the attack that led to today's retaliation, and for the moment they're trying to make sure there is no daylight scene between them. >> if there was justification, did they not expect that iran would retaliate, or did they, did the prime minister and his cabinet, where they welcoming this retaliation, looking to mend a relationship with the united states that they felt was fracturing? >> we're going to debate about the motivation, the effect will be, if not repair relations, recalibrate right now in terms of washington and jerusalem. instead of the main topic being humanitarian aid to gaza and

avoiding civilian casualties in gaza as the president was emphasizing in a phone call a week ago, you'll hear talk about israel's security and precarious position in the region, and the danger that iran poses to america's friend in the region, that's a welcome conversation in a way that israel would like to have to remind people who have been critical of them that they live in a dangerous neighborhood. but it won't set up i a lot of people who think that israel has gone too far in gaza and it may not last long. if the casualties are light, if the damage is light as we hear in the initial report, this may be a temporary conversation unless this escalates into a wider war. that's something president biden has been trying to avoid, the last thing he wanted was a wider war, he tried to keep it as confined as possible and we don't know where it's going to go from here. the fact that there are not so far, reports of large-scale casualties means that it will not go as far as people had

feared, but, as some of your guests said previously, we have not seen attacks by iran into israel before, and that's a new ball game. >> real quick, i expect the president to have any type of conversation with the president of china? i ask this because he is a friend of iran, and while the united states and china have a frosty relationship they met not that long ago. >> president biden did speak by phone a little while ago about two weeks ago, i don't know if plans for him to speak with him again but you're right to point out that china does have a role to play, here, a change in the historic pattern of these middle east conflicts, china had not been a major player until recent years, right now they have played a role between iran and saudi arabia, for instance. china has an economic as well as strategic interest in the region.

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of the retaliatory attack on israel, in a statement the israeli military saying it intercepted dozens of hostile aircraft as well as dozens of cruise missiles that were approaching israeli territory. so far iran has fired more than 200 different kinds of missiles and drones according to the idf. nbc has confirmed reporting that the u.s. military has shot down some of those drones. i want to bring in senior editor at bloomberg opinion to talk more about this along with the harvard belford associate and carnegie fellow as well. i'm going to have you start things off for us, and give me your reaction to what we're seeing out of iran right now. >> it seems like iran is quite enthusiastic about the propensity to demonstrate capabilities that the long touted. throughout iranian state media and telegram and public commentators, there is this sense of confidence that came from the ability to not only strike and penetrate missile defense systems within israel, but also the range of it and the extent of this attack on

israel. there's that sense that of confidence, but behind the scenes i think that there's a lot more circumspect opinions coming out of iran, the decision-making sectors where potentially this would open up prospects of an attack from israel. >> i've been hearing from folks inside iran who have told me that they are scared. there's a run for gas right now. people are worried about what may be coming in the next couple of days, or so. i know there certainly anxiety on the ground in israel as well as there was overnight in tel aviv and jerusalem. what are you expecting when it comes to a response from israel, and you believe iran when they say they're done for now? of course. >> but for now, what you are saying about what you are hearing, from iran tracks from people i know, people that have been in touch with for a long

time. they've been stocking up on gas and essential supplies, and it's the question not just in iran but everybody across the middle east, and washington. how is israel going to respond? the president, if you read his statement, and if you see some of the reporting emerging from that phone call he had from netanyahu, he seems to be encouraging victory, because their defense systems managed to ward off this attack, to me, that sounds like he's saying you won this round, there's no need. but netanyahu, israel operate on their own calculations of security, and politics. i don't think we can take it for granted that israel will be satisfied simply by having prevented, thwarted these attacks. just as these attacks were the result of the iranian supreme

leader coming under pressure to respond. netanyahu will come under pressure from the right side of israeli politics, to show some kind of response of his own. that's the concern, the escalation ladder that these countries seem to be climbing, bit by bit. today, and important, several important milestones were crossed. it's hard to see people walking back from that. now that iran has directly attacked israeli territory from its own territory, with its own missiles, not just using proxies, that marks a new level in this long attrition between these countries. and everybody across the region, across the world, is asking what happens next. who is going to escalate from here? >> nicole, we can only take

from what we've seen most recently, and after the invasion into gaza after the attack the terrorist attack october 7th, it hasn't seemed as if netanyahu has had a plan, nor has his conservative cabinet as to what is with gaza, on the day after. and i'm wondering if we're seeing similar clues, here, after the attack on the iranian general, syria, this retaliation now. that netanyahu may not have a plan as to what to do next. which may be what is worrying the united states. so much. >> perhaps netanyahu might not have a plan on what to do next, but it's one of his long- standing goals to engage, or erode the capabilities of iran. this has been long-standing for netanyahu, getting back to the trump administration, his resignation over the iran nuclear deal, his opposition to the iran deal and the bombastic rhetoric coming towards iran.

the netanyahu regime has been much more assertive toward iran in that sense. it's been a long-standing goal that it has now come to fruition. the attacks on april 1st were in many ways escalate tori because it was an iranian diplomatic entity. but israel has been escalating the stakes with iran for quite a while, as recent as december 2023, when another irgc level adviser has been long-standing, and i think netanyahu anticipated some kind of broader escalation with the attack on april 1st. whether or not he has a plan on how to escalate or de-escalate that, that's not known at the moment. >> thank you, coming up next, representative on what congress could do in response to tonight's breaking news out of israel, we'll be right back. b.

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on this. how do you think israel should, in fact, react? >> that's going to be up to israel, but many of us are concerned that the reaction may well be that israel will now attack in iran. creating even one more step on the escalate tori ladder. as for congress, the supplemental funding for ukraine, humanitarian aid, taiwan as well as israel has been totally hung up by the republicans simply cannot get their act together on that. i suspect that this attack by iran into israel is going to change that dynamic in a very, swift and meaningful way. >> why do you think the supplemental funding aid right now is important to get past?

>> we know that is absolutely critical to ukraine. we know that if congress delays anymore, another week, two weeks, it is probable that ukraine will run out of munitions and will not be able to sustain its defensive position. leading to a fallback in their position. that would be catastrophic for ukraine. and that it might very well open the door for russia. with regard to israel, the issue in israel is somewhat different. the way in which israel has conducted itself in gaza, leading to more than 30,000 deaths of which most are civilians and half our children, has led to a very serious pushback in congress against providing funding to israel until he changes his

tactics. and that is what is probably going to be changed as a result of the iranian attack in israel. that will probably change the dynamics, which might free up the entire package leading to support both for israel as well as for humanitarian purposes in gaza. and ukraine. >> congressman, while israel is vulnerable to these attacks from iran and depending on how much this escalates could become much more vulnerable, they have not yet changed their tactics in gaza. >> therein lies tomorrow. and the next day. congress will be back on monday, we'll see what happens between now and there.

the president and myself and many other members of congress said no, we're not going to go with more aid, not the president but the president has been pushing hard for israel to change his tactics, many of us in congress say no more aid to israel until it changes its tactics. and we'll see what happens. we'll see what takes place, now. clearly, israel has been attacked by iran, and we and others including the president said israel has the right to protect itself. whether that means israel has the wherewithal, and intends to attack iran in iran is another matter. clearly, that would be a escalation, escalate tori action, and may very well lead to a very wide war in the entire middle east.

there's some talk right now that hezbollah is increasing its attacks in northern israel. we know the houthis are not about to step away from their attacks on the red sea shipping. so it's going to be very complex, but with regard to israel, and gaza and hamas, that's blowing in the wind, but if they continue to do indiscriminate aerial bombardments, it's going to get very difficult for israel. >> congressman, thank you. after the break, a wider look at what tonight's developments mean for the region with someone who literally wrote the book on the israel palestinian conflict. doug waxman is here next. a pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like asthma, diabetes, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. copd, or heart disease, or are 65 or older,

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leaders to coordinate a diplomatic response to the attack tomorrow. the un security council will also meet tomorrow following a request to hold an emergency meeting from israel's ambassador to the u.n. want to bring in waxman director of the center for israel studies at ucla, thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate it. we want some reporting and that the united states is worried that israel, specifically the prime minister, is trying to draw the united states into a wider conflict, a wider war. what do you see as the objective of the prime minister, along with his cabinet, in going over those iranian generals in syria which has led to these strikes that we're talking about this evening. >> it's not actually clear how involved the prime minister was in the decision to target the iranian consulate building. i'm not sure if it's true to suggest that netanyahu wants to

escalate matters, certainly wouldn't want to risk a full- scale war. historically, he is actually quite risk-averse when it comes to military action. was taking place in gaza suggests otherwise, but i don't think he has any at by a desire to go to a full-scale war with iran, but it's likely that he will respond, and that is where we will respond militarily to the iranian attack. >> so if netanyahu, was not involved possibly in making the decision to go after the generals, who would have been? do they not need his signoff to do something like that? >> ordinarily you would think of an attack of that significance would be personally authorized by prime minister netanyahu or the security cabinet. in this instance, he was undergoing a surgery at the time. so, it's not clear, it's been conflicting with how involved he himself was or the war cabinet in making that

decision. the idea has been operating with more leeway really since the beginning of the gaza war, in terms of the decisions it makes and the air strikes. it's not clear to me that netanyahu himself was responsible for this, or if he was that this was aimed at escalating the situation. although i do think the biden administration have good reason to be concerned about how israel might respond, and whether that could end up drawing the united states into war. >> how do you expect netanyahu to respond to these strikes? >> there's going to be a military response. the fact that the damage that the iranian attack inflicted was relatively small, suggest to me that the israeli response will be proportionate, likely targeting military targets inside iran but avoiding any civilian targets and avoiding too much damage on iran which

could escalate the situation further. i don't think israel or iran are interested in full-scale war. >> certainly we're going to be watching developments from the region over the next 24 to 38 hours to see what happens there. thank you so much for joining us so late in the hour, we appreciate it. thank you for spending the last hour with us, i'm msnbc of breaking news coverage continues after a quick break. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪♪) detect this: living with hiv, robert learned he can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why he switched to dovato. dovato is a complete hiv treatment for some adults. no other complete hiv pill uses fewer medicines

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