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and good morning. it's sunday, april 14th and i am richard lui spes breaking news coverage of the iran strikes against israel. here's what we know right now. saturday evening, local time, iran launched a massive attack on israel and fired more than 300 projectiles about 170 drones, about 30 cruise missiles, and about 120 ballistic missiles according to the israel defense forces. the idf adding that with u.s. assistance, 99% of those projectiles were intercepted. idf ace says a few ballistic missiles hit israel causing slight damage to an israeli air
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force base. in a statement this morning the israel defense minimums tear says they thwarted the most significant wave of the attack and did so successfully. younger was injured in the attack according to the idf and it's the first time iran has ever conducted a direct military attack on israel. the statement iran's says the attack is in retaliation for the april 1st idf strike that killed 12 people including high ranking members of the revolutionary guard opinion they called the drone and missile strikes self-defense and cited the u.n. charter as legal basis for conducting those. iran's u.n. mission says iran's considers the matter concluded. but that if israel makes another mistake to expect a more severe response. u.s. officials say u.s. warships in the region as well as u.s. forces in iraq and
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syria assisted in the defensive measures. u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin says the u.s. shot down dozens of iranian drones and missile. president biden spoke with israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu reaffirming united states commitment to israel. how israel responds is a concern for friends and foes of israel alike. a senior administration official and senior definances official telling nbc news top u.s. officials are concerned about how israel could respond now and how regional and global ripples may come to pass. joining me from jerusalem is nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engle. richard, morning has come afternoon has come now, and what does the damage look like? what is the concern of a response from israel? >> reporter: so, in terms of physical damage, there's really none to speak of. i mean, jerusalem now looking off camera, there's traffic on
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the streets. no buildings were damaged here. nothing in tel aviv. you broke down the attack of what was fired at israel. so about 170 drones. none of those entered israeli airspace. all were shot down either by the u.s. or allies or israeli defenses. there were 30 cruise missiles. none entered israeli territory israeli airspace. same situation all shot down. the israeli military says 120 ballistic missiles, now those are very different from cruise missiles or drones. cruise missiles effectively fly like aircraft and they are cruise missiles and they are designed to travel long distances at reveltively low speeds and hug the terrain and maneuverable. drones similar very maneuverable relatively inexpensive and slow speed all of those shot down before they entered israeli airspace. ballistic missiles are much
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more what we would think of as a traditional missile. huge rocket missile, points up on a path and is fired and travels with enormous speed for example it took hours to reach israel. ballistic took minutes. of all the types of weaponry fired at israel, ballistic missiles 120 is by far the most severe. but only a handful of those got through, and they exploded according to the israeli military, on a base in a remote part of the country in the desert area in southern israel and caused minor damage to the base or on the base, so little damage that the base is fully functional according to the israeli military. so, i think you can say almost no damage was caused by this attack. there is, however, that 7-year- old girl who was severely injured, but police are still trying to determine the exact
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circumstances of her injury. was it caused by some antiaircraft debris falling or shrapnel. we know that this one girl in southern israel not far from that military base was apparently injured. the second question, however, how will israel respond to this. >> yeah. >> reporter: the conventional wisdom is for now, this is over. but i've been speaking this morning to diplomats across the arab world and they are very concerned, very concerned particularly about israeli prime minister binge minimum netanyahu. will he use this as a pretext to escalate the campaign further. they speculate because he has a personal motivation in doing this and long been itching for a war with iran. so there is concern across the middle east that israel could respond further, but like i said, the conventional wisdom is that it's over, and the u.s. would like to see this over.
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that iran has made it clear that it wants it to be over for now. the remaining question is how will israeli government prime minister respond. >> what's your sense of the tone as you were watching the idf spokesperson come on air, if you will, several times yesterday, and you were listening to what was being said and now we are on the day after. what's the tone you think that they are positioning for in terms of the next step? any sense there? >> reporter: very hard to know because there's so many different factions right now. israel is divided. this country was divided before the october 7th attacks and is divided now. this were protests on the streets before the october 7th hamas attack against prime minister netanyahu, hundreds of thousands of people out on the streets. then the october 7th massacre happened and the country went on war footing and a sense of
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trauma here with all the hostage taken, and now over the last several weeks, those protests have been increasing once again on israeli streets. even just yesterday, there was a protest in tel aviv hours before this attack. so, there is a significant portion of israeli society that has lost confidence in prime minister netanyahu. has lost confidence in his ability to governor this country and defend this country, and there are others, however, who believe that he is on the right path that the government insist what it is doing is absolutely necessary and will continue to defend israel. so, i think it's hard to get one singular message from the military or the israeli public at the time as it is really -- it's really uncharted territory. first to have a catastrophic security collapse like we saw on october 7th, and now, for the first time, a long shadow
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war between israel and iran coming out into the open. and the first time israel is being attacked directly from iranian territory. so, there are two-ways of looking at it. look at this as a time that israel needs to defend itself and prove its strength and be strong and respond and hit hard or you can say, that this is a sign of that israel security is not in good shape. that it is -- that it missed the october 7th attack and now is in a shooting war with iran that the region and the united states want to contain. >> and nbc chief foreign correspondent richard engle, thanks so much there in jerusalem. appreciate it. joining us now retired lieutenant general steph twite and analyst and formerly deputy commander of united states european command, and area we are talking about he knows well. thanks for joining us.
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you heard the reporting at the moment. we are also learning in the last 12, 10, 12 hours. that the airspace has reopened this morning over israel. lebanon and jordan and iraq. what does that tell you in terms of what may be happening in the next day because of the concern as you know so well, is a response coming from israel. >> good to be with you this morning. obviously, we are in a period of uncertainty. and the ball is clearly in israel's court. israel can view this as their defense was successful, caused minimal damage and that their minimal casualties. i think one kid that was injured, and chalk this up as a success or they can view this as being provocative, and try to attack, obviously. i think prime minister netanyahu is going to be under a lot of pressure from the
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biden administration from the west to call this successful and let's move on and focus back on gaza and finishing up that war. and so, what i think is happening here is you got folks to close the airspace, obviously they want to open the airspace back up. iraq, jordan, for their own citizens, but i think we are starting to see, you know, in this period of uncertainty here, that we are going to be okay going through this. what we don't want to do, as you know, is ignite a regional conflict here and so this is a tenderbox, and we are going to be treading lightly until we hear what israel's next move is going to be. >> as you are on air yesterday, richard engle on air yesterday, as we saw the missiles, projectiles going towards israel, it at least for all of that to happen 150 drones
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launched to the time the final missiles fell. seem like they arrive at same time. the cadence and duration of three hours, why was not it all at once? >> yeah, think what we have here is that iran does not want a war with the u.s. and certainly not with israel. and so i think what they are doing is playing to domestic audience. they had to respond back. because obviously we had iranians killed, seven of them. and the other piece of this, iran wants to be the big dog in the region. and if they did not strike back, they would seem very weak across the region. and so, they did this in a fashion that was already televised by the u.s. and the u.s. had already tipped off
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israel. and so, israel was pretty defendable having gotten a heads up from us, and a core alix participateed u.s. shot down 70 missiles or drones. and i am hearing that the uk played a role and france played a role. and so, i think what we have here was a metered response from iran because they didn't want for further escalation of this. >> the numbers really quickly here, general, the idf the source we have 300 plus projectiles as mentioned earlier. they say 99% were intercepted either by idf or other parties and some you were mentioning. that would mean roughly about three or four made it through. does the math add up? >> yes, it does. and i understand that the ballistic missiles are the ones that got through.
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those are the ones that i anticipated would get through. and i am told it hit an idf military facility down south. and so ballistic missiles are hard to shoot down. the patriots and the david sling participated going after the high altitude missiles. and you expect some to get through. but the intent to overwhelm the iron dome umbrella over israel in order to allow some of these to get through. >> general, what if the united states did not assist israel in its defense? would we have seen not three or four but instead three or four dozen making it through? >> absolutely. if you look at this, the u.s. participation was pretty significant. we have air defense systems
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throughout the region. the pay the patriot or the burk sitting in seas, and so, i am told about 70 whether drones or missiles, were shot down by the u.s. so that's pretty significant. and we supported our ally israel, pretty good here. >> retired lieu phenyl general steph twite work overtime. thanks so much i appreciate your expertise and perspective. >> take care, richard. president biden and prime minister netanyahu spoke last night. reporting on what they discussed and what it means with respect to how israel may respond today. we will head to the white house for the latest next on msnbc. l here's to getting better with age. here's to beating these two every thursday. help fuel today with boost high protein, complete nutrition you need... ...without the stuff you don't. so, here's to now. boost.
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with the national security team in the situation room for two hours on the briefing of the latest developments. and biden held a phone call with benjamin net and reiterated united states ironclad commitment but a senior administration offense and defense official told nbc news there's concern among top u.s. officials how israel could respond to this attack. and the repercussions that could follow on a regional and global level. let's go now to nbc news white house correspondent allie rafah. how are they handling this. >> reporter: good morning. this is a delicate position for the president to be in. as he vows what he is calling iron glad support for israel in the wake of the attack by iran while also being concerned about the possibility that the u.s. could be dragged deeper into this conflict. something that the white house has fought very hard to avoid since the war between israel
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and hamas began six months ago. u.s. official say some of them are concerned israel could respond quickly without thinking through the potential fallout of the actions saying those concerns stem in part from the administration views the approach israel has taken to the war against hamas and attack in damascus syria that killed several top iranian military commanders. and remember, this all comes against the backdrop of what biden aides say are private concerns the president has that prime minister netanyahu is trying to pull the u.s. deeper into the war for political reasons. senior administration official telling nbc that the u.s. is contending with a potential direct war between two nations states obviously a significant expansion from where the conflict between iran and israel has been until now. and all of this is leaving this open question of whether iran will consider the u.s. essentially guilty by association if and when the u.s. supports israel's expected
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response to that strike, richard. >> nbc allie raffa thanks for that reporting. iran is portraying the attack as a success that the situation is now cop clueded as well. but it said it could escalate the responses even further what at that could look look for the region next on msnbc. the region next on msnbc. the age tr ? [both] because i said cologuard®! -hey there! -where did he come from? -yup, with me you can screen at home. just talk to your provider. [both] we'll screen with cologuard and do it my way. cologuard is a one-of-a-kind way to screen for colon cancer that's effective and non-invasive. it's for people 45+ at average risk, not high risk. false positive and negative results may occur. ask your provider for me, cologuard. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space?
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matter can be deemed concluded now. however, iran also warns any potential future attacks against it will be met with responses that would be "more severe. i am joined by jamal president of the national iranian american council and executive director of the sister organization niac action. thanks for joining us today. i wanted to get to something that just came out within the last half-hour according to the associated press. the state run iranian news agency saying that they are warning the united states against any cooperation with israel in any new attack, and they did this through the swiss embassy handling u.s. interest in iran right now in the absence of diplomatic relations as you know so well. >> just part of the course of what iran might be doing as they have in the past? >> i think this has been an interest of iran from the beginning of the conflict. and i think that the strikes
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that iran conducted were sort of clearly core gaffed and aimed at grabbed of showing their capability without creating a war. it's clear communication from iran in this regard where as, netanyahu, i think, has sought to brought the u.s. into the conflict and i think for it's important that they stay out. >> so, if this is has the element which i think what you are saying partially the element of political theater is it being done well based on the statement from the state run new agency this morning, you are saying the type of missiles used and timing of the missiles and the lead up to it and the actually telegraphic this would be happening. if this is all part what have they want to be done, will this then lead to a nonresponse from israel at this point you think?
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>> this is the million dollar question. i think it was surprising that the attacks were launched from iran proper. and not from some other location. so that is maybe more provocative than we would have thought going into this. that being said, this is all i think the iranians and the u.s. and biden administration are really concerned about where does israel take this. and from the beginning, from the assassination you know the bombing of the consulate in damascus, is this about expanding the war? has iran sort of given netanyahu the invitation to do what he had already planned which was to regionalize the war. so, remains to be seen. >> they -- in the statement that was made again to the united nations to iran this could be more severe. what could more severe look like based on i will say the
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obvious question, the concern of nuclear tipped missiles? >> well, iran doesn't have that capability. the nuclear program has accelerated significantly since donald trump abandoned the nuclear agreement. but they are not there yet. and that is the other question looming over this. is this finally what incentivizes iran to cross the threshold and actively pursue nuclear weapons. there's an argument for deterrence that probably has gained credence over the past couple weeks. >> more proxy activity programs. >> i think there's certainly the concern about proxy activity, about hezbollah getting involved. i think that's a major potential vulnerability that could spark even more conflict. so there's ways for "ran to potentially ratchet this up and it's notable the statements they are putting out is
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essentially we said or peace and this is concluded and maybe this can be the end of it for now. >> so this is history making, in the middle east this attack that happened overnight. is this then also an indication of a loss of a moderate voice in leadership in iran? >> well, think that the -- inside the iran the hard line conservatives have consolidated power and there's not a lot of significant debate featuring moderate or reformist voices. i think that path has been embarked upon. i real questions are does it get reigned in or does this introduce a new wartime environment for iran where you have upper elements consolidating power and operating as a wartime nation, which i think would be terrible for the iranian people who are already suffering under massive sanctions it is, and state repression. and so, i think everybody is really at least for myself praying this is the end of
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this, and that the biden administration steps in and figures out how to de-escalate because things can only get worse, i think, for all of the people of the region. >> no more new thresholds, please is what you are saying. thank you so much. president of the national iranian american council. iran says the situation is over and israel says that's not the case. the concern is other countries in the region could be brought in. what we need to be watching for next on msnbc. watching for next on nbmsc. (♪♪) [shaking] itchy pet? (♪♪) with chewy, save 20% on your first pharmacy order so you can put an end to the itch. get flea and tick medication delivered right to your door. [panting]
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iran's retaliatory attacks against israel came with subsequent warnings for israel and united states not to take further action but israel defense minister wrote, the campaign is not over yet. we must be prepared for every scenario but the latest is not just about iran and israel. it raised concerns about the possibility of a wider regional conflict. iran has many allies and proxys in the middle east and governments across the region are on high alert about how things might develop in the coming days in iran and israel. joining me is senior diplomatic correspondent for the post. great to see you and thanks for being with us. want to start with this. and this was said by former national security officer to donald trump's adviser to
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donald trump richard bolton on cnn yesterday. john bolton excuse me. i want to play this right now. >> almost certainly at this point, none of those missiles contained a nuclear warhead. but you never can tell when the next salvo of ballistics missiles might contain nuke clear warhead. so he think among the many targets israel should consider this is the opportunity to destroy iran's nuclear weapons program. and i hope president biden is not trying to dissuade prime minister netanyahu from doing that. >> when you listen to the former ambassador and form national security adviser what do you think of that very possibility being entertained right now and what that might mean for the region? >> yeah, richard, thanks for having me. look, he says you never can tell if iran will launch a
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nuclear warhead. what you can always tell ambassador bolton and a huge bevy of hawks here in the u.s. and israel are going to be saying, the time is right for escalation in iran to full scale war this that's the consistent drum beat billion before he october 7th and april 1st israeli strike and well before the ratcheting up in tensions. the question that needs to be asked is has that approach of constant saber rattling of saying let's hit them harder and kind of take them down, gotten us anywhere. i think president biden and a number of members of congress have spoken up have been clear they support israel's right to defense, but there is not an appetite for a major regional war. right, the sense that the u.s., israel and other countries could go and had the iran in an unprecedented way. the consequences of that are so potentially massive, unforeseen and hugely costly, that i don't
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see an appetite it beyond a small group of people calling for it for a very long time. >> what do you make of the reaction so far from the neighboring countries in that region from what happened in the last 24 hours? >> yeah, think you know they have the most to lose as a number of close u.s. partners egypt, saudi arabia, qatar, turkey. what's so interesting right in this moment is that you saw arab countries some of whom have had active wars with israel, right within living memory like jordan. stand up and kind of defend against this iranian attack. but i would contextualize that really in the sense of both these countries have their sovereignty at stake jordanians sawedis and others and second, again, they don't want this to be a devastating attack both against israeli civilian target and also against the state of israel when it is still struggling with the trauma of
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keeping open the possibility of further retaliation in response to iran's attack saying that the situation is not yet over. after the break, we will take you inside prime minister netanyahu thinking and what could come in the immediate future. that's next on msnbc. immediate future. that's next on msnbc. my name is marie. i'm 49 years old and i'm a business owner. i own a lemonade and ice cream shop in florida, so i can feel and see that my lines have gotten deeper just from a year out in the sun. i'm still marie and i got botox® cosmetic.
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administration official now telling nbc news that in the last night's call between president buyen and israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu biden told him the u.s. commitment to defend israel is ironclad. but united states will not participate in offensive operations against iran. that official said president biden also told netanyahu to take the win and that israel should not retaliate further. joining us now an independent journalist who has been covering the middle east and the united states role in the region for more than two decades. we got that in, no offensive support here. we are getting that read out from the conversation. and as you know so well, the question will be, does netanyahu listen. >> that will be one of the questions. i wanted to congratulate nbc because this news is making head lives right now all over israel.
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because this is the first confirmation israelis have gotten from the u.s. point of view about that very, very clear message from joe biden. and as usual, in recent weeks, the president is really straddling the break line within israel. netanyahu and his political allies who are on the extreme right have been itching for even promising some sort of israeli seriousness powerful retaliation was the words used against iran. and in the last few hours, when you hear interviews and conversations with the people behind the weapon systems, the mostly men and some women who for the last, i would say close to 50 years has been work on this level of air defense systems and last night was their historic test and it was an out of the ball park
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success. so they are really feeling -- they are having a victory lap like the president suggested netanyahu should do. i have my doubts about whether netanyahu is capable of taking that kind of a victory lap and making a major statement to the israeli people who survived a night about this. but we are going to have to wait at least a few more hours to see what happens. >> in the fuse hours or after, what will you be watching? in terms of what israelis want as well as those around netanyahu in terms what have the next steps should be. obviously, there is a thought he may take the more hawkish view and still respond but those outside netanyahu himself and israelis, what do you think they want next? >> a huge majority of israelis, between 70 and 80% of israelis without equivocation want the war to come to an end.
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they want netanyahu to call for early elections and they want a chance to boot him out. and they are relieved this terrifying night passed almost without any israeli casualties. so, what you have in ies real right now is this almost like you know scratches on the blackboard situation where on the one hand, there is immense gratitude to the united states and to other allied nations in this what was an unannounced hugely successful alliance, including the uk, jordan, even saudi arabia, that gathered forces, all under the united states and along with israel, did the job. so, that iran's, you know, historic massive attack on israel, has a failure. on the other hand, you have explicit calls for revenge against iran from netanyahu's
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top people already from the start of this. >> with the tale of two weeks, president biden losing confidence in what the way israel was handling gaza strip, and this week rather last 24 hours and the way the president according to the new reporting we are sharing right now, the president is saying we are not going to support any offensive moves going forward. how does that affect netanyahu with being able to straddle both of those messages at the same time. >> netanyahu is in a difficult spot and of his own making. he chose to establish proud boys. he has his minister of internal security convicted 13 times of hate crimes was never before held any executive office. so he is surrounded by penal not competent to handle a situation. and it has to be said again,
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last night's massive victory for israel is thanks to international alliances and technology and netanyahu has to make a decision on if he is going to be on the side of the united states, and israeli advancement military advancement in this case. or if he is going to exceed to pressures from the more extremist partners. thus far, what he has basically done is in public said that he was going with the extremists, and in private, not done very much. i am not sure that kind of a wishy-washy attitude is going to work this time around. >> one israeli former political official saying that based on the united states assistance, and the last 12 to 24 hours, that now netanyahu owes the united states and president biden even more and that therefore the united states or
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president biden's opinion and guidance needs to be listened to even more than before. would that sound logical to you. >> that sounds 100% logical to me. and in fact, netanyahu, let's put it lack of graciousness, the fact when the assault appeared to have been successfully deterred, very, very late last night, netanyahu tweeted very tiny little post in which he said, we deterred, we stopped them together we will win. without mentioning the united states. and he, you know, at least on social networks, has really, really been attacked for you know how could he not as a first sentence thank israel's ally the united states and thank president biden, who cut short his vacation was basically running this operation out of the white house. so, that is a number one issue in the israeli public space right now. and he's going to face pretty
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massive opposing pressures from the military, from the people on the street, to take this victory and thank the united states, and to move on. and from the people who are keeping him in power, and remember, he is on trial, he's very unpopular, so those people keeping him in power are going to be pushing him the other direction. >> thank you so much. >> thank you, richard. more msnbc special coverage of the iran he an attack on israel right after a short break. el right after a short break. start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. our biggest challenge? uncertainty. hidden fees, surcharges... who knows what to expect! turn shipping to your advantage. keep it simple...with clear, upfront pricing. with usps ground advantage®. ♪♪
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welcome back. joining me is msnpc military analyst and medal of honor recipient. colonel, thanks for joining us. and as you have been reviewing the developments over the last 24 hours i want to add to this. in statement last night president biden said he convened g7 leaders today to coordinate a response and then we are getting that piece of news on the read-out from the
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conversation, that both benjamin netanyahu and joe biden had last night. in that in short, president biden said we will support your defense, we will not support your offense. and any offensive moves no, and if you attack in the future yes, we assist as we did last night. do you think that message will be well heard by the g7 as they move forward and therefore as a course suggest that to netanyahu and he might listen more? >> yes, and this will be reenforced when secretary defense austin has conversations with general gilant which will probably take place even as we speak. reinforcing the difference between offense and defense. nevertheless, we are going to continue provide those weapons that makes it easier for israel to
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continue the defense, sometimes offense and defense, the distinction between them is very, very vague. but in this particular case, the tactics involved, the strategy involved, there's a sharp demarcation. so, what president biden told netanyahu yesterday is going to be reenforced continuously by secretary austin. >> after we got in the results from the project tiles proprojectiles from "ran and the projection i-d-f all said with one person being killed a young girl that we understand. the question that has been out there is what might be proportionate so that we don't see further escalation. looking at the outcomes of the unfortunate attacks, that both happened on both sides as each side might call it, is this
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proportionate? is this close enough to that that we won't see further attacks? >> well, the united states thinks so. and i think our allies do. those in nato on the one hand, particularly great britain, who participated with us in defending israel, but also jordan and saudi arabia, who we already heard and we already know know no one is particularly interested in seeing a wider war. i think that coalition, that defended israel, all agree. there's a large swath of the public inside iran inside israel, they also agree. the question is whether or not netanyahu is in a very difficult domestic political situation. is going to agree. and that's why continued pressure from the united states will really make a difference in convincing those who make decisions inside israel, and not just netanyahu, those
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people who surround him. convince them that for the time being at least, things ought to be considered to be concluded now. we have to keep in mind that confrontation with iran does not just include what happened last night. it includes confrontation with iran's proxys and principle among them is hezbollah. now, hezbollah has continued to fire missiles at israel, is armed to the teeth and is the closest both tactical and strategic and ideological ally of iran. israel would be well advised, and everybody believes that the united states is advising israel, to focus their's tension
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their attention on defending the border and make sure the defenses are robust against hezbollah. that's where we are liable to see more action. >> 20 seconds, what time frame are you watching right now for what may or or may not be happening days weeks. >> maybe both. there may be initial responses, one hopes there are not. but the rhetoric on both sides, that needs to be monitored very, very closely. and that's where american intelligence assisting israeli intelligence will have the greatest impact. >> retired colonel jack thank you appreciate it. that's it for this hour of our special coverage. richard lui the weekend with alise yeah -- bins right now.
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