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>> welcome back to "the weekend." we're following the breaking news after iran launched the first attack on its soil on israel. israel and its allies were able to intercept the vast majority of the 300 project isles. there are major concerns of escalating conflict. today president biden is expected to meet with fellow leaders of the g7 to discuss a response. joining us now is tim kaine from virginia. he's also the author of the new
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book "walk, ride, paddle," a life outside. >> we're excited to talk about the book but first to the breaking news. our colleague andrea mitchell reporting in the last hour that president biden spoke last night with prime minister netanyahu, essentially saying take the win. we stand with israel. but if you retaliate, we won't have your back. what happens if netanyahu doesn't heed that call? >> boy, alicia, that would be troubling. i think what really has to happen is congress has to finally pass the supplemental bill that the senate passed two months ago. if we can do that, we can provide aid for israel and ukraine to defend itself against russia. the key is defense. we don't need israel going on more offense right now against iran. you know how tensions are already escalating with the huothis in the red sea and hezbollah and the tragedy in israel and gaza. the last thing we need is more escalation. we stood with israel to help
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them knock down the attacks from iranian soil on israel. now is the time for deescalation. that means getting to this hostage deal cease fire that will promote humanitarian aid and a deescalation in the region. >> senator, you've got the question of deescalation, but you also have the question of how the congress and particularly the senate will respond as well. in terms of what emphasis can be added to this idea of having netanyahu bring the temperature down. as the president said, take the win. what do you anticipate over the next few days over the leadership of your committee? from efforts in the house to sort of tighten that messaging, if you will, that the president is clearly wanting to put a stake in in terms of okay, no more.
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because the u.s. is not prepared to go on the offensive on behalf of israel. >> michael, good to see you again and thanks for the question. the timing is sort of right there before us. this bill that the senate passed in an overwhelming bipartisan way. it was 70-29 back in february. that bill is right on the floor ready for the house to act. and i think it's very important. this bill has defense aid for israel. defense aid for ukraine and humanitarian aid for gaza in this bill. so it's sitting right there. but it's just taken way too long. we started talking about the need to aid ukraine in september before the attack of october 7th. it's taken too long. my hope is the challenges of the weekend will promote action in the article one branch and some early signs i see suggest it will. will it be the action i want to see in the senate? who knows. tenths of the weekend make
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plain that congress can't windowel our thumbs. we got to get off the couch and take action. >> senator, we just had i was going to call him secretary meeks. congressman meeks on in our last hour. he noted the only bill, the only aid bill to take up is, in fact, the bill the senate passed. that would be the only piece of legislation that he would support. i expect we will hear similar things from other house democrats going forward. if house republicans do not heed that promise, if you will, from democrats such as congressman meeks, then what happens here? what happens if they do just put a bill on the floor that is israel aid only? how long then could it take for this to work its way through the process? >> symone, the senate is not going to accept an israel only bill. both of these challenges involve the u.s. defending democracies against illegal
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attacks by authortarian nations. ukraine and israel. in the senate, we have turned down an israel only bill in the past. not just democrats but republicans as well. because we believe these two challenges are linked. we're either going to stand with our allies or we're not. we're not going to pick between allies right now. the ukraine situation is getting more dire by the day. and it needs emergency attention and obviously israel needs to be able to defend itself from more attacks by iran if they should come. i can speak i think safely for my senate colleagues that an israel only bill will not pass. an israel ukraine is what we need to do, and we can do it. >> this is happening during a presidential election year. you have former president on the stump unsurprisingly making the argument this would be different if he was president of the united states. we agree on that. we disagree on what he means by it calling the current president weak on iran. how do you counter those
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incoming political attacks from republicans? >> well, look, president trump made the region dramatically less safe. his decision to tear up a diplomatic deal with iran next to the decision to invade iraq, those were the two things that ohm boldin them in the region. president trump made one of the most disastrous decisions and made the region less safe. i've got friends all over the region who point that out. sure, he'll go out and mouth out just like he's mouthing out being proud that he destroyed roe versus wade. americans are glad they have someone around him who is cautious and careful and isn't doing the tough work of diplomacy by whatever thought that crosses his mind at any
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time. >> i want to pick up on that point. it's an important one with the politics here and how that does play out in a very, very tightly contested presidential race. to that end, do you see some ground on which the democrats could leverage the speaker of the house, mike johnson, who is being battered and bruised by his caucus, specifically marjorie taylor green and others who are pressuring him to really break rank from the idea of not just helping israel, but not helping ukraine. how do you take advantage politically and leverage the speaker against the house and president trump, who clearly do not have the interests of global stability in mind? >> michael, you're asking me to do something i'm not so good at which is to predict house republican behavior. >> i thought i'd try.
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>> you know, here's the way i look at this. the house embarrassed itself badly when they threw over a speaker kevin mccarthy without a replacement. it took them a long time to find a replacement. i think they probably deep down know they can't usher a speaker out without a replacement. their margin is so narrow, i don't see anybody in the house republican caucus who could get the votes to be speaker right now. so, sure, speaker johnson doesn't want to have marjorie taylor green mouthing out about replacing them, but i have to believe he's confident internally, they can't do that. once you know they can't follow through on a noisy but empty threat, then do what's right. and you saw the speaker did that with respect to the authorization vote and respect to the two appropriations bills. he has to try it their way first. once it's plain they can't muscle votes because they're chaotic within, then he figures
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out okay, next step forward do the right thing. i think he's going to do that on this supplemental bill. >> we will be waiting with baited breath to see what house republicans decide they're going to move on monday night. senator, i want to go back to the aid package, if you will. the package that the senate sent over has aid to ukraine. has aid to israel, taiwan, humanitarian aid for the gaza strip. there is the world health organization, the un, they have all warned about what is happening in gaza. just the dire situation that the folks living there primarily children, are finding themselves in. on the brink of famine. what is your concern about how what happened last night and watching and waiting to see what prime minister netanyahu and the war cabinet decide to
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do today, how the gaza strip plays into all of this? the palestinian people who are there right now living under just terrible circumstances. >> symone, thank you for asking that question. one of the dangers of the back and forth between iran and israel is it takes people's attention off the humanitarian disaster in gaza. we have been working very hard to push. first privately and publicly, israel, to allow more humanitarian aid into gaza. there's no reason the u.s. should be air dropping supplies into gaza or sending people to build a pier. the right way is through the border crossings that israel is finally allowing to open. it took too long for them to open and agree to open the crossing. you do see since president biden's conversation two weeks back with prime minister netanyahu, a much greater commitment and a much greater
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pacing of humanitarian aid. now we need to see a hostage release. we need a hostage release and a cease fire. hamas appears they don't want to do the release. every time we get close, they back away and throws up a new obstacle. i have my inconstitution about what's going on. hopefully the globe will see the escalation of this weekend as we got to put pressure on hostage release for cease fire. more humanitarian aid into gaza and leading to deescalation and the opening of a discussion about palestinian atonmy. >> there's egypt and what about china. >> i think there's a security council meeting today about the iran israel back and forth and it will be interesting to see what the role russia and china
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play in it. will they act and in particular china does seem to have a desire for stability. they don't like chaos. russia sometimes is more willing to tolerate chaos than china. watch the security council meeting today, and i think we'll learn a lot. >> to say the least. i think china actually put out some statement over the last couple of hours. chinese officials echoing just that. the un security council meeting will be later on today. senator, what is your biggest concern for the next week? what most worries you as we look ahead to the next couple days? >> my immediate concern is i hope israel heeds president biden's advice and doesn't decide to further escalate the situation. i was so worried when israel took the strike in damascus. i believe they took the strike against people that had maybe had some planning role in
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october 7. i get those would be people that israel would want to go after. the timing seemed very, very unfortunate to me. we already have a raging brush fire. the houthis, hezbollah and israel took the strike knowing iran would respond. i hope prime minister netanyahu was listening to president bide and be decides the u.s. and others that helped israel defend itself that we want to thank them and part of appreciating the work we're doing to help israel defend themselves is not make it first. >> you referenced your intuition. >> i am slightly optimistic. slightly. >> slightly optimistic. we have some followup questions, senator kaine. we want to continue this conversation on the other side of the break. you are watching "the weekend."
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>> vice president harris tweeted after iran's attack quote, our support for israel's security is ironclad x we stand with the people of israel in defense of the people. is it time for the u.s. to reassess the stance? >> you know, senator, we talked about your book at the introof this. your book is called "walk, ride, paddle," a life outside. we just knew, we were like i'm sure there is something in this book that senator kaine has written that ties directly into the conversations we're having right now. it's so true. i'm going to put this quote up on the screen. the quote says he taught it so well. indifference to evil is worse than evil itself. in a free society, some are guilty, but all are responsible. it's the bystanders in life who
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drive me nuts. before we went to break, alicia asked you about your gauge about what prime minister netanyahu would do, and all morning, all last night, folks have talked in the aftermath of the attack about the need for restraint. about the region. stability. about a two state solution for palestine, for the palestinians and the israel people. prime minister netanyahu has been clear that he doesn't believe in a two state solution. i just wonder what you think. in a free society some are guilty but all are responsible. all are responsible here. there's a responsibility of the prime minister. especially to ensure calm, cooler heads prevail. >> well, there's responsibility on all of us. congress has a responsibility. the political leadership in israel does as well. more escalation now is not going to lead to a positive.
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it's going to lead to things getting worse. and you know, symone, i came into the senate in 2013. i'm on the armed services and foreign relations committee. i've seen the devastating consequences. i'm absolutely convinced that we need to keep the u.s. out of unnecessary war in the region. we need to. so my first priority is to americans and the safety of americans. with a lot of virginiaens serving in the military, my main goal is i'm looking at all of this is deescalate to protect americans and to avoid us at all possible getting pushed into another war in the region. >> you warned this is not a political book. this is your life getting outside and being in the mountains. i loved all of those parts and fundamentally about community in a moment where people are feeling lonely and disconnected. way too attached to our devices
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and among that community that shows up for you in the aftermath of the election is senator john mccain. he's the first person to sort of knock on your door and say welcome back. what is it he tells you? >> hillary and i conceded and the senate was not in session. i'm back in my office monday at 7:30. my office was john mccain's office for 25 years. he moved around the corner to take john kerry's office. i'm there at 7:30. i hear this pounding at my door. i go and open and it there's my armed service committee john mccain. he said listen, this is november 2016. you and i are the only people here who know this feeling, been on a national ticket and lost. i'm going to tell you, the thing you got to do is go right back to work. i said you found me here at 7:30 on a monday. i'm going to keep checking up on you. now give me hillary's number
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because he wanted to call her. mccain kind of over the course over the next year or so, he would say something to me or kind of argue with me a little bit. it was all about hey, are you sticking to the work? of course sometimes that's the best therapy there is. just go right back to work. the work got important after donald trump become president. >> that's what struck me. his argument to the u.s. senate had never been more important in that moment. >> yeah. absolutely. he very much said that. i felt that. when we saved the affordable care act by one vote and 30 million people were going to lose their health insurance and i realized what if i never ran for the senate? mccain said i'm with you guys. and that started the longest 15 minutes of my life as we clicked down the clock and the president and the vice president and everybody tried to convince him to go the other way. i knew even though he was voting against us, he isn't
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coming out of a hospital being surrounded by people who are fighting for their lives, he's not coming out of the hospital and voting to take health insurance away from people. i've been part of three big votes. where it was just one vote. what i realized is sometimes all it takes is one person to stand up and try and do the right thing. that motivates me. the other thing about the nature trip that was important, we're really polarized but not in everything. along the appalachian trail, i ran along people who didn't know i was going to be there. we're all appreciating the beauty of the outdoors. we probably stood folks next to people watching the eclipse and politics weren't important. there are things to unify us. it's not to sugar coat the thing that is divide us. it's important to remember there are things that unify us. >> senator tim kaine, the new book is called "walk, ride,
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it's a little bit like watching onions on toast. right? it's hard enough to make you cry. the reality of it -- i'm serious. there's a process here. a lot of people think this is going to be play-by-play blow by blow and learn all this stuff about the jurors. walk us through this. >> the approach for me was to build credibility and start showing my theme and theory for the case. that headline was right. you can't win but you can definitely lose a trial. the questionnaires will make it more streamline in a way you can collect information and get data points on jurors to know who you want to fight for and who you want to have kicked off the jury. i think the media one was the most interesting one. where do you stay informed? how do you get your current events. where do you watch the news? for example, if i see somebody
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watches "the weekend," no, i can't strike them but maybe that's a witness i want to rehabilitate them. who do i go after for trying to get kicked off for cause, which means you can't be impartial or look i heard you just say this. if the judge gives you instructions will you be able to follow the instructions? >> there's one aspect of what you said that's important that i know is in the back of everybody's mind. everybody is looking for that juror who is a plant. who is planting themselves. who has an undermining intent. how do you get that out? how do you figure out this jury wants to be on to acquit or convict? >> it's no real one approach. it's a holistic analysis. how eager they are to answer questions. if it's too scripted. you have jury consultants
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looking at every nervous tick of the juror. that's going to come down to the types of questions you can sus out whether someone is trying to get on for other motives. it's a gut feeling. >> kristy, i know you have also done this before. the jurors, as we noted are getting a questionnaire with 42 questions. again, it digs into how right leaning or left leaning the jurors could be for lack of a better term. when do they answer these questions, and set the scene for us. there are upwards of more than 400 people that are going to go down to the courthouse on monday and some of them may know what they're going. others may not know. that starts the process. >> yeah. so they're going to be smaller groups. you're not going to get all 100 people at a time. it's smaller groups of people asked the questions and run through them.
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before anything happens, anyone who says they don't want to be seated is going to be removed because the judge is saying let's get those people out of the way and deal with the people who can be fair and impartial and willing to sit and we'll go from there. i agree with marcus. you're looking for things like political bias or people who have distrust of law enforcement. are people potentially think prosecutors abuse their power? have issues with law enforcement and the justice system? you're looking for people who have not been able, who have sat on a jury before and not been able to return to a verdict. those are the people who like the john mcclains of the jury. he referred to himself as the fly in the ointment, the monkey in the wrench. the pain in the, you know. he would always stand out and be your problem. so you want to try and figure out who are those people going to be and get rid of them, if you're the prosecution. if you're the defense you're looking for those people and
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want to make sure they're seated. it's unlikely you'll get an acquittal, but you could get a mistrial. you could get a juror who are not going to buy what the prosecutors are selling. that's the focus of both sides. >> marcus, we know the former president wants to turn the courthouse into a campaign stop. how does that complicate things for prosecutors? does it complicate things for prosecutor this is. >> i think as a prosecutor your sole thing is to build credibility with yourself with the jury. you might turn the former president sitting in the courtroom into a positive. maybe i want to show that look, we're here to make sure everyone is accountable to the law, even if you're a former president. a lot of americans think we have a two tier justice system where ceo's and people that are powerful don't have to follow the laws that people like me
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and you do. maybe that's a theme i'm trying to build in the courthouse and i can point to exhibit a, donald trump as i'm doing that. it's about the showman ship of building credibility for your theme and theory and an accountability of the law. even if you're a former president. it's up to you 12 jurors to make sure he's held to the same standard that you would also be held to. >> can i just play what we had michael cohen on yesterday, and he had a lot of different thinges to say about this particular trial. he said this about jury selection in this trial. i want to play this and get your thoughts on the other side. >> i think the american people, for at least the first week, maybe two, i'm still a believer that it's going to be three weeks and everybody said no way. watch. watch what todd blanch and susan necklace do. >> kristy, do you agree or disagree with michael cohen? do you think it could stretch
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out to three weeks? just selecting the jury? >> i think it's really hard to say until you get moving along. i think the judge has shown leading up to this process he has no tolerance for trump team's defense and delay tactics here. he is going to look for an orderly process to move things along. if they're delaying for any inproper purpose, expect the prosecutors to call him out and the judge to have no tolerance for it. again, we're going through a lot of jurors. this is going to take some time. i don't think it'll be day. it'll extend at least into the second week. >> i think that for me, there's an important element to all of this. it really goes to the point symone raised about this idea of how the evidence will be presented. what the jury selection prosays does. does that play out. all of that for me is the drama of this, which is right up
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donald trump's alley. marcus, do you think with that in mind, looking at how his attorneys are approaching this. they are approaching this from the standpoint of we're not going to win this. they're playing for the mistrial here. am i misreading at how they're looking at the evidence stacked against the president that we know of at least right now and as was just noted the strategy of kind of trying to build the system up, break it down, reshape it and the judge is like i'm not going to play that game. the end game is really the mistrial. >> i agree with you. i think that's a classic defense tactic, if we're being honest. as a prosecutor you want to show a streamlined presentation of evidence. you want to show witness a, b, c, d and make sure those exhibits line up perfectly with those exhibits. as a defense counsel, i want the jury to become fixated on an issue that has nothing to do with the overall theory and
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hopefully i can taint the prosecutor's case by having you focus on the side show. we'll see throwing spaghetti on the wall to which one will agree. i harp on the cross issue and through the closing argument and hopes i can get a hung jury with the one or two independent thinkers. >> kristy, marcus, stick around. we're going to continue this conversation after a quick break. there's a lot more to get into. you're watching "the weekend." , or t-e-d, which may need a different doctor. find a t-e-d eye specialist at isitted.com. this isn't charmin! no wonder i don't feel as clean. here's charmin ultra strong. ahhh! my bottom's been saved! with its diamond weave texture, charmin ultra strong cleans
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successful. >> that was trump's former personal attorney, michael cohen with us yesterday here on "the weekend." he's one of the potential star witnesses expected to testify in the criminal hush money trial. he's one of the people donald trump just last night attacked online calling cohen a disgraced attorney and felony. kristy greenberg and marcus are back with us. >> donald trump is posting these things online and anyone can see it, including some of the potential jurors. kristy, during jury selection, it's our understanding this 42 questionnaire is going to be used to select 18 jurors. 12 of which will be seated and then they'll be 6 alternates. is the questionnaire, is some of it written? or they asked in the court proceedings tomorrow? how does this really shake down in terms of asking the questions? we also have, i want to note, at least a couple of the questions, we have some of them already. a couple of the questions are
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specific about donald trump and extreme groups. are you signed up or subscribed to or followed a newsletter, e- mail run by on behalf of the trump organization? there's at least a specific question related to michael cohen about asking if anyone has read or listened to any of the books or podcasts by michael cohen or mark pomarance and they can select which they've heard or listened to. how do they get the answers to the questions? >> i believe the answers of the questions will be verbal. this will be oral. you'll go through the questions with each person. i don't believe they'll be writing them down. i believe they'll be asked in court by the judge. because it also allows prosecutors and the defense to have some followup questions. and so again, these 42 questions, you'll go through one by one, which is why it's going to take as long as we
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expect. which will be roughly two weeks. >> we had michael cohen on, again, yesterday. one of the things that we talked about was the possibility that trump might take the stand and testify. one of the big questions going into the next few weeks. i want you to take a listen, marcus, to what cohen said. >> the likelihood of donald trump being on the stand is equal to the likelihood of me waking up tomorrow 7-foot 6 and playing center for the new york knicks. it's not going to happen. how many times have we heard the same story again and again and again that i want to testify. absolutely i'm going to. i'm going to tell the truth. the one thing that every time donald opens his mouth, you know something nontruthful is coming out of it. he is not a good witness. he is not going to take the stand. in fact, i hope that i'm wrong. because i think that would be absolutely classic for america to be able to see donald trump
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on the witness stand trying to defend himself in a case that is indefensible. >> i mean, marcus, call me crazy. i can't imagine an attorney in the united states who thinks ifs a good idea to put that type of wild card on the stand. especially given the question of intent is really what prosecutors are trying to drive at here. your thoughts on whether or not donald trump should take the stand. >> look, a lot of attorneys may not agree with donald trump taking the stand. if i'm a prosecutor on the case, i'm praying and wishing that he does. because there are so many public statements, and as michael cohen just said, donald trump's ability to tell the truth is so well documented that that cross-examination could last as long as voidere. i don't think the chances of donald trump taking the stand are very high. if i'm a prosecutor in this
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case, i am hoping and praying he does so that i can show the world exactly his character for truthfulness and impeach everything he just said. >> kristy, one other aspect of this that i think is going to be fascinating as you have the jury selection process unfolding, donald trump, as we noted on "the weekend" for a long time now, has been using this opportunity, these court scenarios and now this upcoming trial as his platform. no different than a campaign stop. in many respects. he was put up on truth social regarding this trial. just yesterday he said quote there is no way i can be given a fair biden trial on monday with judge juan who is totally conflicted and corrupt. presiding. he backed alvin brig who has
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let violent crime flourish in new york. never wanted to bring this case because it's a shame and he brought it anyway. i said a long time ago, this man should be just have his behind put in jail and stop this kind of foolishness. but the system said no, we just going to let him stay out and do more of this. to, to me, are poison pills in this process. and i think it has some taint potential on the jury selection. it certainly has had some taint on how the public viewing this. how do you, if you're the prosecutor, get control of this and be able to present a case that the public really understands. not just the consequences but the merits. why this case is important. everyone wants to dismiss this particular case because it involves sex and money. but this is really not about
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sex and money. this is about election interference. this is about something that is a felony. a federal case. make that case, if you would, if you're the prosecutor for us. >> i'm so glad you mentioned that because so many people have said well, this case is not serious. the charges aren't serious. there are. there are 34 felonies. not just for the falsification of business records. that's a misdemeanor. but the falsification of business records was done in order to conceal the unlawful agreement to influence the outcome of the election. i mean, we can remember back to 2016 how close this election was. and out there when donald trump is chanting lock her up about hillary, what he's doing is paying stormy to try and shut her up. right? so he was, like this mattered. and who was defrauded? the american people were defrauded. the voting public was defrauded from information that would have been useful in making their decision about who to
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vote for. so i think this is going to be, we're going to take a trip back in time to 2016 and really try to understand why what he did, why this catch and kill scheme. why keeping this information from the public mattered. that's what the prosecutors are going to focus on. not just for the jury but also for the american people. >> michael, if it was donald johnson we were talking about and donald trump, he would not be on his social media site posting. he would be in contempt in a jail cell. >> absolutely he would. pass the plate on this one. thank you very much for being with us. next, we'll have a live update from jerusalem right here on "the weekend." known for being a free spirit. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be.
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iran's attack without thinking through the possible fallout. especially given how the war escalated in gaza. nbc news chief correspondent richard engel is live in jerusalem. >> your assessment for netanyahu's appetite for engagement with iran? >> so, there's a security cabinet going on right now. and the general thinking here in israel and across the region is that for the moment israel is not going to respond militarily because the drones and the missiles were shot down and the few that did make it through the air defenses caused little damage. but the key factor here, the key unknown is prime minister benjamin netanyahu himself. you mentioned some u.s. officials are concerned about the, how he makes his decisions and how much thought he puts into these kinds of decisions and what his priorities are.
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i've been speaking all morning, since yesterday as well, as this attack looked imminent with officials across the region. and they were, and i think it's striking, much more concerned about netanyahu escalating this and taking it to the next level than they were about iran pursuing this even further. iran yesterday said this is a one and done action. iran stressed that again this morning while celebrating its largely failed response to an israeli attack on a diplomatic facility two weeks ago. a tremendous amount of concern that netanyahu might use this as an opportunity to pursue a war with iran that he has wanted to do for a long time. we know from interviews that have been given by former officials, former officials who worked with prime minister netanyahu that military action against iran is something that
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he has long been striving for. it's something the u.s., different administrations going back to president bush following 911. something that israel, netanyahu has wanted but that the u.s. has been trying to avoid. now the question is will this opportunity, this crisis here lead to that. it doesn't seem like it, but we don't know because of the netanyahu factor. that's the mood that i'm getting both in israel and around the region. >> richard, very quickly, what is the, what are you picking up or hearing from others in the region? jordan, egypt, saudi, how are they assessing the situation here and the potential consequences to them and the region? >> again, it's a very volatile situation, and there was a statement earlier today from
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the uae, saudi arabia and qatar, all calling for restraint. they didn't want this to escalate. they didn't want this to escalate several days ago as it looked like it was coming. they didn't know what kind of attack that iran would carry out in response. we've been following this. it looked like, this attack seemed like it was coming over the last two weeks, and i've been speaking with regional diplomats, u.s. military officials trying to game out what might happen. there was a concern that iran might blow up an israeli diplomatic facility somewhere outside the region. maybe they would attack a jewish cultural center or use hezbollah to bomb an ohm bassy. potentially an american diplomatic facility. there were many scenarios discussed and i was involved in some of these conversations. what is iran's response going to be? once it became clear it was
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this slow motion response with iran launching missiles and drones in waves, launching them from iranian territory so they would have to travel several hours across multiple countries making it quite easy for them to be shot down. once that kind of attack was clear, it was clear for many people in the region that iran did not want this to escalate quickly into a direct full war between iran and israel. potentially iran and israel and the united states. >> all right. richard engel, thank you very, very much, friend. we got another hour of "the weekend" straight ahead. we'll speak with evelyn farkas and jeremy bash about the reporting you heard from richard engel. we'll talk with congressman jason you. a house of the member of foreign affairs committee. that's coming up on "the weekend."
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