tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC April 17, 2024 7:00pm-8:01pm PDT
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confuse people and to be clear, some of the confusion is actually harming patients, because all of these kind of dueling laws and which one is in effect have actually prevented people from getting abortions in arizona, even when it's legal and allowed. as real-life consequences but the politics of it, there's no reason to think that arizona is going to be tremendously different from many of these red states where when the democratic process at the supreme court said they wanted to allow in dobbs, actually happens, voters are going to say, actually, we want abortion to be legal and safe and accessible. >> thank you for your great reporting on this, i appreciate your time tonight. that's our show for tonight, now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell, good evening, lawrence. >> we have andrew wiseman joining us tonight and adam who used to work in the attorney general's office in new york
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state. both have much to teach us about the status of defending trump tonight. >> candidate defendant, i'll be watching. >> thank you, alex. raking news about defendant trump at this hour, he appears to have violated the judge's gag order on mentions and attacks of jurors in this case. on donald trump social media website tonight, donald trump reposted something posted by the eight p.m. host on fox, jesse waters, jesse waters says, they are catching undercover liberal activists lying to the judge in order to get on the trump jury and there's donald trump, himself, posting that on social media tonight, posting it for the jurors in his case to see, calling them liberal activists
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and liars, donald trump, calling his jurors, who have already been seated, liars, because what jesse waters is referring to there are the jurors, the seven, who have already been officially seated on that jury. that's who he's referring to and he saying that they have lied their way onto the jury. donald trump is endorsing that, those words are the same as donald trump writing them himself, that was donald trump's choice to violate his gag order tonight, possibly in the very worst way in fact, definitely in the worst way, he has violated this gag order so far. this is a severe test now of what the judge is prepared to do with donald trump violating the gag order in the worst possible way by attacking specifically attacking these seven jurors, already seated in this case. judge merchan has already
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tolerated which is to say, not acted yet on the claims by the district attorney that donald trump has violated the gag order in other ways, but this is by far, by far, the most severe way donald trump can violate that gag order, by going after the jurors in his case. this is by donald trump, by any interpretation, juror intimidation. this is specifically aimed at intimidating the seven people already seated on the jury and anyone else who might be seated on the jury, that when you are seated on donald trump's jury, you will be attacked, you will be publicly attacked, by donald trump and his allies in the news media. this is the challenge that judge merchan will have to deal with immediately in this case. he has paused his timing on
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hearing the question of violations of the gag order already, but this one, with jury selection in process, ready to resume tomorrow morning, this one, it seems impossible to see how the judge can wait on that. we will discuss that in a moment with andrew wiseman. it's always important to remember, something about donald trump, and the way he lies, because no one proves just how much donald trump flies better than donald trump, and he did that again today. and this time, he proved that his lawyers are liars, too. donald trump has claimed repeatedly that the manhattan criminal trial that he must now attend has kept him from campaigning for president. his lawyers have falsely represented the same thing, publicly. judge merchan said, at the outset , there would be no
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wednesday session in the criminal trial of donald trump so donald trump knew all along there would be no session today and today, when donald trump had no obligation in court anywhere in the country, donald trump did absolutely nothing . the crucial state of pennsylvania is an hour away from donald trump's manhattan apartment, at trump motorcade speed. president trump, president biden was campaigning, once again today in pennsylvania but donald trump did nothing. nothing. no campaigning at all, i need to be donald trump spent the day napping in a more comfortable chair in the courtroom chair that he has reportedly managed to doze off in this week. donald trump's criminal defense lawyers spent the day pondering once again, what a catastrophe it would be if donald trump attempted to testify in his own defense because today, the district attorney bragg and his team of prosecutors in a required filing in the case,
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revealed all of the issues that they would use to attack donald trump's credibility in cross- examination on the witness stand if donald trump testifies. they noticed, was submitted to judge merchan, the people hereby disclose a list of all the misconduct and criminal acts of the defendant not charged in the indictment which the people intend to use at trial to impeach the ground bitterly of the defendant, if the defendant choose to testify, the people intend to inquire regarding the following, the first item on the notice, was the case won by attorney general james against trump in which he is now ordered to pay $354 million judgment, the district attorney described the casas way, quote, defendant repeatedly and persistently falsified business conspired to falsified business records, financial statements, conspired to issue false financial statements and conspired to commit insurance
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fraud misstating the value of his assets for economic benefit including the trump tower triplex by overstating its square footage by nearly 3 times. now, every member of that manhattan jury knows either exactly or almost exactly how many square feet their apartment is, none of them could overestimate the size of their manhattan apartments by three times. no juror with a studio apartment things that they live in a three-bedroom apartment. those facts, used against donald trump on the witness stand would be devastating. but the district attorney would present more and cross- examining donald trump and attacking his credibility, quote, defendant testified untruthfully under oath when he claimed that his public comments about a judge's law clerk instead about a witness.
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court held as the trier of fact, i find trump's testimony rings hollow and untrue. defendant intentionally violated court order by making public attacks on a judge's law clerk despite two prior court orders not to do so. court find defendant $10,000, defendant committed repeated and persistent fraud in the transaction of business by fraudulently misstating the value of his assets. all of that is just from that one case that the attorney general won against trump and of course the district attorney intends to use both of the e. jean carroll cases against trump if trump takes the witness stand. if donald trump testifies in the case, the district attorney would refer to the e. jean carroll cases in cross- examination this way. quote, jury awarded e. jean carroll $83 million in compensatory and punitive damages for defamatory
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statements defendant made about her. defendant sexually abused e. jean carroll and jury awarded the plaintiff $2,020,000 and compensatory and punitive damages on her sexual abuse claim. the district attorney will also use a finding in a lawsuit that donald trump filed against hillary clinton quote, court sanctioned the defendant and ordered him to pay $937,989 in fees for filing a frivolous, bad faith lawsuit. the court held, quote, he is the mastermind of strategic abuse of the judicial process and he cannot be seen as a litigant blindly following the advice of a lawyer. the district attorney would also use the criminal conviction of the trump business, people versus the trump corporation. quote trump corporation and trump payroll corp. convicted of 17 felony counts of scheming to defraud, conspiracy, ml tax fraud and
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falsifying this is records in connection with a scheme to pay unreported non-cash compensation to top executives including alan weisselberg and the district attorney would use another civil case against trump, one, by attorney general james, quote, defendant illegally allowed his 2016 presidential campaign to orchestrate a fundraiser for the donald j trump foundation direct distribution of the funds and use the fundraiser and distribution of the funds to further defendant's political campaign. court order defendant to pay $2 million for reach of fiduciary duty and waste defendant stipulated to the dissolution of the donald j trump foundation to resolve claims by the new york attorney general to reach fiduciary duty and waste failure to properly administer charitable assets improper political activity and repeated and willful self
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dealing transactions. donald trump's lawyers will surely oppose everyone of these cases being brought up at trial. judge merchan will hold a hearing on this issue after jury selection is complete, the hearing could occur as early as friday. donald trump is by far, the stupidest republican presidential nominee in history but he thinks and in many cases he may be right about this, that his voters are stupider than he is, and that's why he complained today about only having 10 preemptory challenges to use against potential jurors in the jury selection process. the trump defense and the prosecution each have already used six of their 10 challenges with seven jurors seated in the case with initial five jurors necessary to complete the 12 person jury +6 alternates yet to be chosen. today, on social media, donald trump said, i thought strikes were supposed to be unlimited,
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when we are picking our jury. i was then told we only had 10, not nearly enough. donald trump's lawyers have known or should have known, from the day donald trump got indicted a year ago that for the crimes he starts with, every defendant in the state of new york and every prosecutor gets 10 preemptory challenges. 10. if donald trump went out on fifth avenue and shot someone and murdered that person, then he would get 20 preemptory challenges for a class a felony, 20. there is no place in america where any defendant gets an unlimited number of peremptory challenges. that doesn't exist but donald trump believes that his voters are to relentlessly a minute to know that. the trump voters who do know that, are all of the trump voters who have been criminally charged for their attack on the
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capitol on january 6th, they learned that the hard way. there are places that you would get less than 10 challenges, many places. the state of arizona, in its infinite wisdom under the control of the republican state legislature is the only state that has decided to give criminal defendants like donald trump exactly zero peremptory challenges, leading up our discussion is andrew wiseman former chief of the criminal division in the eastern division of new york and he's co-author of the new york times best-selling book, the trump indictments, the store charging documents with commentary and also with us adam former assistant attorney general for the state of new york and somewhere around the corner is adams eighth grade daughter, madeline, who's here on take your daughter to work night. so great to have her here. i want to go straight to this trump attack on the jurors in his case, him quoting on social media, they are catching
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undercover liberal activist, lying to the judge in order to get on the trump jury. this looks like a very sharp challenge for judge merchan in enforcing his gag order about jurors. >> yeah, so, let me just fill you in on march 26th of this year, judge merchan issued an order to the parties and the relevant part and i will read it, it says the following, quote, donald trump and any party are prohibited from doing the following, making or directing others to make public statements about any prospective juror or any juror in this criminal proceeding. so, it's very hard to see why donald trump isn't really aching on the judge to say i am now in contempt you know, for
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whatever political purposes he may be doing that, he's clearly asking for it and i think that it's incumbent on the judge to treat him like any other party. as i've said repeatedly, it's the road to hell to not treat him like everyone else and it's hard to see the defense that will be made. i will not be surprised at all if the district attorney revises their pending motion to encompass this. and i think the judge will certainly want to give an opportunity for the defense to be heard, that it's required by due process. but it's very hard to see why they will not be sanctioned for this conduct. >> the judge already has a motion pending from the district attorney about comments that donald trump made about witnesses, michael cohen, witnesses who have been talked about publicly a lot by a lot of people. the judge didn't exactly race
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to protect michael cohen in that situation. jurors are a whole different status in this situation. this seems like a matter that judge merchan will have to deal with on an emergency basis. >> i think that's right. i think we already saw already in the trial this week him reprimanding former president trump for talking around in the presence of a juror, he was already holding him to task. i think he will go directly to this and weed out the punishment, if necessary. >> it goes to this question of the schmidt and i know that all these judges in the back of their minds are facing something like this and this is the worst one we've seen by far, this is worse than anything we've seen in washington, d.c., this is specifically seven people that he's talking about lying there. there's the issue of what can you do? a former president who has
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secret service detection mandated by law, there's nothing anyone can do to remove the protection, joe biden can't order it away, it's mandated by law, the idea that a local judge in manhattan could send donald trump to rikers island jail, with a secret service delegation of a couple of dozen , 24 hours a day for whatever period of time we are talking about, that would be several shifts of secret service agents, that would require a hearing where the secret service is testifying about can they protect him there, they will testify that they don't know how to do that, never having done anything like it. i know the judge is just envisioning unlike any other defendant i could be dealing with, putting this person in jail has logistical and practical challenges that may be beyond their capacity. which then i suppose it could open a question like, do you give him home confinement as an
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alternative to that and in that case, make the secret service in effect be his jailers as well as his protectors? >> i hate to sound like a hardened former prosecutor but that plea falls on deaf ears to me. there are places in jails that somebody can be kept very safe. put him in a cell, with no one else in the cell. no one else is going to get to him, if you are concerned about sort of the reason secret service is there, it's so that there isn't some, you know, crazy person who's going to take it upon themselves to take a shot at some public figure or former public figure and that is something that is less of a concern in various places that are in federal and state prisons. there's also ways to put
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somebody in lockup for a temporary period of time in the courthouse. but remember, the first step i think is finds that her one of the mandated sanctions, and a second step can be jail, up to 30 days, for any single violation, if you have multiple violations, there are already three alleged violations, this would be a fourth, it could be 30 days and 30 days and 30 days and 30 days, i usually don't do math in public but i think that comes to 120, and you don't have to go to the maximum at first, but you can easily, and the term of artist, step him back and so, he spends some time, like a child, in timeout. secret service is something that i think people put far too
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much weight on, as something that means that somebody, just because they have service detection can't do jail time. in this country, no one is above the law and if it is determined that jail is appropriate, then secret service will have to just figure it out as part of the rule of law in this country. >> one of the reasons i mentioned secret service, in this very courtroom judge merchan, when the question arose of donald trump joining the sidebars, he was very concerned about that because secret service agents would have to accompany donald trump to the sidebars which i submit is utterly ridiculous, but that is how cowed most people are including judges, by the secret service, the courtroom could not possibly be safer. there already secret service agents there, the idea that trump is going to move from his chair over to hear and somehow by being surrounded by lawyers,
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is in danger, it's just one of those indicators of just how cowed by the notion of presidential protection delegations judges and other people can be. but as we go forward here, it seems this is really the crucial moment for judge merchan and it seems like donald trump is trying to find the line, trying to find the spot where i can either prove to you that you cannot put me in jail, you won't dare put me in jail and i'll prove it to you or the other side of the trump crazy coin, you will put me in jail and i will somehow have some martyr status because of it. >> i think these are great observations about the secret service. the new york state courtrooms are safe. they've been made save, there's multiple layers of security, he can move around the courtroom safely. it's a great point. and as andrew wiseman just said, there can be multiple levels of punishment, of contempt, to get him to a point where he stopped doing this
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without getting to these fears that you just mentioned, if the judge wants to start with a fine, if he wants to start with home detention, he can take steps to ensure that trump is complying with his orders. >> we will squeeze in a quick break and will be back on this breaking news about donald trump's very clear violation of the judge's gag order and other matters for defendant trump. we will be right back. right ba.
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we are back. and just to restate the breaking news of the night at this hour, donald trump has violated a court order and a gag order on him about mentioning anything about the jurors in his criminal trial, tonight on social media. he posted something written by jesse waters, the 8:00 host on fox, these are lies about the jury, and it says, donald trump
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posted this himself, it says, they are catching undercover april activist, lying to the judge in order to get on the trump jury. that is a slanderous lie by the slander headquarters at fox news we have already been found to be corporate and public liars in the form to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars that they bad to pay because of that, this is another case of that by jesse waters, lying about the seven jurors already seated in this case. donald trump adopted that line, put it on his social media, violated the judges order in the case for all parties to never say anything about juries and violated the specific gag order on donald trump and andrew wiseman, what are you expecting now, tomorrow morning, when judge merchan gavels this case back into the process of jury selection. do
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you expect to hear about this as the first item of business tomorrow? >> yes. quickly, let me just point out, that the fact of the statements being lies were truthful, is irrelevant to the issue. just to be clear, the gag order, the order from judge merchan was not making any public statements, so even if they were truthful, it would be a violation, this is basically, the gag order is, do not speak about any juror or prospective juror, and that's why this is something that is very clean and clear for the judge to respond. what i expect to happen, i think the da will clearly raises, i think the judge will say i will deal with the issue of what the punishment is after i hear from both parties. but in the interim, i am
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telling you, this is stopping immediately. i can also see him ordering that this post be taken down immediately. and then he will impose the requirements of due process to hear from both sides as to why this is or is not a violation of the order. but i think judges are particularly sensitive to issues involving civilian jurors, in my experience, that is sort of a line that just cannot be crossed. it's hard for me to imagine that judge merchan right now is not livid, and i think at the very least, it'll be the first thing that comes up tomorrow in my view. >> adam, turns out the work of the attorney general in the civil matters against donald trump, has now become relevant to this case. here, you see the district attorney saying if donald trump takes the witness stand and
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this is a filing they are required to file, if you take the witness stand, what might we want to use from other cases, to attack his credibility? they have presented all of the work of the attorney general, showing all of this and it's about fraudulent this is records, which is what this case is about, the payoff is about fraudulent this is records. >> the list that you read earlier, the list that came from the district attorney's office is a long list, he has done a lot of prior bad act, that the government, that the prosecution can use to impeach his credibility, should he choose to testify in this case. >> andrew, of that list, what do you expect the judge would actually allow? i want to insert the parentheses here, donald trump is never going to take the
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witness stand in this case, and one of the reasons we know that is everything we are seeing on this list. however, the judge still has to make a ruling ahead of time for the defendant, if you do take the witness stand, i am going to allow them to bring up the e. jean carroll case or to bring up what you did to the clerk in the other case or to bring up the attorney general's case. will all of these survive as the district attorney wants them to, as possible avenues of attack of donald trump if he took the witness stand? >> i'm sure donald trump well use whatever is allowed by the judge as cross-examination material as an excuse to say well, because the judge is allowing this, now i'm not going to testify. he is never going to testify. it is really going to be the end of the road for him in this case. the prosecutors here are far too good and have way too much ammunition for that to ever be
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a successful strategy, and defense attorneys know that. and so maybe he will do something incredibly foolish but i doubt it. with respect to the list of items, it's worth noting that the state here is seeking two things. it saying that it's entitled to bring out some of the information, not all but some of it, regardless of whether donald trump testifies or not, and in the alternative says, to the extent that you think some of this can't come in, regardless of whether he testifies, some of it should be allowed as cross-examination material, if he testifies. so there are two separate issues for the judge. i don't think all of it will come in but you know, there is so much cross-examination material. as you know, lawrence, from covering donald trump or his entire presidency, all of the
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lies that he has told during the presidency are also fodder for the cross-examination. so i don't think the judge will allow all of it, but this is one where there is an unfortunately, it's a sad state of affairs, there is an embarrassment of riches here. >> yeah, adam, on the bond that donald trump has apparently posted in the attorney general's case, the trump lawyers filed an explanation of the bond late last night. what do you see in the bond, what questions does it raise? >> the first question that raises is why is it 114 pages of material when a bond written by license insurer should be four pages so immediately you wonder what is going on in here. >> and one of the possibilities
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is that the collateral that the bondholder says he has from donald trump, $175 million of so-called cash, there's a possibility that donald trump has pledged that money in other directions. >> so, this question is certainly raised. there's a schwab account that apparently has a $175 million in it presently and notes that they didn't redact the account number from the public internet filing, this moment it has $175 million in it and the question is, given that trump and trump's businesses are in business with this insurer, and with others, where else has this schwab account been pledged why is it still in his control as opposed to being deposited. there are a lot of questions being raised here. >> there will be a hearing next
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week and we will get into the details then. >> thank you very much for joining us in this discussion tonight. coming up, we have a winner, for the stupidest move of the year on the senate floor, the move that short- circuited the attempted impeachment proceeding of a biden cabinet official today, that is next. >> singe safelit pair, safelite replace. ♪ okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. (♪♪) ♪(voya)♪ there are some things that work better together. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. voya helps you choose the right amounts without over or under investing. so you can feel confident in your financial choices voya, well planned, well invested, well protected.
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impeachment proceeding in history today thanks to the rank incompetence of republican freshman senator eric schmidt of missouri. he decided to object to a unanimous consent agreement requested by chuck schumer, about how to proceed with the impeachment proceedings, something the leaders always do with every proceeding, the rules are always different for every impeachment proceeding, and eric schmidt decided he had a smarter idea and so he refused to agree to the unanimous consent request by senator schumer whereupon senator schumer said okay, then let's just vote to dismiss the whole case right now. which is essentially what they did, after going through a few procedural votes on the senate floor, thrown up there desperately and helplessly by other republicans like eric schmidt, the whole thing took a few hours. that was the end of it, there was no debate, schumer was offering the republicans hours of debate and all that was cut
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off by the idiocy of republican senator eric schmidt, a freshman who had no idea what he was doing on the senate floor today. and so, the senate voted along party lines and a motion to dismiss and close the book on the single most absurd impeachment case ever sent to the united states senate, the impeachment of homeland security secretary mayorkas, that's all over. meanwhile, the house of representatives, the vote is not yet scheduled on a series of bills introduced to fund urgent aid for ukraine and israel. >> the time has come for the house of representatives to act and act decisively in america's national security interests. this was a churchill or
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chamberlain moment. we can either confront russian aggression in defense of democracy or, we can allow the pro-putin extreme maga republicans to appease it. >> joined the discussion now is congressman daniel goldman, he's a fame or -- former member of the house majority counsel for the first impeachment investigation of donald trump. thank you very much for joining us tonight, i know in your own experience and i can imagine how absurd it was to watch what was going on chuck schumer got that impeachment material today, look at it, said to the senate, this is unconstitutional. it does not present even referred to in the slightest, any crime or misdemeanor of any kind and so, he went for the motion to dismiss and of course, it was gone as quickly
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as we all expected it to be when the republicans in the house were working on it. >> it's a fitting end to what is a shameful simple moment in the history of the house of representatives. even if you accept the allegations in the articles of impeachment, they do not rise to a level of any crime or misdemeanor much less a high crime and misdemeanor and of course, there is no evidence to support the allegations that they have, so the only proper outcome was not to legitimize this clearly partisan political effort to help donald trump by putting an impeachment on someone other than donald trump and that's all this was about, as the secretary was negotiating a border security bill in the senate, the house was impeaching him for failing to address the border, it does
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not get any more hypocritical than that, and the senate did the right thing by the constitution today. not because of partisan politics or anything else, it's the constitution, it cannot withstand this kind of abuse by the house republicans, nor should it, and chuck schumer, and the senate democrats absolutely did the right thing because this impeachment should never be legitimized. >> but it is one of the only things that the house of representatives has actually voted on. they've done nothing on aid to israel or ukraine. >> they passed it after two attempts, let's not forget, they failed the first time and then just by one vote, the second time but i'm optimistic, lawrence, we now have in front of us, effectively the senate border security bill or the
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senate foreign a bill that was passed a number of weeks ago and has been languishing in the house as ukraine has been dwindling in its ammunition and its ability to withstand russia. i cannot emphasize enough to you, how vital and urgent this aid is for ukraine. at first and foremost, because they are out of ammunition, and russia is making moves and pushing forward, ukraine can win this war as it had been doing prior to our delay in support but they will lose this war if they do not get our support, and i am optimistic that we will be able to pass this bill on saturday. i frankly applaud speaker johnson for doing the right thing in the face of a lot of opposition from the party of putin, which is the majority now of the house republican party. >> thank you very much for joining our discussion tonight. coming up, how trump's
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living under an 1864 law banning abortion. >> so, get in your car, and start driving. that's her solution. today, once again, republicans in the arizona legislature blocked a move by democrats to repeal that 1864 law which has now become a 2024 law fully supported by the republican elected officials in arizona. after winning the vote to preserve that 1864 law today, republicans in the arizona house of representatives celebrated. the university of virginia's center for politics published an undate on the arizona senate race today saying in arizona's open seat senate race, we now see the democrats as a narrow
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favorite. so we are pushing that race from tossup to leans democratic. congressman rubin gallego is likely to face kari lake. at this point, he is ahead of her in fund raising. just about every democrat running in competitive senate races this year significantly out-raised their gop challenger in the first quarter. nbc news notes not only have democrats been out-raising their republican challengers and building up their cash reserves, new fund raising reporting also show that they are now largely outspending their republican opponenting and politico reports today how donald trump is harming senate republican campaigns. in a letter received by republican digital vendors this week, the trump campaign is asking for down ballot candidates to use his name, image, and likeness in fund raising appeals to give at least 5% of the proceeds to the
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campaign. that is a donald trump imposing a 5% trump tariff on republican candidates who will discover that like trump's other tariffs, the campaign tariffs are not paid by china. joining us now is democratic senator gary peters of michigan. he is chair of the democratic senatorial campaign committee. you are the master mind of this big lead that the democratic senate candidates seem to have in fund raising at this stage. how important is that? >> it is incredibly important to have the resources in order to make sure that we have strong and robust campaigns. clearly what we are seeing this cycle is what we saw last cycle. we are holding the senate and expanding the majority in a
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midterm election and on track to do the same thing. in addition to raising record amounts of money and the reason we are doing that, is frankly, we have superior candidates. we have incumbents that have represented their state with honor and distinction and understand their folks better than anyone. and we are running against deeply flawed republican candidates. you talk about kari lake, she has become even more extreme than when she lost her race for governor and she has taken a position that is clearly out of step with majority of arizona voters when it comes to reproductive rights for women. this clear contrast in relation to these resources, we will need more. because the republicans have an awful lot of money, especially dark money that will come in. which is why we need to raise money. the desc needs to raise money. we need to defend the senate. that is why we have defendthesenate.org. our online fund raising arm which is critical to make sure
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we support these democratic candidates. fighting for the future of this country. >> today, kari lake said to the women of arizona if you don't like living under an 1864 law what medical services are available to you, get in your car and drive to california where they will welcome you. this is what republican campaigns are sounding like now. and there is no reason to expect they will ever come up with a better answer than that. >> you are absolutely right. you hear donald trump who is the architect overturning roe v. wade. he says leave it to the states to do it. we see what happens with some of these states. what's happening in arizona where there is an outright ban where women who are not going to have any opportunity to get the kind of health care that they certainly deserve. and to say they have to go
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somewhere else, you know, in this country, this is what democrats stand for. in this country, every woman regardless of where they live should have rights that are protected. it shouldn't matter what state they are in. but clearly that's not what we are seeing from republican candidates. that is clearly out of step with the majority of american people. and i think come november, we are going to hear loud and clear that the view is being rejected and our democratic senate candidates are going to win in all of these battleground states. >> senator gary peters, your reward for running the senate campaign so successfully two years ago is that they asked you, begged you to do it again. which is very, very unusual in that job. i'm not sure which of you has the tougher job. but you have both had a very strong week to put it mildly. thank you very much, senator, for joins us. >> great to be with you. >> we'll be right back. >> we'll be right back. y modere rheumatoid arthritis symptoms. with my psoriatic arthritis symptoms.
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