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now that he is in a general election situation, he needs to raise money. that takes time, attention. he needs to get out there. he needs to carry a message. it shows how formidable he is. still leading or just slightly behind in national polls, even though he hasn't been out there. we will have to see how this unfolds before we can make any kind of real judgement. >> thank you both so very much. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. watch clips from our show on youtube. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the trump trial in session today as the d.a. wants the former president to be punished for multiple
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social media posts since the trial began that he says really violated the gag order and could affect the jury pool. a hearing on that will take place tuesday. one juror chosen has been dismissed. questions about the truthfulness of another are being considered right now. more potential jurors are saying they do not think that they can be impartial and do not want to serve. a major flip from mike johnson. he is ignoing threats to oust him and saying that votes to pass aid to ukraine and israel are critical. >> this is not a game. it's not a joke. we can't play politics with this. we have to do the right thing. i'm going to allow an opportunity for everyone to vote their conscience on this. >> i will talk to mike turner this hour. ukraine's prime minister will be here to talk about the dire situation as they wait for u.s. weapons. ♪♪
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good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. jury selection in donald trump's first criminal trial is forging ahead despite this morning's setback. no new jurors have been selected today. one who was seated tuesday has been removed. the nurse raising concerns after friends and colleagues questioned her identity as a juror and whether she could be identified by details that have been disclosed in court. that led the judge to redact all employment information, previous employment information from official transcripts and instruct the media to use common sense attempting to keep any identifying characteristics about the juror anonymous. there are concerns with another juror, the i.t. consultant, that prosecutors say the man might have lied on the questionnaire after their research uncovered an arrest report from the 1990s. he just arrived in court where he told the judge he is annoyed about how much information is out in public about him.
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they will discussing that right now. we will see if he gets dismissed. that brings the total to six. perhaps five if of the needed 12 and six alternates. prosecutors today saying that donald trump broke that gag order seven times since monday. including when he reposted a false claim last night by a fox news commentator about perspective jurors. a tuesday hearing is set to sort that out. separately, what's called a sandoval hear is scheduled for the end of day tomorrow. that's when the judge will decide what's permissible if donald trump decides to take the stand, what's permissible about his past convictions in civil courts and other issues. prosecutors intend to bring up the recent civil judgements where mr. trump was found liable of business fraud, sexual abuse and defamation. we start with nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse
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for us, and former u.s. attorney joyce vance. vaughn, what's the latest on jury selection? they were questioning juror four. he was late to court today. he has expressed some concerns about information about him being released. the prosecutor has concerns he may have lied about his past record. >> reporter: exactly. there was expectation that there's going to be a lot of moving forward today, potentially filling the jury pool by tomorrow afternoon. instead, there is a walking backwards. number one, you have juror number two there who came in this morning after making a phone call to the court saying that she felt like she could not actually be fair and impartial after hearing from, in her words, friends, family, and colleagues. she said, quote, questioning my identity as a juror. i don't believe i can be fair and unbiased and let the outside influences not affect me. that juror was promptly dismissed and excused. they are looking to fill her vacancy. you mentioned, juror number
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four, deliberation is actively taking place over juror number four over the district attorney's investigation into this individual which hits at the heart of the questionnaire that these jurors were asked to fill out and announce their answers on. one question was whether they had been previously arrested. the district attorney's office bringing to the judge that back in the '90s, they believe this individual may have been arrested and been part of a corruption inquiry that centered around the tearing down of political advertisements. right now, juror number four, we don't have the details of what that conversation looked like. the judge moved to seal that part of the transcript. the d.a.'s office and defense team have the opportunity to question juror number four. in real time, we are waiting for the judge to make a determination whether that juror will remain or whether that juror will be excused. >> joyce vance, there's so much
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to dig into. how unusual is it for a juror to be selected then dismissed the way this happen happened and the second one might be? also, the question of things are being discussed about the past records, past employment records, facts, description of the facts about these anonymous jurors. now some of them are complaining. one did this morning that she wanted to be dismissed because she thought too much was revealed about her employment. the judge is now asking reporters at various instances not to report things in open court. it's all very interesting. we all need to err on the side of the anonymity of jurors, preserving that. even though these are things said in front of reporters. we will go along with that. at least in our jurisdiction here, when i have been a juror, you get called to the budge if you say you have a potential
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conflict. the judge asks you in the presence of the lawyers from both sides, the prosecutor and defense. then they decide -- the judge will decide whether it's legitimate or you are trying to get out of jury duty. a long way to say, this is really going -- it's going in different directions. >> you know, it's an unusual process. we knew it would be because of this need to protect the jurors' identities, which reminds me of doing violent organized crime cases. that's the only parallel that i have for when jurors were concerned that they remain anonymous. this defendant who we are seeing under questioning right now, it's not unusual to have -- rather, i should say, this potential juror. it's not unusual to see a potential juror who maybe has to clarify an earlier answer. in a situation where someone's not truthful, whether it's about a prior conviction or some other
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matter, often they are excused from jury service. what's so unusual here is this concern from the other juror who walked in after being selected and said, i don't think i can be impartial because of all of the outside influences that are being exerted against me already, even this early in the process. the judge was correct to excuse her from service. the question is whether he will be able to protect the remaining jurors from this same sort of influence. ultimately, there may be a question reignited about whether this jury needs to be sequestered for this process to go forward. >> joyce, donald trump has repeatedly said he wants to take the stand. we will see if that changes after the hearing which is tentatively scheduled for friday afternoon. because that's when the d.a. will lay out all these things he filed that he is planning to raise about the other proceedings against him that have concluded. the judge would have to decide
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whether that would be appropriate in cross examination. if it does, perhaps donald trump will decide he does not want to testify after all. right? >> you know, donald trump says a lot of things. criminal defendants don't usually take the witness stand unless they believe it's essential for their defense. donald trump, i suspect, will want to talk to the jury or will at least say he wants to. his lawyers will counsel him against that. there's an enormous risk of per perjury. there are concerns of this. testifying in front of a jury in open court under rigorous cross examination would certainly open trump up to a lot of potential problems. ultimately, the question will be whether the former president is willing to take his attorneys'
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advice and stay off the stand. the hearing which will take place tomorrow morning is a hearing in new york where the government comes forward and says, judge, if this witness -- if this defendant were to take the stand, we would want to cross examine him to impeach him on prior crimes and bad acts he committed. they are required to lay them out with specificity. when the judge rules, i think what we will see is he will consider each individual event to decide whether or not it's relevant, whether or not it might be unduly prejudicial so donald trump knows what the deal is before he decides whether to testify. >> apparently, juror number four, the person in question, is coming back into the court. maybe, vaughn, we will get an answer whether he will be seated or not. >> reporter: right. right now the camera is turned
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back on inside the room. our team is in the overflow room where they are not able to see exactly what is taking place. because of the personal nature here of the jurors' potential past arrest in the '90s that's being discussed in the questions that are happening in a sidebar conversation, they are now inviting juror four back into the room presumably to learn the fate of juror number four. right now, we have six jurors. the question is, do we hold on to six? do we go down to five? does this process lengthen out more? >> joyce, does this indicate to you it's going to be harder to seat this jury than we thought? the judge said he thought he could get this process over with by friday and start with opening statements on monday. that may be more difficult than he imagined. tuesday is a religious holiday for people, passover. monday night, actually. starting certainly on tuesday.
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then you have the issue of wednesday, which is still an observance of passover by some. this whole thing could be very slowed down next week. >> this is definitely slowing down the process. i think the judge lost 30 minutes on this inquiry over juror number four. the question will be whether that juror remains on the jury. then whether the judge can get back on track for considering this panel that's in front of the court this morning. remember, both sides have used up, i think, six of their strikes. that means increasingly they will be able to remove fewer and fewer jurors from this pool. when we talk about picking a jury, it's a misnomer to say the lawyers are picking jurors. what they can do is remove jurors. they can't say i want juror eight on my jury. they can say, i don't want juror number four. we are getting to the point where more and more jurors will remain on the jury because there
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won't be a strike. there will be none left. the process will speed back up. >> vaughn, joyce, thanks to both of you. we will bring you back if we get clarity on juror four and what his situation will be. thanks again for being there. minority report. a closer look at how many house democrats the speaker might need to get his foreign aid bills across the finish line. first, it has to get out of the rules committee. that's where it's being argued over right now. we will have a live report next when "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 60 seconds. stay with us. you are watching msnbc. makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities,
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job by ignoring motions of maga members. he is willing to take that chance. >> if i operated out of fear over a motion to vacate, i would never be able to do my job. i could make a selfish decision and do something that is different. i'm doing here what i believe to be the right thing. >> joining me now is democratic congressman and former majority leader steny hoyer of maryland. it's good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> first of all, we have to assume that democrats are going to help get this over the finish line if it gets out of the rules committee, if it gets to the floor, because the white house has so strongly endorsed it. basically, has the same numbers that were in the senate package, $61 billion in ukraine, for instance. is that true so far? >> andrea, i think that's a good
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assumption. we supported the senate bill. essentially the bills that are coming up, although they are separated, and will be voted on separately, the three bills in particular are essentially the senate bills. therefore, it would be reasonable to assume, a, we want to see them passed, and b, we will help achieve that objective. >> let's talk about how the speaker has completely changed his position now. he seems to be willing to ignore the motion to vacate and proceed with foreign aid, which is very unpopular with certain members of his party and with the former president with whom he just met last friday night. what do you think is going on there? >> he has made it clear for some months now that he believes confronting putin was important to do. he believed if putin went in and took ukraine, that he would not stop there, and he would pose a threat to nato nations, and then
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we would be implicated in that instance and would have americans participating on the ground and in the air in opposition to russia. he has articulated that it's important to act now to make sure that ukraine can be victorious in this efrl. i share that view. i think it's late. we should have done this two months ago. but it's never too late to do the right thing. we hope it's not too late to make sure that ukraine can successfully confront the invasion of its country by an authoritarian figure in putin. i think he's doing the right thing. i think we're going to support that effort. >> do you think that he can win this? apparently there's a republican meeting going on where there's a
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lot of tumult. maybe you have heard something going on. >> i can assume what's going on with chip roy and his colleagues that are members of the freedom caucus. it will be a negative response to moving forward with action, which they have impeded so often. i don't know exactly what's going on. i know that there's been a motion to vacate that has been filed. we will deal with that at the appropriate time. >> if you get this done saturday night, is that what your etch -- expectation is? >> hopefully, no later than saturday. the senate will stay and finish this, because time is of the essence. i presume we will have to come
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back next week after the senate has acted, unless they pass exactly what we send to them. as you know, if it's not exactly like that, we have to come back and get an agreement so that both sides have the same position. then we will pass those and send it to the senate. excuse me, send it to the president. >> will there be a separate vote on the tiktok provision, which would require tiktok to be sold by its owner? >> as i understand the present rule, it will provide for a separate vote on a bill that has -- a section of the bill that has miscellaneous items in it. the rule will have the three separate -- four separate parts joined after we pass each one of them. obviously, if one fails, that will not be part of the package. it will be that package as a whole, as one bill, that we will send to the senate.
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>> steny hoyer, thank you so much. >> thank you. judge merchan dismissed juror four. that brings the total number of seated jurors down to five. we thought it was seven. now, two have been dismissed for other issues that had come up. both being uncomfortable with the exposure that they had because of the conversations in the court. let's go back to manhattan and nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. >> reporter: we thought we made progress. we were at seven. now we are down to five. one coming into the courtroom today and telling the judge that she felt she could no longer be fair and impartial. the second juror, after further investigation by the district attorney's office into this individual's apparent past, there were questions dating back to the '90s about the extent to which this individual may have been involved in a corruption inquiry and had an arrest for taking down a political poster.
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this came to light after this individual had testified as part of their questionnaire that they had never had a prior arrest, which led the judge to engage with both sides, the d.a.'s office as well as trump's defense team over the last 45 minutes, and just here in the last four minutes, juror number four, who had been sworn in as a juror and been told to come back monday, was told to come back in this morning for this exchange here and was just notified that he, in fact, has been excused and dismissed. now this will continue about finding new jurors. so far this morning, there had been nine individuals who have answered questions from that 42-question questionnaire. we have not hit the voir dire process. we are still a ways away from that point in time. there's still nine other individuals in that jury box of 18 that are going to have to answer that 42-question
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questionnaire. we have a big afternoon ahead of us. this is not what the judge was hoping for. at the same time, for the defense team and for the prosecution, of course, they both want jurors that they could be confident are fair and impartial and are answering questions truthfully in order to know that they have a jury of 12 individuals and 6 alternates who can conduct business in a forthright and transparent way. >> thank you very much, vaughn hillyard. coming up, family matters. the kennedy family rallying behind joe biden with a big endorsement today in philadelphia as rfk junior's candidacy signals possible trouble for democrats in the general election in november. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. bc (vo) verizon small business days are coming. april 22nd to the 28th. get a free tech check. and special offers and deals. don't miss out. partner with our experts today.
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closest siblings and other kennedy family members. the white house is hoping this will help counter rfk junior's ability to peel off biden democratic voters in a close race, potentially electing donald trump. most of our rfk junior's siblings say they are backing biden over their own brother because they don't think he represents their father's and their values. the sister this morning. >> i love bobby. i like bobby. but this campaign is not about bobby. this campaign is about trump versus biden. bring your communities together and vote for joe biden. a vote for anyone else is a vote for trump. >> joining me from philadelphia is nbc news white house correspondent monica alba who has been traveling with the president. thanks for being with us. what are you expecting at this endorsement event? the white house is keen to have this kennedy celebrity event to
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try to bring democrats home, democrats who might be partial to the kennedy name or some of his policies. >> reporter: the fact that it's happening is notable, of course, but it's the image behind me a short time from now that's going to be quite striking, which is literally robert f. kennedy junior's closest siblings saying we believe president biden embodies the beliefs we have than our sibling or uncle. this is a message they are hoping to convey because they are worried about the stakes and the margins in key battleground states where he would siphon off votes for president biden that could tip the scale to former president trump. that's a little bit of the message that we are expected to hear today. we are expecting for the
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siblings to invoke their father, robert f. kennedy, one of president biden's political heroes. of course, because we are talking about this family matter, this wasn't easy, according to several of the family members we talked to, and it's been weeks in the making. there was the visit at the white house over st. patrick's day. here is a little bit of what former congressman joe kennedy iii told me in terms of how they decided to make this choice for today. was this a difficult decision for you as a family? >> of course. understand the difference in values of donald trump and joe biden. these are polar opposites. one has dedicated his life to the service of the country. the other has dedicated his life to service to himself. >> reporter: we know robert f. kennedy junior is responding with a lengthy post on x where he applauds his family for being
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politically active. he is pointing out this is the nature of a campaign and a democracy and that people can make up their own minds. >> monica alba in philadelphia. thank you. majority rules. house intelligence committee chairman mike turner joining us on the push for foreign aid bills to boost israel, ukraine and taiwan. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. hellc so am i. because i'm at risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. come on. i already got a pneumonia vaccine, but i'm asking about the added protection of prevnar 20®. if you're 19 or older with certain chronic conditions like asthma, diabetes, copd, or heart disease, or are 65 or older, you are at increased risk for pneumococcal pneumonia. prevnar 20® is approved in adults to help prevent infections from 20 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. in just one dose. don't get prevnar 20® if you've had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine
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the speaker mike johnson is saying that he is moving forward with critical votes to aid ukraine, israel and a big step to reign in tick tok despite resistance from some hard right members of his party. joining us now is congressman mike turner of ohio. thank you very much for being with us. breaking news all around us. we have clarified with julie tsirkin and some other colleagues on the hill what's been going on is the speaker came off the floor and was quoted by several members who did not want the ukraine vote to go forward, and there was a peaceful conversation until she reports wisconsin republican got involve and got into the speaker's face and started calling him names and said he would file a privilege motion to vacate, not the threat from marjorie taylor greene and congressman massey. what are your hopes of getting
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the ukraine and israel aid that you are passionate about to the house floor so you can have a floor? >> we have to pass this ukraine aid. it's at a critical time. because of the delay that has occurred in getting this funding approved, ukraine is running out of ammunition and inventory. the advanced weapon systems they need, that i believe the administration may soon approve that would give them an edge to be able to hopefully push russia back and repel their aggression. what's interesting about what you said on the house floor, we need to change the rule that is left over that allow for one member to call for vacating the cheer of the speaker. the speaker has shown incredible courage in bringing this package to the floor. what has happened, where the speaker's position used to have power and authority is that now you have the bully caucus who believes every one of -- each
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one of them can bully or threaten the speaker. that needs to stop. we need to get back to professionalism, back to governing, back to legislating. >> the house rules committee, which has to report this out -- they are the gatekeepers. they have hardline members. do you think it can get out of house rules? >> i think there's bipartisan support. this type of physical bully, not just legislative, is a great example. we need the speaker to be free from this type of threat so that he can do the right thing and certain the american people. he is showing tremendous courage. >> what about the fact that president trump -- former president trump has been very negative about the ukraine aid, wants it to be alone? there can be arguments for that. they have been arguing it to be done through the repo of taking russian assets. there's only $3 billion under
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our control. they are talking about doing that in june or addressing it in june. most of that russian money is frozen for some reason beyond my -- it's in belgium. there's more in japan. it's not the $61 billion that is going to provide the particular weapons that you just said are so important to ukraine right now, air defenses we can provide. >> you are right. we are seeing every day ukrainians are dying because of russian shelling and the need for air defense in ukraine. as you are aware, a good chunk of this money goes to replenish u.s. stocks. if you break down the portion that ukraine is getting, it's not -- it's a smaller portion overall of the amount of money that's being approved. even so, the united states has contributed less than half of all aid -- military and humanitarian -- to ukraine. we need to step up to the plate. it's part of the morale that
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ukraine needs. we need to stand up to putin. putin needs to know the united states is not going to walk away. we immediate to be on the side of democracy. >> another thing mr. trump said, i think on friday, was that the u.s. should not do anything until europe does something. europe did $54 billion this year. >> right. >> it's not that -- >> we are less than half of overall aid. the eu, collective nations, have contributed more overall than the united states has overall. >> i want to ask you about what you said in the last couple of days or a week ago, perhaps, about how some of the house republicans are repeating russian propaganda against ukraine, false charges against so-called corruption ukraine and other things that are unproved, but it's coming from the russian propaganda machine and ending up on the house floor. what can the intelligence chair or your colleagues do? >> we are trying to get into the hands of what fellow members -- information they can understand,
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what real threat russia is. it's pro-russian propaganda. we need to be able to clearly identify, russia is an adversary. they are field new weapon systems, including new nuclear weapon systems. they continue to hack into the united states. we continue to see threats to our infrastructure as a result of russia's nefarious actions. we will not allow them as an aggressor to continue to kill and threaten a standing democracy in europe that will, if they were permitted, cascade and threaten other nations in europe. >> when we met last in february in munich at the security conference, that weekend president zelenskyy was saying, we could lose this war, we could have to keep retreating. navalny was killed that friday of that weekend when we were there in munich. so many events were happening.
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it was a very downbeat meeting of the european leaders and the u.s. right now, it's gotten worse. kherson has been attacked. there have been retreats. they are in trouble. >> they are. this is winnable by them. two things need to happen. one, they need our aid so they have sufficient weapon stocks to be able to defend themselves and fight. they are doing the fighting. admirable and honorably. secondly, they need long-range weapon systems. they immediate to be able to hold crimea at risk and the russian supply lines and push back -- >> atacms. >> the 300 kilometer atacms long-range. they are being attacked with drones and missiles from crimea. they need to be able to take out the weapon systems to keep their people safe. >> i want to ask you about israel. their war cabinet is divided over how strongly to retaliate. they want to strike back at
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iran, but they are divided over they go to territorial or do other things, cyber, proxies. what do you think about that and the risk of a wider war if it becomes tit for tat? >> iran has escalated this. they have taken an attack to israel from iranian soil, an overwhelming use of force, 300 missiles and drones lobbed at israel. unfortunately, this administration has taken the issue that if -- this lessens the attack itself. this attack was intended to kill people in israel. it was an overwhelming use of force that came from iran. >> do you think israel should hit territorial iran or other ways to not bring this directly
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to iran? >> iran itself does need to feel the consequences. they haven't felt the consequences as a result of the proxies they have trained and funded and given weapons to. hamas and the attack on october 7, they are absolutely a proxy of iran, hezbollah, the same thing, houthis in yemen who are attacking our commercial shipways. all of this is being orchestrated, funded, trained by iran. they so far have not had any consequence. the fact that they have entered into this conflict and are attacking israel directly, they need to understand that there are consequences for that. i will leave it to the israelis to decide what they choose. >> mr. chairman, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me. coming up, the front lines. ukraine's prime minister joins us for a reality check on this years' long battle again russia and the dire need for u.s. aid. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.
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secretary of state tony blinken is call on ukraine's allies to provide kyiv with aid to defend itself against russian aggression and emphasizing the need for congress to pass that $61 billion aid bill. blinken met today in capri at a g7 meeting on the sidelines of the foreign ministers meeting. >> i would remind the profound space that the united states has in ukraine's success. if putin is allowed to proceed with immunity, we know he won't stop at ukraine. >> i would like to call on the members of the house to support the supplemental that will literally, without exaggeration, help save ukrainians from russian missile slaughter. >> joining me now is the prime
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minister of ukraine. thank you very much, prime minister, for being with us. >> thank you. >> first of all, we have been talking with the house intelligence chair, mike turner, about how critical this is. there's still opposition among some republicans in the house. tell us, what is the situation on the ground right now? what are the biggest needs for this aid for the military? >> thank you for having me here. situation on the ground is difficult, but having ammunition, we may win together as we do before. 50% of our territory is liberated. black sea is liberated with support of our allies, with help. now there's difficulties which we have on the front line are connected only with lack of ammunition. number one priority is ammunition. >> ammunition? >> ammunition, absolutely, artillery. second priority is air defense.
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now russians are using their missiles, guided bombs. we need to protect our skies. air defense, including f-16s. now we have preparation of our pilots. i hope nearest time will have it. patriots, united states production is the best one ever. >> the patriots air defense in. >> absolutely. we ask to supply as much as possible to ukraine. it protect us from any kind of russian weaponry, russian missiles, even hypersonic. it's absolutely great weaponry for protection of our citizens and our cities. >> the russians are getting long-range missiles and using them against ukraine. they are getting help from north korea. >> i think the russians cooperate with iran because they have iranian drones. they modernize this and they
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exchange data. we can see they are increasing their capacity and accuracy. we know also our intelligence has the same information that they cooperate with north korea. north korea supplies them some ammunition for artillery and ballistic rockets. we find some details from north korea ballistic missiles in our cities after missile strikes. that all brings us absolutely evidence of cooperation of the three country between themselves. >> a presidential advisor from kyiv told nbc news that there was distress in ukraine. you are are in war more than two years. you have had some really bad losses in the last couple of months because of the lack of some of this equipment and the delay in getting aid from the u.s. some of the reverses have caused president zelenskyy to say, you could lose this war if you don't
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get this help, when the war is winnable. you were winning before the shortage of munitions. there was concern that the u.s. came so immediately to -- and the world came immediately to israel's aid and it seems to be forgetting the war in ukraine, where you are suffering such losses. >> the situation on the front line is really difficult. we can see we lost some villages. we are still detour russian aggression. we still protect our land, our families, our homes. we still have a very high chance to win this war together with united states. we hope that this week house will support one of the draft, no matter for us which one. we need support yesterday, not today or tomorrow, for yesterday. we hope it will bring us
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immediate support from united states. then we will have a chance to win this war together with our partner, our friend, our allies, united states. we are so much grateful to people of united states, to government of united states for this unwavering support during these two years. we are sure that even now we have highest chances to win this war together. >> what if it is conditioned and comes in the form of loans that have to be repaid? what if it is somehow based on repossessing, unfreezing russian assets in the u.s.? that's only $3 billion. >> we have received more than $20 billion during two years from united states.states. we also have received weaponry produced in united states for the -- thousands of billions of dollars. for us any support is absolutely appreciated and very valuable, so we will be so glad and so
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grateful to united states for any kind of support, if it will be long-term like loan, it absolutely works for us. the same as a grant, so it will support our economy. it will support our defense forces and we so much appreciate any kind of support from the united states. >> and finally, russian propaganda, according to two powerful house republican chairs of intelligence and homeland security, are both saying that some of their republican colleagues are spouting inaccurate, totally false propaganda against ukraine to try to influence the votes. how big a problem is this, the russian propaganda machine propagating lies throughout america about ukraine? >> i should say that ukraine is finding on the ground, in the sea, in the sky, but all the west world now is under hybrid aggression from the russia side.
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so russia is using this propaganda disinforma attacks all around the world, in european union, in united states, in other democratic civilized countries. so we all are under influence on this russian hybrid weaponry, i would say, propaganda and disinformation. so we should be very careful. u. we should be coordinated to win this war in this dimension of propaganda and disinformation. because of this i call on all the partners to be very careful to use official information and to coordinate between ourself to go through this kind of hybrid attacks on our societies, on our politicians, on our countries. >> thank you so much, prime minister. >> thank you. >> thank you for everything you're doing right now. >> thank you so much. and the courtroom drama, we'll check back on all of the
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. back in the courthouse in lower manhattan, they still have not taken an expected lunch break as they continue to question jurors going through the voir dire process with these potential jurors. joyce vance is back with us now. also joining us is "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker. co-author of "the divider: trump in the white house." joyce, what's the latest from the courtroom? >> well, the process is back underway. jurors are in the box and they're being questioned reading from their questionnaires. so this is the process that we would expect to see taking place. i think the fact that the judge is delaying the much treasured lunch break in this courthouse means he's serious about getting this process back on track. >> and peter, "the new york times" today has a story detailing the type of juror that
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the trump team wants, including just to quote from "the new york times" today, younger black men and white working class men, particularly public employees like police officers, firefighters, sanitation workers, those who have had bad experiences with the legal system. knowing what we know about the five selected so far, they don't fit these demographics. >> no, they don't. i mean, a couple of attorneys, i think surprise a lot of people. what does that mean for them? does that mean they're going to be more strict in their application of the law or maybe might they be sympathetic to arguments of a technical nature that trump's team may raise. we don't know, of course. you're right, they're looking for a demographic that fits their definition of a trump voter, right? the people they think they can appeal to in new york city and manhattan specifically who might have sympathy or interest in donald trump going back years. remember what a large presence he has had in that city for a generation or more, right?
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he has been a universally known figure long before he was president in manhattan. new yorkers have opinions about him, many of them do. trump has always felt like he had a connection to people like the ones that were described in that article. we'll see if that's the case. >> and peter, let's go back to the campaign, which he's complaining understandably that he's not able to be on, although he gets some -- or at least in the past he's had some political benefit by being in the courtroom, we don't know yet. but he's going -- his first big event will be saturday in north carolina, since the trial began. that is such an important state to them. >> very important state to them, it's one of the states that he won still in 2020, but the democrats feel like is within range of possibly taking this fall if they get a good year. it's important too because it's going to be the first time he has had sort of an unvarnished opportunity in front of a large
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crowd to get his take on this trial, to get his take on the judge, if he chooses to say something or on the process that's going around. we already have this hearing scheduled for next week about whether he's violated the gag order. saturday may be the first test of how far he's willing to push that. clearly he does seem to want to provoke the judge, and i think that that's -- you know, it will be interesting to see how much he can, you know, how far he can push it without getting in trouble. >> and that hearing, joyce, we told you a little bit about this before, but this will test whether or not he wants to live up to his -- what he said he wants to do, which is to get on the stand, which is dicey for any defendant, but to say that he was going to do it, well, now what we've heard from the prosecutors is they plan to bring up what happened in these previous cases, and the cases where he's lost significant judgments so that he could be cross examined on that. the judge has to make that
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decision, presumably sometime after this tuesday hearing. >> you know, there will be a and -- sandoval hearing tomorrow, it feels like trump is trying to show the judge who's boss, and at the end it's the judge, the person in the black robe in front of the courtroom who controls decision-making. it's a novel and unique position for the former president to be in, but i think between these two hearings, he's about to find out who runs this courtroom. >> this this final minute, peter, you're covered donald trump for so long. he does not -- no one likes it, but he in particular the way he, you know, comported himself as president, he doesn't like to be in a situation where he has no control. >> no, he doesn't, and he doesn't like to be challenged in the same way. he certainly doesn't like to have somebody else in charge. it's not his courtroom. it is, in fact, the judge's courtroom, and he has made very clear, this judge, that he doesn't plan to tolerate
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disruptions. we'll see how far the judge is willing to go in order to enforce that, but you're right, donald trump is sitting there, and he's not happy about any kind of restrictions on his ability to communicate, on his ability to dominate the room, and i think that's an unusual position for him to be in. >> joyce vance and peter baker, thank you both so much. and peter's book again is "the divider: trump in the white house." that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media@mitchelreports. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. one step forward, two steps back. just when we thought donald trump's hush money trial was moving ahead of schedule, two of the seven people picked to serve as jurors have been excused. ju