i'll see you back here tomorrow. when robert garcia of california will be our guest as we follow the live house debate and votes on the critical foreign aid package to ukraine, and israel that we discussed earlier in this hour and remember, those are the votes that some members of the republican party say could cost the house speaker his job. makes you wonder at this point who would want that job any way? that is tonight's last word. the 11th hour starts now. >> this is the most historic thing that donald trump has ever done.

>> this is not a forum where the defendant has control. the judge is in charge and the jury decides. >> is accused of serious crimes and felonies. >> president biden, meanwhile, is in pennsylvania where he's educating voters on his plan. >> i don't see it through the eyes of mar-a-lago. i see it through the eyes of scranton. >> a wild run-up, a wild rundown, wild run up. >> when all is said and done, donald trump could wind up with 65% of all the shares in his company. every single dollar is found money. >> the wnba draft was the hottest ticket in town last night. >> win or lose, we are winning the games. >> if you saw the salary figures , it is really simple.

good evening once again. i am stephanie ruhle and we are now 200 days away from the election. and the differences between the two candidates could be more striking. it's the tale of two campaigns. president biden visiting key battleground states, highlighting what he has accomplished, and warning about the dangers if his opponent wins. donald trump, sitting in a new york city courtroom as a terminal defendant. let's bring in our nightcap all- stars, my colleague and friend, and beasts msnbc host, and former democratic congresswoman of the state of florida. bernie stelter is here. he's tried to be here for the nightcap a final time, and finally he's with us. >> i'm a virgin. >> is a special correspondent from vanity fair and author of network of lies.

and she is a true nightcap all- star, judy gold. she wrote the supremely amazing book, yes, i can say that when they come for the comedians we are all in trouble. there's a lot to cover. brian, on monday, the real meat -- the real business of trumps trial is going to start. is the media -- is the nation ready for this? >> i think this courtroom is like a prison for donald trump. he is stuck. he gets reprimanded when he tries to stand up. what an incredible contrast to joe biden, who is out buying hoagies at wawa. owing to sheets and wawa in the same week. he was almost flaunting his freedom by going on the campaign like a normal guy, a normal candidate in the most abnormal year. >> let's talk about the jury.

the jury selection happened much quicker than people thought. on monday, they were like, this is going to take five weeks, six weeks. but there was real concern about the safety and the security of these jurors. so i got a question about the media. do you think we should be reporting in such detail that this juror is a male and he works for an insurance company? all of this information, how does that serve the american public? the judge certainly doesn't like it, and these jurors start to get more and more uncomfortable, there can be a real problem here. >> it doesn't have that kind of discipline. there's no way you're going to get everybody to agree not to describe the jurors. what we have to do is provide security for the jurors. listen, there were thousands of new york city police officers all over downtown. the least we can do is protect those jurors. so i wouldn't restrict journalism. i would say, we have to provide security for those jurors.

>> but alex, we know what's right and wrong. and we think about what serves the american people, what serves our audiences and readers. >> i think you want to allow context. i think it's important that we understand who these people are to the degree that it protects their anonymity. but you understand the area, the place from which they are coming. maybe how well-educated they are , what kind of jobs they are holding down. it helps give a perspective of how they might weigh in on this. granted, we have to wait for the full trial to play out and see what happens for the verdict and when they are doing jury deliberations, but i find it interesting. i would now like to stop it. i think we don't need to know anymore about who these people are, because my respect for them -- i'm going to give a little bit away what were talking about later. i mean, these jurors -- think about what they are sacrificing for this. what they are risking for this. their lives will probably never

be the same, and we have to respect that. >> it such a sad state of affairs that jurors have to worry about their safety when they are doing their civil duty. >> in a trial for a former president of the united dates of america. >> the newsrooms are trying to have thoughtful conversations about how to handle these conversations, but it's hopping in open court, open public. we live in a different era now, and era were security concerns are very weel. i applied for a press credential. >> you wanted to go? >> i wanted to go. my request was denied, unfortunately. >> why? >> i don't know. a couple of friends of mine said, you need to wear a disguise. the last time i worked at a trump alley, cnn sent me with a bodyguard.

and i feel like sometimes, newsrooms are forgetting that we are not in a pre-trump culture with pre-trump rules. >> and don't you think the fact that the judge said it cannot be delayed, what you are saying about everyone thought it was going to take so long to pick these jurors, and today, they tried -- yeah. >> donna, let's talk about the split screen that brian referenced sort of at the top of the hour. you got donald trump sitting in a courtroom. trapped in a courtroom. a guy who never abides anybody else's rules, and joe biden is out there on the campaign trail. do you think these two visuals, the side-by-side, are going to impact independence and undecided voters? >> i do gets cumulative. so it's this, plus everything else that is going on. one thing i want to say about donald trump in the courtroom -- remember, he's not a morning person. he's got to get up earlier than

he's ever gotten up before and doesn't sleep very well. >> so it is more than he just has to sit there all day. it's just that his body chemistry -- this is why he's going to nod off. he's going to fall asleep. it's more than just a contrast of him sitting there, sitting there really uncomfortable. and joe biden, out on the campaign trail. but it's got to be cumulative. you got to think about all these things added together. >> is like a torture victim, saying it's too cold in the courtroom. >> i don't think this is going to hurt him so much. if you think of what he does and says outside the courtroom, it is the same donald trump tropes. he is being maligned, this, that and the other. it's the same thing he says when he goes out on the campaign trail. >> it's not necessarily about hurting him, because the people who love him i want to stay loving him.

what is he going to discover that is going to help him? he lost the last presidential election, and while his base is loud, it is not currently big enough for him to become the next president. >> i can't even believe your having to ask the question, what will donald trump discover that helps them by being a criminal defendant. >> is a legit question. the fact that we are even asking it -- and i don't have an answer to that. >> is a victim. he loves being the victim. >> and it's the same thing -- >> and reinforces the victimhood. there's no question that it reinforces this. but i have got to say, everybody is going to be watching this. and so we are going to pick off people that we didn't pick up before. >> i disagree. because there's no cameras in the courtroom, i think only

needs junkies are going to watch. only political junkies are paying attention. but i guess we are going to see. right now, trump's voice is the dominant one. he's the one speaking the loudest. >> but then this is my media question. i was talking about the split screen, but as i said it, is there a split screen? all eyes are on trump, right? if this trial wasn't going on, we don't cover his rallies anymore. we are not sitting outside mar- a-lago. every news truck in the greater new york area is sitting outside that courthouse, and i wonder -- how is that going to impact campaign coverage? >> maybe biden should read the transcript of proceedings every night. >> is been using it a bit. i just hope he takes this opportunity that he has, biden, to do something good, and to express -- look at me. i'm out on the campaign trail, because i'm not in a courtroom because i have committed crimes. >> you are also talking about

the national press. all politics is local, and he's going around the country giving local coverage, reaching out and talking to people. >> i think the only thing -- back to your original question on what will hurt him is a guilty verdict. >> here's the thing -- lots of people are sort of assuming there will be a guilty verdict. it's been months and months and months. great, the trial is happening. that doesn't mean he's going to be found guilty. and if he is not, then what? >> oh, boy. >> that we have a respect for democracy and the democratic process. >> wow. >> you think we are ready for that? >> i would never hear that from the far right media. >> i'm a college resident, got to be responsible here. >> this trial is happening in manhattan. donald trump, the boy from queens, and his entire life trying to be the king of new

york city, of manhattan. when you think about new york city in the 80s, it like donald trump. how extraordinary is it? these two are never, ever getting back together. >> 150,000%. >> is that donald? >> no, luckily it's not a family number. but i love when they call. it's like, seriously? >> that's a devoted mom. >> it is like he has wanted to be the cool guy from manhattan, and he is not. he is a criminal in manhattan. and i hate to say it, but i love watching it. >> being judged by his peers. >> listen. i know 10 people that fit all those descriptions of those jurors. i know 12 people in manhattan.

>> how can you be unbiased? i just don't know how you can be a new york resident and be unbiased. >> i think i could pull it off. >> really? >> i do. >> that the challenging thing. you really consider your someone who is looking for fighting truth, and you oppose lies. >> the most interesting part of this case will be trumps defense. we all know the prosecution, we all know the argument against trump. but how will he defend himself? >> i want to talk about something else as it relates to donald trump. he's in the worst position ever, he's losing on top of losing, but i want to talk about the jt. this is the media company that is now gone public. we now track it every single day. after the stock fell this week, it went back up. he stands to make billions of dollars on this stock that has been gifted to him if he keeps traffic flowing, he keeps the

stock moving, he keeps the trading. this is extraordinary. i don't even know why you bought the stock, but you did. >> i did buy some shares. i sold it as soon as i made $100 profit because i was too petrified to own the shares. it was an easy flip, right? a couple of weeks ago, you can make an easy buck behind the stock. now it's the opposite. that's why i sold within the day. the company is too sketchy. almost no one uses truth social, and i do think the stories of people -- the stories of men putting their life savings into this company are downright sad. >> you know what? hold on a minute. hold on a minute. are they sad? listen to me. when you buy a stock, okay? you are doing it -- it is buyer beware. this stock, this company, is not fundamentally sound. there is no other company like this that has gone public that

has had no technology, no offerings, no management. there is nothing there. and if people are choosing to take their money to buy into the dream -- sorry, boys. >> i was part of the problem, only for a day or two. it has rebounded a little bit. is there potential he's going to get his fans -- >> is it because he's in the news? >> there's a bunch of technical reasons. we'll see where this thing ultimately goes. >> yes, whether it's from stock or trumps bibles or trumps sneakers, if there's a market for it, and these people want to buy it, why would they be victims? >> i think it's striking how few people are able to -- it's remarkable that the stock has not performed more successfully. yes, he had a couple of good days, where are the millions of trump loyalist? >> they are not in the market.

>> the other reason is, you are seeing so few -- you don't have to get too technical. you're seeing so few shares trade because real money managers, pension funds, they are not buying this. because they have a fiduciary responsibility to their investors. they need to turn to their investors and say, this is the reason i purchased this stock, and they cannot give rationale. that's why it's only mom and pops and individuals. i read the washington post story as well, but donald trump has been a grifter in business for decades and decades. he has gone bankrupt six times. the last time he had a publicly traded company, it went right down the tube. if you choose to buy this, i'm supposed to feel bad for you? >> yes. >> why? >> you are talking about mom- and-pop, people putting their life savings into something like this. you have to have some sympathy for people that are going to lose their pensions or whatever their investing. >> i did donate my $100 profit,

so my hands are clean. >> fine. >> michael milliken ripped off lots of people. you know, the penny stocks, all of these people that have deceived ordinary people by trying to sell them -- i got to be sympathetic to them. i want to tell them the facts, i want to tell them, don't invest in this. once they do, i just can't write them off. >> i'm not writing them off, but if you are going to buy a stock, it is incumbent upon you to do your homework. and the news is out there. we walk through this every single day explaining this company. if you still want to buy into this nonsensical dream -- sorry. nobody is going anywhere. when we come back, trumps far right allies are saying the quiet part out loud. we are going to dig deep into

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deeper dive into project 2025. get to know this thing. it is a 900 page playbook manifests so fr trumps closest allies and far right conservatives laying out what a second trump presidency would look like from day one. here's an example. conservatives should gratefully celebrate the greatest for family win in a generation, overturning roe v wade. a decision that for 5 decorate made a mockery of our constitution and facilitated the death of tens of millions of unborn children. but the dobbs decision is just the beginning. donna, you are the person i want to talk about this with. during the clinton administration, your secretary for the department of health and human services. project 2025 wants to got it and rename it the department of life. you know exactly what this agency does, how important their work is. what is your take on this plan? how alarmed are you?

>> i am not very alarmed, because most of the things that they are recommending have to be approved by congress. you can't change the name of a department, you can't eliminate a department. you can't eliminate a program without permission from congress, because they set up cabinet level departments. this one is scary, because it's so outrageous. but have you heard about the american first policy institute? there's another one that is close to trump that has a bunch of trump b's that work in the white house that are also doing the same thing, and before the election, will probably have two or three more transition groups identified. this is pure trump. we have two, three, four, maybe. and then the regular transition group will be put together and they will all pile on and try to influence the ongoing transition. but this one is just crazy. if the heritage foundation.

>> doesn't their intent were you? >> absolutely. >> when you read these words, when you understand what they want to do -- >> will know what they want to do. they want to destroy the government and the united states. that's with that small group in congress wants to do. do they worry me? sure, they worry knee. but i just want to point out that there are other groups associated with trump. there's a lot of this going on, and when the regular transition group get set up, usually after the election, but sometimes they start before the election -- that is what we are seeing now. i read that report. much of it has to be approved by congress. >> brian, i know you care about this. when a donald trump was president, he would threaten that he wanted to revoke the licenses of broadcasters because he was unhappy with the news reports. how real is this threat, if donald trump were to win? >> msnbc is a cable network --

we are watching here -- we are watching here on cable. it's not licensed the fcc. but the parent company is licensed by the fcc, just like fox and all the other broadcast networks. i just finished writing a piece about, what would trumps efforts against the media look like? i think start trying to appeal the licenses is just the beginning. that would just be the beginning when it comes to media. i'm more concerned about what you just described for this idea of the department of life and this warping of the term pro-life. emergency rooms refused to treat pregnant women, leaving women to miscarry and a lobby bathroom. this is describing women turned away from emergency care is of hospitals that are afraid that might provide some service that might be construed as something that is violating antiabortion laws. one of these babies died and the woman was set out to have her baby in her car.

these stories should be national news. thanks to the ap, some of the stories are national news. that takes it to another level of extremism. most americans, when they hear about this stuff, they don't want it. >> what about all the americans who don't hear about this? most have no idea what project 2025 is. and it's stunning, because these 900 pages are a public document. but the majority of americans are not going to hear about it. >> what scares me about the whole thing as i look through it and they are so organized compared to 2015. i mean, think about it. they learn from their mistakes, they learn from the chaos of the first administration, and they are thinking we are going to come into this organized and ready to go, except what don is saying -- they are not ready to go. a lot of what they are putting forth his best to try to put out their views, the reality is, they probably can't legally do what they say they are going

to do. >> but they can influence the regular transition that's what take place. they can put people in place that can change regulations, for example. it is their attitude and their goals that are scary, because they are training people at the same time. >> they are training in regulations, how you change regulations, and how you deal with the bureaucracy. a lot of this is training individuals that will go into the administration as well. and this is scary. i do want to say summing about emergency rooms. as a case before the supreme court, the idaho case, in which idaho -- which has almost no abortion -- is stopping people who have all sorts of medical problems with their pregnancy from coming into an emergency room. there is a federal law -- and

it makes it very clear that everyone that walks into an emergency room has to be treated, has to be able life, and no matter whether they have insurance or not, or no matter what their status is, if they are undocumented -- they can walk into an emergency room. that case is before the supreme court, and if the supreme court upholds that, that will affect every emergency room in the country, whether or not you have abortion on your ballot or anything else, or whether you really still are allowing legal abortions. >> judy, if you are the biden campaign, he is chock-full of campaign dollars. you take the 900 pages of project 2025 -- do you take this case in idaho? you take the stories from north carolina and wallpaper them across the country to make people aware? >> 100%.

you know, fear is so powerful. and that's what the republicans have also run on. fear they are going to take your guns away, they are going to take this away. and we've got to take something from their playbook. this is truly what is happening. and if biden doesn't talk about it, take this opportunity. because most people are pro- choice. and most women are pro-choice. >> even carry lake this week, apparently. >> and also, i have to say as a free speech advocate, the assault on journalists -- putting our first amendment rights in this position, you know, trump wanted to investigate saturday night live. it's ridiculous. this is just beyond the pale. and i just -- i believe that the biden administration, as we

were saying, you know, trump is in front of the courtroom, or in front of the courthouse. to go back out and talk about this stuff. >> kamala harris is doing a smashing great job. she's going out across this country and she is talking about abortion. >> i noticed the biden campaign -- trump was on a stage somewhere this week saying after four years of scorched earth -- she was promising four years of scorched earth. scorched earth. >> stay with me. because you know who would and should detest scorched earth? fortune 500 ceos. if you are the ceo of a major corporation, you want stability. so there's a lot of people right now who are scratching their heads, because it seems like more and more business leaders are kind of open to trump. do you believe they are open to trump, or really, they just want to keep their heads down and their mouth shut, because they don't want to make an

enemy out of him if, in fact, he were to become president? >> heads down. it's as simple as that. they are in hiding. >> do you think that president biden isn't necessarily getting as much credit from the business community because he doesn't spend very much time with them? >> of course he's not getting enough side from the business community. but on some of these other issues, we got abortion on the ballot in florida. we got a bipartisan coalition. our polls show that we have to get 60% of the vote. >> you think florida is winnable for the president? >> i don't know if it's winnable, but i think we can win the abortion argument in florida. >> everyone is staying right here. when we return, women's hoops getting a jolt of excitement. but cannot last long enough to get these ladies the pay they deserve? were going to get into it when the 11th hour and nightcap continues.

a lot of people this week were outraged about katelyn clark's wnba salary. but there are some important details to consider. i do not believe this is about gender bias. this is about economics, and it's a great story that at this moment, there is great hope for the future of women in basketball. judy, you are a basketball mom, you're a basketball fan.

we are now four days out from the draft, from all this. i'm going to call it misguided outrage, of people comparing wnba pay and nba pay when it's beyond apples and oranges. you see this is a great opportunity to actually change the game and change paid? >> i said 100% before, but 200%. i son plays college basketball and we spoke about this, and i loved your article. it was so right on. because when you look at -- the wnba is 27 years old. >> the nba has a 50 year head start. >> if you look at where the nba was when it was 27 years old -- >> the toilet. >> and now, the amount of people who viewed -- their ratings went through the roof for the women's finals.

we have social media now. they didn't have social media. we have these heroes. they are celebrities. it is purely an economic decision. you work for one company that is $20 million, and another company that has $500,000. sorry, the workers are going to paid more at the company. >> the nba is going to bring in $13 billion this year. the wnba is not. >> but i am hopeful. >> but i want to talk about the outrage this week. i get how fans can look at this and be mad, but we saw asked it's on tv -- i saw pat mcafee say it's laughable that katelyn clark is getting paid. look at how many watch the wnba draft. it doesn't matter how many people watch the draft. yes, it was 3 million. nobody's getting an extra dollar after the fact. it's about the next media contract and the great opportunity ahead.

>> is a like a white guy who just wanted to sound like an ally. but when you look at these charts with the ratings, with the finals in the draft on friday on espn, 2.4 million viewers, that is quadruple last year. that kind of growth doesn't happen anywhere in this industry. when you see those charts, you wonder how quickly -- >> giddyup. donna, we are talking about fairness in pay for pro athletes. a lot of them come from colleges where they bring in huge dollars and they are not paid. you ran schools with major teams. miami, wisconsin -- what is your take on student athletes get paid? >> first of all, they are getting paid right now. they're getting paid now in a different way in a wild west market. and i'd like to see some more discipline in that market, because i'd like more of them to get paid. that's not going to happen unless there's an antitrust exemption that we see congress pass.

but student athletes at the major universities have always gotten paid. room, board, tuition, and a stipend. and if they get pell grants, they get even more than that on top. but this new legal system allows some athletes to get millions and some athletes to get $1000 a month. so i think they getting some control over this, to even it out -- particularly for the olympic sports -- i am concerned, not about football or men's basketball, but i'm concerned about women's tennis and soccer and all the other sports. but i do think it is economics on the -- on the women's basketball program. >> so we all have to tune in and we all have to buy tickets. >> i was the first ticket holder of the mystics. >> you were? >> i bought a whole bunch of

tickets for hhs secretary and i think i bought 20 tickets, and everybody use them. we went to lots of games. >> it was very exciting. >> it's a beginning for a whole generation. >> this could be the moonshot. >> by the way, you are supposed to play basketball. but i would also go to the nba and say, put some money into this. >> the nba puts a lot of money in the wnba. they been subsidizing them for years. >> figure puts more money into it. you know what they did, was u.s. soccer. we took the fee for money and we divided it more evenly, and the men players agreed to that so that we can actually support the women's program, which was the much better program. >> i want to talk about another woman who was on top of her game -- taylor swift. she just released her 11th studio album today, the tortured poets department.

it's out of surprises, lots of songs about her exes, settling scores, i'm looking at you, kim kardashian. she's already breaking records. brian, with every release, it's clear -- this woman is in charge. is taylor swift the most powerful person in music? >> yes, and may be in all of media. she's burning so bright in the last six months, there was going to be a lot of backlash to the album. we build people up just to watch them fall. there have been some reviews today that it had some fair critiques, but i love the new album. i love clara bow, i love florida, maybe a few too many f bombs for my taste. i'm going to have to find a clean version, but we have the cd and the vital coming in the mail tomorrow. i will find a way to edit it out for her. >> you think about music in the last month, two people have not just dominated music headlines. it's like every story and it's beyonci and taylor swift.

>> what are they calling? girl pop spring? >> i think it's great. she's a girl who obviously loves hard, sings hard, lives hard, works hard. expresses hard. i love listening to her. i think she puts it all out there. i think she's fantastic. i'm glad she seems to be in a really happy place right now, because the songs about joe and mattie are kind of sad. and you know, travis -- there's a through line between taylor clarke and beyonce. >> girl power. >> it's the power of women. >> it's the power of women supporting women. you see beyonci and taylor swift's movie premiere. gone are the days when people believed there couldn't be two powerful women. one had to take down the other. the support you are seeing from these icons, that is new. >> it is sisterhood at the

highest level, and you wouldn't have seen it a generation ago. these are not queen bees. >> i come from a period of time where female comedians were on a show, there would only be one. there's only one, or -- and we never got to travel together. we never went on the road together. >> why? >> they would never put more than one woman on a show. if they put a woman on. and it was . >> i'm just glad to be the only man here to ballot it out. >> and i say, i was so disappointed by courtney love this week. remember, she came out and was denigrating taylor saying she's not that peschel? >> she actually said, she's not important. and what stunning about that is, check yourself, courtney. everyone is. >> very true. >> is an old-school approach. >> yeah, but they set up the system so that woman would be like, is only room for one of

you. that's how they set up the system. >> were going to take a quick break, but before we do, i have a quick surprise i want to share with everybody. it's a music video i cannot get enough of. i been watching it over and over even before taylor's release came. watch this. >> not only was that fabulous -- not only was i not taylor swift, it was our own alice smith.

wait. i need you to know the name of the band. alex, give us the honor and tell us the name. >> okay. misses robinson. >> first of all, i thought we were friends, okay? did you get that off a vhs? >> we are not friends, we are sisters. when we come back, it's my favorite part. it's time for mvps of the week. you don't want to miss it when the nightcap continues. “look at all those snacks!” “i did just pay 60% less for my ticket with the gametime app.” “it's the best place to get last-minute deals on tickets.” “i guess i'm just a better fan than you.” “(crowd cheering) i've got to get the gametime app.” “download the gametime app and use promo code viva to get $20 off your first purchase.”

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>> our nightcap is here, and it's time for mvps of the week. who had a big one? >> i tried to be funny and creative, but i couldn't get past the trump jurors. and everything that they have gone through to get to where they are, and what we know lies ahead -- i would probably say the trump jurors are proud jurors for the next six weeks. i just think everything, honestly, that you're going to have to wait into literally upholding democracy, upholding truth, upholding all these things that want to be taken down by the man they are going to be hearing all about, it would be easy. >> president of columbia university. she nailed her testimony before congress. and then she goes home and has to do a very painful act, and that is have her students arrested because they were disrupting the campus. she is really an absolutely

first rate leader. >> she learned from harvard and penn. she learn from their mistakes, because they were pretty profound. >> they were. >> monday was tax day. but i love mark cuban's sentiment. on twitter, he toasted his tax bill. he said i'm paying $288 million to the country today. i'm proud to pay my taxes every single year. his accountants then emailed him and said, actually, your own amount is told only $275.9 million. but i felt a lot better paying my tax bill. >> he also said, i believe, tag a president who doesn't pay. >> he was right to say after military service, paying your taxes is the most patriotic thing you can do. >> so we have at least one corporate leader. >> there you go. a lot of corporate leaders pay their taxes. they just do everything humanly possible to get them whittled

down. >> well, i decided to be happy, and picked someone -- a positive thing that happened this week, and that is maresca hargitay. >> are you and sbu super fan? tmac yes. my older son, not the basketball one, is obsessed. so she was shooting, and she was in the middle of a scene with ice-t. and she -- a girl, a little girl walks over, because she saw the badge, and said i can't find my mommy. or -- i'm paraphrasing. she stopped the shooting and went and found -- reunited the little girl with her mom. and of course, they were all judge he, like, where is the mom? oh, you let a kid just walk around the pond? >> what is it, celebrating 25 years? she is incredible is olivia

benson. >> she is olivia benson. i've met her a few times and she is so nice. >> she is extraordinary. >> my mvp is in the entertainment realm as well. it's kevin bacon. you may not know why. 40 years after he taught high school kids that it is not a sin to dance -- look at him. the star of footloose is going back to where it all happened. listen to me. students at payson high school -- you've never heard of it. it's in utah. they let a two year campaign to convince kevin bacon to come talk to their school. that re-creating and raising money for charity, and they did it just in time. the school is going to get torn down early next year, so this is going to be the last prom where footloose was filmed. but the dancing will always live on. kevin bacon. >> brian, judy, thank you all.

you are fantastic friday night dates. and for you at home, i wish you a very, very good night. remember, you can catch the nightcap most fridays, would you did right now, and saturdays at 11:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. all of our colleagues across the networks at nbc news, thanks for staying up late with me. i will see you again on monday.

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