have giant pandas here in the united states has contributed highly significantly to the preservation of the species. perhaps the only place to see them stateside is the atlanta zoo. whenever they do arrive, they're expected to stay for at least a decade. plenty of time to catch a glimpse of nature's beauty in black and white. there's more good news on the panda chrome front. san francisco's mayor announce add deal to bring a pair there. they are still working out details. with all of these giant pandas coing cali, the golden state will be black and white all over. >> thank you so much. that's going to do it for us today. see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. ♪♪

good morning, it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific, i'm josé diaz-balart. we begin this busy hour with escalating tensions across college campuses nationwide. hundreds of demonstrators have been arrested as students across the country protest israel's war against hamas in gaza. local police moved in on some of the student encampments as some universities urged protesters to disperse. the university of georgia confirmed police arrested protesters who had set up tents on that campus. there's no sign these demonstrations are slowing down. just this morning, the president of columbia university in new york said the school will not divest from israel. she added, quote, one group's rights to express their views cannot come at the expense of another group's right to speak, teach, and learn. joining us now, nbc's antonia hylton live from columbia's campus. good morning, what's it like on campus to today?

>> reporter: good morning, jose. well, there's a standoff really happening here at columbia today. you just mentioned the letter, and that is sending some shock waves through the student body as students in the encampment try and figure out what they are going to do. the administration has announced the came to know resolution. the school is still going to maintain their relationship with the state of israel, and they are asking students to value voluntarily leave. one student brought out a copy of the notice that the campus distributed to students who are in the encampment, and i'll read some of it to you now. it says please promptly gather your belongings and lead the encampment. if you leave by 2:00 p.m. you can sign a piece of paper, identify yourself to officials and you'll be able to complete the semester in good standing. students who do not sign this piece of paper that i have with me here, they, however are going to face disciplinary action, possible suspensions, and it may mean that they do not end the

semester in good standing. so what i hear from students who are in the encampment is they are looking at their options. take a listen to one of the organizers. >> i have family members in israel that are participating in this brutal massacre of palestinian civilians. i don't know exactly what they're doing, but the fact that they're members of the idf, so i have a little bit of personal guilt and then so many of the students feel like our voices weren't being heard. we had had protests. we had marches. we had petitions. there were referenda in many different schools that all passed overwhelmingly supporting full divestment. >> reporter: for the students who you met right there, kids like him, this is an issue right now where they are facing this 2:00 p.m. deadline, and they're starting to separate themselves into different groups. the students who are willing to risk arrest, suspension, other

issues with the school and students who are going to pack their belongings who say they want to finish this semester in good standing. we will be on campus as 2:00 p.m. nears and we'll be able to observe what happens t. is all the talk as students try to figure out how do they contest their protests under this pressure. >> do we know how the commencement ceremony is going to be affected by this? >> well, what we've been assured by the administration is that commencement is going to go forward as planned, and they mentioned in their notes that they will try to give students an alternative area to hold protests at that time, but the students who are the core group, just like the gentleman you just heard from right there, there's some resistance to moving to the site where the university wants them to go, and so the question is will they really get out of this encampment, will they really disperse before we get closer to that date. the university seems to think they'll be able to push forward and continue plans as they have always been. they are really in particular concerned about students, many of whom are part of this group,

this graduating class who didn't get to have their high school graduation, and they're starting to hear from parents, community members who want to make sure their kids get that symbolic moment, those photographs, that memory, and that seems to be what the school is concerned about as this inches closer and we'll see what ends up happening to the protesters and where they land, jose. >> antonia hylton, thank you so very much. joining us from columbia's campus as well. bruce roberts, it's great seeing you. i thank you for your time. you visited -- >> thanks for having me. >> -- this encampment of students protesting the war at your university. how do you see it? >> well, i admire the students enormously. i admire their sentiments and their courage. i, frankly, am very disappointed in the administration. i think it's very shortsighted for them at the very, very least, i think they should be considering divestment more

seriously. if they saw themselves in history, they would be thinking about south africa and how clearly it was a good thing history has judged it, a good thing to divest from a white supremacist state. the slaughter in gaza certainly stacks up pretty well against the white supremacy of south africa. i think the students are right to ask for divestment. if the university can't give the students everything they want, they could do something symbolically very powerful by saying we will divest, for example, from x company, y company, which are providing arms and helping very, very directly in the slaughter in gaza. there are things the university could do if they were more statesman like, if they had more of a sense of where they belong in history, a sense that there are more important things. history will judge. there are more important things

than some nice graduation pictures. >> i know you've written about some of the ways you feel the university's president has mishandled these demonstrations. what are your main criticisms? >> well, my main criticism is that the president called in the police. i think almost all of the faculty is united in feeling that, and many, many people, probably as many people on the faculty are united in thinking that in her testimony before the house of representatives, she didn't stand up for the principles of the university. she really just was craven and so were the trustees who testified with her. so the university generally did not show its best side in either of those ways. >> what do you see as principles, those principles that you think were violated by the president and board of trustees, what were those principled violated? >> well, for example, to tell

the house of representatives that one faculty member would never teach at columbia again. to tell the house -- i mean, the president doesn't have the authority to decide any such thing. to reveal the information about an investigation that was supposedly happening of another professor when it appears there was no such investigation, but in any case, if there were an investigation, it would be anonymous. so transparency, shared governance, shared governance is important because you don't call in the police without asking the faculty senate. the faculty senate was created after 1968 exactly to avoid this kind of situation. the president doesn't seem to be aware that she had an obligation to consult the faculty, and we on the faculty think that she did. >> and professor, just your thoughts on -- and maybe just a

broader conversation about freedom of speech, freedom from intimidation. we have seen pictures and videos of chants inside the columbia university campus that many would consider anti-semitic, racist, and hateful. where do you think, professor -- >> i'm sorry. >> ooh, you all right? >> i'm sorry, it was a phone call. i just had to hang up. >> okay. that's all right. live tv is -- has everything. i just want your thoughts, if you would about freedom of expression, freedom from intimidation. some pictures that we've seen from inside that encampment show signs and some chants that many would consider offensive, intimidating, anti-semitic. where do you think, professor, the line should be between free speech and the freedom to

protest? and intimidation, lack of respect for others' perspectives, opinions, or even religion? >> yeah, you pose a very, very complicated question. i recognize that it is a complicated question. i think intimidation is a very strong word, and much of what has been called intimidation, the sorts of things that have been called in question as endangering the safety of student students. i say this as a jew on campus, it's really been a matter of making people feel uncomfortable rather than intimidating or in any way threatening people. yeah, it hasn't really been threatening. i'm sorry, the words are failing me. so yes, it's a genuine question.

what i have thought and i have said a couple of other times before is that universities have the right, even an obligation to create speech codes and to sustain speech codes on campus, which are different from what is constitutionally available outside campus in the united states. so for example, i do not think that genocidal discourse should be permissible on campus because that would genuinely be intimidating for anybody targeted by that discourse. but when i say that, when i feel it and i do feel it as somebody who has been verbally and physically assaulted by anti-semites, i just don't think there has been any genocidal talk at this campus. the exception is the one thing that everybody has heard about, the young man who said he wanted to -- zionists didn't have the

right to live. he said this three months before the encamp. he apologized for it afterwards. it was not representative of the things that i have heard in the encampment. >> and i've got to tell you that's such an important -- it's an important conversation. i am so glad that you are with us this morning to give your perspective. it's a very important perspective, professor. i do think -- and for a future conversation, this whole concept of that you can, for example, as a human being say that other human beings should not have the right to live, to exist, and an apology for that is an interesting concept. it's one that i'd like to have with you going forward. professor, i'm grateful for you today. >> i'm sorry, it was a grotesque statement, i have to get that in there today, grotesque and unrepresentative. >> how you then say i'm sorry

that i said that. >> apologies don't work anyway. >> that's true. >> hey, listen, it's been great chatting with you. i hope to continue our conversation going forward. appreciate it. >> that would be great, thanks a lot for having me. >> bruce robins, i appreciate it. while those protests continue across the u.s., overseas israel is concerned the international criminal court may soon issue arrest warrants for prime minister netanyahu and other senior military leaders according to an israeli official. the warrant could stem from the icc's investigation into the current war in gaza, which was first reported by "the new york times" citing five israeli and foreign officials, but the court has also been investigating conflicts between israel and hamas going forward to 2014. meanwhile, secretary of state antony blinken is in the region. he addressed netanyahu's plan to push into the southern gaza city of rafah. >> we've said clearly and for some time now on rafah that in the absence of a plan to ensure

that civilians will not be -- will not be harmed, we can't support a major military operation in rafah, and we have not seen a plan that gives us confidence that civilians can be effectively protected. >> raf sanchez is following all the developments from tel aviv. there's a lot going on today. what's the latest? >> there is a real sense of urgency about getting to the cease fire deal. an israeli official tells nbc news the current proposal on the table, the release of 33 hostages in the first stage of the deal in exchange for a temporary cease fire and the release of palestinian prisoners. those hostages would be from so-called humanitarian category, so that is women, children, the elderly, people with serious medical conditions. the number 33 is down from the

previous number of 40 because hamas has indicated it may not have 40 living hostages who fit that criteria. there is a delegation of hamas officials in cairo today speaking to egyptian mediators. an israeli official tells me an israeli team may head to the egyptian capital tomorrow depending on the progress, and secretary of state blinken is in saudi arabia earlier today. he described the offer on the table as incredible ri generous to hamas urging the militant group to go ahead and to accept it. hamas over the weekend releasing another hostage video, once again showing an american israeli hostage, keith seagle, the oldest american hostage still in captivity. hamas is framing this as a gesture of goodwill, a sign it is willing to negotiate. the israeli government seems at this point internally divided

over the prospects of this deal. some of the far-right members of prime minister netanyahu's cabinet saying israel should focus on attacking rafah, but some of the more moderate members including war cabinet minister benny gantz saying the priority right now needs to be bringing the hostages home and that rafah can wait. separately, an israeli official tells nbc news israel is deeply concerned that potentially as early as this week the international criminal court may issue arrest warrants for prime minister benjamin netanyahu, the israeli defense minister, and senior israeli military officials. this official says israel is waging a concerted diplomatic campaign to try to head off those warrants. now, if they are issued, it would not lead to the immediate arrest to prime minister netanyahu, but it could make it difficult for him to travel in europe and other places that are signatories to the icc, and it would put him in the unwelcome shared category as vladimir

putin who has his own arrest warrant for alleged war crimes committed in ukraine. we asked the icc about this claim. they said that while they do have an investigation open, they won't comment on potential arrest warrants. back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you so very much. joining us now from the white house is nbc's gabe gutierrez. good morning, the biden administration, has it said anything about this potential icc warrant? >> reporter: hi there, jose, good morning. the white house says that it believes that the international criminal court does not have jurisdiction here, and that officials here at the white house do not support this investigation. now, of course, jose, this comes as the administration tries to maintain that it supports israel. israel's government in an ironclad fashion, while at the same time trying to make the case that more humanitarian aid needs to get into gaza and also expressing its concerns about any potential military operations in rafah, jose. >> and president biden and prime

minister netanyahu spoke yesterday. can we get a readout on that conversation? >> yeah, that's right. they did speak yesterday. this is one of several times, of course, that they've spoken since the beginning of the israel-hamas war. those conversations throughout that time have gotten increasing ly tense. yesterday we're told that what really came up was that rafah was also the release of hostages as well, but the u.s. says that israel has assured the united states that it would give a heads-up to the u.s. to air any concerns and express its concerns before any potential invasion of rafah. but again, the president according to the readout of the call made clear the need for more humanitarian aid to get into gaza. that's something that secretary of state blinken reiterated today during his trip to saudi arabia. secretary blinken once again calling this an extraordinary generous deal that is on the table right now. he says that hamas, as raf

mentioned, needs to take this deal, jose. >> gabe gutierrez at the white house, thank you very much. up next, former president trump's criminal hush money trial resumes tomorrow, we'll tell you who we can be hearing from this week. plus, what we're learning about trump's private meeting with a former top are rival. and at least five people are dead including an infant after dozens of tornados tear a path of devastation. and the threat of severe weather is not over. we're back in just 60 seconds. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ée diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. it's time we all shine. talk to a healthcare provider about nurtec odt from pfizer.

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with us now to talk more about this, lisa rubin who has been in court every day of this trial, and jeff ja koeb vits, a defense attorney who represented three white house employees during the clinton presidency. lisa, who exactly is gary farro, and why is he important to this case? >> jose, that's the question on many people's list. gary farro is not a household name in trump world. he was michael cohen's banker at the now defunct first republic bank. michael cohen had maintained multiple accounts there over the years, but in october of 2016, he contacted gary farro and said he needed urgently to open a new account for a limited liability company he was starting. that's the company through which michael cohen made payments to stormy daniels after trump stalled so long that cohen became afraid that keith davidson, stormy daniels's lawyer and stormy daniels would either sell their story somewhere else or tell it somewhere else or both. therefore gary farro has a

number of email exchanges and communications with michael cohen that buttress his story about the payments to daniels. he also can testify to the fact that somebody at first republic flagged the transaction as suspicious and contacted the treasury department. "the wall street journal" reported that in 2018. to this day we don't know who at first republic was the person to lift up the phone and call the treasury department. perhaps gary farro can shed some light on that. >> do things seem to be moving faster than expected? >> i think the jury selection itself was faster than people expected, but certainly david pecker spent several days on the stand and there may be other witnesses who similarly have extended testimony. on one hand, yes. on the other hand, no. we're only three witnesses in, and tomorrow marking the beginning of the third week of the trial. let's see what happens this week and, in particular, how fast these witnesses move. gary farro shouldn't be on the

stand all that much longer. rhona graff also was a short witness. pecker took multiple days for his direct examination, cross, redirect, and then even a rekroz because there were so many efforts to try and both get good testimony out of him and then muddy the waters on the trump team's behalf. >> "the new york times" points out, quote, as the trial grinds on in the weeks ahead, legal experts said the defense team will need to walk a fine line to appease both of its audiences, 12 jurors and a singular defendant. what do you make of how donald trump's legal team has been handling things so far? >> they're trying to make it as if he really is an honorable man, and he didn't do, you know, anything wrong. this was in the opening argument. it almost sounded like we were watching noting hill and julia roberts. the important witness for them is michael cohen. he's subject to considerable cross examination based on his

conviction for perjury, and i think the witnesses we're seeing now and lisa has described who else we will be seeing are corroborating what michael cohen will be testifying about because this is a documents case as well and to prove the case, the underlying felonies, they have to introduce the documents that michael cohen will talk about, and that's why we have the banker on the stand now, and there will be others as well. >> and jeff, it's been almost a week since a judge held that first hearing on whether trump violated the partial gag order against him. the judge is scheduled to hold another hearing on this issue on thursday. why haven't we seen a decision yet, do you think? >> that's interesting because violations of the gag order continue to apparently occur, and so i think the judge will take them all at once. he's waiting, and the judge could easily defer his decision, and he can find donald trump, which would be negligible in terms of the impact, but what he can do is hold it over his head

and not completely say what he will do because he can lock them up for what he has said. he will not do it during the trial. he wants trump in court. it seems like trump is baiting him to be locked up. i don't think the judge will go for that. and he will hold it over his head until after the case is over. >> lisa, you've been in the court every day. what are some of the thoughts you have going into this new week of testimony? >> jose, one of the things i'm looking forward to most is just seeing who the prosecution's next witness is. usually in a case of this magnitude in particular, a d.a.'s office or a federal prosecutor's office might give the press an insight into who's coming along, but here where you've got a defendant who's facing not one, not two, but 14 separate alleged violations of a gag order, you've got also a prosecutorial team that is loathe to mention in advance who those witnesses are because they don't want to endanger those people, and so after gary farro

gets off the stand, and if i'm thinking about how the prosecutors are going to tel this story, this is primarily a documents case, and in particular about the cover-up of the campaign finance violations. i am going to be seeing those people likely in the weeks ahead. that's this back half of the story. i'm looking to see more witnesses about the conspiracy itself to subvert the election. and so i'm looking to see, for example, people like hope hicks who allegedly was at that first august 2015 meeting and maybe even keith davidson, stormy daniels and karen mcdougal's lawyer. >> lisa rubin jeff ja koeb vits, thank you both very much. till ahead, congress returns from a recess, a new warning for mike johnson from congresswoman marjorie taylor greene. and tornados hit the midwest. >> it honestly looked like

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funnel cloud caught on camera as it touched down in lincoln, nebraska. look at that. nbc's jesse kirsch joins us now from sulfur, oklahoma. how bad is the damage there? >> jose, it's pretty extensive in part oss >> jose, it's pretty extensive in part of this community. this is a small city in the historic downtown, which has been gutted by a twister. i'm going to move out of the frame here. we're going to push in behind it so you can see some of the devastation. you can see what appears to be a crumpled in roof, bricks are scattered across the ground and one window after the other is blown out and you can see the blinds that are hanging on by a thread in some situations. we were just in neighborhood, spoke with a woman who says her cousin and cousin's young baby were trapped inside their home, which was decimated by the twister. thankfully they survived and are okay, but they were trapped in there for a time.

it just speaks to, you know, the harrowing experiences of people in this community. we know unfortunately one person has died here in sulfur, three others have died elsewhere in the state of oklahoma including a 4-month-old infant according to officials. there was also a death in iowa in minden. we were in that small community over the weekend and spoke with a business owner from that community about the loss of much of his property and moving forward. here's part of what he shared with us. >> when something's that bad, you almost go a little bit numb. >> everybody that i spoke to that was over here and was able to see it from a distance, they could not get over how big and violent it was and the things they were seeing flying through the air. it makes you think, life's pretty precious. >> reporter: unfortunately, jose, there have been some lives lost across the country this weekend. >> what a tragedy. jesse kirsch, thank you very much. still ahead, why both the

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is expected on the campaign trail as he is also set to return to his ongoing criminal trial. trump will head to battleground michigan in wisconsin on wednesday when he is not inside the courtroom, as he looks ahead to the general election, trump met with a former opponent, florida governor ron desantis yesterday in an effort for the two to discuss fund-raising. joining us now, victoria defrancesco soto, dean of the clinton school of public service at the university of arkansas. she is an msnbc contributor, and lonnie chen, a former policy adviser to mitt romney's campaign, a hoover institution fellow and an msnbc contributor. how significant is this trump/desantis meeting do you think? >> it's not surprising, jose. i'm thinking back to the 2016 election when we saw just such an intense, ugly battle between ted cruz, the senator from texas and donald trump where really donald trump got very, very personal on attacking ted cruz,

his father, his wife, you name it, and then once the convention was over, they came together and ted cruz was out there supporting him and doing what he needed to do. so i was not surprised when we saw this with ron desantis, again, a very ugly battle between the two in the primary. but the difference being that desantis at the end of the day does owe where he is to trump and to that early endorsement when he first ran for governor. i think we're going to see a lot more of the same. ron desantis knows that his future, his political future and future beyond politics really lays in supporting donald trump in this moment. >> and lonnie, on topic of this meeting, "the washington post" reports, quote, trump's advisers hope desantis will tap his donor network to help raise significant sums of money for the general election people familiar with the matter said. in this particular moment, what does it mean for trump to come

to desantis in a time like this and who is the important player here? is it trump, or is it desantis? >> well, i think they mutually recognize the need here for former president trump and for his campaign. obviously one of the things that ron desantis was able to do well during his campaign is build a strong network of donors. and having ron desantis as a surrogate to help trump raise money is of significant importance. and as was noted earlier, i think for ron desantis some of his political future going forward will be dependent on the degree to which donald trump does or does not continue to attack him, even though ron desantis endorsed donald trump after leaving the race earlier this year, there's been some reported tension between the two, and i think having donald trump in his corner will be helpful for ron desantis in florida and perhaps beyond if he has national ambitions within the republican party.

so i think for both individuals, there is some benefit to this engagement. >> and lonnie, this comes as trump is going after independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. calling him a, quote wasted protest vote. the biden re-election campaign has built an operation dedicated to attacking rfk jr. what does this say about both sides that both sides are going after him? >> well, i think the first thing it says is we don't actually know what the impact will be, whether he hurts trump or biden more. we know from recent national survey research that he appears to be drawing more support from trump and from republicans, but there are other surveys and other pundits who speak about this who argue just the opposite is the case. what we do know is that rfk jr. is already on the ballot in michigan. they're likely to announce he's on the ballot in nevada. for both sides, this is not just about trying to get rid of a

little gadfly. this is a serious threat. i think both sides see the channel, and so as a result you see both sides paying significant amounts of attention. rfk jr. can swing the race in those two crucial states. that's why you see them drawing support away from him. >> yeah, and victoria, when we're talking about critical states, nbc latino reporting on the portion of new latino voters in the western u.s., which includes arizona and nevada. latinos make up four out of ten newly eligible voters. they make up 24% of new voters in the south, 19% in the northeast. are both campaigns aware of this and more than understanding the numbers, are they kind of digesting that and what that means? >> i hope so. and i think this is really what is necessary in terms of finally shedding that term of the

sleeping giant. we are not sleeping. we're here. it's just a matter of whether the campaigns really know how to connect with latino voters. latinos are the youngest demographic in the nation, it is imperative that they connect with them, and not just in these western states. yes, we have a large latino population in nevada and in arizona, both of these swing states, but to your point, we're also seeing rapidly growing segments within the southern and mid western united states. in these razor thin elections these votes are critical. regarding the double whammy of latinos being less likely to turn out to vote and young folks are less likely to turn out to vote, and we know that latino youth is that growing demographic. so the parties really need to focus on that mobilization. they can't assume that they're going to be turning out. they can't assume that they're

going to be registering to turn out. if anything, they should be assuming a standardized apathy among these young folks which we've seen in the polling, which we saw in the 2022 midterm election where turnout was down for youth. it needs to be an aggressive, concerted effort to get these voters out. what we know is once people start voting, they stay voters for life. >> victoria defrancesco soto and lanchee chen, thank you very much. >> thousands of people took to the street, many in support of the prime minister who last week announced through a letter that he was considering resigning because there's an issue with his wife. this is becoming kind of like the best of a telemundo telenovela. we're going to explain it to you when we come back. the prime minister today decided what his fate is going to be. you're watching "josé diaz-balart reports" on msnbc.

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consider whether to step down or not. joining us now from madrid, carlos, it's always a privilege to see you. can you give us a little bit of a broad understanding of what happened over the weekend and what this is all about? >> jose, thanks very much for your invitation. first of all, this is a very difficult issue to explain to a strategy from the president or a true personal issue. as you know, on wednesday he wrote a letter to everyone he published on the internet, on x, and he said he was thinking about resigning. the purpose, he said, was the attacks against his wife. it is true that she has been suffering many campaigns on the internet, some fake news, but it is also true that there are serious informations pointing to

some alleged conflicts of interest. last week the judge said he was willing to investigate. after that, the president wrote his letter and he locked himself for five days, he completely isolated from the rest of his team. he had no contact with anyone. that created a lot of uncertainty, and instability and a big crisis in the socialist party. everyone was very, very worried. they thought that he was going to resign, that the government would collapse, but today we found the opposite. he decided to come back stronger. that's what he said in his speech, and he says that he wants to push some reforms to fight fake news to fight hoaxes. the opposition is worried about that. push some reforms against judges, maybe against media. but nobody, the truth is that

this message from the president has been so ambiguous that, we'll have to wait to see what he proposes. >> yeah, and so carlos, for people outside of spain, why is this relevant? what implications could this have going forward? what's next, carlos? >> that are going to take place on may the 12th, maybe they will find a stronger winning there from the socialists, but after that it's difficult to find -- in the long run, there many doubts and fears about what he has in mind, what these reforms mean, if he changes the judicial elite, he will need the support of the opposition that looks impossible right now. if he has no support from the opposition, he will have to change the law, and in the

european union, they don't like this thing, they don't want to change the law. they have been telling him in the past this this is not a goo choice. and if you decide to take some action against media or against free speech, you know, this is a very, very strong. what happened is difficult to find. it's true in many western countries, here in spain, it's been getting worse and worse, but nobody explain this. >> carlos, i can't tell you how, what a privilege it is for me to be able to speak with you. they're very fortunate to have you, as are all of us to look up to and learn from. carlos, thank you. >> thank you so much, jose. >> thanks. up next, the house returns today after a brief recess with no major deals to hammer out or critical deadlines to hit. will republicans turn their attention to their speaker and his future? you're watching jose diaz-balart

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speaker johnson pushed through the foreign aid package this month may still face a challenge to the speakership. by marjorie taylor greene. ryan, good morning. where do things stand now? >> reporter: marjorie taylor greene doesn't appear to be backing down, jose. over the weekend, she posted on x. her dismay about the future u.s. involvement in the situation with ukraine and russia, subjecting perhaps that ukraine was setting up for a long-term investment from the united states and that mike johnson was complicit in these future plans. she said that as a result in her mind, his days as speaker are numbered. even though she can start this process on her own, she can't remove him from the speakership

on her own. there is at least some hint that at this point, it may be a lot more difficult to remove mike johnson from the speakership than it was removing kevin mccarthy. first of all, there wasn't as much personal animus towards johnson. democrats may come to his rescue just to allow him to opportunity to get over this hump and isolate that right wing just to prevent the chaos that we saw play out last fall. there's a lot of incentive to do that on both sides, jose. many of the biggest legislative accomplishments have been cleared from the board. they have a spending plan in place until september. that aid package is all taken care of. there are still some things that need to be done, but as of right now, many members of congress would prefer not to deal with the drama. >> to wrap things up this hour, one more thing i want to show

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