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breaking news overnight, iran state media confirms the death of the country's president and its foreign minister in a helicopter crash. we'll have a live report for the latest details and get expert analysis on the geopolitical implications.
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also ahead, donald trump's hush money trial resumes today in new york city. we'll have a preview of what could be the final week in court. plus, we'll have some of the highlights from president biden's commencement speech at morehouse college where he attempted to thread the needle on several issues connected to his re-election campaign. ♪♪ good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this monday, may 20th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day and week with us, and we will begin with significant breaking news. iran state media is reporting that the nation's president and foreign minister have died in a helicopter crash. search teams arrived at the site of what was originally called a hard landing, and they found no sign of life. according to a news outlet affiliated with the iranian
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government, seven other officials were on board the aircraft at the time of the accident. the "associated press" cites iranian state tv is giving no immediate cause for the crash, although, weather could be a factor. the group was returning from an event near iran's border with azerbaijan when the helicopter went down. heavy fog prevented search and rescue-teams from finding the wreckage for hours. a hard-line conservative within the iranian political landscape, the president, raisi, has been iran's leader since 2021. joining us now, nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel live from europe. richard, tell us, what's the latest we know here about the cause of the crash and tell us a little bit more about the man who died. >> reporter: so what we know is from iranian state media that
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there was this trip meeting with officials in azerbaijan in the border area. this is a mountainous area in northern iran covered in forests. there were, according to iranian state media, three helicopterers traveling together. one of them went down carrying the iranian president raisi and other officials. they initially said it was a hard landing. there was quite a bit of skepticism, however, when images of the area started to emerge, totally blanketed in fog. generally helicopter crashes don't end well, don't end with survivors in the mountains, in the forests with those kinds of conditions. then for the your night period in iran, there was quite a bit of silence. people were anticipating that iran was going to be making an announcement. the anchors of state television started wearing black. there was the presumption that
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soon they would be announcing that he had died, and a relatively short while ago, because this is now about 167 hours or so since it happened, so quite a few hours passed before they made the announcement that they did not find survivors among the wreckage. it causes short-term problems for iran, but more importantly, it raises some serious succession issues about the iranian regime because president raisi was, as you mentioned, a hard-liner, but he was also very likely tapped to be the next supreme leedser in iran, and iran doesn't function -- iran is a theocracy. it's opinion in power since 1979. they threw out thousand ofts years of dynasties,
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bureaucracies, and shaws. the second ayatollah is 85 years old and raisi was widely anticipated to replace him. a man who was in his 60s. who could have been lead eig ran in the ultimate position of power for the next two decades, and now he died in this helicopter crash. so they have two immediate problems. one, to replace the president. technically the vice president steps in and should hold new elections within the next 50 days, but the president is not the one who wields the power. the main decisions in the country are with the supreme leader, and he was being graumed to be the supreme leader, raising real questions about the future of rule in that country, could it expedite more power being -- could we start seeing
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more power being wielded by the revolutionary guard as some analysts and intelligence officials believe we should watch this internal space. they to not expect to see any major changes in policy, that the basic positions of iran, which are three and have been fixed for the last several decades will not change, and those three core principles of iran being that israel should be replaced with palestine, that the united states should be driven out of the middle east, and the u.s.-led world order should be overturned and iran needs to make allies with whoever is on that page, including iran or maduro, or a host of others. so they do not expect those three basic principles of iran is going to change, but it does create a leadership crisis, which could potentially even threaten clerical rule at the expense of seeing a more
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traditional manner with the military stepping in. >> the world is certainly watching what happens here. nbc news chief correspondent richard engelle. thank you. we'll see you again very shortly on "morning joe." we'll have complete coverage of iran's president's death here on msnbc and including here on "way too early." for now we want to turn to matters here at home. the trump hush money trial will resume today for what could be the final day of testimony. court's scheduled to begin early at 8:45 a.m. michael cohen is expected to return to the stand for a third days of cross-examination. they say it will be the final day of questioning him. the prosecution has already confirmed cohen is its final witness and will likely rest their case after his testimony is complete. they focused thursday's cross compassion on a key 2016 call
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where cohen said he spoke directly to trump about the hush money payment to stormy dabbials. the lawyer pressed him, bringing up an exchange he had with trump's former bodyguard which seemed to be about a prank caller, not stormy daniels. cohen insisted he spoke about both things dae spite the short conversation, about a minute and a half. last week lawyers for the former president were still unsure whether trump would testify even though he's publicly said he would like to. they always said they may not call any other witnesses. judge merchan told them to be ready tomorrow if both sides rest. joining us now, a former district attorney in machblts thank you for being with us this
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morning. so first let's start here. if you were prosecuting this case, would you redirect michael cohen once the defense was done with him? would the effort here to be to clear up some of the story after cross-examination, or just let it be? >> i would redirect only because of what happened on thursday about that phone call that he testified on my direct examination that he made and had a conversation with donald trump about stormy daniels, and on cross-examination, the jury is left with that he lied, that he really didn't talk about stormy daniels. he was talking about this 14-year-old who was doing crank calls. now, he either was mistaken, which is probably what happened, or hi was untruthful. so if i'm the prosecutor and i believe it's mistaken, i want the jury to know he was mistaken. you know, he spoke to -- he, meaning mr. cohen, multiple times to donald trump.
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it is likely he is mistake p. i wouldn't spend a lot of time with him because the defense would do redirect or recross. the prosecutors would have proven beyond a reasonable doubt. so i expect they will today, the prosecutors say, the people rest. >> so, catherine, let's talk about the biggest question, the idea of trump taking the stand. he said he'd like to. what do you think? do you think he'll do so? >> no, one, i would tell him not to do so if i was his attorney. two, i don't believe he will. most defendants do not testify.
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this defendant won't. it would be ridiculous if he did. it would be a gift to the prosecution. they also should not call defense witnesses. once they call defense witnessesing its opens the door for the prosecution to talk about the defense witnesses. if the defendant doesn't testify and the defense doesn't call witnesses, the prosecutors can't talk about it at all. if they call witnesses, the prosecution can say, look at the witnesses they called. they were incredible. they probably thought about it over the weekend and won't call witnesses. we'll see. if they don't, there will be closing arguments today starting with the defense and ending with the prosecution. >> thank you for joining us. we'll talk to you again soon. still ahead here on "way too early," president joe biden delivers the commencement
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address at morehouse college. we'll take a look at what he had to say there. plus, former president trump makes a pitch to gun owners at a massive nra event. those stories and the helicopter crash and a check on sports and weather when "way too early" returns. s and weather when "way too early" returns. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. ♪ ♪ i got the power of 3. i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it.
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i promise you i hear them. >> president joe biden delivered the commencement address yesterday at morehouse college. this was his most direct engagement yet with college students since the start of the israel/hamas war. a few protests -- few students did protest the speech by turning their backs to the stage, but they were isolated incidents and no irinterruptions. the president told graduates at the historic black school he was still working toward a cease-fire with the war between israel and gaza. and he talked about the extreme forces that threaten the soul of the nation. >> i never thought i would be a president at a time when there's a national effort to ban books
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been no president since abraham lincoln that's done more for the black individual in this country than president donald j.trump, nobody, not even close. >> fact-check, not true. still ahead here w we'll turn to sports and bring you the latest playoff action in both the nhl and nba, in a weekend filled with game seven drama, including the defending champion denver nuggets fighting to stay alive in their push for repeat. plus, we'll show you if the new york knicks put an end to the pacers' dream season. all that and a check on the forecast when we come right back. forecast when we come right back mike is still living in the red. with a very high risk of another heart attack or stroke. he doesn't know with his risk factors his ldl-c (bad cholesterol) is still too high -
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schaeffler's suv when he was stopped outside of the course on friday morning. louisville mayor admitted they did not have body camera footage. schauffele has been telling nbc news there have been discussions about the charges being dropped. he's scheduled for a virtual arraignment scheduled for tomorrow morning. time now for the weather. let's go to michelle grossman with a monday morning forecast. how does it look? >> it looks a lot like last week. we're looking at severe weather throughout the week, monday, tuesday, wednesday, thursday. we're looking at millions under the threat for severe storms. we're looking at supreme heat from portions of the southwest all the way to the northeast. we're looking at ten states that could break records. and back behind this, we're talking spring snow. so as far as that severe weather goes, we've been watching storms all night long into the rp early
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survivors. the country's cabinet has appointed a new foreign minister. joining us now, nbc news chief international correspondent keir simmons. also with us, retired cia officer marc polymeropoulos. he's an nbc news and security and intelligence analyst. marc, let's talk about you. what do we know about the crash and please talk about the implications of these deaths? >> well, in terms of the cause, we did hear from the iranians early on initially. the iranian interior minister was saying there was a hard landing last night due to fog. certainly from the pictures you can see there's a lots of fog in that region, that it is mountainous, that those are the pictures of the rescue effort.
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the actual rescue itself took hours, hampered by those conditions. that is going to be the primary focus, the, if you like, the chief suspect in terms of what the cause of this crash might be. and then in terms of the implications, well, listen, this is a region in the middle eeftd known for conspiracy theories, known for finger pointing. there will be that aspect to it. in fact, the senate majority leader overnight racing to indicate his information from yourself intelligence, saying that there is no nefarious involvement by one of iran's enemies and what happened this. what we have seen is messages of condolences from countries that consider themselves partners of iran, those on the fence, that
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even some countries, frankly, do not. so president putin striking raisi as a very, very good politician. president xi in china talking about him as a good friend. and other countries like turkey, many in the middle east who have relations with iran, in the same reen. much shorter messages from the europeans, but western capitals will be watching right now because the question really is going to be how much instability does this bring to iran at a time in this region. president raisi was talked about as a possible successful to the supreme leader. he is 85. who will that person be now? we know as you mentioned who the replacement is in the immediate term, but in the long term, what this means for iran and,
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therefore, what it means for this region and this world. that is a larger question. >> nbc's keir simmons live from the gulf region. thank you so much. we'll see you again on "morning joe" in just a bit. this comes -- this crash comes as a really fraught moment and just a few weeks after a real exchange of hostilities between iran and israel. certainly there's a lot of speculation that, you know, iran would point fingers at us real for what happened here. at least at this point that has. occurred. talk a little more about how dangerous and delicate all this is. >> good morning, jon. mondays on wpt weather means a lot occurring and lots to talk about. the intelligence will be asked a simple question, does this matter in terms of iran foreign policy. remember, iran foreign policy has been against u.s. personal
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interest including proxies helping to kill americans. the bottom line is raisi, who it would sound like had a very important role as president. he actually was not commander in chief. that was khamenei. they don't even report to the iranian president. it's status quo. it's going to continue. that's going to be the big question. on the other hand, in terms of domestically, this will be interesting. i think this is where the analysts will take a very close look. there will be an election within 50 days. there will be some kind of jockeying. bottom line, i think what would be critical, certainly not any kind of expression of condolences but for the iranian people who have suffered under ricy and his brutal crackdown over a number of year ts.
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this comes at a time there's a war in rafah and a real invasion of rafah could happen more or less at any time, jake sullivan in the region now. give us a sense of how it may atact things this. >> to change. . that's going to be something that, of course, the intelligence community will be monitoring. but i don't think they're going to challenge anything. iran is still an adversary, someone to be attended with. next up here, we'll go live to cnbc for an early look on what's driving wall street after a week that ended high, the dow clearing 40,000. we'll be right back with that. w clearing 40,000. we'll be right back with that.
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welcome back. donald trump says he'll roll back national gun laws passed by the biden administration if he were to retalk the white house in january. speaking at the nra's annual convention, which was held saturday in dallas, trump vowed to kill the dreams of, quote, radical gun grabbers. take a look. >> we will roll back every biden attempt on the attack of the
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first amendment. it's fast and furious. we'll do that as quickly as biden is out of the white house. gun grabbers will run into a very, very powerful brick wall. the dreams of tanging away your god-givingen rights will die when the polls close on november 5th 20rks 24. those dreams that they have will be dead. that i will be dead dreams. >> also in that speech, trump once again claimed that the 2020 election was stolen from him and suggested if elected in november, it would actually be his third term in office. >> fdr, 16 years. almost 16 years. he was full term. i don't know. are we going to be considered three term or two term, what do you think? are we three-term or two-term? >> o'tiemts trump suggested he will run again in 2028. joining us now of the fast
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politics podcast, molly jones fast. thank you for being here this morning. it's a false election claim yet again. that comes with the tyer wf donald trump. it's interesting he chose to go to the nra, a company that's weaker but still carries cachet. give us an assessment of what you heard this week on the rare campaign trail? >> we were just talking about this on a break. the nra is not as powerful as it once was, but it does vice signaling, which is what he so wants to do, i'm your gun president. i do these things which are sort of considered to be very base. the think the fact that he's going to stay for a third term, he's telling us what he's going to do when he gets in office. he's going to shred the
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constitution. i do love that he compares himself to fdr. that was a bit of a stretch. >> it was a banner day. >> yes. right. just like lincoln. >> let's turn to president biden. earlier we played some of his speech to morehouse college. there was a lot of anxiety as to how this would go. it was his first commencement speech since the gaza war and the first since the protests on college campuses a few weeks back. a handful of students respectfully protested and there were fewer protests than expected that i thought it went really well. biden knows they need to reach out to black voters. he said, which i thought was great, you have every right to protest and they did and were respectful and peaceful. look, you have a guy who says
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you have every right to peaceful protest or you have this other guy about donald trump who jokes about locking them up, roughing them up, this is a binary choice. biden did a good job. he said he wants the war to end right away, which i think all of us do. he's doing the hard work to win hearts and minds. >> of course, the middle east more unstable following the president's death yesterday. so, molly, this comes as you say this comes as the president focused black voters. in this speech yesterday it's about black voters and young voters. these are two groups he's really struggling with. do you see him doing enough at this moment in the race? >> we're at 168 days until the election, so he has time. so he's focused.
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look, this is a very focused campaign. thisis like one of these boring campaigns where they go to pennsylvania for three days in a row and michigan for three days in a row. they're very organized. they have money. they're opening field offices. they're doing this my knew shah which you do at a campaign. he's sitting there while his former fixer testifies on him. >> cohen pack on the stand today. we may have a verdict by week's end. >> yeah. a verdict by week's end. >> yeah.
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welcome back. at a campaign rally in minnesota on friday, donald trump had some trouble with his podium. >> terrible. but americans are not struggling. you know, this is the worst platform. who put this stage up? this is the worst -- the fricken place is falling down. >> lost his balance, caught himself, and blamed bad contract work. it is a setup of a product he'd refuse to foot the bill for. no kidding. the biden campaign called trump
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out for something he mocks the current president for. quote, "a feeble trump nearly falls down on stage after he leans on his podium too hard and then goes on an angry rant calling his event workers crappy." it did seem the platform was a little suspect. joining us now, jonathan allen, politics reporter. we'll set the podium aside, but let's talk about where the podium was, minnesota. which is interesting. it is a state, as notd before the break, hasn't gone republican in a long time. trump lost it twice. to be fair, relatively close last time around. it shares demographics with the blue wall states he did win back in 2016. talk to us about the state of play in minnesota. >> yeah, this is kind of been the white wail for trump. he came up a few points short last time around. looked at minnesota again, wanted to campaign there. i think he feels like when he goes to minnesota, he gets a pretty good reception.
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ended up losing by seven points there last time. of course, politics aren't static. each election is different, and he is spending time there. part of the reason is he has internal polling which shows him running pretty close, neck and neck, with biden there. if you expand it out to multiple candidates, also a very close race, according to the trump internal polling. there's not a lot of public polling in minnesota, but this is why you're seeing trump go there. and i should note, the biden campaign, when trump came in there last week, they brought out some of their heavy surrogates, some of their big-time surrogates. they brought in the governor, waltz, and senator schmidt to counter what trump is doing. they say they don't have a problem, they'll win minnesota, and at the same time, it is clear they're trying not to take it for granted. >> it is all about getting the 270 electoral college votes and trump trying to build more pathways to it. the states he's appearing to try to flip red, minnesota and
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virginia. there is skepticism whether he can do that. for president biden, florida, a long shot, but north carolina looms as one that a lot of dems think could really be in play this time around, particularly because of the problematic gop gubernatorial candidate. looking at the map, who has more pathways to winning? >> it is definitely that there are more pathways for donald trump to win. that doesn't mean he is more likely to win. that is to say, there are more states that are available to him that were close last time that could be flipped to try to get to the 270 electoral votes. the reason for that, of course, is that joe biden won those states last time. had donald trump won re-election and won, you know, arizona and georgia and michigan and wisconsin by small amounts, it'd be the democrats that have more pathways. simply a function of who won a bunch of states by a close margin last time, but there are more routes for donald trump to get there. that doesn't necessarily mean he
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has a better chance of winning. the democrats still have, if you look at michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, nebraska's second congressional district, they have a pretty, you know, solid path there, plus some of the others. you know, again, more pathways for trump, but not necessarily meaning he'll win. >> take us deeper into the numbers. polls show president biden's struggles with young voters, black voters, latino voters, where he is hemorrhaging support. also state-specific polls that show americans aren't blaming donald trump necessarily for overturning roe v. wade. i know some democrats really angry about that in texts i got in the last 24 hours or so. where do you think things stand right now on the key, under the hood issues? >> it's a close race, and i think on these issues, a lot of voters haven't tuned in yet. it is hard to imagine any voter who spent any time with the issue or just watched television the last couple of years not knowing why re versus wade was
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overturned, not knowing who appointed the supreme court justices and who had that as a litmus test, whether they'd overturn roe. some polls show some are unaware of that, and democrats need a better way to communicate. >> biden's fear of the case, as you said, americans simply not paying attention yet. they agree to the early debate to force americans to pay attention, some say, and realize they might be staring at four more years of donald trump. jonathan allen, thank you, as always. we appreciate it. thanks to all of you for get ing up "way too early" with us on this monday morning. a jam-packed "morning joe" starts right now. president biden and president trump have agreed to two debates this summer. for a preview of the debates, take a bottle of ambien and adderall at the same time. biden posted a video challenging trump saying, "make my day, pal." trump responded, "let's get
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