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texas senate candidate colin allred gets tonight's last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight nikki haley falls in line and says she will vote for donald trump, but will her
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supporters follow? plus, trump's dangerous lie. what he is saying about president biden and the fbi. in another january 6th flag? the provocative symbol at justice alito's beach house as the 11th hour gets underway this wednesday night. good evening once again, i am stephanie ruhle. back in new york city, and we are now 166 days away from the election. this is the week that the former president, who is now on trial in new york, was also supposed to be on trial in florida in the classified documents case. donald trump is charged with 37 counts related to mishandling sensitive material, including willful recension of national defense information and obstruction. his co-defendants are loyal aid.
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judge aileen cannon who has been very friendly to donald trump has put the case on hold indefinitely. but today she was on the bench with two major hearings from the defense to dismiss the case, and no surprise, things got heated when the first hearing turned into a shouting match between the lawyer on the special prosecutor, jack smith's team, and a defense attorney. a lawyer for trump aid nauta assess the claim against his client is addictive and that is why we claim should be dismissed. the prosecutor pushed back, calling that garbage. the judge has yet to issue a ruling. this all comes just one day after key court records were unsealed, appearing to show new evidence of obstruction. those records included new justice department photos showing trump defendant walt nauta, the one who says this is vindictive, physically moving boxes of documents around the property. with that, let's get smarter with the help of our leadoff
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panel tonight. special correspondent for vanity fair and in him is in bc contributor. dave ehrenberg joins us, state attorney for palm beach county. and former federal prosecutor and senior writer for political magazine. dave, florida is your home state. talk us through it. because the documents trial was originally supposed to start this past monday, and the judge is still holding hearings on whether it will ever happen. talk about what happened in court today, and why things got so heated so quickly. >> stephanie, there is a dispute over whether the lawyer for nauta was offered a judicial position, and it was tanked by the federal government. because his client did not comply. so this is a real personal dispute between the lawyer for nauta and the prosecution. but in the end, this stuff really is exactly what the government says it is. garbage. because these are delay tactics.
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most judges would have just dismissed this stuff out of hand . prosecutors have a lot of leverage on how they can compel people to testify or at least cut deals with them, but judge cannon has been slow walking this case from the beginning. judge cannon has given all the delay tactics, and it is so frustrating. because most other judges would either dismiss this or just hold a hearing and combine all the motions into one. she just does one hearing at a time, and she is doing something that other judges would never do. she is all alone in the satellite courthouse in fort pierce. that is part of the problem. there is no adult supervision there. so she is giving and all of trump's requests. this is paralysis by analysis. this is the latorre purgatory. and it is so frustrating for all of us. >> you agree with that? these motions have been piling up for months.
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she keeps saying she needs time to do with this. has she figured out how to kick the can down the road without getting kicked off the case herself? >> you know, it is sort of an enduring mystery whether she is doing this deliberately, in some people's estimation, or, i sort of am inclined towards she is not quite experienced enough to be handling a case like this. maybe it's sort of feeling a little uncomfortable operating under the glare of the spotlight. the upshot is the same, though. this case, i never really thought, had much of a strong chance of going to trial before november, even when it was initially brought. these are colligative cases. but dave is exactly right. some of these arguments, including the one about this potential enticement to stay in woodward, to get his client to cooperate, that allegation has been in the air for a couple of years now. it has never made much sense. i have never found it credible. even if it were true, i don't think it would provide a legal basis to dismiss the charges as woodward has been claiming. so i share the view that some of these arguments are getting
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much too much attention. >> does jack smith have any recourse? >> i mean, he has the same sort of recourse that people have been batting around for a while, which is if the ruling is bad enough, maybe he tries to take it of the 11th circuit and try to get across. i never saw those sorts of tactics had much chance of success, and more likely than not they would just annoy her and potentially even the appeals court. i think for better or worse, jack smith and his team of prosecutors are largely going to be stuck dealing with her for the foreseeable future. in less trump gets re-elected, and just kills the case. >> molly, what do you think? there is no sign of a trial date. she seems to be doing everything donald trump would love for her to do. do you think it is innocent? do you think she is just down there in a satellite court by herself? >> i think ultimately she is auditioning for the supreme court. she thinks that if trump gets re-elected she will be
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justice cannon. and we have heard trump world say as much. look, she is totally delaying. and this is a good case. if it had not ended up on her docket, it could've been a real case. so i do think that this is not innocent. i don't know why, i feel like everyone is addicted to giving these trump people the benefit of the doubt. why? we have seen how mega behaves. >> i answer that? there are much easier ways to kill this case if she was trying to get on the supreme court. she could dismiss the charges. she can entertain more seriously some of these issues. she can grant the judiciary hearing that stanley woodward asked for today which would embarrass the prosecutors. >> but hold on, if she does things like that, hold on. if she does things like that, can't the prosecution appeal, it go to the higher court, and the higher court says no, she is completely out of line,
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which is what they did a year and a half ago? dave? >> yes, i think it's a good point, but i agree with you, stephanie. if she goes too far and gives the final order dismissing this, then jack smith has the excuse to go to the 11th circuit and get it not only reversed but removed from this case. she doesn't want that. she has already been repudiated by the conservative 11th circuit a year ago. she does not want to be publicly humiliated again. so she is doing just enough to delay without being able to be appealed and taken off this case. >> i mean, the supreme court is still the conservative majority. if she dismissed the case and whatever the 11th circuit were to do that, ultimately, the supreme court would get to weigh in. again, they are just mechanisms here that i think are readily available to her if she really did want to take this case more aggressively. >> let's talk about these new court documents that were unsealed yesterday.
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plus i got these new images the government says our wallet nauta moving boxes around mar- a-lago not long after the subpoena was issued two years ago. why is this so important for jack smith's case if this case oversees the light of day? >> this is obstruction. and they actually had the temerity today to claim at least wallet nauta did that is elective prosecution. why is he the only one who moved oxus was being prosecuted for exit there, you see why. he is the one on tape. people lie, but video does not. he also lied under oath. this is all really important, and goes to why it is ridiculous to even have these hearings in front of judge cannon. let's move forward with this case. as ankush says , this is the best case they have against donald trump. >> new topic. let's talk about the new york case. judge merchan told lawyers he will get them a final version of jury instructions tomorrow. how crucial are these
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instructions of the outcome of the case, and can any of the lawyers object? >> well, the time for objecting to the instructions, that happen. they had a charge conference earlier this week. there have been all sorts of behind-the-scenes exchanging of drafts, that normally in federal courts is public. we haven't really seen that, it has been sort of obscured from public view. but in this case i think the instructions are extremely important, actually. there are quite a few issues that are sort of novel, if you will, it does not mean they are improper, but issues that the parties are sort of confronting for the first time, and they have been looking at different types of legal authority trying to make their case. these are not charges, at least on the facts here, where the lawyers can just take a jury instruction from a handbook like they might normally do. particularly on the question of what trump's intent needs to be in order to be convicted on these charges, what it means to have the intent to commit
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another crime, something still, as we are talking right now, is an issue the judge has not resolved yet. but it is critical he important for how the party structured there's closing arguments and what the jurors ultimately do. >> molly, i always want you to join our show, but tonight it was physically to talk about this. you know what i did not see today? i did not see very many headlines that said donald trump won't take the stand after promising to do so. day after day. after his surrogates went on tv and said he's going to take the stand. he wants to take the stand. he did say this after all of this, though. just watch this. >> because he made rulings that makes it very difficult to testify. anything i did, anything i did in the past, they can bring everything up. and you know what? i've had a great past. but anything. but the other thing, and the main reason, and i don't even mind that. as a matter fact, i like talking about it because we had rigged cases.
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>> so, aside from serving word salad at trump tower today, what do you make of this? >> he has had a lot of different, you know, he said i can't testify because of the gag order, which is totally not true. then the judge said no, you can testify, the gag order has nothing to do with this. look, this is what happens with trump. he says i'm going to do it, i'm going to do it. we all knew he probably wasn't going to do it because it would hurt him. and then now we have people have amnesia when it comes to donald trump. no one is saying he said he was going to do it and he lied about reasons why he couldn't do it, and in the end he gave this nonsensical answer. by the way, this reminds me of the bible verse, like the guilty plea where no man pursues. >> let's talk about next week. the trial is on pause after the holiday weekend. how big of a challenge is it to get both sides ahead of these closing arguments? right now we have these days
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were theoretically the jury is not thinking about the case, and everybody has to get right on the ball come tuesday? >> yes, but the jury has to have, as a lasting impression, the testimony of robert costello. talk about an enormous blunder. right wing media urged trump and his team to put this guy on the stand, and it blew up in their face. and that is a lasting impression i think the jurors will have over this long weekend. they are going to remember how the judge they light, judge merchan who they bonded with was irritated by the antics of this guy. and then this guy on the stand during cross-examination was shown to be a shill for trump. someone like a mafia lawyer. and it is going to look really bad. any goodwill that todd blanche had developed with the jurors, because he did score some points against michael cohen, i think was totally undone by robert costello. he is the best witness the prosecution could ask for. >> i can't let you go without asking about this. new reporting today on justice samuel alito. the new york times says another
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provocative flag was found flying outside his beach house, a flag that was also carried by a bunch of january 6th rioters. of course, last week the times reported on an upside down american flag in his virginia home. i mean, he lives where i live, on the jersey shore. a quiet, sleepy, he lives in a fishing village, basically. and they are hanging this outside their house? what is your take? >> when you listen to alito at oral arguments, the stuff he says, these guys, alito and thomas belong on newsmax. and they are not thurgood marshall's. they really are. and i think mike johnson also had this flag outside his office. >> but mike johnson is a republican. mike johnson is a republican far right member of congress. we are talking about a supreme court justice. >> it is beyond the pale. and this flag signifies a more christian nation, i mean, it
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has a whole bunch of things about it that are not anything you would want a judge to be excited about. and then, of course, he has a beach house. which, you know, alito has a beach house and thomas have an rv and everyone is living it up . >> okay, but we know nothing about he didn't get it in an appropriate way, there were no big donors. >> but there is a second place to hang in an appropriate flag. >> you know, though, all great americans might like the jersey shore. she just used this as a chance to dog on new jersey. i regret her joining us tonight. thank you so much, molly, i'm still thinking about it. when we return, and another dangerous lie, how donald trump twisted the standard fbi policy and claimed it is proof of an assassination attempt. this is serious stuff. we have a serious guest. former fbi director james comey
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is here. and later, with trump, nikki haley swore she would never kiss the ring. so naturally, now she is saying she is going to vote for him. our question, will her supporters fall in line, too? the 11th hour just getting underway on wednesday night. i think they will. you don' so, here's to now. boost.
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donald trump is out with a dangerous new line about the 2022 search of his mar-a-lago resort. it involves an fbi document from before the surge that had a standard reminder about the rules of deadly force. well, on tuesday trump blasted an email to supporters claiming that the doj was authorized to use deadly force against him and that president biden himself was, quote, locked and loaded. obviously that is not what the fbi document said, in fact, the fbi chose a night when donald trump was not even going to be there to ensure that there was no chance of confrontation. but fax never seem to matter in trump world. james comey was fbi director until donald trump fired him in 2017. his new crime novel, westport is out now. it is hard to write a fiction novel, because nonfiction is crazier than fiction these days. i want to start with this news. what makes a lie like this so dangerous?
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thank you for being here. >> sure, it is great to be here. if you try to write some of the center novel your editor would say stop, stop. what makes it so dangerous is it is a lie about the fbi's use of its most important authority, which is deadly force. it is a corrosive lie about an organization that has to be trusted across the political spectrum. >> on our show we have been focusing a lot on project 2025. it is this road map for a trump presidency if he wins. and i want to share one passage where it talks about what they want to do at the fbi. the director must remain politically accountable to the president in the same manner as the head of any other federal department or agency. what do you think about that? >> i don't know what that means. i mean, literally, the director sits within the director branch, reports to the attorney general. i tried to explain this to donald trump when we had dinner
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together at his invitation in my first week. and i tried to explain to him that it is really important for the fbi to be legally in the department but not be part of the president's political team. so the political account ability language makes me think we are back to the dinner. >> you said this before or after you are trying to hide yourself behind the curtain? that is one of my favorite anecdotes. people like you are sounding the alarm of what could happen if donald trump wins again, but there are plenty of people out there that are kind of ignoring these warnings, not taking them seriously, saying the institution always holds. why do you think people are not listening? >> i think people are always busy. they are living their lives. but they are also a bit numb. they have heard so many lies, some exaggerations, so many distortions that they are sort of shutting it out, that it is really important over the next months the people not allow themselves to be low information voters and to stare at what the real threat is. >> next week the jury is going
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to get the case in donald trump's new york criminal trial. we are going to get averted. about the election interference case and the classified documents case will not be making trial before americans cast their votes. what is your take away own all of this? the charges, the trials? >> i am surprised that the new york trial is the one that went. i think it has been a great civics lesson for americans. i hope they have been paying attention. because this is how it works. you might not lose supporters by shooting someone in the middle of fifth avenue, but you will be held accountable. and this is what it looks like. you sit there and shut up. and we protect the jury and we present evidence in a certain way. so that is been great. the delays in the federal cases are frustrating, as he talked about with your earlier guests, the delays before the case are really hard to explain. i don't attribute them necessarily to malevolence, but it is extraordinary incompetence. the january 6th case, i get what the supreme court is wrestling with a harder question there. what should the scope of immunity be for future presidents? because god for bid joe biden loses, we are going to want to know what that answer is.
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>> last week mitt romney told me that joe biden should not have allowed any of this circus to happen. he said yes, donald trump nolte of all these things but that is beside the point. joe biden should have pushed the department of justice and pardoned trump. >> look, that is not a crazy thing to suggest, because it is insistent with counterinsurgency strategy. you need to get the radicalize or office center stage so that the radicalize can find their way out of the fog. and if you give him center stage, like he gets every day in new york, that makes it hard to hulu country. we have given the crimes and the statutes at play and the facts, we would not be a nation governed by the rule of law if you've done that. >> from a law enforcement perspective, how concerned are you, on a scale of 1 to 10, about political violence in our country surrounding the election? >> about a nine, with respect to individual violence. about a two with respect to group violence. >> what would you call january 6th?
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>> group violence. >> and you are only a two? >> yeah, because we as a law enforcement community have scared the crap out of the people who might be tempted to do that. those people are not looking to die for the orange god. they are people with jobs, people with families. misguided people, but they could be deterred and have been deterred. that is why there is no crowd in lower manhattan. >> he is claiming that his supporters want to come down there but lower manhattan is shut down. it is absolutely not. i took a cab to the front door of the courthouse, and people were just roaming around freely. it is an out and out lie. >> their families are just telling them don't get mixed up in some business to get you locked up. and that is an important message to send. it does not mean that individual poll workers and people like that are not justifiably afraid of the wing nuts threatening them. but i am not worried about another january 6th. >> you spend most of your adult life focused on the bad guys and locking them up. what made
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you decide to change your tune and now write about them in a fictional world? >> i was pushed to do it by one of my nonfiction editors, and i found it addictive. because i'm still thinking about the bad guys, but i have the freedom to make it up, to take readers into places that i can show them through the vehicle of fiction. and it is kind of fun. and i keep it current, because my kids are in law enforcement. so i check with them and say have i got this right? and they will tell me. >> do you miss it? >> i miss the people. i miss the work. i don't miss the political nonsense. i miss the quality and character of the people of the fbi. >> is a great way to end this. thank you so much for joining me, i appreciate it. his new novel is out now. westport, perfect time. when we come back, nikki haley said donald trump was unstable and unhinged. but apparently those are qualities she is looking for in a president. her surprise endorsement when the 11th hour continues.
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>> he has gotten more unstable and unhinged. he spends more time in courtrooms than he does on the campaign trail. many of the same politicians who now publicly embrace trump privately dread him. i feel no need to kiss the ring. >> oh, really? because tonight nikki haley became one of those politicians lyrically embracing donald trump . in her first public appearance since she entered her campaign, haley made it official and said she would vote for him.
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>> trump has not been perfect on these policies. i have made that clear, many, many times. but biden has been a catastrophe. so i will be voting for trump. trump would be smart to reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continued to support me, and not assume that they are just going to be with him. >> she went from unhinged and unstable to he is just not perfect. but even if donald trump does reach out to those voters, will they listen? to help us answer that, i want to bring in robert gibbs, white house press secretary under president obama, and matthew dowd, former judge george w. bush strategist and founder of country over party. he is an nbc senior political analyst. matthew, what do you think about nikki haley's big announcement? >> i am not surprised. i had set a couple months ago, i always felt with her it
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wasn't a question of if, it was a question of when. for her, sadly, i mean, there are so many parts of this to explore. but i think it fundamentally, what donald trump, i think, really the purpose, one of the positive purposes he serves i will say is he is a great revealer of who people fundamentally are. he reveals them for the good of people like liz cheney and others who stand up and put their career at risk and lose their careers, because they are doing what's right. and he reveals the fundamental corruption is and on soundness of people who put on this full blanket of integrity or public service, and in the end we find out through donald trump, he reveals people for who they are. it is sad, it is discouraging. it is not surprising. because he has revealed others to be the same way. >> robert, since it seemed like to donald trump called nikki
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haley a very negative thing in the book, including even a birdbrain. is there anything he could've done or said that might have kept nikki haley from eventually endorsing him? >> i think very little. like matthew, i am not at all surprised at her announcement today. i am, i do think there is a lot of work that nikki haley is going to have to do to actually convince her voters that what she is saying now is more believable than what she said a few months ago. i think it will take some real effort on trump and his teams part to actually reach out to those voters. and i think we as observers are probably not spending enough time looking at her voters. step back and understand, earlier this month she got 22% in indiana in a race she dropped out from three months ago. and if 10% of that vote,
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roughly 10,000 votes, that is the gap that we saw in a place like arizona in the last election. this is a race that is going to be decided by closer margins than it was four years ago. just a few of those voters in a swing state like arizona or nevada are going to tip this thing. so i think this is a far from done deal that her voters are hearing what she is saying and actually believing it. we spent a lot of time looking at polling and trying to figure out if certain voting blocs are going to vote for joe biden like they did in 2020. i think we should really circle these nikki haley voters and dig into what we think they are actually going to do in november. >> matthew, could she be the magic touch for donald trump? i am going to walk into this memorial day weekend, and i guarantee i am going to hear from people saying if she has donald trump's running mate,
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then i guess i can vote for him. she will really make sure he doesn't go off the rails. will nikki haley as a potential running mate give all sorts of centrists the air cover they need to say well, i can vote for him now, nikki will be there? >> well, first she is going to have crossed the bridge of where donald trump has already expressed she is not going to be the running mate. everyone on this panel knows that donald trump will lie about anything, so maybe he is lying about that. i actually think in his mind, in his mind, and we could explore that in many different ways, he doesn't think he gains anything by putting nikki haley on the ticket. i don't think he thinks he gains anything, and i don't think he actually trust her. i think the number one criteria for donald trump is not will it help me win an election, it is will this person do everything i told him to do and will they enable me and all that i want to do and will they not argue with me and will they do what mike pence wouldn't do? that is what i think is number one criteria is, and i don't
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think he believes nikki haley satisfies that criteria. he does not trust nikki haley will satisfy the mike pence criteria. >> i don't think he likes her, i don't think he trusts her. but i think he likes all those votes she got, which was a whole lot more than all the others. let's talk about a new topic here, because republicans are pushing a bill to bar noncitizens from voting, and here is a really important part , it is already illegal in federal elections. they are not allowed to vote. but robert, how dangerous is this narrative? they put this bill out there, it just opens the door to say look, democrats are allowing noncitizens to vote. we have to put a stop to that. >> well, it is electioneering and certainly not governing. as you point out, this is a law on the books in every state in the country. and it is intended only to get those that are at a significantly charged level,
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significantly more charged. and that is sort of, look, outrage is the motivating factor for lots of donald trump's base. every weekend every month new things are going to have to be generated to sort of keep that outrage ballooned at a certain altitude. it is dangerous, it goes to what jim comay says, your last guest. in this idea that if these false narratives continue to propel and spew misinformation and disinformation, eventually it just gets it harder to get people to revert to what is actually the truth. and, you know, we are going to get past donald trump at some point in our political lives. and at that point we are going to have to start putting truth back into our dialogue and truth back into our governing. and the longer this goes on, the longer that project will take.
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>> before i let you guys go, matthew, let's talk about joe biden in this student debt relief. we are seeing republicans pushed so hard against it, saying joe biden is buying votes. if he's doing this for college grads, what about all the people who don't go to college? they get nothing, they are left out. isn't that how politics works? the loophole only helps the private equity industry. it does not help us. corporate tax cuts only helps corporations. it does not help the rest of us. when donald trump goes down to mar-a-lago and says i'm going to lower your taxes, he is lowering the taxes of the richest of the rich people. so this whole you are buying votes, isn't this just how politics works? fulfilling campaign promises to certain groups. >> yeah, and all of what you said is true, not the least of the hypocrisy when a number of these people advocating against it got covid loans they did not pay back, which i find fairly amusing in the course of this. i'm a person that had a student loan, i paid my student loans back.
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i am fine with him for giving the student loans because of the system that exists and allows this to happen, and actually stifles our economy when we don't have people in the economy doing the things that you can do instead of paying the student loans back. to me, this is another example of him trying to say, and republicans trying to say all you hard working, and i will say white americans, this is basically what they are saying, all you hard-working white americans are at a disadvantage to all of these other groups, in many ways, not your color, that are taking advantage of the government system. and i want to end that. that is basically what people are saying on the student loan debate. it is not a debate about what the actual, what it means, and how our educational system isn't affordable. it is basically saying you hard- working americans are not like those americans. that is what it is. >> well, thank you. and thank you for joining me tonight, i appreciate it.
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before we got a break i want to check out our dj t tracker. donald trump's media company, the stock closed at a little over $44 a share. that is up slightly from the previous day. $44 a share for a company that basically doesn't do anything. you know how i know that? we saw their abysmal earnings earlier this week. we talked about it earlier this week. the company lost, excuse me, the revenue in the first quarter was $770,000. i'm going to put that in comparison. because trump and his team argue there the next big social media company. let's compare it. the parent of facebook and instagram, the biggest social media company, brought in $36 billion in the first quarter of this year. it took them three minutes to make what trump media made in three months, and it still trades at $44 a share. that is puzzling. we are going to keep watching trump media stock, and make sure you know what is really going on every day.
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legislation on artificial intelligence and its potential real world applications including schools. when you hear about ai in schools, it is about all fear. he argues that schools embrace ai. salman khan joins us now. he is the founder and ceo of khan academy, a non-profit providing free world class education. how ai will revolutionize education and why that is a good thing. so many, there are schools out there that have banned out there. some fear that kids will use it to cheat on their essays and next thing you know, they will be kicked out of school.
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>> one of the applications is p applications is you can put it in the prompt and it will spit out an essay. they did start to ban it and i was upset when that was happening. we were already working on what we call conmigo, our version of generative ai. ened a i thought people were going to throw out the baby with the bath water. it can support students, it has to be structured that way. so, where schools and not should just go, but we are already working with a bunch of schools is use tools that are built using the same underlying technology. it has guardrails. it will support students. then you have a much more
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constructive case. >> your goal since you started khan academy has always been how do you educate every kid from any corner of the world with the high quality education? you believe you are going to do this with an ai tutor. how is that going to work? >> and i always like to put the use case in front of the technology. it is very easy to get enamored by the technology. my 12-year-old cousin needed tutoring so i remotely tutored her. i was in boston, she was in new orleans. word spread free tutoring was going on. before i know it i'm tutoring ten, 15 cousins after work. and i saw how that attention was able to benefit them. a lot of them struggling became really, really strong students. and you fast forward to now. all of khan academy has been trying to scale that personalization i was able to
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do for my cousins. we tried to approximate that with on demand video. with exercises. when we saw what generative ai could do. in some ways almost indies ting wish able from the from the chats i had with my cousins. we are guilty of this at khan academy. you can accelerate your students. but here is one more thing for you to learn on top of everything you are already doing. but generative ai is one more thing to learn. but it can also help teachers write lesson plans. at least do a preliminary reading of papers. and then it can actually accelerate students. be a tutor, a teaching assistant. but it is doing that not just because it is cool technology. but because it is doing that same type of personalization i was able to do with my cousin nadia back in the day.
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>> two of my children are dyslexic. i am. we have so many kids around the world with learning differences and it is so hard to access the kind of resources they need. it is so expensive. you say that ai can specifically help people that have reading comprehension issues which is a huge challenge. and when kids can't read, they hate school. >> that's right. and it is not just about reading. what blocks a lot of students in math and science is also the reading comprehension breaking down the problem. i don't just like to talk about things. we are building these things and putting them out in real public schools and we are seeing yes, there might be a word problem in math. and a student can say hey, can you rewrite this at a fourth grade level? or i'm an english language, can you restate this in spanish? so it is a hybrid? my daughter who is 12, i used to think she was being a little
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gimmicky with this. i write about this in the book. she says can you talk to me in gen-z slang. but she gets more engaged with the math. with the reading and writing. >> the gen-z slang is what makes her feel connected. but nothing can replace the connection of a great teacher. every one of us have stories of that teacher that pulled us through that inspired us. is ai going to replace those teachers? >> i am very confident that the answer is absolutely not. i have said this. >> i thought you were about to say i am confident yes. and i'm like um, there's the door buddy. >> i have said this for years at khan academy. even back in 2010, 2011. when people knew me for youtube videos and for software that we were creating. people said oh, is this going to replace teachers? id say if you believe a teacher is just about a lecture, but a teacher is way more than a lecturer. if i had to pick between an
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amazing teacher and no technology, i would pick an amazing teacher every time. >> but there is just not enough teachers to get the job done. >> the goal. this goes back to history of education. alexander the great had aristotle as a personal tutor. 300 years ago, we have mass public education. we had to make compromises. some kids are going to do well and less well. the opportunity here is well, we don't have to make this trade off anymore. you can have a great teacher and give them the tools so they can start to personalize for those 30 students. they are all in 30 different places. they need 30 different things. every teacher wants support. so what i see here and we are seeing this happen in classrooms is that this liberates the teacher to do what the teacher always wanted
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to do. they don't dream about grading 180 papers over a weekend. they don't dream about spending on top of running six classrooms, writing lesson plans for three, four hours at night. so this actually allows teachers, you get that time back. when you go into a classroom, you personalize more for the students and you can do more focus interventions. you can spend time more with the students personally. that's the thing ai will never replace. >> aristotle for everyone. welcome to ai. thank you so much. congratulations on the book. >> thank you. thanks again to salman khan. when we return, world war ii forced a teen to drop out of high school. now, over half a century later, she is finally graduating. you do not want to miss this story when the 11th hour continues. he 11th hour contueins. you know what's brilliant? boring. think about it. boring is the unsung catalyst for bold. what straps bold to a rocket and hurtles it into space? boring does. boring makes vacations happen,
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she never got to check that box. back in 1942, her father pulled her out of school to work on the family farm while her brother was busy serving in world war ii. she left school just one class shy of a diploma. the war ended. she got married, raised three kids and had a career, but never got around to getting that diploma. until this month after her family reached out to the school district. watch this. >> eleanor anne mckey. [ cheers and applause ]

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