tonight on "the reidout" -- >> i had the honor this term of the only supreme court decision in the history of that institution that has been lambasted by a whole string of foreign leaders. >> samuel alito, who reveled in and joked about being the one to deliver the death blow to roe v. wade is now making it harder to bring racial gerrymandering cases while flying yet another extremist flag over his home.

also tonight, donald trump is wasting his time in the bronx, following a head spinning week as a criminal defendant. purveyor of nazi rhetoric, and bald faced liar that he was a target for assassination. plus, how ron desantis fresh from his humiliating presidential campaign, is co-opting the civil rights era term freedom summer, to push his hateful agenda. we begin tonight with a very stark reality in america. elections have consequences. and because this country elected donald trump in 2016, we have the most extremist supreme court in modern history. yesterday, the niemsz reported that justice samuel alito didn't just fly an upside down flag outside his virginia home, he also proudly displayed a flag that has become a symbol of christian nationalism outside his new jersey summer home.

the flag seen here is called the appeal to heaven flag, which like the inverted u.s.flag was carried by the rioting insurrectionists at the capitol on january 6th. now, some will claim it's a revolutionary war flag, but that symbol fell out of favor and into obscurity. the flag has been repurposed as a symbol of support for trump, more importantly, a symbol of a religious sect in the stop to steal movement that advocates for a modern america defined in purely christian terms. and what i'm about to tell you next will not surprise you in the least. propublica has learned leonard leo, the man who has single handed lay remade the judiciary in this country and played a key role in not just alito's confirmation but also the five other conservative justices, is flying that exact same flag outside his fancy summer home in maine. it will also not surprise you that house speaker mike johnson has the same flag outside one of

his offices. and let me be clear. what these men are choosing to signal to the world is that they are fighting for a theocratic america, one that dissurprises earl warren's supreme court that made landmark rulings, recognizing a right to contraception for married couples and to interracial marriage, barring state sanctioned school prayer, and guaranteeing access to public defenders for indigent criminal defendants. these men who hold incredible power over more than 340 million americans, are on a crusade against secular america. now, after notching wins on rolling back access to reproductive care, expanding prayer in schools, and crippling the voting rights act, they have delivered yet another blow to diversity and equity just this morning. and the justice who is flying a christian nationalist flag outside both his homes was the

author of the majority opinion in a case that gave a full-throated endorsement of political gerrymandering, even if it's racially motivated. samuel alito in his opinion stated that the purpose of the ruling was to prevent litigants from repackaging a partisan gerrymandering claim as a racial gerrymandering claim by exploiting the tight link between race and political preference. he then went on to assault the notion that racism might exist in america as all, writing in his typically indignant prose, when a federal court finds that race drove a legislature's districting decisions, it is declaring that the legislature engaged in offensive and demeaning conduct. we should not be quick to hurl such accusations at the political branches. alito's sneering words backed by all of the conservatives on the court, now codify the

presumption of white racial innocence into the law. his words are truly delusional and breathtaking, but justice clarence thomas, his concurrence takes the cake. thomas, making the argument that america is not racist and doesn't need the courts to push a fair and just society, assaults the warren court's ruling in brown v. board of education, which found that racial segregation in public schools is unconstitutional. thomas, whose craving for luxury is exceeded only by his clear self-loathing faults the warren court for taking a, quote, boundless view of equitable remedies through extravagant uses of judicial power to end racial segregation in the 1950s and '60s. that's right. clarence thomas, who to america's endless shame succeeded the great thurgood marshall, is criticizing the supreme court for ruling that a

racist system is unconstitutional. let me just make it plain. the conservative majority does not believe that racism exists, and because they think it doesn't exist, they have now made it easier for republicans to use redistricting to help white republicans maximize their political power. justice elena kagan on behalf of justices sotomayor and jackson, wrote this stinging rebuke in their dissent. quote, this court is not supposed to be so fearful of telling discriminators, including states, to stop discriminating. those actors will often have an incentive to use race as a proxy to achieve partisan ends. go right ahead, this court says, to states today. and so this odious practice of sorting citizens built on racial generalizations and exploiting racial divisions will continue. frankly, justices alito and thomas do not care. alito famously bemoaned the fact

that you can't say that marriage is a union between one man and one woman, which is a lie. you can say that all you want. hashtag first amendment. and thomas once reportedly told clerks that he intended to remain on the court until the year 2034, because, quote, the liberals made my life miserable for 33 years and i'm going to make their lives miserable for 43 years. folks, this is why elections matter. because it does not stop here. they are coming for the right to contraception. they're coming for the right to gay marriage. they're coming for it all, every single 20th century advancement, except for interracial marriage, of course, because that one would affect clarence and ginni thomas, his martha ann. because make no mistake, this is a war on secular america that they intend to win. joining me now is derrick johnson, president and ceo of the naacp. and david jolly, former congressman and msnbc political

analyst. derrick johnson, i'm going to allow you to respond first to what the court has done today. >> well, it's unfortunate. you're correct, elections do have consequences. clarence thomas is a grifter. he's benefitting from positions that he actually -- for taking positions he benefitted from, but for desegregating society, we would not know clarence thomas. clarence thomas is an unfortunate outcome of a tradition of black people grifting off their race to betray their race. it is unfortunate. what we have seen the supreme court do in the decision was to undermine the question of equal protection under the law, that no state should use race as a proxy to discriminate for political gain. we are living in america in 2024, not 1950s apartheid south africa.

>> i think they wish we were living in 1950s apartheid south africa, including clarence who thinks somehow he might benefit so long as he's some rich man's pet. let me go to you, david. let's talk about samuel alito. his contempt for his position, his blaming of his wife, his two coup flags, and then he is the author of a ruling which says, go ahead and discriminate as long as you color it is a political discrimination, because really, he's fine with racial discrimination and gerrymandering. >> joy, i guess we gave credit to samuel alito that he gave his wife the ability to choose which flag to fly. this issue on the gerrymandering decision and all voting rights decisions that are considered by this court, is really fascinating to me because of how quickly the thomases and alitos will jump to the argument that racism is over. there is no racism in the united

states anymore, and therefore, the protections against discriminated classes no longer need to be there. but all you have to do is go to certain political rallies tonight and you'll see racism on display. but set that part aside as well and to suggest that the discriminate impact of a history of racism in the united states is still not affecting opportunities for communities of color across the country tonight requires a professed ignorance when the fact is right in front of their eyes. perhaps they live in some pretty special neighborhoods where they don't see the disparity and economic inequality. they don't see the access to health care inequality, the access to education inequality. but it's there, and that indiscriminate impact or discriminate impact is the result of centuries of racism in the united states, and there still is a role for the federal government. this court will not ever address it, and it's why, joy, though i don't personally have a hard stance on this position, i think

democrats right now need to start talking more about expanding the court. run on the issue of expanding the court. because the only way to dilute the power of the alitos and thomases now for the next several decades is to say we're a party that will expand the court and expand your freedoms. >> i will note that democrat steve cohen of tennessee has introduced a bill calling to censure samuel alito for his coup flags, but derrick johnson, i think the -- i started this by saying elections matter. i think people need to -- democrats, just americans in general, independents, republicans who care about being a democracy, need to wrap their minds around the fact that if donald trump becomes president, samuel alito and clarence thomas will immediately retire, they're both in their 70s. they want to retire under a republican. they're naked partisans. they're not jurists by any stretch of the imagination. they will retire and donald trump will replace them with 30-something and 40-something-year-old versions of themselves.

means donald trump will have appointed at that point five out of nine members of the united states supreme court. he will have created a court that will last for 50 years or more. that is the legacy he will then inherit as somebody who did not win the popular vote the first time, who got a stolen court seat that he was allowed to flip after justice ginsburg died. this is insanity that people are even considering doing it. how do we get average citizens, derrick, to understand that that is what is at stake? >> i was in detroit on sunday, can i talked to a group of formerly incarcerated young men and they were talking about their frustration. i listened to them. after they finished, i said listen, in a two-party system, there isn't a third-party candidate option. that's throwing away your vote. in a game of chess, it's not about one election in november. it's about the power your vote means long term. as a result, you have to move away from candidate a versus

candidate b. this is about fascism or democracy, this is about the opportunity and the tone that you set and this power game. what we are looking at, unfortunately, is a small set of individuals that are highly funded by billionaires who are seeking to control tax policies, who gets taxed, who does not, and what those taxes are spent on and willing to risk our constitution and this democracy to maintain their supremacy. that's unfortunate for clarence thomas to fall in the pocket of that reality. >> the bottom line is he thinks there's no racism because he's getting goodies from rich black men and rich white men, as long as everyone is giving him goodies, i think he believes there is no racism. >> it's a sad state for any man to rely on somebody to take care of your mother. and that's what he has done. he's not a man. he's less than because he's depending on a billionaire to pay for his mother's rent to

stay somewhere. that's unfortunate. that tells you a lot about his character. that tells you a lot about who he is as an individual. >> amen. you have now also have this world, david jolly, where donald trump is lying about the idea that the current president was trying to assassinate him when the fbi went to his home to get back america's property from his bedroom and ballroom, to get back our nuclear secrets from his house. when his actual lawyers have argued that he has the power to assassinate his political enemies. and when he has said he will unleash the police to assassinate anyone they want in this country and use the military to shoot protesters. i don't even know what else to say to people if they think that is a reality they would accept, because they think donald trump will make eggs $2 cheaper. >> another very dangerous moment from donald trump, and dangerous

because this is where the malfeasance of some republicans meets the ignorance of other republicans. donald trump knows that's a lie, perhaps, but certainly his allies on fox news and many of the people around him know that it is a lie that somehow joe biden was going to target him with violence. this was standard language in any search warrant. then it meets the toxic ignorance of the marjorie taylor greenes and those parts of the party, and you really see this false narrative, dangerous narrative take hold. the reason it's dangerous is donald trump's whole theme is that the government's coming for him and they're coming for you. january 6th was a stole your vote, so go to the capitol with strength, not weakness. use strength. now he's saying they tried to shoot me. they were coming to take my life. there's an audience that hears that and says we have to rally behind donald trump and protect him. the fact is, most politicians, historically, try to de-escalate, simmer down tensions. donald trump ramps it right up and it's a dangerous moment. >> i'll note the exact same

guidance was used when president biden's properties were searched in order -- it's standard, and they believe actually police should have the power and not be accountable for shooting people, so it's interesting. i want to end on a somewhat positive note, a good note in many ways. let me play what marilyn moezby, the former attorney representing baltimore city. here's what she said when her sentence which is home confinement for a year, not a day of jail time, this is what she had to say after that hearing. >> i'm just so incredibly grateful. >> we love you. >> thank you. >> this is not over. but god was here today and i know he's with me. he touched the heart of this judge and has allowed me to go home to my babies. >> derrick, she received 12 months of home confinement, three years of supervised

release, must forfeit her florida condo over a $5,00050. i want you to comment on that. i know you signed a petition for president biden to pardon her, but this justice department, this doj is still allowing trump era prosecutions like this one to stand, that absolutely feel like retribution, and i want to note as you answer that question, the fbi has now raided the hines county, d.a., the one who secured the convictions in mississippi's welfare scandal when they were stealing from the poor. what is going on at the doj right now? this is supposed to be a democratic doj, but i want you to comment on all of that, please, including ms. mosby. >> first, you have a lot of career individuals embedded inside all of our agencies. some of those individuals are carrying forth political views that's not consistent with equal protection under the law. in 2015, there was an effort, and it was really, really

successful in getting d.a.s to be more accountable to the communities they represent. marilyn mosby is one of those d.a.s. she did a fantastic job. now she was targeted because she was using her money to provide a better life for her family. i want to commend angela wright because she's the advocate behind this. marilyn mosby must be pardoned because this is a targeted precaution cushion that even the standards by which they have used wouldn't meet the threshold. they only go after people with a threshold over a million dollars. again, we need to do something about embedded career employees within doj and other agencies. >> well said. derrick johnson and david jolly, thank you both. up next on "the reidout," you know american politics is in a sad state when in this week alone, the republican nominee has baselessly accused his opponent of trying to assassinate him, posted a video

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when saying she plans to vote for donald trump. meanwhile, the actual president is getting actual things done. on wednesday, president biden announced the cancellation of an additional $7.7 billion with a "b" dollars in student loans for 160,000 americans. he also reached an historic milestone of appointing more than 200 federal judges, the majority of them women and people of color. joining me now is charles blow, msnbc political analyst and columnist for "the new york times," and molly jong fast, vanity fair special correspondent and msnbc contributor. let me play for you all to enjoy nikki haley's a bit of her speech. juxtaposed with some of the facts to fact check it. here it is. >> as a voter, i put my priorities on a president who's going to have the backs of our allies. >> nato, you take a look at

nato. every deal is horrible. i haven't seen any deals that are good deals. >> and hold our enemies to account. >> i think putin has been a strong leader for russia. >> when would cure the border, no more excuses. >> nikki haley has been in the pocket of the open borders establishment donors her entire career. she's a globalist. >> trump would be smart to reach out to the millions of people who voted for me and continue to support me. >> people behind nikki haley are pro amnesty, pro china, pro open borders. pro war, pro deep state, and pro biden. that's not too good. >> make it make sense. why is she endorsing him? >> we knew she was going to. >> look, she's not a person with a lot of moral courage. and she has never been. she served in that admin. i thought maybe she would be smart and have an eye towards democracy. that is not how it works. look, all these republicans have fallen in line, except mike

pence. >> and chris christie. >> but mike pence was his former vice president. and he, again, trump did a lot of terrible stuff to him, but he did actually say, i'm not going to vote for him. which i think is meaningful. by the way, a lot of people in trump's administration have also come out against trump. just not nikki haley. >> let me play what she said about kissing the ring. >> he's gotten more unstable and unhinged. he spends more time in courtrooms than he does on the campaign trail. many of the same politicians who now publicly embrace trump privately dread him. i feel no need to kiss the ring. >> those who embrace trump privately dread him, charles. there is a thing in atocracy that everybody has to kiss the ring. >> she's smart, articulate, also

a person who lacks any integrity whatsoever, and that's always been the case. she's also been one of the most transactional politicians that we have in this country, and she continues to show us that that is who nikki haley is. i was really kind of blown away during the republican primaries when people kept saying, oh, she's different. it's a different kind of republican. you know, this is a viable alternative. no, this is always who nikki haley has been. this is always who nikki haley will be. >> i covered the taking down of the confederate flag which she falsely took credit for, and she was as transactional as she could be because she was for that flag. let me stay with you for a moment. what would be the point of donald trump going to the bronx and bringing up putin, xi jinping and kim jong-un in a place he can never win? >> right. you said it yourself in your

question. he's not going to win new york. he's not going to win the bronx. but that audience is not the bronx. the audience is everyone else in states that he could possibly win, and what he tries to do, and there's no downside for him to do this, by the way, he's trying to signal to other people, signal to people in swing states who are white who don't want to be thought of as voting for a racist to soften the ground and say maybe he's not a racist and also to shave off a couple points among blacks and hispanics who say i don't want to vote for a racist. they say maybe he's not as racist as they say he is. this is signaling to other people, has nothing to do with new york, has nothing to do with the bronx. >> the unified reich thing, he just says things like that. it's trump. unified reich is a thing, google it. let's talk about biden for a moment. we should spend some time talking about the actual president. the student loan eliminating

student debt, i know somebody, it happened to her and she cried. $30,000 wipes away. thing about the possibilities for her child and family. $7.7 billion, it's a big deal. and he's got that going for him. while the confirmed judicial nominees, 200-plus, 201 that he's done. 196 that trump did. substantially women, people of color. like, it's a big deal. but is that enough to move the electorate? >> so, we are really early. this election is still almost six months away. i think that what we have seen, this was a week of insane polls. i truly believe that they need a little more time. they are running a campaign that is very organized. where they are in the states they need to be in, they have a lot of money. and the reality is, joe biden is working really hard. now, is he doing everything that any of us want?

absolutely not. >> and he's got issues on his side. louisiana just lawmakers went to make abortion pills controlled substances. kwouv rr got people like lawrence boebert running, pretending she's doing infrastructure that she didn't do. so the republicans even see that his issues are good. they want them, they want to take them. >> you're seeing swing state senators backing away from the big lie because they know it doesn't sell. i do think that, look, and if we just look back at the most recent elections, every election since 2016 has basically been a referendum on donald trump. so look, things have to happen. people hate inflation, that is going to be a big deal. biden world can do things for people trying to buy homes, but i do think there really is -- he's on the right side of history, and that has to mean something. >> charles, can we talk a little more about the judges? we don't really talk much about judges but we have seen the dimunition of our rights by people going and snagging the

right judge. they go to that judge in texas that wants to get rid of mifepristone. you have samuel alito, the supreme court, this could be our future. he could get five out of the nine justices that donald trump appoints. judges are important. >> judges are hugely important. the way that our judicial system is constructed and the way we appoint judges and they ascend is also slightly problematic, we're getting to understand that. the constitution is not perfect, and this part of it, the idea that we could politicize the ascension of judges is a huge problem. democrats rush to appoint as many as they can when they have the reins and republicans rush to do the same thing. everybody is trying to nominate younger and younger and younger judges. so they will stay on the courts forever. this is actually not healthy for any of us. it is good that biden is confirming as many as he can because trump confirmed a tremendous number as well.

you have to balance that out. >> expand the court. charles blow and molly jong fast, thank you. coming up, another shameful move from, you guessed it, ron desantis. he just won't go away. and he had the utter gall to co-opt the term freedom summer, landmark time in the civil rights movement, and use it to ban florida bridges from lighting up in any colors besides red, white, and blue. seriously. we'll be right back. after advil: let's dive in! but...what about your back? it's fineeeeeeee!

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on june 15, 1964, a group of black and white civil rights activists led by bob moses and about 300 mostly northern volunteers poured into mississippi, the hardest state to register black voters, and the lynchingest state in the union. they called it freedom summer. the push built on the 1961 freedom rides that took mostly college students on integrated buses through the south, from washington, d.c., through alabama and mississippi, to their ultimate destination in new orleans. during those early rides, young activists like john lewis and joan mulholland met violence resistance from the klan and from white segregationist governors and sheriffs, beatings and fire bombings that encompassed the full weight of the south's massive resistance against the brown v. board supreme court decision and other

rulings mandating the end of segregation in public accommodations in the u.s. freedom summer in 1964. a year after the assassination of medgar evers, marked a turning point on the way to the passage of the landmark civil rights act of 1964 and the 1965 voting rights act, which finally made real the promises of the 13th, 14th, and 15th reconstruction amendments to the constitution. so the term freedom summer has a meaning. or at least it should to any american with a passive knowledge of history. enter ron desantis. america's most boldly racist governor, whose presidential campaign ended in rank humiliation as he wound up groveling to trump and agreeing to fund-raise for him after torching his state, sinking florida with a pointless war with disney, a six-week abortion ban he signed in the middle of the night, and a performative

war against covid vaccinations and masking to protect children and the elderly. all while florida led the nation in banning books, banning drag shows, banning diversity, equity, and inclusion, and turning itself into a white nationalist hide-out for every crook, criminal, and trump in america. well, i guess those are kind of the same thing. you get the point. not to mention the place where national security documents get stuffed into bathroom showers and elderly narcissists' bedrooms. now, ron has decided to steal the term freedom summer to apply it to something vulgar, because he is vulgar. according to "the washington post," as part of what desantis is calling freedom summer, his transportation department has told cities across the state that if they want to light up their bridges at night, they can only use the colors red, white, and blue. the order which was shared by the florida transportation secretary on social media, means

that bridges across the state that normally illuminate in colorful aways of light to mark holidays or awareness events won't be able to use any other colors from may 27 through september 2nd. the goal of ron's order is clearly to shut down any celebration of pride month, which begins june 1st. it's his attempt to strip the bright colors off florida and turn the state into alabama, which its panhandle was originally supposed to be. mostly it's a message to florida's large and vibrant lgbtq population that your governor hates you. just as much as he loathes the black and migrant populations in your state. well, ron, those of us who actually read books rather than banning them know what freedom summer was, and you can't have that term for your sorry, bigoted performative maga road show. it belongs to history, to john lewis and joan mulholland and bob moses and diane nash and

goodman and cheney who were lynched during that long hot summer and all of the heroes, black and white, jewish and gentile, free men and free women who fought for the right of black people to vote. to be served as a lunch counter, and for every american to live in dignity. dignity. you should look it up, ron. maybe if you had some, you could be president one day. you cannot shut down the dignity of our lgbtq brothers and sisters by limiting the colors of the rainbow on a bridge because those who came before us crossed the edmund pettus bridge to oppose people like you. so i would like to declare this coming summer to be freedom summer, too. let's all of us commit to work and to vote for freedom, the freedom of women, even in florida and throughout the south, to control their own bodies, the freedom of gay, lesbian, and trans people to live their lives in a way that makes them happy and healthy. the freedom to read, including books that make you think, make

you uncomfortable, make you grow. the freedom to vote. the freedom to march and to protest. to live free of gun violence, the freedom to go to school armed with your dignity and your diversity and all that you bring to the table. the freedom of immigrants to work free from fear of deportation. i'm telling y'all, every time that florida man bangs on about something with his awful self, i don't just get mad, i get motivated. let's get motivated and make this a real freedom summer. worthy of the heroes who created it, and ignore the racist governor who tried to steal it for whatever his evil agenda is. and that goes for his buddy rick scott too. we'll be right back. when enamel is gone, you cannot get it back. but you can repair it with pronamel repair.

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american realty capital, who then immediately leased it back. that meant that red lobster had to start paying rent at an above market rate which added a massive expense. at the outset, they were paying more than $118 million, nearly half of their annual operation earnings in cash rent. and now those same leases are cited in red lobster's bankruptcy filing. it's not just red lobster falling victim to this practice. wall street has been doing this with housing too. as propublica puts it, private equity firms often act like a corporate version of a house flipper. they seek deals on apartment buildings or single family homes, and then unload the buildings at a higher price. since they pay with cash, they're able to outbid any first time home buyers or middle class families not to mention it happens in predominantly black or latino neighborhoods because gentrification, of course. this has been going on since the 2008 recession, but it's only

exacerbated since the pandemic and is another reason why so many of us, i's so expensive to laugh or buy. joining me is the laugh track to my read here, stephanie ruhle. >> first of all -- >> let me give you -- >> i have to compliment you. that was an extraordinary explanation. i was sweating it out thinking i was going to have to break it down for the audience, going i'm about to explain private equity sell lease backs. you did it beautifully. >> i will credit my i explained it and it took me about half an hour. >> it is my son's favorite restaurant. >> the cheddar bay biscuits. >> he does like the all-you-can- eat shrimp. >> the reason i'm so obsessed with the stories because people

are trying to understand why housing and rent is so expensive and i keep trying to tell people it's the equity firms that are bang up all the stuff and they are jacking up all the prices and now they are doing it to red lobster. >> private equity firms are not good at operating restaurant oh or hotels, they are good at financial engineering and that's exactly what this is in the problem with this headline when he see red lobsters going bankrupt, for all the people who want to say, the economy is failing, look, a household name, red lobster is going under because no one's going out to eat. that's not true. this all-you-can-eat shrimp deal did hurt them they lost about $10 million but $10 million, they are paying that money to the bankruptcy law firm, help our audience understand, these private equity firms they by the company, they say i'm going to sell the land and when they sell the land they automatically have this leaseback so all the restaurants then have to rent

the space at a higher level and then they are underwater. >> i think people don't understand companies like mcdonald's and red lobster, they are selling to real estate firms. people are not understanding what the business is that these companies are in, it's not food, flying planes, it's bankcard stuff and land. >> cash flow business. so couple that with yes the restaurant business got hit hard in the last few years. then they do the shrimp deal and when you and i get all you can eat shrimp they can't turn the table over in 45 minutes. we want to sit for two hours. >> some of this is like shocking, in atlanta, 21% of the housing market is bought out by private investors. tampa, 15%, this is the reason housing is so expensive.

>> phoenix, nashville, and so locals can't afford it anymore, private equity firms come in they say i'll take it sight unseen i will buy it for cash, they cut out all the operation costs and then they jacked the rent and individuals can't afford it so when people say, the economy stinks, i don't feel well, it's because rent is so high. interest rates, where they are, they can't afford to buy a house. >> the polling that came up, it's shocking to me, people actually believe that president biden controls the prices of things. they think it's the president, a lot or some, put that back up again. they think the president controls the prices of things. private equity firms are controlling it, investors are controlling it. how come there is such a disconnect? >> it's a free market, the president certainly doesn't control it and the media

doesn't help the narrative, talking about it every day all the negatives and life is expensive, when you go to the grocery store, a restaurant but here's one of the other issues, things cost more but we are making more money, people have more money in their pocket then they did pre-pandemic. the amount of people traveling this summer, airlines and hotels are expecting a booming summer, do you think people with no disposable income are not going on vacation? they are on vacation. >> this is the washington post, you have target, walmart and all day, all doing price cuts off thousands of items that consumers have said that they are discontent with the cost. they've been price gouging, and they are automatically going to lower prices, inflation, that's what inflation is. >> we've seen consumer brand after consumer brand, every time we hear their quarterly earnings they talk about well, there's some price elasticity, there's flexibility meaning they are able to test the market and raise the price and finally, consumers are saying, i'm not going for the irish

butter. >> the doj, people are able to build these companies to be so huge that they can be a monopoly. >> ticketmaster is a different situation people could say how come things are so much cheaper in europe, ticketmaster operates in europe, it's cheaper in europe because in europe, there are serious regulations on scalping, secondary market and that's what kills you here, the secondary market, when you buy the original price of the ticket it's not so bad, it's the secondary market. >> stephanie ruhle, the reason we are together is the reason we have to stay apart is because we will do this for another half hour. >> we will do a dance segment. we will be right back. righk provides 2 shades whiter teeth and 24/7 sensitivity protection. i think it's a great product. it's going to help a lot of patients. my grandfather's run meyer the hatter

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