it was this issue of qualified immunity and whether or not that was something that officers were going to be giving up. so there was a lot of back and forth, and philonise talked about that, he said he met with lawmakers personally and he was very disappointed in the room, they would sound like they were going to back the bill, but when they left, they didn't do that. he said politics it felt like was all a game. he's very worried and very angry at that. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show on social media @mitchell reports. have a safe memorial day and remember our veterans. you can rewatch the best parts of our show on youtube. "chris jansing reports" starts right now. ♪♪ good day, i'm chris jansing live at msnbc headquarters in new york city. just minutes ago we got our first update from hunter biden's hearing ahead of his trial on

federal gun charges. and in just an hour, the judge has already ruled on four motions. our crew at the courthouse will tell us about the ground rules he's laying for this trial. plus, donald trump trying to win over black and hispanic voters as he rallies in the deep blue south bronx. his many controversial messages and the response from one of the most diverse crowds at any of his rallies. and take a look at this, a massive tornado caught on camera carving a path of destruction through parts of oklahoma. this terrifying scene just one of hundreds that have already touched down this year, and now even more danger could be on the horizon. what's causing tornados to be more threatening and what can be done about it. lots to get to on this holiday weekend, but we begin with the next big courtroom legal drama that's hanging over the 2024 election. this time with hunter biden at its center. right now the president's son is in court for a pretrial hearing on felony gun charges.

that trial set to begin on june 3rd. hunter biden pled not guilty last october to those federal charges involving the alleged possession of a gun while using narcotics. just last night, biden was a guest of honor at the white house state dinner. nbc's ken dilanian reports from outside the courthouse in wilmington. also with us, former republican congressman david jolly. here with me msnbc legal analyst and criminal defense attorney danny cevallos. so ken, i know that we've got some updates now. it's moving pretty fast. tell us what's been going on inside that courtroom. >> reporter: that's right, chris. at issue in this final pretrial hearing before the june 3rd start of the trial were a series of motions arguing about what could and cannot be included as evidence in front of this jury. and it seems like the judge basically gave each side most of what they wanted here, for example, the prosecution is allowed to use portions of hunter biden's memoir as long as

they keep it in context. the defense is not allowed to argue that he wasn't charged in this crime in 2018 back when it allegedly occurred. and remember, he's accused of lying on a federal form while buying a gun and saying that he was not addicted to drugs when the prosecution says, in fact, he was. and another ruling in this case is that they don't have to show that he used drugs, the prosecution doesn't, on the day that he filled out that form, only that he was addicted to drugs, and there's a lot of evidence and text messages and other things that show, in fact, he was using drugs, including in his memoir. the defense the judge says cannot argue that this is a malicious prosecution, grounded in part of russian disinformation. that's completely excluded from the trial, and the prosecution is allowed to talk about his extravagant lifestyle, only as it relates to his drug activity, not in general about the large sums of money he was making in his business world and how he was spending it. but in terms of his use of drugs and some of the activity that stems from that, they are

allowed to talk about it. so the judge setting the parameters of how this trial is going to unfold. hunter biden in the courtroom, i'm told actively engaged and paying attention. special counsel david weiss also sitting with the prosecution team active and engaged. this is a big hearing, and it sets the stage for a very important trial that could cost hunter biden his freedom, chris. >> all right, danny, so far nine separate motions here. they also include pending tax charges, proceedings in california, they want to exclude the defense does, references to child support proceedings in arkansas, any he made on a particular hearing in the matter. as ken said his extravagant lifestyle. >> extravagant lifestyle. is this pretty much pro forma? >> this is very common. this is motions in llimine. you're basically saying to the judge in advance, some of these issues we want to resolve before we get to trial so we don't waste time with me standing up and objecting.

for example, this extravagant lifestyle, let's deal with this in advance. >> let me stop you there, i think a lot of people can understand that's something that's pretty, you know, straightforward. did he have an extravagant lifestyle. the judge granted the motion in part, denied it in part. he is granting this motion saying prosecutors are prevented from phrasing the evidence as having an extravagant lifestyle, but also saying that he denies any drug-related activity biden may have been partaking in would be relevant to this case. it might be relevant to the case. how do we even read that? >> like solomon, judges often need to split the difference, and that's what they try to do because each side has a decent argument, and every motion in limine when it comes to specific acts of evidence like this is really a case-by-case basis. in another case an extravagant

lifestyle may be very relevant and another case an extravagant lifestyle may have nothing to do with the case, as may child support, as may some of the other issues biden is looking to exclude. the judge will often try to allow some in but with a cautionary type instruction. and of course sometimes he'll just have to make a decision right there in the moment during trial. so motions in limine are very common. it does seem like they are a lot, but i looked at the motions, some of them are only a page long, which among lawyers that might as well be a haiku. that is very short for lawyers who often draft motions in the dozens and dozens of pages. no surprise. they're generally something the judge can dispense with relatively quickly. >> we're going to keep our eye on this document. i want to ask you about a couple of other things. we talked about the drug use situation. many americans know what it is like to have someone in our family have an addiction problem. it is unfortunately ubiquitous in this country, drugs and other

substances. can that play into how jury selection goes and what the defense is looking for? >> yes, of course. you're going to want to look for people who might be sympathetic to drug use, but at the same time, that is not as huge an issue to sympathy than you might think. all they need to find is that he was either a habitual drug user or addicted to controlled substances. the statute in this case, and i have cases under this statute. this is a very often prosecuted statute. however, this particular subsection, the unlawful addict or user of unlawful drugs is much more rarely prosecuted. so in other words, the overall statute's prosecuted every day. this particular one, not often prosecuted, and the defense has a pretty good argument, and i can't believe i'm going to say this, but i'm going to go back to a famous phrase, it depends what the meaning of the word is is. because the statute says anyone who is a user or an addict of drugs. at the time, the defense argues

he had just completed an 11-day stint in rehab. in that moment, someone 11 days out of rehab means i'm clean. it's an interesting argument by the defense and a statute that suffers from somewhat vaguely worded language. >> without any proof at all, congressman, as you know, the president and many of his supporters have tried to take what is going on in court right now, the case against hunter biden and tie the president to it that there's some sort of big criminal enterprise, they have absolutely no proof for the kinds of allegations that they are making. do you think any of that sticks with the people who really matter, and by really matter, i say -- i'm referencing the 2024 voters who truly are undecided in who they're going to vote for. >> look, i think the voters, i think the hunter biden issue is largely baked in. i think voters, their minds are captivated by kind of the sex,

drugs, and rock and roll, not the minutia of what will occur in a court in wilmington. i think part of the reason voters' minds are set the way they are is actually a compliment to president joe biden himself. the contrast here between how president biden and his family are staying arms length from the prosecution of his son and how donald trump's likes to whip up conspiracy theories about his own -- his criminality and the trials he's facing, the contrast here is the real story. i mean, what i presume the president agrees with and the defense attorney does here as well for hunter, is this is a case that's rarely brought. as danny said, usually there's an underlying crime, a violent crime, a use of the firearm. that's not this case. this is simply did he lie on the form, and you have someone who just got out of rehab and is going to make a sympathetic case that was i or was i not, i don't know, are you really going to hold me accountable for that. the important part here is the distance that joe biden is

keeping, a father president who certainly, his heart breaks for his son, but he is not using the levers of government, nor is he lying to the american people about the consequences his son now faces where i think we absolutely could suggest that donald trump engages in that. >> i should say for full disclosure, congressman, you were involved in some discussions about a legal defense fund for hunter biden, nothing formal came of it, you weren't paid so i think it's important to say that. one of the things we have heard from the president and the first lady for that matter when they are asked about hunter biden, commonly part of the response is i love my son, and is that where it makes sense from a messaging standpoint, from a political standpoint to leave it? >> it does. first of all, everybody understands drug addiction. everybody is probably one or two degrees of separation from somebody that they know wrecked their lives, and the important part of hunter biden's story is that he has been honest about

the consequences he now faces based on the decisions he made as it relates to his addiction. and so in the first family, you see a president and first lady simply saying to the american people we love and support our son. the only other option, chris, is what donald trump does, which is to try to lie and manipulate the american voters around a justice system that is arguably just following its due course. ken mentioned that there was a settlement agreement a year ago that i think hunter biden's team wish really had worked out. ever since then the two sides have been really averse to each other. you can see the prosecution saying we're going for the win here, and the defense is saying, okay, the fight's on. again, over a matter that would rarely be brought, and i think that is where it is really important to see that the president of the united states is saying i'm not going to interfere in my son's case. >> all right, i want to go back to the court and, ken, i understand there's some back and forth going on involving records and a laptop?

>> reporter: yeah, chris, the judge is allowing the prosecution to use a summary chart that includes some of the evidence from the infamous lab top, text messages and other kinds of things in a limited way because a lot of that goes to the very heart of this case, which is to what extent was he using drugs, when was he using drugs. he's in communication with apparent drug dealers. he's been talking to friends and family about his drug use. it's really important to remember that we got here because a plea deal collapsed that would have called for no jail time. now he's facing two separate felony cases that could land him in federal prison. it's perplexing why these cases are going forward, why his lawyers, you know, walked away from that deal. i know they said they were afraid of his future exposure, but guess what, none of those problems have been solved, and these cases are going forward, and he's at real risk here. these are -- particularly this gun case, it's seen as largely a

fairly easy case for the prosecution to win. the burden of proof, what they have to prove is not complicated. it's just kind of a mystery as to why this is all unfolding this way, chris. >> let me ask you one more thing, danny. hunter biden's attorney, abbe lowell has said he's having some trouble getting expert witnesses, particularly in the area of drug addiction and drug forensics. here's how "politico" put it, his lawyer abbe lowell says the current situation is unlike anything he has found himself in before. abbey lowell is a pretty experienced attorney. he told the judge, people are reluctant to become involved in this case, he added, citing the noise surrounding his high profile client. it's a concern he also raised regarding findings tax experts in another case. does this surprise you at all? do you think it's a real concern, it's about the world we live in now, or is it a delay tactic? >> not at all. i'm not surprised. first of all, there are lots of drug experts. you can find drug experts. they're out there. you can find an expert on

virtually any topic you can imagine, and not only that, chris, you can find one expert to take one position and you can bet the other side's going to find another expert to take the polar opposite position on the same subject. so there's no question that there are experts throughout on this topic, but also in a high profile case like this, experts are into self-preservation. they have a business to run, and that's why they're always very careful about at least trying to be even-handed, at least trying to be even-handed. some of them try to work for prosecution and plaintiffs and equally for defense. some of them they only work for one side get a reputation as, oh, that's the guy who only does defense cases. he always finds in favor of a defense theory of the case, and so it's no surprise that if it's something that's high profile and something that could be damaging to their business that experts who make a living from testifying in court -- >> and a good living generally. >> boy, do they make a good living, chris, i can't tell you, they may be reluctant to threaten that business because you don't want to turn the spigot off by alienating your

client pool. >> danny cevallos, please don't leave us and become an expert witness. ken dilanian keep us updated. david jolly you're going to stay with me. in 90 seconds, former president trump attacking migrants at a rally in democratic territory, how will that play with the minority voters he's looking to win over? ? but sometimes i can't help due to burning and stabbing pain in my hands, so i use nervive. nervive's clinical dose of ala reduces nerve discomfort in as little as seven days. now i can help again feel the difference with nervive. [introspective music] recipes. recipes that are more than their ingredients. ♪ [smoke alarm] recipes written by hand and lost to time... can now be analyzed and restored using the power of dell ai. preserving memories and helping to write new ones. ♪

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whole new level. before one of the most diverse crowds he's had at any rally last night in the bronx, he tried to tie the immigration surge in new york to the economic and social concerns of black and hispanic voters. >> they're coming from so many places. we don't have any idea, in many cases, we don't even know what their language. you know, you have languages that people don't even know about. we have languages where there's nobody in our country that speaks these languages. they're coming from places we have no idea what's happening with our country. the flood of migrants is putting crippling burdens on our communities, your schools, hospitals, parks, and public resources. right now you don't have public spaces. they're occupied by migrants. >> joining us now ashley parker, "washington post" senior national political correspondent, and an msnbc political analyst. back with us david jolly, also joining us nbc ease dasha burns here in the studio. you were there. i'm going to pull back the curtain a little. you were telling me you were flying in from florida, you were

tired. you've done a lot of trump rallies, but it was really interesting and you're glad you went. >> i am glad i went. working that crowd and talking to the people that showed up was really illuminating, chris. those comments on immigration, i met a lot of immigrants, a lot of folks from the dominican republic who themselves agree with trump's hard line stance on immigration. they said things to me like, look, i came here, quote, the right way, and i'm frustrated by what i see at the border. i'm frustrated by what i see in new york city in terms of how those migrants are getting taken care of when i feel like i haven't been taken care of in this city, and number one, for all of these voters, black, hispanic, white, jewish, all were there in that crowd. not surprising a reflection of what we're seeing in the polling, the economy, those pocketbook issues number one. take a listen to some of my

conversations. >> now we're becoming the bronx second class citizens. we have this influx of migrants that are coming in, and they're getting everything. and everyone in the bronx in the city of new york is forgotten. >> the bronx has a lot of crime, a lot of migrants are here. it's just getting out of control. >> when i came and he was the president, the gas was a lot cheaper than it is right now. i used to work in a supermarket. i was a manager. i saw the prices in food go up as soon as he left the presidency, so i want that back. >> i had a lot of off camera conversations too, chris, with folks who were like, hey, i don't want to get judged by people in my community, but i do support former president trump. a lot of people i met, their first time at a trump event, their first time they're planning to vote for trufrm. the first time they're going to vote for a republican for president. a lot of first-time voters period. >> one of the other things he said without any evidence at all is migrants are coming to the u.s., they're building an army

to launch an attack. i mean, when he goes to that extreme without any evidence whatsoever, that's not what lands? >> so what i'll tell you is that i asked voters about similar things he said in the past. i asked them about his position on the central park five. i asked them about some of his comments that have appealed to white supremacist, right? what voters say is that this is just how he talks. we don't like it, some of it's a bit offensive, but i look at what my life was like during the trump administration versus now, and i liked it better then. and this is something i've heard consistently as i continue to bring up some of what he said that is really striking, is historic, might be offense toif -- offensive to people, they're looking past that. >> the biden campaign ahead of that rally said let's remember trump is a lifelong racist from calling to execute innocent black teenagers to standing with violent white supremacist.

we all know who trump is, but when you listen to the folks that dasha's talking to, they know who trump is, and they're willing to put aside that part of it that some people, again, may find offensive in favor of what they believe is a better economic future and a whole range of things. i wonder what you think the strategy is here on both sides. >> well, it's striking that the biden campaign is even up, you know, with that ad and these messages trying to remind black voters, hispanic voters that as they say, trump is a racist because that's typically not something a democratic president wants to have to worry about, right? a democratic president typically wins in part of a huge base that is more diverse, includes a lot of black voters, a lot of hispanic voters. you win those swing states by

turning out those sorts of voters in cities, and you know, trump is likely to win the more rural parts of the states. so the fact that the biden campaign is right now not just focused on sort of turning them out, but trying to -- before they can turn them out for biden, convince them that, hey, wait a minute, you shouldn't like this guy trump is a sign of what the polls show, which is that trump is making inroads with these voters, and it's not necessarily that he's going to win them or win them all, but it is an election that people expect to be decided in, you know, three swing states by 30 or 40,000 voters that president biden cannot afford to have trump really make any inroads in these communities that used to be considered a stalwart part of the democratic base. >> yeah, david, to go back to the whole idea of that snaul small group of american who is will decide this election, trump worked a very familiar theme for him that nothing that is bad in the world would have happened or

would happen if he were president including the hostages being held by hamas. >> many of the hostages that you're waiting for and everybody's waiting for those hostages, many of them are dead. many of them are dead. and it's a horrible thing. it's a horrible thing, but many of those hostages are dead. some will be alive, but many of those hostages are dead. it's a very serious, horrible thing. it would have never happened if the election weren't rigged. >> so he's made that claim before, but at some point, my question is will those truly undecided voters look for actual policy discussions or proposed solutions or will simply saying it wouldn't have happened if i were president work with disaffected voters? >> so hamas pre-existed donald trump, and it will be there long after donald trump, and i think what he said is quite the embellishment if not a lie, but we also know from polling is that the vast majority of voters are not going to decide who they vote for based on the current

conditions in the middle east. but what donald trump continues to have in his favor is global unrest counts against the incumbent. so he is going to argue that inflation is too high. he will misrepresent economic numbers, and he will talk about war on the world stage. now, how would he handle it differently? he would green light netanyahu to do whatever he wanted. the whole conversation about whether the strategy by israel is approaching human rights violations or crossing that line, donald trump would ignore it and he would likely hand ukraine to vladimir putin. that is the way he would suggest bringing peace on the world stage. i don't think that's where the heartbeat of the country is on many of those issues. donald trump as a candidate against a sitting incumbent gets to run against the current state of affairs, and he sees value in that. what he often skips over is that he was president for four years, from the migrant crisis to vladimir putin marching across the world danger, also has contributed to his four years in office.

>> so ashley, trump, again, a familiar theme praising authoritarian leaders during the rally, and i want to play just a very small bit of that. >> when you see president xi of china, when you see kim jong-un of north korea, when you see putin and you see all of these people, they're at the top of their game, whether you like it or not. >> you covered the trump white house, and you know donald trump, where is this landing for him, and what's the danger in it? >> politically or, you know, it's a couple of things. there's the issue of -- this is who donald trump is at his core. he came in to office not really understanding the federal government, the presidency. he expected to be a monarch, and early on he was frustrated that the president doesn't have sort of divine right.

things have to go through congress. you can have a majority and still get thwarted. he's long admired these strong men. it's who he is. it's what he believes. it's interesting. it's a fine line he has to walk because so far he has not paid a tremendous penalty for comments like these, but there has been language that goes beyond this, where it feels like language from nazi germany that he's used and that is where his campaign is sensitive, and that is where he might overstep and pay a penalty with voters. >> time will tell. thank you both, and david you're staying with me. cyber hackers striking again, this time at the nation's largest catholic hospital chain, major disruptions and the delays it's causing in more than a dozen states. on my bed... my couch... my jacket or jeans in between washes... even shoes. febreze doesn't cover up odors with scent, but fights them... and freshens! over one thousand uses. febreze fabric refresher. here's to getting better with age.

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today in israel, more families just got the devastating news that their loved ones are dead. 230 days after they disappeared. early this morning, the israeli military recovered the bodies of three more hostages in gaza. at the same time, diplomatic pressure continues to escalate on israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the united nations' top court has ruled israel must stop its offensive in gaza. israel has said it does not recognize the icj's jurisdiction.

nbc's raf sanchez is reporting from tel aviv. what does all this mean? >> reporter: today's ruling by the international court of justice that israel must halt its offensive in rafah is final, and it is binding. so technically, israel, if it does not comply is breaching international law, but the court has no enforcement mechanism. that would fall to the u.n. security council, and israel is hoping that the united states would shield israel from any international action at that forum. now, just as that ruling was being read out at the court in the hague in the netherlands a little after 9:00 a.m. eastern, our team in gaza says israeli air strikes were pounding the al sha boar ra refugee camp, which just underscores that there is not a whole lot of optimism inside gaza or outside that this ruling will actually impact the war on the ground. in terms of potentially a little

legal wiggle room, israel has been ordered by the court to submit a report one month from now explaining how it is complying with today's ruling. some in israel feel that as long as the rafah operation is wrapped up by the time that report is submitted, israel can say that it is complying, even though the judge was very explicit today that this offensive must end immediately. israel also saying it has recovered the bodies of three hostages from northern gaza. that's a total of seven hostage bodies recovered over the last week. one of those found overnight is orion hernandez. he was a 30-year-old french-mexican dual national and the body of his girlfriend shani luke was found last week. cia director bill burns in

europe meeting with the head of the mossad spy agency as well as the prime minister of qatar and the hope is that he can revive these stalled, badly stalled cease fire negotiations. but frankly, there is not a whole lot of optimism that these talks, which have not produced a cease fire, which have not got any hostages out since november will see a breakthrough now. back to you. >> raf sanchez, thank you. right now, doctors and nurses in 140 hospitals across 19 states are having to work like it's the 1980s, forced to write down everything by hand from treatment orders and notes to detailed medical histories because of a massive ransomware attack. ascension health says there was a large scale attack on its digital systems more than two weeks ago and the systems are now down indefinitely. joining me "new york times" reporter reed ableson.

you've reported extensively on this. so walk us through what we know happened and what the impact has been on hospital staff and patients. >> so what seems to have happened is that the cyber attack forced ascension to bring down all of its electronic systems. so the electronic health records and all the digital ways in which it communicated had to be shut down. and that happened over two weeks ago, and basically, as you said, the nurses and doctors are having to do most of what they do by hand manually. i mean, literally charting by paper, so they have no ability to find out if a patient, what kind of medicine a patient had been on, what kind of treatments a patient had gotten, except by asking that patient, and a lot of doctors and nurses are very concerned. they're particularly worried about the possibility of medical errors.

when you know, if the electronic systems were working, you would check a prescription against the patient i.d. and make sure it was the right patient rate, medicine, that isn't possible anymore. things are slowly -- you know, they're finding work arounds. there's some talk that they might be able to at least visually look at the records at some point in the not too distant future, but everything now is being done pretty much by hand. >> this reminded me, what was it back in march there was another hospital system where it impacted their i think billing and payment routes. what's going on with these big attacks and do we know where they're coming from? >> this is the second really major attack. the first was against, you know, change health care, which is a unit of united health group, and that shut down all sorts of

communications between, you know, pharmacists and insurers, and for a while patients couldn't get prescriptions, and that was a massive system, you know, that handled, you know, 15 billion transactions. and this is a very large one of the nation's largest hospital groups, and so what seems to be happening is that, you know, cyber criminals with ties to, you know, states like russia or china have discovered, you know, this is where the u.s. is very vulnerable. it doesn't take much to get into a system and then to shut it down. >> we're all so dependent on technology. how many phone numbers, like how many phone numbers do you know by heart anymore, like if you really needed to get in touch with somebody in an emergency, it's scary stuff. reed abelson your reporting is fantastic. thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. >> thank you. and coming up, the battle to

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ohio's republican governor has ordered a special session of the overwhelmingly republican state legislature to get president biden on the november ballot. governor mike dewine says he has run out of patience with his

party's efforts to block what is normally routine. >> this is simply unacceptable. ohio is running out of time to get joe biden, the sitting president of the united states on the ballot this fall. failing to do so is simply not acceptable. this is a ridiculous, absurd situation. >> nbc news senior national political reporter henry gomez is on the ground in ohio, david jolly is back with us. henry, you can hear the frustration in dewine's voice. what exactly is going on, and what can we expect from this special session on tuesday? >> well, chris, governor dewine has acquired over the years a bit of a reputation for being ohio's grandpa. he's in the twilight of his political career. he's doing the job he's always wanted and every now and then grandpa gets mad at his grandkids and his kids, and he lets them know, and he halls

-- hauls them into a special session, which is what we're seeing here with governor dewine. where this leads is a bit of an open question. democrats have been talking about what they see as a poison pill attached to this whole movement. you've probably heard the governor in that news conference yesterday said he did want to also see a ban on foreign money going to a ballot initiative campaigns in ohio. this is something the state senate had included in its version of the bill two weeks ago. the house adjourned without considering that or a separate bill that would have passed this cleanly. there's some gamesmanship that's going on here in ohio, even though we're talking about republicans dominating everyone inch of government here. and so what we're going to look for on tuesday is to see whether there's some sort of compromise that can be hashed out. the house speaker a republican, he may need some democratic votes to continue to hold that

gavel. that may explain why he's been reluctant to move on this legislation that includes both the fix to keep -- or to put president biden on the ballot in november, but it also includes this ban on foreign money. now, why are they calling it a poison pill? it's because the republicans including the secretary of state frank rose have brought up how groups tied to a swiss billionaire were donating money to the abortion rights amendments that were on the ballot last year in ohio. democrats are worried, though, that any such ban might also impact donations from international labor unions. so we're going to see them arguing over this on tuesday and see if they can find their way to a clean bill. >> all right, david, everybody knows joe biden's chances of winning ohio are virtually nil, but he's going to be the nominee. he should be on the ballot, so why are state republicans even bothering to try to block this? >> because they can. because they can. and a credit to mike dewine, if

he's ohio's grandpa, that's probably a better descriptor. he remains one of the statesman, at least he tries to position himself as one in the party. he's certainly a mature governor, and you're seeing that. i think what you're seeing him push back against is there's always been cheating in politics since politics began, but it really manifested itself in the modern republican party. that is the theme of the 2020 election. in some cases, cheating is criminal. we see criminal defendants now in arizona and georgia, some of the highest ranking republican officials from the 2020 election are now facing criminal indictments, but sometimes it's actually through legal maneuvers, voter suppression, voter dilution, gerrymandering, keeping people off the ballot box. in this case, they would be disenfranchising ohio voters who want to cast a vote for the sitting president of the united states, they're doing it because they can. mike dewine is saying this is stupid. this is foolish. get back in session and fix this so that ohio voters, not joe

biden have a chance to exercise their democracy in november. >> henry gomez, former congressman david jolly, thank you both. up next, a terrifying site in oklahoma as yet another monster tornado touches down in that state. a top meteorologist who's located right in tornado alley will join us to talk about why scientists now say the frequency of these destructive storms is only going to get worse. worse. [♪♪] how you feel can be affected by the bacteria in your gut.

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yet another devastating round of tornadoes, this time tearing through oklahoma. one witness told the local reporter it looks like medusa as massive multivortex twisters move in. ripping up trees, flipping cars, even pulling roofs right off the top of houses. the storm system al brought rain and hail. look at this stuff. some of it was bigger, the size of a tennis ball, and the danger may not be over yet. there are more tornado warnings for the holiday weekend ahead. this year has already smashed the nation's average. up by 27% as of this week, and there could be weeks more to go in the season. here to discuss it, mark fox, meteorologist in charge at the weather forecast office in norman, oklahoma. mark, you recently said that you've posted more tornado warnings than you ever have before in your career.

the obvious question is why is it so bad right now and is it potentially tied to climate change? >> well, this is one of those years that is very active, of course. we are still well behind what we saw in 2011, and 2024 is currently number 6 on the number of confirmed tornadoes across the united states. and, you know, so we're pretty high up on the list, and right ahead of us by about ten or so tornadoes is 1999, which of course needs quite a bit in oklahoma, from may 3rd, and you know, even 2013 was not quite this active with the number of tornadoes. but what we're seeing is a very typical year. and, you know, climate change and some of the data that comes across with the frequency and number of tornadoes, it's really inconclusive, as far as the traditional severe weather season, and of course we're in that traditional severe weather season right now. the climate data maybe suggests

that there may be a few more output of seasonal tornadoes, but for april, may and june, especially here in oklahoma, this is fairly average, a little bit above average for this year, but the season is still ongoing, and we're still going to do everything we can to keep people out of harm's way for these tornadoes that have been occurring and will occur until the end of storm season. >> i have been reading, mark, that tornado alley has already shifted some. i wonder if the risk area looks like it's going to grow. will people who aren't used to worrying about tornadoes find that they have to start thinking about tornadoes? >> well, especially what we saw people in oklahoma is tornado season occurs from january 1st all the way through december 31st. so tornadoes are, you know, starting to spread out a little bit more. especially in the way of recorded tornadoes. but one thing to know is, you know, we have a lot of data that goes back from about 1950 or so

of accurate data recordings but really in the last 20 or 30 years, when every single one of us has a cell phone in our pocket, we're starting to record a lot of these smaller tornadoes. the number of ef 1 or higher tornadoes really has not changed much over time. it's still fairly flat. the number of the so-called weaker tornadoes, the ef0s and the low end ef1s have increased. most of that increase could be explained away by the number of photographs that we get of them, increased radar technology, and we're starting to detect more of them, but the good news is the number that we saw last night in southwest oklahoma, those thankfully have kind of held steady, and we continue to do the best we can to keep our citizens safe. and that's what we do at the national weather service is predict these storms so people can make good decisions. >> i have a feeling you're not going to get a whole lot of

sleep in the next month or so while the tornado season is still alive. i hope you have a good holiday weekend. mark fox, thank you. and coming up, memorial day travel mayhem, right now you're looking at the busiest airport in the world. that is atlanta's hartsfield-jackson international. how crazy will the rush get? we'll head to one other very busy travel hub ahead. you can watch the best parts of our show anytime on you tube go to msnbc.com/jansing. stay close, more "chris jansing reports" right after this. if reports" right after this. if in real time. (jen) so we partner with verizon. their solution for us? a private 5g network. (ella) we now get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. our customers get what they want, when they want it. (jen) now we're even smarter and ready for what's next. (vo) achieve enterprise intelligence. it's your vision, it's your verizon.

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