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on memorial day. now, there are no official stance on how many americans are in rome right now, but i can tell you that i have seen and hard many of them around here, and it's not surprising because, while americans are among the top nationalities that visit rome and italy every year in every season, and the love is reciprocated. italians love american tourists because they are typically big spenders and appreciate the italian way of life. there's only one thing that italians find a bit weird about american tourists when they ask for a cappuccino after lunch or dinner. remember, if you want to blend in only order that at breakfast. >> claudio lavanga, that's going to do it for us this hour. more news coming up with katy tur next.
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i just had an espresso so i'm doing it the right way according to the italians. good to be with you, i'm katy tur. quote, i would rather eat my own foot out of a bear trap. that's how one libertarian voter described voting for former president trump if they had to. trump pitched himself at the libertarian party's national convention, and was nearly drowned out by the sound of raucous booing and jeers from the crowd. >> there will be no more liberty for anyone in our country combined with us in a partnership. we're asking that of the libertarians. we must work together, combined with us. you have to combine with us. [ booing ] we cannot give crooked joe biden four more years. we cannot give crooked joe biden four more years. >> i have never heard him booed like that. at one point during saturday's speech, punches were thrown in
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the audience. it wasn't just trump's appearance there. delegates didn't want to hear his name, booing at the mention of donald trump and other speeches throughout the weekend event. why would donald trump go. why would a man who prefers friendly crowds and an entourage of allies put himself through what you just saw? why would anyone, frankly? according to a trump official, if you wanted to compete for votes, you have to go to where the nontraditional republicans are. you can't expect them to show up to you. joining us now, dasha burns, nbc news senior politics reporter, jonathan allen and the atlantic staff writer and author of the book "thank you for your servitude," mark leibovich. i have never heard donald trump booed like that at an event he has chosen to go. >> not the typical environment, typical crowd. the campaign points to him
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trying to play in places like minnesota and virginia, him going to the bronx. he's going to unexpected places and they're saying, listen, he may get booed when he's showing up in unfriendly territory. certainly if you know former president trump t that is not the reception he wanted or expected, but they're putting him out there. >> let's listen to more of them. i thought it was good. i think he pandered to libertarians and their grievances, if he can do any of the things he promised. i think that will be a move in the right direction. but, you know, we're not hopeful. he didn't do it great. >> i would be more aligned with kennedy than i am trump. and i think that trump's tone was a little threatening to us, saying that we have to vote for him. we have to nominate him. >> if he promises to be a libertarian, congressional members and his administration, i would vote for him.
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>> that's what he just said, though. >> he's promising. i got to see action. >> reporter: what would that action look luke before he's elected? >> i think there will be action before the actual voting. >> and talking about donald trump threatening as that one gentleman mentioned ago. let's listen to donald trump saying that, what he was talking about. >> the libertarian party should nominate trump for president of the united states. whoa. that's nice. that's nice. [ booing ] only if you want to win. only if you want to win. maybe you don't want to win. maybe you don't want to win. thank you. no. only do that if you want to win. if you want to lose, don't do that. keep getting your 3% every four years. >> john, the way he said nominate trump reminded me of james austin johnson on snl, it was like spot on.
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let me ask you why the libertarians, it's a different party's convention. a nominee shows up at a rival party's convention, but trump's policies, why are the libertarians so hostile towards those? >> it's amazing to hear them mocking them for getting 3% in presidential elections as he's begging for their votes. it's very trumpian and a little amusing, but also, you know, you would think would undercut his point. to dasha's point, he is trying to reach out here. he ran in 2020 completely toward his base. that did not work for him. and so i think you're seeing an alteration here. but the reason libertarians would be, you know, uncomfortable with trump is that he has a lot of policies that his critics say are fascist and authoritarian. you know, you saw the crackdown on protests during the george floyd summer. you saw, you know, his treatment of various groups that defied him, the treatment of his own allies and his cabinet, firing
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people, so there was just a lot of stuff during his presidency that i think libertarians looked at and said this is exactly the opposite. >> it is interesting that he's showing up there. i don't know how much they like the image of him getting booed like that, being out there, john , but he's also, he showed up in the bronx. he did show up to blue states during the 2016 campaign. he also went to deep red places that people said were not worth going to because republicans were going to get the votes anyway. what do you make of this nontraditional strategy as he's doing it this time around. >> i think it makes a lot of sense for politicians to go talk to voters and go ask them for their votes. i think when they go to places that are nontraditional, that are unexpected, you know, they may not win over the room, but they may win a few votes while they're there. they may win word of mouth.
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it's old school politics. i don't think there's anything shocking or wrong. it's not the way base politics has been practiced. >> donald trump hasn't been doing that for a while now. mark, what do you think? >> i think that you can look any number of which ways at the strategy behind this, why he would go there. i think there's probably more simple strategy which is that this probably is a schedule or someone who brought this idea to him or the campaign. it did look like a disaster. having said that, i agree with jonathan. certainly the south bronx event and events like it where you can, you know, maybe juice up your numbers on black and brown voters and you can argue about the crude of a thing like that or the effectiveness of a thing like that. that got a ton of media. it sent a message that went far beyond the people in the crowd that day. i think the libertarian event was a bit of a closed box, but, i think, look, it's worth a
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short trip for him. it was easy to do. a lot of press out of it. it's not a good look to be booed, but, you know, he did it, and i actually agree with jonathan also, i think the 3% line was pretty funny. >> in conversations with allies of president biden, do they see this as a threat, donald trump doing these outside of the box events? are they trying to counter it? are they speaking beyond their base, mark? >> i mean, they certainly see it as a threat. i don't see any signs of them doing anything to counter it as far as where biden is going. although, apparently there's a big rural outreach program the biden campaign has to try to depress the numbers a little bit or depress the margins a little bit for what trump is going to get in white rural areas of swing states. i think, though, clearly they have to pay attention especially again with black and brown voters to the margins he seems to be cutting into. that's a very fertile place for trump to be, and they're obviously commit to go it a great deal. i'm sure the biden campaign is
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certainly mindful of it. >> what about this idea from republicans in congress, dasha, that donald trump needs to nominate somebody as a vice president who is a more moderate republican, more traditional style republican to convince those wavering. does that say that the republican party is worried about consolidating republicans, that they understand, i mean, we saw the libertarians not really wanting to be there. you can argue libertarians are more aligned with republicans. you can make an argument both ways on that. but the republican party itself is not fully united, going into this november election, because there is that stubborn strip of republican voters who think donald trump is repulsive. >> i think you could look at the data to support that sort of disunity argument. nikki haley has been winning that 25%. >> she's not even on the ballot. >> that's a message. that's not saying i hope haley
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wins, that's saying i'm not voting for trump. only republicans can vote in that and you still see her succeeding there. her endorsing trump, somewhat begrudgingly might make a difference. >> are her voters going to listen to her or are they sending a message they don't want donald trump. >> she said that, just because i'm doing that doesn't mean my voters are going to follow. >> are they her voters or anti-trump voters that want another option. >> the biden campaign is trying to get the voters, doubled down on ad spending targeting those haley folks. we are seeing radical realignment happening among both parties but certainly the republican party has an identity crisis to solve. >> one of the other things out there, and i have been waiting for donald trump to show his hand on this, "the washington post" is reporting that privately, behind closed doors, mark, that donald trump is making promises to donors that
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are more extreme regarding israel and the palestinians, promising to crush the protests, send any foreign protestering back to their home countries that they would not tolerate it. this is something i have been wondering about. you listen to the pro palestinian protesters at college campuses or the ones that decided not to vote in the primary or to vote for a candidate, send a message to president biden. voting for donald trump would not make things better for the palestinian cause. >> that is true. i mean, you see them with their genocide joe signs. these are not biden voters. they are furious, primarily, about biden when you talk to them. i spent a fair amount of time on a couple of campuses over the last couple of months. you hear that, and the obvious follow up you want to ask them, do you think this is going to go better for you or the palestinians under a donald trump presidency? i mean, you can imagine what some of these crackdowns could
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look like, and we obviously know he's willing to do it, as we have seen around the lafayette square thing a couple of years ago when he was president and a number of other things he said in the rhetoric. i mean, that private rhetoric doesn't surprise me at all. he'll be much more emboldened to ask on that. >> why haven't we heard that publicly, why just behind closed doors? >> he's been very careful to allow people to read into his position. what you hear him saying is the war coming to an end quickly. on the pro-palestinian side, he has been, obviously he's not calling, you know, for an end to the war in a way that's, you know, positive for pro palestinian forces and at the same time, it allows for some wiggle room there as opposed to, and mark, i think appropriately said, it's not surprising what he's saying behind closed doors is putting the punctuation on that. should be ending quickly because
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israel should be, you know, finishing the war with strength rather than simply the war coming to an end in a peaceful cease fire. >> because you cover the democrats so much as well, i want to ask a bigger question about president biden, his campaign strategy. do you feel like it feels at all to you, since you're the expert on this, like clinton in 2016, this feeling that just convincing voters that donald trump is a buffoon or a threat or a danger to democracy is all they need to do, that they're relying on that too heavily? >> i think there's some of that katy. it remains to be seen. there's a lot of months left to change the campaign. i think that there is a real risk in running a referendum on a challenger. donald trump used to be president, but he isn't right now. i think most voters look at the person in office first, then the next person, and they are running this anti-trump campaign at a time when trump is not in charge. that's difficult.
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it's a difficult sell to voters. i'm not saying it can't happen, they can't win that way, but typically that construct is a poor one. >> jonathan allen, mark leibovich, thank you very much for being here on this memorial day. what benjamin netanyahu just said about an israeli strike that killed dozens in a gaza tent camp and what a bipartisan group of u.s. lawmakers is doing in taiwan today. first, though, what to expect from tomorrow's closing arguments in donald trump's hush money/election interference trial which begins again at 9:30. don't go anywhere. we're back in 90 seconds. we're back in 90 seconds chy pet? (♪♪) with chewy, save 20% on your first pharmacy order so you can put an end to the itch. get flea and tick medication delivered right to your door. [panting] nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid before it begins. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with just one pill a day.
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tomorrow is a big day. the closing arguments in the trump hush money/election interference trial begin at 9:30 in the morning. joining us now, former manhattan district attorney and msnbc legal analyst, catherine christian. the defense is going to start first tomorrow, 9:30 sharp. what's your expectation for how the day is going to go? >> i expect it to go all day. there will be a break between the defense summation and the prosecution summation, and the last thing either side wants to do is bore the jury to death. you want to keep it simple. be very tight. but argue your points. the defense should be arguing reasonable doubt. it's easy for me to say, don't
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listen to your client. but they should focus in on what's missing. what the people the approximation didn't prove. they should go, you know, just bring it out there. they're going to talk about michael cohen. they have to. they have to just hammer how incredible he is. what the defense wants is to have the jury think, if they don't believe michael cohen, then the case is over. that's what the defense would argue and should argue. go ahead. >> i don't mean to interrupt you. are there some key points or key moments from michael cohen's testimony in cross-examination that you think are going to come up? >> well, what he didn't say, again, this is the defense, you know, michael cohen has direct evidence that donald trump knew about this scheme, you know, the installments, and it was done, you know, to hide the fact that they paid off ms. daniels, why? as a conspiracy to promote his
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election by unlawful means. the unlawful means being a violation of federal election law. there really was no testimony, if there was any conversation between michael cohen and trump and weisselberg about we have to do this because, you know, that money we gave her was illegal under the federal election law. there was no testimony about that. there really was no explicit testimony from michael cohen that it was actually a discussion with trump about, okay, allen and i said we'll call these legal expenses, and then we'll have this installment plan, and we're going to do this because we're going to hide the fact that we -- there was not really that. of course the prosecution will say there's evidence of that. he didn't have to, like, write out, you know, a letter, donald trump saying this is why we're doing it. why else would this have been done? we have so many witnesses. hope hicks, for instance, who talked about the crisis of the
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campaign when the "access hollywood" tape hit, and also her conversation with donald trump about denying that he had a sexual encounter with stormy daniels and also hope hicks, it was really a slur on michael cohen, but it helps the prosecution when she said, michael cohen would not do anything in the goodness of his heart, meaning pay off stormy daniels, therefore he had to have paid her off because donald trump wanted him to and he was going to get reimbursed. so that slap at michael cohen actually is helpful to the prosecution. >> yeah, there's so many witnesses the prosecution can bring up, and, you know, is the defense going to bring up anyone more than michael cohen. are they going to bring up bob costello who everyone has put it, even though in favor of donald trump a disaster on the stand. i want to show something he posted on truth social. i wonder if this gives a hint about jury instructions and what they might be. i know we haven't gotten an announcement from judge merchan, but i wonder if he has said
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something to the prosecution or defense, and i'm asking because donald trump said this, the reason the highly conflicted judge merchan had come up with three fake options for the jury to choose from without requiring them to be unanimous, which is completely un-american and unconstitutional is the corrupt soros, talking about three options for the jury to choose from without requiring them to be unanimous. is he talking about federal election crime, state election crime, tax crime as the underlying felony charge, and do you have a sense that they know what the jury instructions are going to be? >> well, i would hope that the defense and the prosecution know what the jury instructions are going to be since they're giving their summations tomorrow. i understand why the press and why we would all want it, why the judge didn't release it. he wants to make sure the first time the jury hears about this, and the jury is abiding by judge's rules, and not watching this right now is the first time they hear about this is
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tomorrow, so that post by donald trump is sort of a hint, if you can believe donald trump, that maybe the instruction to the jury will be that the unlawful means conspire to promote an election by unlawful means could be the federal election law violation, could be tax crimes, state tax crime violation, so i have a feeling that that's probably what donald trump is talking about because his lawyers have a copy of the instructions the judge will give tomorrow. >> a gift for the prosecution to have those all three as options and you don't have to be unanimous on all three. >> definitely it's a gift. if the jury believes all of the evidence, it's a gift to them. >> catherine, you're going to be back with us -- say that one more time. >> and if there's a conviction, it will be an issue on appeal. >> you'll be back tomorrow and we'll go all over all of this again for our special coverage at 10:00 a.m. eastern. you all have been watching in
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weapons that taiwan ordered from the united states are coming, according to a senior u.s. lawmaker. this as a bipartisan congressional delegation met with taiwan's new president today, despite warnings from china not to do it. the group is being led by congressman mike mccall. the meeting comes as chinese military vessels conducted drills around taiwan. nbc news correspondent has filed this report from taipei. >> reporter: there's no doubt taiwan is unhappy with the decision by america to send a delegation to the island of taiwan to become the first group of foreign leaders to meet with taiwan's new president. they sent a message directly to american congressional leaders telling them not to come. this group, a bipartisan group led by the house foreign affairs chairman mike mccaul seemed to
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not be concerned. the united states has taiwan's back. it comes in the form of military aid that recently passed supplemental package and the delivery of weapons which have been on back order for some time. making a promise to the president that they were going to do everything they can to speed that process up. but there is a bigger conversation here, and that's about the impact that taiwan has on the global economy, an economy that's directly connected to the every day lives of average americans. the semiconductor industry here is robust, and important. they make 90% of the world's most important semiconductors. these are chips are in everything from your iphone to your car to the appliances in your kitchen. if china were to attack, the industry would be disrupted, perhaps catastrophically so, and that could lead to a shutdown around the world. this american delegation making it clear that they will continue to have taiwan's back. what they aren't saying
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definitively, if china were to attack that america would specifically send their own military resources here to be a defense backstop for taiwan, although it is something they're not necessarily ruling out. the overall message is clear, though, leaders of taiwan, leaders here of the united states believe the two sides have a lot in common, and they need to continue to work together. >> ryan nobles, thank you very much. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says the air strike that killed dozens of people in rafah was a tragic mishap. they are investigating the case and will draw conclusions because this is israel's policy. israel had said the bombing killed two hamas leaders. and it is just days after the united states top court ordered israel to stop its military operation in southern gaza. nbc news international correspondent raf sanchez has the latest from ashdod, israel. >> reporter: after a weekend of intensive talks involving the cia director, an israeli official tells nbc news they
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believe cease fire negotiations could restart as early as this week, but for now, the fighting rages on in gaza and that is despite an order from the u.n.'s highest court for israel to immediately halt its military offensive in the south of the strip. last night, a new and deadly strike in the city of rafah. >> overnight, fire and horror in rafah. an israeli camp for displaced citizens, setting tents and cars aflame. at least 40 people consider killed, many of them women and children. one of the deadliest bombings in rafah of the entire war. the red crescent said it happened in a designated safe zone, but israel says the strike killed two senior hamas commanders, responsible for attacks in the occupied west bank. adding it is aware of reports indicating that as a result of the strike and fire that was ignited several civilians in the area were harmed.
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the incident is under review. the u.n.'s highest court has ordered israel to halt the rafah offensive but has no power to enforce the ruling and israel giving no sign it will comply, saying hostages are being meld in rafah. >> we will not stop fighting for their freedom. >> reporter: on sunday, hamas fired rockets toward central israel for the first time in four months, with sirens blaring in tel aviv, the idf says the rockets came from rafah. meanwhile, further up the coast, new questions about the safety of u.s. service personnel after four small army boats broke their moorings in heavy seas, washing up in israel and gaza. the chefs were delivering aid through an american-built temporary pier. u.s. central command saying no injuries have been reported and the pier remains fully functional. but three u.s. personnel did suffer noncombat injuries last week the pentagon says.
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nba legend bill walton died today following a lengthy battle with cancer, according to the nba. walton was known for his play on the court, broadcasting career, and colorful personality. he won three state player of the years awards and two national championships, drafted by the portland trail blazers where he was an nba mvp. in a statement, adam silva called him truly one of a kind. the family of two time pga
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tour winner grayson murray says the 30-year-old died by suicide. murray was competing in fort worth on friday afternoon when he suddenly withdrew the next morning. we learned of his death. nbc news correspondent, kaylee hartung has more on his life, career, and struggles with mental health. >> reporter: pro golfer grayson murray's family grieving the loss of a son and brother, his parents saying in a statement, life wasn't always easy for grayson, and although he took his own life, we know he rests peacefully now. the golf world devastated by the loss of the two-time pga tour winner. >> it's so competitive out here. we all want to beat each other, and something like this happens, and you realize that we're all just humans. >> late friday, murray suddenly withdrew from the charles schwab challenge in fort worth, citing an illness. >> grayson had dealt with
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challenges, mental health challenges. he was open about it. >> reporter: on saturday morning, pga commissioner, jay monahan broke the news of his death, saying murray's parents were adamant the tournament should go on, with players wearing red and black ribbons to honor the hometown carolina hurricanes. he burst on to the pro golf scene, playing in the u.s. open at 19 years old, capturing his first pga tour title in 2017. his struggles with alcoholism and mental health. when he won the sony open title earlier this year. >> grayson murray has pulled it off. he's a winner again. >> it seemed as if murray had made a career comeback. after the victory, he reflected on what it took to get there. >> i would not be in this position now today if i didn't, you know, put that drink down eight months ago. >> tributes pouring in from his fellow players on social media.
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millions of americans found themselves until the path of deadly tornadoes this weekend as storms swept across the great plains and southern states. at least 21 people have died. nbc news correspondent priscilla thompson has more. >> there's a tornado right there. >> oh, there it is. go, go, go. go, go, go. >> reporter: dozens of tornadoes touching down across the south this memorial day weekend. flattening buildings like this gas station in texas. heart stopping new video showing the moment an ef2 tornado ripped through. >> it's okay. it's okay. >> reporter: 125 people were seeking shelter inside. incredibly residents say no one
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was seriously injured! >> it was loud. >> reporter: multiple states experiencing the weather. >> like we got hit by lightning or something. that was the worst i experienced. >> reporter: the powerful storms brought golf ball sized hail and took out trees and power lines. >> i'm trying to wrap my head around. >> reporter: monica vasquez, her husband and five children hid in a closet as a tornado tore through their neighborhood. the roof was completely ripped off their home. what was going through your mind? >> that i don't want to die. >> reporter: the national weather service says more than 400 reported tornadoes have slammed the country this month alone. the most since 2019. and forecasters predict more treacherous weather ahead. a very dark cloud hanging over the unofficial start of summer. and in florida, people are feeling major heat according to the national weather service. the state hit three record high temperatures wednesday. in west palm beach, fort lauderdale, and miami, all in
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the mid-90s, and it's only may. joining us from miami is nbc news correspondent, marissa parra, and nbc news meteorologist melissa grossman. it does look beautiful where you are, i have to say it. >> reporter: it is beautiful. but i can confirm what the national weather service is reporting, katy, it's hot. if you see me glistening, we can either blame the sunscreen which has a little bit of a shimmer, i think it's sweat. it's hot. and it's the unofficial start to summer, but we are already seeing those hot temperatures. you look at the map, the weather map. you can see across south florida, you can see 99 degrees in palmdale, so 90 something here in miami, but that heat index in the triple digits, and it's a very familiar sight to see for those of us here last summer. obviously people coming from across the country, up north, the tourists coming to miami for memorial day. they might not be used to the heat. i wanted to get a sense of how floridians are feeling about today, people used to the heat. i wanted to get a sense of what
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they think about the trends, and a here's what we heard. >> we don't want to go outside anymore because it's so hot. it's been difficult to even, like, breathe outside. we knew when we came to the beach that we needed to be prepared, and just keep ourselves cool so we could stay as long as we want without having to be forced out because we're just, you know, too hot. >> reporter: so, katy, you may remember, we did so much reporting on the record high temperatures last summer. i mean, it was consecutive, that heat index in the triple digits in south florida. it's a lot easier to escape the heat when you're out here. you have an access to an umbrella, you're able to get water. tape a dip in the water, the ocean, which is also getting increasingly warmer. the big concern is people who have to work outside for their jobs, and so of course we'll continue to follow that throughout the summer, but here i'm happy to say, katy, a lot of people are practicing good heat etiquette, if you will, you see the umbrellas behind me. people seem to be doing a good job of staying hydrated. when it comes to heat
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exhaustion, katy, they seem like simple things but they are so important for safety. >> very serious, you are one of those people who have to work outside on days like this. i hope you're following your own advice. you look great, by the way, i think it is the sunscreen, it's sparkling, glistening, doesn't look like sweat. maybe your sweat is sparkly, you're lucky. michelle, let me ask you about the forecast as we head into the week. what should we watch for? >> more of the same. steamy conditions. we're looking at the possibility of 30 records broken, and it's that steam that's aiding some of the storms. we're starting to see the storms once again, and we're looking at places like the great lakes, parts of new england and to the northeast, mid atlantic, the carolinas, down into the southeast. a huge area could see strong storms and major cities, new york city, philadelphia, d.c., down in charleston, montgomery, winds gusting over 60 miles per
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hour. that's enough to bring down trees, power lines, cause power outages, and remember, it's really really warm, like we just mentioned, large hail up to 2 inches or greater. that could cause damage on its own. this is what it looks like on radar. it's starting to fire up once again. the daytime heating and the umph that the storms need. we have a severe thunderstorm watch box, in the yellow and portions of the southeast, and portions of the northeast, the mid atlantic. we're looking at severe thunderstorm warnings. that's where we're seeing the orange boxes. those storms could have winds of 60 miles per hour. could contain some hail, where you some purple popping, and that often indicates where we're seeing the hail. and seeing heavy downpours. a lot of moisture has happened too. some of the storms could drop easily. 4 to 5 inches of rain. through new york city, portions of the mid atlantic, and that's going to cause slow downs getting back from memorial day weekend from the beaches and the lakes. the dark blue colors, scranton,
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philadelphia, that is the likeliest spot for seeing flash flooding. particularly dangerous on the roads and in your car. this is why. we're looking at the chance of generally an inch to 2 inches, 3 inches, 5 inches, where we see training storms. they kind of get stuck and train and spin over the same area, so the ground gets very saturated quickly, and we're going to see the chance for flash flooding. extends to new england, the southeast, and parts of the great lakes and upper midwest could see rain as well. that's going to cause slowdowns at the airports, boston, new york, philadelphia, d.c., major airports could see slowdowns, and we're going to see the slow downs on the road as well. i-80, i-95. a big one. washington, d.c., lots of people on the road, especially on a holiday. let's switch to the other big story because that is the heat. we're looking at 18 million people impacted by heat alerts, whether we have a heat advisory, that's in the orange.
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new orleans, like charles, waco, del rio, and we have heat warnings until the pink. houston, san antonio, laredo, brownsville, looking at temperatures well above normal for this time of year, in to the triple digits. look at these numbers, katy. 104 in san angelo. 14 degrees above what is typical for the time of year. unofficial start of summer feeling like the middle of summer. >> it got really hot really fast. michelle grossman, thank you very much. >> sure. and millions of americans have felt the pain of the child care shortage that intensified during the pandemic, especially military families, along with the expanded cost and long wait lists, military families move frequently some work nontraditional hours. it is a big enough problem that some are considering leaving the service. joining us now, nbc news senior digital white house reporter shannon pettypiece. i remember reading a story like this, i think it was last year, and a woman had to drive an hour to a day care, an hour back,
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another base because her base didn't offer it. what is so hard about getting child care to the people who are doing this country a favor by offering themselves up for service in. >> i think anyone who has looked for child care knows there's month's long wait lists, sometimes over a year that families have to be on. that's not practical for military families who often move with two just two month's notice and move an average of once or twice a year. the military does provide its own child care but like all child care providers, it's struggling to find child care workers and has 9,000 children on the wait list for slots at the military child care centers that are on bases. it is an issue that the military acknowledges, and they say it's not just a hardship for families, but it's also an issue when it comes to recruiting and retaining soldiers and our national security. i spoke to one army official
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about this. here's what she had to say. >> child care is extremely important to the ongoing recruitment and retention efforts for the army for soldiers. the army marks child care as one of its critical priorities in recruitment and retention of the force, and our ability to provide quality child care to soldiers and families is directly impacting for force readiness and is a force enabler. >> and she said the army is taking steps. they're trying to offer bonuses, talking about career advancement and priorities. they're trying to become more competitive on wages. they have very high standards, competing not just with other child care centers and public schools. other places, fast food restaurants paying $18 an hour. >> let me ask you about what the military is doing about this. it seems like it would be an easy fix to get more availability of day cares on bases. more that can watch kids.
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wouldn't they want to do what they can to be able to retain people? >> right. and they said the numbers are improving. but still, about 1 in 5 child care positions are currently vacant, within the army. and they are also saying, though, it's not just a solution with on base day cares, people involved in the issue say there has to be a broader change and policy about how child care is looked at in the military, how it is used and implemented but also just the child care system across the country as a whole, which continues, again, to face access issues and affordability issues, and if that was solved for all americans, it would also have that trickle down effect of helping military families as well. >> it's legislation that comes up in congress, never makes it to the floor, never makes it to a vote. it's always the thing that gets cut out of legislation, when looking to make the legislation cheaper or define bipartisan compromise, it's certainly depressing. when it comes to the military, though, they spend so much money
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on recruitment. you would think they would want to spend a little bit more on retention as well. shannon pettypiece, thank you very much, coming up next hour, what donald trump is preparing to do after the jury reaches a verdict in his first criminal trial. could be this week. what some republicans are hoping trump is looking for in a running mate. they want somebody not maga extreme. stay with us. another hour of news is ahead. another hour of news is ahead. (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so i wear a lot of hats. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (waitress) all with the security features we need. (aaron) because my businesses are my life. man, the fish tacos are blowing up! so whatever's next... we're cooking with fire. let's make it happen! (vo) switch to the partner businesses rely on.
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good to be with you. i'm katy tur. tomorrow, lawyers and former president donald trump's hush money/election interference trial will deliver their closing arguments. it will be each side's final chance to drive home their points before a jury of 12 new yorkers will decide if donald trump is guilty, potentially making him the first former president to be convicted of a crime. and while we don't know what they will decide, we do know how the biden campaign will respond, planning to aggressively capitalize on this historic moment, regardless of the verdict, which is exactly what donald trump's team will be doing in exactly the opposite way. "the new york times" reports that trump plans to rely on his predictable playbook, you know it. releasing a fire hose of angry and vengeful attacks on everyone he thinks is targeting him. joining us now, dasha burns, the hill senior political
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correspondent, amy barnes and political white house reporter and author of the west wing play book, eli stokels. we have seen this play book a lot now since 2015. >> yeah, i mean, for as unprecedented as this whole situation is with a former president, you know, going through a criminal trial, still the possibility of conviction hanging out there, donald trump has responded to situations like this over and over and over again throughout the last several years in his entire life really in the same way. he has always tried to inoculate himself against inconvenient outcomes, harsh judgments by telling people that the system is rigged, that the election will be rigged unless he wins. that congress is engaged in witch hunts, the media is based unless he happens to like the story. it's a self-serving narrative. we have seen it over and over again, those of us who have covered it, and we have seen it throughout the trial. we have seen it when he stands
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there before reporters and has railed about this trial, and certainly, you know, a lot depends on the outcome. what the jury determines, what the judge's possible sentencing is, but i think it's safe to say that donald trump be railing against the process, even if he's acquitted, and certainly i think the more unknown situation is what happens if he's actually found guilty of this. and that obviously has to do with the judge, but that would be really uncharted waters for donald trump, even, but certainly for the country. >> and for voters, and there's a lot of polling that suggests that voters will take it seriously, dasha, if he is convicted of a crime. they won't want to vote for him. does the trump campaign see those polls? do they worry about those polls? are they doing anything regarding that? >> we saw a fundraising e-mail come through today, where the trump team is asking for a million responses by midnight to the question would you vote for
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me if i were arrested. so they know that this is something that can potentially move the needle if it's a conviction here. the number one thing they're preparing for is messaging and when and how to message that. the challenge for them has been in the courtroom, regardless of what the outcome here is, they want to barn storm the battleground states and message to the point that eli was making. >> i wonder if it's been a challenge, exactly for them, though, amy, donald trump being on the campaign trail. a lot of news organizations would not be covering his rallies day in and day out. fox news doesn't even cover his rallies day in and day out. the courtroom and trial, that gets covered day in and day out, so has it been a negative for donald trump or has it been a positive seeing him inside this courtroom and getting the attention he's getting? >> well, i think he likes it. he loves the attention on himself. he's made it a point to go to the cameras before and after, and he's done that daily, and
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then he's also capitalized on where he is. he did this rally in new york city this past week. he's not campaigning as much as he would like, obviously. he can't be in the swing states. he loves these moments, as eli said, for kind of proving that, you know, that everyone is against them and that he's going to win anyway. and look at the history. look what they have done to me with two impeachments, with the mueller investigation. i have always come out okay. i've been innocent, and here is another example, and so he's going to continue to use this. i think they see this as working to his benefit in a way. >> there's polling that shows he's winning in a lot of battleground states and president biden is losing in some key places. at the same time, president biden is raking in a lot more fundraising dollars. donald trump is taking in a lot of money. it's not as much, and it's not coming from small donors, which is what he relied on heavily in 2016. is the small donor deficit an
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indicator? should we read into that? >> potentially. i mean, i will tell you that his team is not taking anything for granted. they're seeing the same numbers that we are. this is why they want to get out into the battle ground states. there's a tv performance right outside of the court, but they know you have to be on the ground, and you have to be organized in these places. >> all right. let's take about the biden team. we have seen a lot of coverage against them. they are planning to aggressively capitalize on donald trump's courthouse appearances. whether or not he's convicted or what does that look like? what does that mean? >> it fits into the president's full message on democracy, and they're going to continue to, you know, they have been very smart about getting out of the way of the trial and not speaking so much about it. you have seen the president only address it a couple of times, once at the white house correspondents dinner in jest. but i think he's going to continue to talk more about
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democracy and how much of a threat donald trump is to democracy. that's something that played well for him in 2020. that's something that the campaign is continuing. it's a main pillar of their argument going in. i think a lot of democrats at the same time say, okay, it has to be democracy and, it has to be democracy and the economy, and immigration, and all of the stuff that's happening, you know, the war in gaza. they would like to see more of this happen, so you're going to see the president sort of insert all of these things into the broader argument of democracy as well. >> what happens, though, eli, if he's acquitted. how does the biden team message on an acquittal? >> i think they still are going to be fine with the contrast of saying, you know, the trial is over, let's turn to the campaign, and i am not the candidate who's just on trial for several weeks for paying hush money to a porn star allegedly. i think they are fine with the contrast. they are eager for donald trump to be out there more. they want this contrast.
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they wanted to move up the debates and have the first debate next month. they want people to start to see this election as the choice between the two of them. they do not want this to be a referendum on president biden's term in office, even though they're proud of a lot of the accomplishments. they want the two of them campaigning side by side. if president trump is acquitted here. it's not the end of his legal problems. they can prosecute that broader case against him as a threat to democracy, someone who plays by his own rules who is kind of indifferent to the laws and institutions that are find fundamental to our democracy. concerns for the biden folks, too, if he's convicted. the possibility of violence a. that. that takes this off into a whole different place, this election, and so i think that they are preparing for both outcomes, but eager for the trial to be over
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and sort of for the general election matchup to crystallize for more voters. they are hoping that will start to potentially move the polls a little bit. >> a guilty verdict would be uncharted territory. amy, as ezra klein wrote about the other day, this has been nagging me as well as i look at the campaign and back to 2016. one of the things that hillary clinton missed is she assumed and assumed everybody would think donald trump was as much of a buffoon as they did. enough people thought donald trump was viable, and they wanted to elect him, and they did, ezra says, the mistake democrats keep making about trump and trump is that the rest of the country will see trump as they see trump. he won in 2016. absent the pandemic he might well have been reelected. is there a feeling that obviously everyone is going to see donald trump as a threat to democracy, obviously they will be reminded that donald trump
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was chaotic president, and obviously they will be as turned off by it as we, the democrats are? >> i think there's this sense, katy, that everyone knows this, and everyone knows who donald trump is, and i think that's what ezra is getting at. everything that we know about him is already baked in. so now this is why i was saying earlier, i'm hearing from people that the democrats want to hear more about what else. elections are about the future. also, i don't think a lot of people, he has done, the president has done so much in terms of the economy. you know, prove it. talk to people in simple language about what he has done. there has been poll after poll that suggests that the population, even democrats still don't understand what has been accomplished. so i think he has his work cut out for him in the coming months, five months to kind of explain and boil down, and say this is what we have done, and this is where we're going, and if he doesn't do that, i think that it's bad news for the
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democrats. >> amie, dasha burns, thank you very much. linings are forming outside the new york city courthouse where closing arguments will begin tomorrow in donald trump's hush money/election interference trial. joining us now is former prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, charles coleman. they're there and ready to see it if they can get their chance inside that courtroom. tomorrow is going to be a historic day. this whole trial has been historic, but this is the defense and prosecution giving their final arguments. what do you suspect will be the key moments that either team, each team will bring up? >> well, i think from a prosecution standpoint, katy, they're going to want to focus on trying to emphasize the notion of michael cohen's testimony and its importance and relying on the framework that david pecker laid out early on. at some point they are going to have to bring in the conversation about michael cohen as he is for them the lynch pin that actually makes the connection between donald trump
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and the actual signed documents in this overall plot. i think people have to understand that while it may seem very straightforward, as far as the jury instructions are concerned, the notion of cause as a question, we didn't hear testimony about donald trump instructing, directing or ordering someone to do the things that were done in terms of the inappropriate markings or registering of the records as he's charged with the business records, and so that's where they have to rely on michael cohen. i expect to hear some of that. conversely, if i spent -- i am thinking as best as i can about how do i keep donald trump as far away from the actions as possible. i'm going to try to find a way to bring up the notion, they did not hear from mark weisselberg. they did not hear weisselberg's side of the story even though that is someone they heard about. that is something you could hear from the defense, in addition to the fact that i'm going to
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relentlessly attack everyone they heard from, including michael cohen and stormy daniels. these are people with motives. they can't be believed. they can't be trusted. you don't know whether they're lying now and vice versa. these are two competing narratives and at the center the documents, and the question becomes how well can the prosecution tie donald trump in terms of the question of cause to the actual documents. >> there was a post on truth social. donald trump seemed to give away what the jury instructions are, presuming his lawyers have been told in advance, and this is that the jury will get three options. could be an underlying tax case, an underlying federal elections case or state elections case to bring the violation to a felony, and he thinks it's unfair that jurors won't have to be unanimous on that. if that is the case, what does that do to the deliberations? make it harder or easier to convict donald trump? >> it makeseasier,
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katy, in terms of them being able to find there was some other crime attempting to be concealed by the mislabeled business records. i think if they had to agree on what the underlying crime was, and they had to agree unanimously, we would be in a space that's not likely to have happened. because we're in a space where that is basically something they can choose and don't have to be unanimous on in terms of this election it's more likely than not they will come to some agreement faster sooner than later. >> is someone using a food processer in your house or is there construction outside? >> there's construction outside, and i asked them for a moment to keep it down. here we are. >> no respect, you get no respect, charles coleman. >> we miss you hear in the studio. don't worry, it's always quiet and completely under control, which as you know, is not true. charles, thank you very much. tune into our special coverage of the closing arguments
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starting at 10:00 a.m. eastern, and prime time coverage which begins at 8:00 p.m. eastern. still ahead, what some maga loyalists are saying donald trump needs in 2024 running mates, and we'll go live to the battle ground state of arizona, hoping democrats would forecloses on abortion rights at the ballot rights and why abortion may not be the top issue. and what a russian ambassador says vladimir putin wants in exchange. we're back in 90 secondings. -- secondings. -- seconds. seconds [introspective music] recipes. recipes that are more than their ingredients. ♪ [smoke alarm] recipes written by hand and lost to time...
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the hush money/election interference trial is over. the election is five months away, which means donald trump needs a running mate, and he needs one soon. it's getting a lot of attention on capitol hill. "politico" reports that a sizable number of hill republicans, even some maga loyalists are urging him to pick a running mate who can attract more wary gop voters on the center right. nikki haley who has publicly ruled out or someone perhaps someone like tim scott or marco rubio. joining us now, former new hampshire republican party chair, former rnc executive committee member and cofounder of the lincoln project, jennifer horn. my allergies are getting to me today, i'm sorry about that. let me ask you about running mates. donald trump, is there anybody that he can choose that will convince wary centrist
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republicans, maybe like yourself that they should vote for donald trump. >> well, first, let me be clear, there's nobody who could be on that ticket that would cause me to vote for donald trump. there's no world where i and a lot of others like me will vote for donald trump, and i think the challenge that he's going to face is, you know, exactly what you're kind of suggesting there. who brings over these persuadable republicans. i think that the idea of nikki haley really is off the table. i don't see a world where either one of them would be willing to work with the other. i don't think frankly that donald trump would particularly benefit from a nikki haley as a vice presidential candidate. all of those votes that went to nikki haley really were primarily anti-trump votes. a lot of them are going to go to joe biden. a lot of them are going to turn into people who just don't vote for president, and then there will be a handful of them who
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will vote for trump just because he's the gop guy, and he's going to get those votes anyway. i think it's much more likely that we'll see somebody like a rubio or a tim scott, both of whom have made it very clear they're willing to do and say whatever is necessary to get the job. >> does a rubio or a tim scott convince maybe not you but other republicans to sign on? he picked mike pence because he was evangelical, and he wanted to sow up that vote. is there a way with all we know about donald trump to convince that sliver of republican voters who find him repulsive to come back to him? >> well, i think that both tim scott and marco rubio offer something in that area. they're both openly religious. they're open about their faith. neither one of them are afraid to talk about it. we know that minority vote is going to be very important to donald trump. we know especially how important
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the latino vote has been growing over the last decade, and going forward, the influence they're going to have. so either one of them really brings something to the table, and frankly, they're both candidates who have previously expressed their disdain for donald trump in the past and have come, you know, full circle for him, and i think that's something, honestly, that donald trump finds very attractive. >> it can't be marco rubio because marco rubio lives in florida? . i mean, constitutionally, you're not allowed to have two candidates from the same state. >> then, it sound like it's more and more looking like tim scott, isn't it? i'm not sure who else is out there. you know, kristi noem was really high on the list. nobody who's got a brain at this point would even consider that. >> and so she shot her dog. >> exactly. and let's not forget that.
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you know, there are always little holes that you have to fill. but it's really a unique thing when you're talking about donald trump. it's never a traditional equation for him. you know, it's never just business, political business as usual. and you've got to have somebody who's really going to be willing to do what mike pence did right up until january 6th. which is bow to donald trump at every turn. >> i also think it's important to question what kind of person, what kind of promises do they make to themselves or to donald trump who wants to be his running mate after the last guy, the last vice president was run out of town to chants of hang mike pence, chants that donald trump seemed to be endorse. who wants to be that person this time around, and what might they be promising themselves or be willing to do to make it so that those chants don't follow them. one other question.
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i know you don't want donald trump to win. do you see joe biden beating him as of today? >> i see there's absolutely a clear and strong path for joe biden to beat donald trump in the fall. and we're right at that turning point right now, too, katy. it's memorial day weekend, going into the summer, approaching the conventions. i have no doubt that the biden campaign has a plan to start ramping things up, regardless of how it goes this week and next week. regardless of some of these weird crazy trumpian things. >> jennifer horn, thank you so much for joining us. vladimir putin claims he's ready to halt the conflict in ukraine. what is the catch? first, though, what's happening in the battle ground state of arizona regarding abortion. is it as big of an issue as democrats want it to be? want it? my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day
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a recent cbs news yougov polls finds 65% would vote for constitutional abortion protections in the state. the same poll finds former president trump with a five-point lead over former president biden. how can that be. joining us now from phoenix, arizona, alex talbot. are these people that are going to go and vote for the abortion amendment to enshrine it into
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the constitution, and now that that's off the table, turn around and vote for donald trump? >> reporter: well, katy, i have been talking to a lot of voters in arizona on reproductive rights issues, and especially young voters. they're passionate about abortion rights. they're planning to get there at the ballot box in november to vote to enshrine abortion rights into the state's constitution. but they're not completely sold on president biden. they have listed gaza, they have listed this age as some of the reasons, particularly younger votes that they're a bit hesitant. given the stubborn polling numbers for president biden, i went to one of his reproductive rights round table events that his campaign put on in phoenix last week, and went and asked supporters, do you think the president and his campaign should be campaigning on other issues other than abortion as vigorously as he is touching on abortion and reproductive rights. i want you to hear what they told me. >> i don't think arizonians are single issue voters, so i think
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we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we can tackle several issues at once. we don't have to, this issue is absolutely important. >> when it comes to what's actually -- people in the economy want to see this. that's their top for them. i get that. it's interesting, you can't have a working economy with half of the population not able to do their best that they can and make their choices. >> so the economy is an issue, particularly housing prices is an issue i hear from voters time and time again. immigration, of course, is a very big issue here in arizona. it's a border state. so in the five months between now and election day, it will be interesting to see whether the biden/harris campaign focuses on other issues with greater frequency. >> alex talbot, thank you very much for bringing that us. today is one of the biggest travel days of the year. what you need to know about it. and the russian president is now
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reuters is reporting that russian president vladimir putin is ready for a cease fire with ukraine negotiated along the current battlefield lines. this is according to four russian sources who spoke with reuters adding that vladimir putin is prepared to fight on in kyiv, fight on if kyiv and the
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west do not respond. ukraine's president zelenskyy appealed to president biden and president xi of china to show leadership by advancing peace and joining a peace summit in june in switzerland. >> does russia what a dialogue? ukraine had the world's largest experience of lies from russia during negotiations. lies. that in particular was russian cover up for preparing this war, and that's exactly why global efforts are needed. global peace summit. of the leaders whom russia will be able to deceive. >> joining us now, retired four star general, former division commander and msnbc military analyst, general barry mccaffrey. really good to have you. what do you think of this proposal, if you will by vladimir putin. >> well, i think it's probably a combination of a couple of things. one is for six months, the u.s. stopped providing support to ukraine. it was devastating impact.
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the artillery went to almost 0 capability. the russians pounded them. they have gained much more terrain from the ukrainians, so putin sees a glimmer of hope. the other part of it, the war has been devastating on its own economy. he's had probably 300,000 russian troops killed or wounded. and the sanctions are leaving him in a desperate perilous situation. the only allies he has are muted support from china and some support from north korea and iran. so he needs a pause. he wants the economic sanctions lifted. he'll wait for the next phase of the war. which would be subjugation of all of ukraine, the second largest country in europe. >> you're arguing, no, don't go anywhere near this? >> oh, absolutely not.
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i think the payoff will be if the june peace conference in switzerland with 90 some-odd nations confirms unified support, not just nato, the european union, but globally to condemn putin's criminal invasion of ukraine, which by the way, actually started in 2014 with crimea. a lot of countries to include china don't want to see sovereign nations borders realigned through blatant aggression. so i think the peace initiative is important, and secondly, we're starting to see that the europeans, particularly the french, step up and say our security obviously is at grave risk if putin is able to seize ukraine. never mind, i might add, katy, the 25 million refugees in western europe, so this is a time to be steadfast in support of ukraine. >> can there be a guarantee of a
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unified front before the november election, before the world knows whether donald trump wins again? >> you make a good point. i think, look, if trump wins the election, the impact on our national security, in my judgment, will be devastating. it's likely that nato will lose its inherent deterrent power to keep the peace in europe, to hem putin in. it's widely believed for whatever reason that putin has about absolute hold over trump's thinking, so there is a certain hesitancy. on the other hand, what it's also doing in europe is saying, look, maybe we can't count on the americans, we'd better get our own defense alliances in order and be able to confront putin if he then goes after the baltic states or poland. i noticed poland put
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$2.5 billion into fortifying their frontier. it is having some impact on getting the europeans more determined to protect their own interests. >> vladimir putin, you talk about how the economy has been ravaging russia. or the war has been ravaging the russian economy. is he feeling that internally amongst his people? can we even tell? >> i think he is not. the russians are very resilient. if you step out of line with putin, the best outcome is you end up being jailed or exiled from an urban area, or possibly imprisoned or even murdered. he's able to hold control of his own country internally, and i think he now believes he can keep it together long enough to subdue ukraine, if he can fracture the western alliance. so as you properly said before,
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if trump wins, then there's going to be a devastating impact, not just potentially on ukraine, but also on israel, on taiwan and other allies that will say, look, we're completely unreliable partner. >> a lot rides on november. general barry mccaffrey, thank you very much for joining us. >> good to be with you, katy. and the government of papua new guinea has told the united nations that they believe more than 2,000 people were buried alive in a landslide on friday, a number that more than tripled the initial u.n. estimate. rescuers are searching with sticks and with their bear hands for survivors. joining us now, nbc news international correspondent, meagan fitzgerald, what's the latest? >> reporter: yeah, katy, i can tell you what a u.n. official told me earlier today, it's an all out race against time to find people trapped and buried beneath the rubble. we're talking about a situation
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that unfolded in the middle of the morning, middle of the night. friday, 3:00 p.m., people were sleeping when the mud slide takes place. we know that some 150 homes were buried underneath, and as you mentioned, you know, we're hearing from papua new guinea officials, government officials that are saying more than 2,000 people have been trapped beneath the rubble. now, the u.n. officials i have been speaking with say they can't confirm or deny that figure, but this is an incredibly serious situation. we're talking about a region that, yeah, they are prone to natural disaster. they have seen their fair share of mud slides and earthquakes and volcanos, but what makes this so devastating is that this remote village that this is playing out in is in some ways isolated. they have roads that have been compromised because of these natural disaster. you now add on what we just saw on friday. it's making it even more difficult to try and get in this heavy machinery that's needed to try and dig through the rubble to try and find these people. so those first responders that
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are on the ground right now are digging with their hands and tools and everything they can to rescue people. for perspective here, according to the officials that we have been speaking to, less than ten people have been recovered so far. >> such a horrible mess. what is the global response going to be? is there aid that can get there fast enough to try and help these efforts? >> reporter: yeah, so that's the question, obviously the location of where papua new guinea is located is north of australia. we know that australia and partners along with new zealand and china are pitching in to try and help the efforts here. u.s. aid is involved, immediately trying to send funds for food, water, supplies, hygiene, supplies, along with shelter. but this is most certainly a crisis situation that's unfolding, and it's very difficult to get access and so that's what's taking so long, in a situation that is really a
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race against time as these people are trapped beneath rubbles and mud and earth, essentially. as they try and dig to find people who may still be alive. katy. >> it's just so sad. meagan fitzgerald, thank you very much. and delays and cancellations, what is going on with the weather, and how it might impact your journey back home at the end of this holiday weekend. plus, they are young people who answered the call of duty. why aren't their families paid death benefits when they die. and what lawmakers are trying to do to change that. do to change that. winning trading app makes trading easier. with its customizable options chain, easy-to-use tools and paper trading to help sharpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. e*trade from morgan stanley power e*trade's easy to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans can help you find new trading opportunities, while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market.
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♪♪ you just have to get in the seat. a record number of passengers are flying this memorial day weekend. on friday, the tsa screened nearly 3 million at our nation's airports. that's an all time high of people passing through security in a single day. joining us from hartsfield-jackson international airport in atlanta is nbc news correspondent priya sridhar. you know, every time we do a memorial day story or labor day story or christmas story, it's always a record number of passengers. there are more and more people who are trying to get away from their homes during the holiday season. and today it sound like the weather was not on their side in atlanta. >> reporter: yeah, that's absolutely right, katy. as you mentioned, 3 million passengers on friday. that beat the record, which was set on the sunday after thanksgiving last year, so as you mentioned, it seems like every holiday, we keep breaking
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records and actually five of the ten busiest travel days ever recorded have occurred in the month of may, so in some respects, tsa has said, listen, we are passenger volumes getting close to 3 million passengers a day. as you can imagine, thursday and friday were very busy travel days. people are heading home today and trying to get back to work tomorrow. so we've seen really long lines here at the atlanta airport, which is considered the world's busiest airport, and as you mentioned, there was severe weather across the country today. specifically hitting the east coast the hardest so actually this morning there was a ground stop here briefly because of severe thunderstorms that happened, and i got a chance to a catch up with a passenger who actually had her flight canceled. take a listen. >> now the airline is saying they can't rebook us on another flight unless we pay for it ourselves, so now we're looking at do we get on another flight or get a hotel room and rental car and stay the night. that's where we're at.
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>> reporter: so where do things stand nationally whether it comes to delays and cancellations? well, we've seen 4,208 delays so far across american airports and 383 cancellations. so with weather picking up in the coming hours and more flights and more passengers getting to the airport to catch those last minute flights home, we might see those numbers go up even more. i suggest that everyone should check their flight status before they head to the airport, katy. >> i know that woman was not pleased to have to potentially pay for another flight for her family, but what's the attitude of travelers today? are today? are they feeling okay? >> reporter: i think most people i've spoken to know when you travel on memorial day or any big holiday that you could expect there is going to be delays and cancellations and as we keep saying, you have to pack your patience. so i it you will will i ran into her not too long ago and she spent the night here and her ultimate destination is germany so she's trying to catch a flight to new york tomorrow.
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she's being flexible and has a positive attitude and that is all you could ask for when you're dealing with things out of your control. >> they have great food in atlanta so there are worse places to spend the night. and the big trick for avoiding all of this holiday travel is to avoid the holiday travel and not go anywhere and just work on memorial day. because that is what we want to be doing. working. thank you very much. >> i think we figured it out. >> thank you for joining us. and the rotc trains airmen but it does not guaranteed students full benefits. should they die during that training. what lawmakers are trying to do about that. don't go anywhere. o about that don't go anywhere. (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so i wear a lot of hats. my restaurants, my tattoo shop... and i also have a non-profit. but no matter what business i'm in... my network and my tech need to keep up. thank you verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (waitress) all with the security features we need. (aaron) because my businesses are my life.
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families of active duty military members lost in the time of duty receive death benefits but there are coverage gaps for the 20,000 young americans enrolled in the rotc program. ali vitali has a look at the push to help their loved ones. >> jessica's daughter mckenzie felt like her miracle baby. >> she's an amazing person. she wanted to be a scientist. >> reporter: in high school she joined the reserve officer training corp or rotc. >> she had a phenomenal experience in college. >> reporter: mckenzie got into a humvee with fellow cadets.
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>> and the driver was not trained. going over the speed limit, the vehicle spun and then flipped. killing mckenzie. >> you're living every parents worst nightmare and then adding to it immense financial strain. >> reporter: expenses piled up and missed work and legal proceedings are still ob going. jessica lost the home she had been renting. >> there we were on the one-year anniversary of her death just scrambling trying to find any resemblance of consistency. of stability. >> reporter: families of active duty members lost in the sign of duty receive a death gratuity of $100,000. cadets like jessica get nothing. manny vega is on a mission to change that. a marine veteran himself, his 21-year-old son patrick dreamed of serving. he died ten day news basic training from the family said, complications of the common cold and poor medical care.
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>> as a disabled veteran, who carries a medal that said heroism, so have the marine corp fail my son, because they did, they failed my son. and to fail his family is -- i'm very conflicted. it is very painful. just the coldness of the culture is what really, really is upsetting. >> reporter: patrick died at bootcamp but they got the gratuity and it turned grief into action starting save our service members pushing for policy changes and supporting other families who suffered losses like his. >> what was it like to find the community that manny was able to build. >> it has been life saving. >> as a marine you're taught to take care of your own. you never leave anybody behind. >> reporter: a democratic congressman served with vega. >> this is something that you're
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keenly aware from a policy and personal perspective. >> reporter: he teamed up with michael waltz. >> he once upon a time served in the rotc and i served in the delayed entry program. we know personally what these gaps could do in terms of not providing to the families of those service members who died in service and sacrificed what it does to their families. >> we're facing a recruiting crisis, we're facing a retention crisis. if families find out they're not covered or wait a minute, my son or daughter is about to jump out of planes but they don't get the types of benefits that any other military member does. >> reporter: the annual package would correct the oversite and providing casual assistance to rotc cadets that die in training events. >> what does it feel like knowing that changes are coming, hopefully. >> i feel like she didn't die in
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