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i was there the day that president biden was being inaugurated. people were telling me, what the migrants were telling me, here is a new president that will be reinstating our right to seek asylum, that will get rid of the cruelty. that was the message. i was there the day president biden was being inaugurated. to think there's a very different story right now. >> thank you so very much. appreciate your time. that wraps up the hour for me. you can reach me on social media @jdbalart. thank you for the privilege of your time. andrea mitchell picks up with more news right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," the first lady in court for a third day showing support for her son hunter biden as his ex-wife is
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taking the stand to testify about his fall into drug addiction and the strain on their family. this as president biden arrived in paris today to prepare for tomorrow's 80th anniversary of d-day, where the president will give a major speech promoting democracy in the historic military operation that saved the world from fascism. a shooting at the u.s. embassy in beirut, injuring a guard at the gate. white house continues to press hamas and israel to accept the latest cease-fire proposal despite political opposition in israel's cabinet. >> there's a lot of talk and chatter. the israeli government confirmed as recently as today that that proposal is still on the table and now it's up to hamas to accept it. as the supreme court will rule on whether president trump is immune from prosecution, the
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democratic senator leading demands for justice alito's recusal joins us as well as for ethics reform on the high court, rhode island senator sheldon whitehouse is on the show. ♪♪ good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. hunter biden is in court for the third day of his trial on felony gun charges with first lady jill biden and hunter's wife in the courtroom. just stepping off the witness stand, hunter's first wife, the mother of three of his children, testifying about hunter's struggle with addiction. this morning, an fbi special agent was cross-examined by biden's attorney about the details of his addiction and the gun purchase, which is at the heart of the case. earlier, the prosecution played for the jury audio from fession.
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>> listening to had an affect on the first lady and other family members in the courtroom. joining us now, ken dilanian at the courthouse, and former u.s. attorney harry litman. why did the prosecution call hunter's first wife? >> reporter: prosecutors were using her to provide the jury context about hunter biden's drug addiction. they were married for 24 years from 1993 to 2017. she testified that she first knew for sure that he was using crack in 2015. she suspected that his cocaine use happened earlier. he was kicked out of the navy after testing positive for cocaine. she talked about how she found
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drugs in his car and how it changed him as a person. e angry and bitter. how it affected their marriage. she's off the stand now. another woman with whom hunter biden was romantically involved is on stand and will probably be used for the same purpose, to talk about list drug use. what was interesting today is the cross-examination of the fbi agent really honed in on exactly how hunter biden's lawyers are trying to defend this case. what they're going to argue is that there isn't a lot of evidence of drug use around the time he purchased the gun. there's evidence months before and months after. there's evidence of big financial cash withdrawals during that time. less direct evidence that he was using crack cocaine on the day or week he purchased the gun. what abiabb lowell will argue i
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that's what was on his mind. that's the issue in this trial. >> harry, in 2022, she spoke about her marriage to hunter, the toll on the family. this was on cbs. >> when i found the crack pipe, beau had just died. his addiction was as bad as -- it was escalating. during that time, finding liquor bottles -- he was in an awful place. it was a painful, painful time for our whole family. >> with your expertise, how might that kind of testimony -- she's just finished her cross examination. how might that play with the
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judge, with the jury most particularly? >> they are different. on the one hand, it's the stuff that everybody knows. it's in his book. the jury has heard it. the defense doesn't contest it. they make a more technical argument that maybe when he said unlawful drug user, that was accurate, but obviously, there's an overall narrative here that it's not precisely going to the legal charges but more about the wisdom of it and whether it makes sense for hunter biden to be in jail. i just gotta say on that score, this is a case that would -- has never been brought in my experience of the doj. the policy has always been, if you lie on a form and you don't commit another crime, it's not prosecuted. it was planned with hunter biden. it's a diversion.
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that unraveled for reasons having not to do with him. there's a lot wrong with this case. it feels like a case that's not right for the criminal justice system. it's more sort of a human tragedy that should be something about drug treatment and not for penitentiary. >> that, of course, how the jury decides will depend a lot on the instructions from the judge on the law as we have seen in other cases. one of the key things is that the judge ruled the prosecution couldn't bring in an expert witness who was going to talk about the different stages of addiction and how you can be coming out of addiction and think you are not addicted. his state of mind when he actually filled out that form. that prosecution expert witness -- that defense witness, rather, was not allowed.
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>> that's right. it's limited in that way. lowell wanted to tell the back story here. that really is not relevant to the current charges. it's going to be -- i don't think there's going to be a big mystery for how the judge will instruct the jury. it's just a common sense view. when he said, i'm not now currently an unlawful drug user, could he -- is there a reasonable doubt about whether he could have been truthful there? of course, the whole thing, he himself -- no one contests, he is in the depths of drug addiction, what that even means. they were going over now with the fbi agent all the other uses he made of money during that time to suggest maybe it wasn't for crack cocaine. they will try to zero in on that very period when he filled out the form and say, you know, maybe it was fair to say, i wasn't an unlawful drug user at the time. >> it's not that this is not a
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messy personal situation and embarrassing for the first family, there's another woman on the stand right now who is another former romantic partner of hunter biden. i believe the mother of another child. >> the wife of beau biden may testify. they were also involved after beau's death. >> was very -- she's a key person because because she was involved in finding -- first of all, according to the opening statement, she is acknowledge -- will acknowledge that she was involved with crack cocaine. she found the gun. there's also some arguments that there was some cocaine from her use on the gun. there's a lot that will be involved with hallie biden which is complicated as well. yesterday, hunter's current
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wife, mother of their little boy, clashed outside, ken, with a former trump white house aide, garrett ziegler. he is being sued by hunter for pushing out data from that infamous laptop that's part of the evidence in the case, the emails and all, the texts. the emails came from that laptop. >> reporter: yeah. she lashed out at him, called him a nazi. she's very angry with him. two thing -- two pieces of context. he is not just a former white house official. he devoted his life to trolling the biden family, publishing the most extreme things taken from that laptop. this is a man that's detested by the family. secondly, he made statements that many people view as
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anti-semitic. he is associated with white nationalists. she's jewish. that may have explained her nazi reference. that's the context there. >> that was overheard by at lot of reporters, including our own sara fitzpatrick outside the courtroom. that was notable. ken dilanian, a messy and sad case. there's issues of how much sympathy the jurors may have with so many of them acknowledging or many of the people in the voir dire acknowledging they were familiar with addiction. it's part of american life. ken dilanian, harry litman, thanks. talks and turmoil. bill burns back in the middle east in qatar engaging in the cease-fire deal and the hostage deal. after a big scare at the u.s. embassy in lebanon, "andrea mitchell reports" is back in 90
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that he is a syrian guthrie as sullivan about this. >> all american personnel are safe and accounted for. one local lebanese guard force member who was outside of the compound was wounded. he is receiving care now. we are working closely with local authorities to ascertain what exactly happened here to ensure there's no continuing threat. >> this comes as fighting between israel and iranian-back iranian-backed hezbollah is intensifying. netanyahu visited the border today and warned the window for a diplomatic solution is closing, saying israel is prepared to launch a military offensive into lebanon, which would expand the war. joining us now, raf sanchez, who is in jerusalem, and ben rhodes, former deputy national security
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advisor to president obama. raf, any time we hear about an attack on the embassy in beirut, it brings to mind the horrors of the '80s, 1983 the predecessor embassy to this one was bombed. i think it was 241 marines and other personnel were killed. that was a turning point in u.s. policy in the middle east. what else do we know about this attack at a time when the u.s. is trying not to have a northern front opened, which would vastly expand this war? >> reporter: your point about the 1983 attack is well made. the american embassy in beirut is outside of the city now, in a mountainous area, in a heavily fortified compound, for that security reason. they do not want to see another attack like they saw in 1983. today's attack, not on the same scale. here is what we know.
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8:34 a.m. local time, gunfire erupted outside the entrance to the embassy. lebanese media says the shootout lasted four about 30 minutes. in just the last couple of minutes, nbc news has been able to verify a photograph of the gunman outside of the embassy that we may be able to bring up here. you can see on your screen there, he is helmeted, he is masked, he is carrying an assault rifle. he is wearing a tactical vest. in another image we are not able to share because it's too graphic, the gunman, after he has been injured by lebanese forces and taken into custody, you can see on that vest he has the letters in english, i-s written, a possible reference to the islamic state, to i.s.i.s. we don't know for sure at this moment his motivation. we do know that this is a moment when there's very widespread anger across the middle east directed at the united states because of american support for
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israel since october 7th and during the war in gaza. as you mentioned, this is also coming at a time when the fighting between israel and the iranian-backed militant group in southern lebanon hezbollah has been intensifying. earlier this week, there were serious fires in northern israel caused by rocket fire. prime minister netanyahu is under domestic pressure to be seen to be doing something in the north. israel's government has said that the window is open for now, for a diplomatic solution, for hezbollah to pull back from the border, to stop firing. if it doesn't, israel will move ahead with a military offensive in southern lebanon. that really has the potential to unleash a war that could be far, far more devastating than what we have seen in gaza. hezbollah is a larger, much more powerful group than hamas. there was a deadly war between
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israel back in 2006, israel and hezbollah in 2006 that led to a lot of civilian casualties in lebanon, a lot in israel. the white house working very hard to try to prevent that war from erupting again. >> i was there in 2006. it was a dreadful war on both sides. devastated lebanon, one reason why it's believed hezbollah has not wanted to invade. ben, cia director burns in qatar. this is trying to push hamas to embrace the propoproposal, whicy said was positive. a lot of pressure on netanyahu who endorsed it with the war cabinet before friday's announcement by president biden, but then started backing off of it under pressure from his right wing. politics in israel are so
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complicated right now. >> yeah. you have to remember on both sides of this negotiation, there are multiple actors. first of all, with respect to hamas, there's a political leadership in qatar that is more susceptible to pressure from the u.s. government, from qatar, these are people that live outside of gaza, these are people that have money that the u.s. goes after in different parts of the world. the commander on the ground in gaza, sinwar, he seems to want an open-ended war in which hamas gains international support, hamas can mount an insurgency against israeli forces. it's no guarantee that even if the political leadership in hamas supports a cease-fire agreement that the people fighting on the ground in gaza will sign off. a similar dynamic on the other side of this, in the israeli government, that war cabinet reflects the more center to center right elements of the
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israeli government. you have people like gantz, the defense minister who have been willing to put pressure on netanyahu to wind down the war, to have a plan for gaza. on the other hand, you have ministers, very senior ministers in the government, the finance minister, national security minister in the israeli government who are openly hostile to the cease-fire agreement and have said they would bring down the israeli government if it moves forward. that's probably why netanyahu is not publicly embracing what the u.s. is describing as his own plan. it's just a reminder that there's more than two puzzle pieces that have to be fit together here. this is a multi-dimensional negotiation, even among the israeli and palestinian partners. it's not clear you have the israeli agreement for its own proposal and hamas agreement at the military level. >> there's the tension between
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biden and netanyahu, which was not helped by what the president said -- he was trying to say to "time," he has political pressure and he is dealing -- it's safe to say people deal with those pressures. it was not taken very well in tel aviv that he was referring to that. when gabe gutierrez asked him yesterday, do you think the prime minister is trying to hold on to office for political reasons, he said, no, i think he is dealing with a complicated situation, trying to clean that up. at the same time, we understand the speaker of the house, within the hour -- or maybe perhaps has been speaking to netanyahu to firm up a date for the meeting -- the joint meeting he is coming to, which is something the white house is not welcoming, but they have no choice because he was invited by the speaker. schumer agreed to it. that's coming up. he will be here in washington
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speaking to congress. you know what happened last time when you were in office and he gave a speech against the white house and against the iran nuclear deal. >> yeah. there are a couple things that trigger certain memories. first of all, the decision to go public with the cease-fire proposal. one of the things that happened in the obama years when there were negotiations with the palestinian authority is often, israeli negotiators would indicate supportp proposal. then netanyahu wouldn't stand behind that. i think part of the reason for going forward, even though they kept describing it and putting the onus on hamas, is that this is an administration that has been negotiating and just wants to say, if you won't own your own proposal, we will tell the world what your negotiators have agreed to. that indicates probably a degree frustration with netanyahu. the israeli prime minister doesn't want to do that because he knows he would have a fight
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with his far right, which mean means he might not be able to stay in power. when the war ends, it's likely there will be an election in israel and netanyahu might not win. in congress, it's very strange. i can't think of any other time in which foreign leaders negotiated their appearances directly with the speaker of the house of the opposing party. it's not something that happens. it's obviously something that happened in the obama years. we weren't identified that boehner was inviting netanyahu. i think it's strange that the democratic leader signed on, in part because of the policy dispute. you are giving netanyahu a huge platform to take policy positions different from the biden administration. just politically, the republican party will likely be unified in rolling out the red carpet for netanyahu. the democratic party will be
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divided. this is the dynamic netanyahu thrived on for many years, this willingness to interfere in u.s. politics and use support from republicans as a source of leverage against democrats. unfortunately, the stakes are high, not just for israel but for the united states in gaza. that's why this is such an unusual dynamic, to say the least. >> ben, your context is invaluable. raf, of course, everything you are reporting from the ground. thanks to both of you. executive action. how the president's new immigration policy is playing at the border and within his own political party. this is "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc. hi. what's your name? this is our new friend. we'll talk about it later, ok? what does a cat need? chewy's here. no, no, no, no. is that good? hey, wait! come back! is this normal? ask the chewy vet team.
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executive action to cut off asylum seeking when it goes too high. is it politics? what about basic rule of asylum? let's bring in gabe gutierrez and maria theresa gumar. nearly ten million migrants crossed since biden took office. why the focus now? you could say because republicans and democrats were debating for so long on the hill and arguing over the bill that never saw the light of day. what happened in the first two years? >> reporter: that's right. there are a couple things happening. this executive action comes days after the presidential election in mexico. that will be a country that will be critical to the implementation of this policy.
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as you said, this also comes about five months before the presidential election. certainly, immigration polls show it has become a top issue in this election. the white house will say the president had to do this now because of congressional inaction. as you alluded to, that bipartisan border funding deal several months ago, house republicans killed it at the urging of donald trump. here was national security advisor jake sullivan earlier today. >> when he made his announcement yesterday, he made it after a period of intense preparations so it could be an effective policy. there are lawful pathways to make appeals for asylum. the president has gone further in generating those pathways so people looking to come here to this country with a legitimate claim to come here can do so effectively. >> reporter: the white house expects legal challenges. senior administration officials say they are prepared to defend
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the asylum restrictions in court. >> maria theresa, this is different but very similar to what donald trump did, which you opposed, which joe biden opposed. there were exceptions for children. we're not separating families here. it's not granting asylum. there's nothing here for dreamers, there's no to citizenship. >> i'm glad you brought this up. we have been working with the administration for over two and a half years on different initiatives. we have known this has been on the table. while it's imperfect, it does provide flexibility of being able to move the boundaries if immigration falls below. i think our biggest challenge is that we keep having the wrong conversation. by the time someone travels thousands of miles, desperately trying to seek asylum, the system has been broken. we actually need to work with congress that allows an immigration system so that we
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are monitoring the people coming in, but also with the right mix of skills. i do expect the administration in the next couple of weeks to make other executive actions to address some of the concerns. i can't go into detail. myself and a few other groups met with the president specifically, recognizing that securing the border is not enough. every american wants a secure border. we want to do it hugh -- humanely. we are expecting more from the administration at it relates to d.a.c.a. and undocumented loved ones. >> also, what is not -- there's -- you don't have judges, you don't have facilities, manpower, everything in the bill that never got a vote in the house.
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>> the president doesn't have that spending. that actually is appropriations. that comes from congress. congress wants to lay the blame on the president's feet. at the end of the day, he has a forced hand. he recognizes that there's an imperfect flow right now at the border. he needs congress to do their job. what they're doing is they are politicking. they are not being honest. there were two proposals to address the border issue. both times it was a republican congress that decided not to sign them, even though it was proposed by some of the most -- the strictest republicans in their own party when it comes to border security. >> we will have to leave it there. this could be taking place as soon as tomorrow, because right now the numbers are about 4,000. this gets triggered at 2,500. it will be challenged. it's being challenged. >> it should. this does go against our international law. but to know that we are working
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as soon as tomorrow, the supreme court could issue key rulings in the case of donald trump's presidential immunity claims and the charges facing many of the january 6th rioters.
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leading democrats have been calling for alito to recuse himself following reports about controversial flags flown at his homes, as the high court is considering several potentially impactful decisions. >> we did go backwards in dobbs. i'm not saying something new. we have taken away a right. we have never done that in our history. mind you, there are days that i have come to my office after an announcement of a case and closed my door and cried. there have been those days. there are likely to be more. >> joining me now is democratic senator sheldon whitehouse. senator, you have been a leader on this whole challenge to the
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court on its ethics, on the lack of recusals, clarence thomas, now the flags over alito's homes. i was struck by justice sotomayor, to be that personal and acknowledge that she has cried after some of the decisions and to say ominously to critics that there will be more -- likely more. what was your reaction to that? >> well, it's obviously very touching. she clearly takes the dobbs decision very personally, which i think several hundred million americans also do. but it sort of doesn't change the underlying problem here, that you have a majority on this court that doesn't care about precedent, that doesn't care about reliance on established
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rights, and that is doing an enormous amount of harm in what appears to be at the direction of a group of right wing entities and billionaires who tell them what to do through briefs and the pattern of their decisions is alarming. that's part of what justice sotomayor was referring to. expect more. this is not random. this is not balls and strikes. there's a pattern here, and we can expect that to continue. >> what do you expect on the immunity decision? >> what i hoped was that it would be a quick 9-0, an opportunity for the court to say, this is a ridiculous notion, we are all united, nobody is above the law in this country and that includes presidents. that would be a pretty easy call. the fact that they didn't go there creates, i think, very
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considerable nervousness among a lot of people about how maga this is getting. you've got one of the justices flying maga battle flags over his houses. when you've got another who spouse was actively participating in the january 6 insurrection and was a witness in the january 6 investigation and neither is recusing themselves, it's really hard to see that the ordinarily course of justice is being honored here. >> the court adopted an ethics code, so-called, in november. but there's no enforcement. what can congress do? >> it's like a baseball team saying, we will play by the rules of baseball now, except for the umpires. we will call ourselves safe on base. that's not an ethics code. that's not rules of baseball.
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you have to have somebody who can make these decisions. they do not even have fact finding. there are nine people in all of the united states government who when there's a question about their ethics or propriety, have no exposure to actual fact finding. even the president answered questions about the documents in his garage. these nine people reserve it to themselves alone to be subjected to zero actual fact finding. they are supposed to defend process of law, and here they won't subject themselves to the most rudimentary process of law, fact finding. >> chief justice declined the judiciary's request for a meeting. do you have any options in the senate? >> you know, this has been a long and persistent effort, as
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you have said. i speak regularly to the judicial conference, which the chief justice chairs. we have constant correspondence. we have had a couple of vehicle troi -- victories from the conference related to the supreme court. as you pointed out, they moved from ethics is our problem, nobody bother us, to here is our ethics statement, to here is our ethics code, even though it's not enforceable. we hope there will be continued progress at the court towards an actual enforceable ethics code with some real fact finding the way everybody else has to play by the rules. >> senator mcconnell spoke this morning, accusing democratic senators of unethical behavior for pressuring the court. it's clearly not going to change. we will leave it there. senator, come back. we have big decisions coming in the next couple of weeks. it will be consequential. >> gladly.
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>> thank you. >> good to see you. political retaliation. while denying his promises about locking up hillary clinton in 2016, says he never said that, donald trump is considering political retribution for his rivals, he says, if elected. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports." politics next on msnbc. many of the impossible that we completely ran out. and now... ♪♪ they're backk! the footlong cookie is back at subway!
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this time as receipt -- retribution for his felony convictions. >> joining me now, jen palmieri, brendan buck, and jeremy peters. jen, you were there when lock her up was a major part of trump's campaign against hillary clinton. he is saying he never said that. there's video. you want some ptsd? check this out. >> she should be locked up. tell you right now. she should be locked up. she should. lock 'em up. you should lock them up. lock up the bidens.
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lock up hillary. >> that was then. this is now. jen, ultimately, should we take these threats of retaliation seriously? >> that was wednesday, november 9, 2016. woke up and thought that was my first thought, they're going to lock her up. they're going to do it. that's what's going to happen. that's the world we live in. trump tried. the justice department under trump had a five year going into investigation of hillary. nothing came up. next time, they have said they won't make the same mistake. next time, trump won't appoint someone as the head of the justice department that will follow rules. of the justice department that will follow rules. and i fear that a republican senate will confirm whoever trump wants. and the things that you saw in the "times" story about this, and stephen miller was saying these are things that authoritarian leaders don't
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actually say out loud, and i think it may be so shocking for americans to hear it that it's hard for people to process it, but you do have to take it at face value. >> did you say republican senate? are you conceding that the senate is going to go -- >> i said if there was a republican senate. >> oh, i'm sorry. i wasn't sure i heard you right. i didn't think so but, jeremy, you saw firsthand how lock her up resonated with voters. you were covering the campaign. now republican leaders like senator marco rubio are echoing trump's call. the republicans are pushing for post verdict payback, fight fire with fire. how dangerous is this rhetoric? >> this is a tactic that trump has long employed, andrea. when he is accused of doing something, he turns around and says, well, no, my opponents are doing this too. there was the whole lying ted meme in 2016 where he accused
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ted cruz of lying all the time when trump himself, in fact, was the one who told, i believe, a record amount of falsehoods for a presidential candidate, and of course you have him with the crooked hillary moniker. jen will appreciate that this has always been a big part of trump's appeal to say to his supporters, i'm going to prosecute and jail my opponents. during one of the debate when is hillary was talking about how dangerous a trump presidency would be, he turned to her and said that's because you'd be this jail. so it's not like this was some kind of one-off for him. it's been an animating idea for his candidacy and his political appeal now going on almost ten years. >> and although it was a state manhattan d.a. that led the prosecution that convicted donald trump, brendan, the republicans and donald trump
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leading this fray are blaming the biden white house, and there's been no evidence at all that the administration played any role in that prosecution. house speaker mike johnson showed up in court for donald trump and is now proposing a three-part plan to curb the justice department's authority because of the conviction. >> yeah, and some of that is -- yeah, some of that is him managing his conference. you have marjorie taylor greene threatening to get rid of him over a demand to defund jack smith's investigation. there has been a very notable shift in republican politics today. there the word law fare that for the longest time in politics you would never hear. that is the buzz word of the day in republican politics, going after people through the court system. whether or not we need to take it seriously or literally, i don't know, but there is -- there's a lot of damage you can do to someone's life just by bringing charges to somebody, whether or not you're able to actually execute something. i do feel like in 2016 it felt
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like a little bit of a bit that trump did at rallies to get people riled up. i don't know if you can assume it's a joke anymore. there are going to be people put in place that have going to have a much more aggressive world view of what the executive should be doing. >> u.s. attorneys all resign, get replaced, you know, it is a national issue. it's not just, you know, prosecutors in washington as well. jen palmieri, brendan buck, jeremy peters, thanks to you. reproductive rights, talking about a big issue in the campaign. democrats are planning to force a vote this afternoon to protect contraception. it's symbolic. what will the result be? we'll go to the hill when we come back on "andrea mitchell reports."
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senate democrats are set to vote this afternoon on legislation to protect nationwide access to birth control, though it's expected to fail because of opposition from republicans, in effect it's a messaging bill, it's symbolic to put political pressure, raise the flag to republicans over the issue of contraception. nbc's capitol hill correspondent ali vitali joins me now. so ali this is an exercise in symbolism, public relations, political messaging. what are the threats, though? because there are efforts to
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curtai ibf, contraception and other things in some states as well as of course we're expecting a major supreme court ruling on mifepristone, the so-called abortion pill. >> reporter: yeah, all of that landscape informs what the senate is doing today. senator chuck schumer trying to leverage the power of his senate majority to put republicans on the spot on this, as senator elizabeth warren said this morning, this is a vote that's meant to show voters where republicans are on this issue. this is only dealing directly with contraception, so things like intrauterine devices, birth control pills, even condoms. republicans say this is a vote in search of a problem. this is not something that is being restricted. democrats, of course, say this is all part and parcel to the restrictions that we've seen on a number of reproductive health care issues including ivf like you mentioned that stem from the fact that roe is no longer the law of the land and the dobbs ruling that overturned that precedent that included a right to abortion access.
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that's what this vote is about. now we largely expect it to break down along party lines, all democrats voting for it, and most republicans voting against it. the reason i say most, andrea, is because just in the last few minutes, senator lisa murkowski, republican from alaska said if it's a messaging bill, her message is that she supports women's access to contraception, so at least one republican sounds like they're going to vote for this. >> and where does it go next, you know, in terms of any kind of conclusion just in a word? >> reporter: nowhere. this bill is not going anywhere, but the point, of course, is the politics. >> it's all about the politics. ali vitali, thank you. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." remember, follow us on social media @mitchell reports and you can rewatch parts of the show anytime on youtube. chris jansing takes over right