that's amazing doc. mobile savings are calling. visit xfinitymobile.com to learn more. doc? here we are wrapping up a friday. i will tell you that tomorrow, we're airing "the beat" weekend. we have special reports, that is saturday 4:00 p.m. eastern. a new thing we started this year on msnbc "the beat" weekend, saturdays, 4:00 p.m. eastern. i encourage you to check it out or dvr "the beat" and you should get all six editions if that interested you. if not, no worries. keep it locked right here on msnbc because "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. tonight on "the reidout" -- >> as we gather here today, it's not just to honor those who showed such remarkable bravery

on that day. june 6th, 1944. it's to listen to the echoes. they're asking us to do our job, to protect freedom in our time, to defend democracy. to stand up against aggression abroad and at home. >> president biden stressing the importance of democracy from the very cliffs that allied forces scaled 80 years ago to fight the nazis. >> plus, the far right is finally facing accountability, with steve bannon ordered to report to prison next months and alex jones forced to liquidate his assets to pay sandy hook families. i asked you all online if you would be interested in us talking about the sudden boom and interest surrounding the wnba and the controversy that has come with it. and you answered with a resounding yes. stay tuned for that conversation later in the show.

and we begin tonight with president biden in normandy. delivering an address on democracy and freedom at a pivotal site during the world war ii allied invasion on d-day in normandy, france. >> democracy begins with each of us. begins when one person decides there's something more important than themselves. when they decide the person they're serving alongside of is someone to look after, when they decide the mission matters more than their life. when they decide that their country matters more than they do. >> but as dana milbank notes in "the washington post," as biden rallies the free world, trump serves a higher cause, himself. in a softball interview with tabloid psychologist dr. phil mcgraw, trump showed us again he's thirsting for revenge. >> i'm the best president for

black people since abraham lincoln, and black people are seeing that. >> i think you have so much to do, you don't have time to get even. you only have time to get right. >> revenge does take time, i will say that. sometimes revenge can be justified, phil. i have to be honest. sometimes it can. >> is the country better or worse for them going after you? >> i think the country is really worse for what they have done. >> sometimes revenge can be justified. hmm. tough words. that's a frightening statement from someone who wants to be the president of the united states. remember, this was trump's second opportunity this week to clarify his threats of retaliation in the wake of his felony conviction. on wednesday, his pal sean hannity offered trump an off ramp to walk away from the rhetoric, only for trump to double down and say he has every right to go after his opponents. even his sycophants in the media can't save him because this is

no longer speculation. we're not left wondering what a second trump term would be like. donald trump is saying point blank that he can seek prosecutions against his perceived political enemies for made-up crimes. and if that dreadful day does come where trump is president again, you can bet members of the january 6th committee would be high on his list. in an unhinged screed on his dime store twitter, trump raged about the prison sentence handed to his former white house chief strategist steve bannon who in 2022 was convicted of defying a congressional subpoena issued by the j-6 committee and called out republicans by name. liz cheney and adam kinzinger. exacting revenge on those who don't support him, weaponizing the justice department, and law enforcement to go after his opponents, punishing and undermining the media. sounds like a dictatorship. the path toward an american autoocracy has never been so clear, and instead of slouching toward it, it feels like the

move is proceeding at breakneck speed. what explains this pull toward a convicted felon who will make this country poorer, sicker, less safe, less free? cults of personality go hand in hand with dictators. and more and more trump is embracing the role of religious leader. kind of like how god made ron desantis a fighter, and how the j-6 prison choir tries to rewrite the national anthem in their image, there's something strangely golden calf like about maga's interpretation of christianity, and sometimes it's just plain silly. this morning he boasts online about a bizarre new song from christian singer natasha owens that called trump the chosen one. think country music meets gospel meets weird. ♪ i'm standing with the ♪

>> where's moses and the ten commandments when you really need them. joining me now, ben rhodes, msnbc political analyst and former deputy national security adviser to president obama. ben, thank you very much for being here. let's get started. you had president obama delivering this speech in normandy in front of that beautiful vista. you can see the sea, he's greeting members of the military, retired members of the military, et cetera. and meanwhile, he also, while he's in normandy, is apologizing to volodymyr zelenskyy for the late delivery of arms when they were sorely needed to try to win the war against russia. while vladimir putin is saying that the american justice system is weaponized against donald trump. what's going on? >> well, joy, first, i'm never going to unsee the clip of that video you just played. i would say that i think something we're all feeling about the consequence of this

moment kind of converged in normandy which is that we kind of face two existential threats right now. at home, we have someone who is running for president to literally dismantle our democracy and turn it into an extension of his personal interests. and that's not some theory. that's something donald trump tells us every day. we face an existential threat to our democracy at home. abroad, we have for the first time since world war ii a major land war in which an aggressor has invaded a neighboring country in europe and hundreds of thousands of people have been killed and wounded in that war. and vladimir putin kind of represents the form of nationalism and autocracy that those young people were fighting when they stormed the beaches. we also sense these two things are somehow connected, not just because putin and trump have had their connections, because putin and trump both represent a brand of nationalism and autocracy and cult of personality that throughout history has been a threat to democracy. and so i think today, clearly,

we saw the kind of convergence of those two threats in the kind of speech that joe biden was delivering in normandy. >> you know, it is fascinating. we talked a little bit about this yesterday. i mean, putin really is kind of a modern day stalin. that's who he seems to revere. he wants to restore the soviet union the way it was then. the irony is what broke stalin from fdr and truman is he said now that we won the war, i get to eat half of europe, and the u.s. said no, you can't do that, so the cold war is born from there. you know, all of the alliances are scrambled where ukraine was then versus now, where russia was then versus now. the new alliances where germany is our ally, japan is our ally, it's all scrambled. it's like trying to understand the post world war ii world is also scrambled because the global south is like no longer interested in the west. they like despise the people who enslaved and colonized them. i feel like there's so much that's mixed up. has joe biden presented himself

as someone capable of managing all of those contradictions in a way that makes americans feel safe and secure enough to just give him four more years to keep going? >> well, i mean, i think he is certainly part of the way there. i think you're right, joy. the post cold war world has fractured. it's kind of come apart. i wrote, contributed to writing two of these speeches for barack obama around those anniversaries. vladimir putin was at those anniversaries because the russians were on our side in world war ii. he's not there anymore. he's broken off. there's no more a functional relationship between the west and russia. russia has thrown in completely with china to build an alternative world order. you have the american-led bloc and then the chinese and russian bloc, and then you have the rest of the world, it global south, which was by the way also the competing ground during the cold war. i think those are the ones who are sitting and looking at this and saying, who is going to stand up for our interests, who is going to be consistent in the

application of democratic principles? what joe biden has done as president is reconstituted america's core alliances. we're back friends with europe and our asian allies again. we have rallied the world to support ukraine against vladimir putin's invasion. he's not yet taken that additional step, i think, particularly in the wake of gaza, of signaling to the rest of the world that hey, we get that we're in a new world and we have to be consistent in the application of our principles. we have to care about what happens to people in the global south as much as we care about what happens to people in ukraine. but to be clear, one person who has absolutely no interest in doing any of that is donald trump. and the kind of order that he envisions is one in which he's kind of buddies with this collection of strong men around the world. be it vladimir putin or kim jong-un or viktor orban, the kind of soft dictator of hungary, these are the people he wants to associate with. with biden, we're trying to stitch together something new that is rooted in democratic principles and needs to be

expanded. with trump, we know what we're going to get and it's not good. >> it's also, he's -- it's not unusual for people who are fans of a president to write songs. my president is black came out when barack obama was in. people were proud you had this black president and people did cultural things around it. the difference is they weren't worshiping him. they weren't falling down in front of him like he's the golden calf, which is what they're doing with trump. let's go back to biden. the difference between the post world war ii order and now is that the global south, the place where you get all the resources, the stuff that makes you able to make a cell phone, the minerals, the oil, the wealth, it's all in concentrated in the part of the world that was colonized, and that had no other meaning besides being a colony. now it has meaning, and a lot of that world has its eyes trained directly on gaza, where you have israel apparently investigating and intimidating the icj, where you have george clooney's wife,

amal clooney, now going to the white house and saying hey, you're about to sanction icj members because they're issuing arrest warrants against netanyahu. one of those people is my wife. you better not do that because i'm your big fund-raiser and ally. do you really want to antagonize the clooneys? you have what just happened in the bombing of these schools with american bombs. nbc reporting, we don't have that reporting, but npr has it. we just dropped bombs not long after nikki haley signed some of them. we are in this awkward position, ben, and i wonder if biden has made the mental shift to that reality. >> look, i think, joy, the reality is american foreign policy is always come along with a heavy dose of hypocrisy. we talk about rules that we want to apply, but we only apply the rules to the people we don't like, to people like putin. i think gaza has put that on full display. i frankly think that was never the right in the to do, but it's

even more dangerous today because if we truly are in the kind of battle between democracy and autocracy that joe biden talks about and referenced again today, actually the bar should be higher for us to live by the same principles whether it applies to netanyahu or vladimir putin. we can't just say there's a ruled based international order in one part of the world but not in the other. the audience that matters, you can't deal with climate change without partnership in the global south. you can't deal with supply chains, you can't keep inflation down. this is something people miss. those supply chains run through asia and africa. countries looking at our policies and saying you're a bunch of hypocrites. you welcome the icc when they go after putin but call it outrageous when they go after netanyahu. i would like to see us emerge embracing more democracy, and the civil rights movement was deeply entwined with the liberation movements in africa.

when you had martin luther king and meggr evers, you had dozens of african countries throwing off the shackles of colonialism. the pursuit of social justice has always been connected taa global sense of justice. i think that's what the united states at its best stands for. that's what the people were storming the beaches to do, but something we have to globealize our vision just as we have to globealize it at home. >> i say a lot that world war ii, one of the things people don't realize it did, it launched the modern civil rights movement. because a lot of black soldiers came home and demanded the right to vote, and a lot of african nations emerged into liberation. you saw country after country liberating themselves. there was a movement toward more freedom. china and russia are in there. ben rhodes, always a pleasure talking to you. i appreciate you being here. all right, and coming up

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remarkable string of accountability. today, right wing conspiracy theorist alex jones agreed to liquidate his personal assets to pay the families of sandy hook victims the $1.5 billion he owes them in damages after spreading lies about the 2012 school massacre. a move that would ultimately end his ownership of the info wars company. it comes just days after jones openly sobbed on his conspiracy laden broadcast, baselessly claiming the deep state was trying to shut him down. >> i just want to stop these people. they got to be stopped. we have to stop them. >> no, alex, it's not the deep state. it's the families of murders babies who a court said you defamed. there's also steve bannon who as you may recall said this the day before the january 6th insurrection. >> listen, all hell is going to break loose tomorrow.

just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. >> well, after defying a subpoena and refusing to testify before the house select committee about that statement, bannon was ordered yesterday to report to prison by july 1st to serve a four-month sentence. just like former white house aide peter navarro. those are just some of the long list of trump attorneys, aides, and associates that are facing repercussions for their involvement with the big lie. rudy giuliani lost his law license, owes nearly $150 million for defaming georgia poll workers and just a few weeks ago was served an indictment in the arizona election interference case at his 80th birthday party. also facing charges in arizona for allegedly conspiring to overturn the election is trump's former chief of staff, mark meadows. today, he pleaded not guilty to those charges. on top of that, 2000 mules the conspiracy ridden movie about election fraud created by dinesh d'souza has been pulled from all

platforms. and of course, there's donald trump himself, who last week was found guilty by a jury of his peers on 34 felony counts. and while some of these are state cases, some are federal. it's an important reminder that no matter how slow it may sometimes feel, the wheels of justice are in fact turning. and the trump to prison pipeline is real. i'm joined by david jolly, former republican congressman who is no longer affiliated with the republican party, who is also an msnbc political analyst. he is affiliated with us which we're grateful for. david, i wanted to do this today because i do think that on the democratic side, there's a kind of despair that has set in thinking trump is superman, but he's not. he's been involved in 4,000 lawsuits, something like that in his lifetime. every time he's gone to court in new york, he's lost. you know, whether it's the case where he owes $500 million, whether it's the e. jean carroll case, or the felony counts, and look at all the people he's left

disbarred and jailed. your thoughts. >> joy, it's hard sometimes to recognize this, but you're exactly right. given all of the challenges that donald trump and the people around him have thrown at our republic, at american democracy, one of the themes of his first term and thereafter is that the courts largely held. certainly imperfectly, there are lots of problems with delays in prosecutions, with certain decisions. we're watching them right now, but we can see evidence of accountability, however long it takes. and i appreciate that in your lead-in you point out the victims in each of these cases. for alex jones, the victims were the families of sandy hook. 26 people who lost their lives and the judgment was on their behalf. for steve bannon, the victim was the american people because he knew stuff about january 6th, refused to cooperate. same with mark meadows, supporting a boss who was trying to steal the election. rudy giuliani, on down the line. these are people who engaged in crimes against somebody. and sure, some of the verdicts

were civil, because that's the best that justice could uphold, but justice has delivered. i don't think there's many tears for people tonight, however many alex jones has, nobody is wasting their tears on that guy. >> you know, and you mentioned the tears but i think that is part of the point. the level of self-victimhood on the right, the way that these privileged men, most of whom are wealthy, well off, steve bannon, even though he dresses like a slob, he's actually very rich. he doesn't look like it, but he is. these men have made millions. alex jones is making something like $5 million a month torturing these families whose babies were killed. he thought it was fun and it was lucrative to torture them. now when he has to face the music, he's crying and expecting pity. bannon is like no one can hold me. someone can hold you, the yale. you're barely out in time to vote even if you have the right. they feel so sorry for themselves. talk a little bit about that. to me, that's what filtered out

to their base. they feel self-pity rather than pride in a country they supposedly love. >> that's right. these are largely weak little people who exercise a cruel arrogance to make up for their own insecurities and vanities. they found a perfect support network in donald trump as their leader. because that's exactly who he is as well. always the victim, and nobody understands, he was not privileged, he's the victim, et cetera, et cetera. it's all what you can't say on tv, and it makes these moments of accountability so rich, joy, so rich. i mean, there are fewer despicable things that could be done than what alex jones did after the shooting in sandy hook. fewer despicable things that can be done than what steve bannon did when the american people were begging for information about january 6th, and fewer despicable things that could be done than trying to steal people's vote and defraud them of democracy which is what trump and meadows and giuliani and all these other people did. they deserve what's coming to them, but fundamentally, they are weak little fragile men who

have rested on their own privilege and now the ticket is up. >> and let me just put for the audience, i want to show you the ripple effects from donald trump. 18 people were indicted in fulton county. 18 indicted in arizona. 15 indicted in michigan, the fake elector schemes, three indicted as fake electors in whisk wriv. two indicted for obstruction or mishandling of documents in florida. 1400 were arrested for busting into the capitol. you gethrough manafort, gaetz, peter navarro, george papadopoulos, michael flynn, kenneth chesebro, and sidney powell because donald trump was embarrassed he lost an election. how sad these people threw their lives away for that. on the other side of that, joe biden, this is what he has said about whether he will move heaven and earth like trump did when he just lost an election to save his own son hunter from prosecution. take a listen.

>> let me ask you, will you accept the jury's outcome, their verdict no matter what it is? >> yes. >> and have you ruled out a pardon for your son? >> yes. >> david jolly, unlike donald trump, joe biden loves his kids. he loves that boy. and no matter -- that man, he's a grown man. all of his failings, i believe 100% he will let him if he is convicted go to jail, let him get checked in. he'll visit him every day but he will do nothing to save him because he's actually a decent person. that's where it is, that's the choice. >> yeah. a remarkable moment, really. not just looking at a loving father and his son, but consider the contrast between trump and his followers and then joe biden. first of all, many of those people you showed related to trump would not go to jail if they would just shut up. if they would just own up to the truth and cooperate, they wouldn't go to jail. they refused to accept the system and that's why they're in so much trouble. contrast that with joe biden. a president who has refused to

interfere in the prosecution of his opponent, donald trump, and refused to interfere in the prosecution of his own son, hunter biden. we know what donald trump does when it comes to using the levers of government and the executive office to effect accountability. he tries to save himself every day and save his people. he tried to replace the attorney general, to replace prosecutors to avoid losing the election and then avoid accountability for trying to steal it. joe biden has said, i am a president with sobriety and a seriousness. and i will not interfere with the prosecution of donald trump, nor my son, a remarkable moment. >> i have a lot of criticisms of joe biden, i think as people who watch the show know, but you cannot criticize his love for his son. if he was weaponizes the justice department, why wouldn't he do it to save his son? david jolly, thank you very much. coming up next, physical play and questionable calls are dominating headlines in the wnba. the atlantic's jemele hill joins

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folks that are just joining the wnba and following women's sports is unfair to the women of this league who have laid the groundwork for caitlin clark to

come in and now take it to the next level. that's all i'm saying in these conversations. >> who talks about women, who talks about women's sports nor than first take? >> stephen a., respectfully, you could have been doing this three years ago if you wanted to. >> that viral moment encapsulates the general tone and feeling about the wnba and women's basketball in general these days. espn analyst monica mcnut absolutely cooked host stephen a. smith as they discussed the latest controversy to come out of the sudden boom of interest in the wnba which seems to center on caitlin clark and in it a conversation about disparate treatment for black and white players after chenied carter who is black shoulder shot clark, knocking her down. the foul was upgraded after the game to a flagrant foul. clark has become a polarizing figure due to all the fanfare

over her entry into a league that's been around for 27 years. her main rival during their college years, chicago sky rookie angel reese is one of many players who have spoken out about disparate treatment. >> i look back in 20 years and be like, yeah, the reason why we watch women's basketball is not just because of one person. it's because of me too. i want you to realize that. >> it comes amid a food fight in the media in particular over whether clark is being treated fairly or if she's benefitting from white brivolog. during the same show earlier this week, stephen a. smith suggested veteran players are jealous of the attention clark gets. nba legend charles barkley has defended clark from petty haters and espn host pat mcafee apologized after calling clark a white b-word in a rant meant to highlight her accomplishments. it's a race based tale as long as time. men picking sides for no reason. i'm joined by jemele hill, contributing writer at the

atlantic and host of the jemele hill is unbothered podcast and my friend. which is it, it is hateration or a legitimate beef by black women players? >> well, i don't think it's -- the hateration part has been completely blown out of proportion. and just because you bring up inequity, that doesn't mean you're saying you're jealous of the person who is receiving maybe a lot of the attention, a lot of the fanfare, endorsement deals, but through caitlin clark, we are able to get a lens and a window into how this majority black woman-led league has been treated over time. i mean, case in point, the charter flight issue which has been in the media. you know, this was an issue that the players have been raising for years, and there have been incremental steps along the way. first it was for the playoffs. then it was for the playoffs and back-to-back games. and there was this sense that the next collective bargaining agreement, that charter flights all the time would be in there. all it took was a video of

caitlin clark being harassed in an airport by somebody in the media, and then all of a sudden they are charter flights now for everybody. it begs the question that you could have been doing this all along, and what you find is this systemic pattern in women's sports in particular that often women are treated that way because people can get away with it and there is no system of accountability. just as a quick example, a couple years ago, a lot of people caught wind of the fact there was disparate treatment between the men's and women's college basketball players. you saw the women, sedona prince, tiktok, and pointed this out as did others in women's college basketball. they gave women a couple yoga mats, some dumbbells that looked like they got them at a garage sale. meanwhile, men have all this equipment, very pretty looking stuff. and it wasn't that they couldn't afford it. it's just that because they knew they could get away with it, and no one shine a light on it. what you're finding now is through caitlin clark, we're able to see how they have been

treating these women up until this point. that's created a lot of conversation and frankly what i don't like about how many of the men with these platforms are shaping the conversation is they're reducing it to pettiness, to jealousy, they're playing on terreo types and tropes that are said about women in general, but especially black women. and this is a black women led league, and to me, that has really devalued the conversation we need to be having. >> somebody very smart said to me recently the challenge with women's basketball is most of the stars are black, but -- most of the great players are black, but most of the stars are white. whether it's who's getting rewarded by espn, who is getting noticed by magazines. if there were charter flights, brittney griner would not have ended up in a gulag. these ladies are flying commercial and they're not treated like the men are. how much of this do you think is the marketing potential of a caitlin clark?

quite frankly, this is a league that is largely black women. it's largely lgbtq. she's a white heterosexual woman. so if you're trying to get white dads to go spend their money and buy season tickets, she seems like a marketing opportunity. how much of it is that? >> i don't know why people find that to be controversial to think about that. we know that marketing is about ability, talent, all those things. and nobody is saying that caitlin clark doesn't have those things. she's incredibly talented. she's broken records, she's playing a playing style that people love that is very representative of what we see today particularly on the men's side. but yes, it helps that she's white, straight, and from iowa in a league that has faced marketing challenges over the last three decades it's been in existence. it's faced marketing challenges because of the things you mention. because 70% of the players are black women. because a third of them identify as lgbtq plus. yes, it has faced challenges. by the way, the nba went through the same thing. you know, before magic and bird

arrived and took the nba finals off tape delay, the nba was in a very vulnerable spot. it was a black-led league, there were drug problems, there were a lot of issues. then you fast forward to the '90s and 2000s where there was the merge with hip-hop. that's how you got the dress code, because you had the same issue. a predominantly black league that had white fans or more importantly, white people who wanted to invest in that league so they had to, quote, clean it up by making the players look a certain way so they could market and appeal to everyone. so when you say that caitlin clark's whiteness and the fact she's straight plays a role, underline a role in her popularity, that's not a dis to caitlin clark. it's simply america. >> i love angel reese, i think she's great. jamele, you're great. that's why i invited you. you were just the person i wanted to talk to about this. and coming up, maga republicans complicated,

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last question, we're out of time but one more question. during jim crow, could you family have existed? you are in an interracial marriage. your wife is a white conservative activist. could you family have existed at all during jim crow?

>> no, it could not, joy. we all know that. that's why i'm pleased to live in america today as opposed to america in that time. but we cannot ignore the realities of not having fathers in homes. that is important to our black people today and all people today as we move forward for a better america. >> we are out of time. what i'm grateful for is we do not live in the jim crow era and that fathers do not face lynching. >> i'm very grateful of that. >> perhaps don't bring up jim crow when you're trying to make that example. >> that was a small part of my interview with byron donalds last night. we'll be dissecting that with our friday political panel. basil smikle, our brand-new msnbc political analyst, the public policy director at the roosevelt house institute of hunter college, and democratic strategist and clay cane, host of the clay cane show and author of, the grift, the downward spiral of black republicans from

the party of lincoln to the cult of trump. i have my copyright here. i believe i'm still waiting for a signature, but i have it here. it's why i wanted to have you on today. because i want you to explain to me what these guys are doing. because byron donalds, he wouldn't know from personal experience, his family wasn't jamaican, his family wasn't here during jim crow. but he's smart enough to know that life was not better for black families during jim crow, yet he went right to that trope after talking about having a single mom. meaning he's latching on to the trope that what lbj did was create a bunch of black welfare queens by saving us from poverty. why do they do that? >> it is for proximity to power. it is to get a lot of donations from the heritage foundation. i have to say the interview was so powerful, joy, with the second edition, i might have to include some quotes with the grift. but i want to say this, too. i mean this respectfully.

this is not an indictment of interracial relationships as you know, i have a black father and a white mother. byron donalds, tim scott, herschel walker, wesley hunt, they have all made these disgusting comments about the black family and black fathers and black mothers and black fathers must stay with black mothers and black marriages. yet they're all partnered with women who are not black. so it's very perplexing to me that you have these huge indictments of the black family, and you are part of what the black person, if you have this great investment in it, and you're making yourself an expert on it, then i would think that that would be important to you in your own personal life. but it isn't. because it isn't about the black family. because if it was about the black family, you would care about fair housing, fair wages, health care, voting rights. the john lewis voting rights act that byron donalds voted against and then went back to his partner who happens to not be black. so it is a racial security

blanket, as some great folks said on social media. and i think about an article from the heritage foundation saying black needs a black wives matter movement. it is a grifting on your race, it is the blueprint from my book, and it is really disappointing. and my father, his birthday was this week, was in my life every step of the way. my grandfather was raised in the jim crow south and left the south to build his own family. he knows what he's doing. and i think that his supporters may be -- he used the word invigorated, might be invigorated by those words. >> it is a thing, and tim scott, and both of them claim to be trump's vp picks. i don't believe it. first, byron donalds is in florida. just like he was going to be speaker and that was also admitted to be just because they wanted to have somebody black. tim scott has now launched this

$14 million outreach effort to minority voters based on what? what black people is he leading into the party? i can't -- i don't want to use a derogatory term for what he's doing, but it's a dance he does for donald trump. he dances for trump. humiliates himself for trump. how is that supposed to bring black people into the republican party? >> that's exactly right. if you remember after the 2012 election, there was supposed to be this exploration of why the republican party is not attracting people of color. look how well that did. it really is >> he is an avatar for what other people are saying, not only internally, but out loud. that is somebody who looks like me is being used to go ahead and promote those kinds of talking points. it is really antithetical, i think, to the people who fought

and died on a movement that allowed him to have the kind of marriage that he now celebrates. it is really just absolutely absurd, but it also signals a policy initiative, a policy term . because i don't think about this in a vacuum. i have to think about this as a larger, broader strategy that someone, somewhere, whether it is heritage or any other group is now trying to make policy based on some of the things that people that look like me, that should not be saying these things, based on what they are saying. so it is absolutely really, really disturbing. and i would just make this other point, that these really cynical opportunities that the trump campaign, this so-called outreach to communities of color, to african-american voters is so halfhearted, it is so cynical. and, quite frankly, i hope that

voters really turn a blind eye to it and see it for what it really is. >> right, he talked about building generational wealth. if you want to build generational wealth tellier friends to stop suing the fearless fund so the fearless fund can keep giving $20,000 grants to black women. the people on their side or suing anybody who tries to help black women help themselves. black women are supposedly welfare queens when they try to build businesses with of them because they were supposed to give their money to black men instead of other black women. we can even help ourselves or you are mad about that, too. maybe talk to our friends and tell them to stop suing them. let me move on to clarence thomas. you want to talk about the graft, clarence thomas has now revealed even more money that he got from harlan crow. tips to bali. almost $4 million

in lucre on a new financial disclosure. what is this about? is this just a desperation that he was not able to become wealthy otherwise, so he is going to live rich and he does not care anymore if everyone knows? >> yeah, if he would remain the alleged lack nationalist that he was in the beginning of his so-called career he wouldn't be where he was today. and when i think about these massive donations i think about some younger folks in my life, and i say if you are outraged by clarence thomas, this is incentive to vote. clarence thomas, let's say he resigns in the next initiation, and it is, god forbid, a trump administration. they are going to replace clarence thomas with someone even worse. that is what they are going to do. i am not even going to name names. they could be even worse than clarence thomas. rosa parks warned us in 1991 how dangerous clarence thomas would be. and he is doing it in plain sight. there are no ethics.

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well, friends, we made it to the end of another week, thank god. that means it is time to play our favorite game, who won week? back with me, battles michael and clay cane. who one of the week? >> i say dr. fauci. for marjorie taylor greene to not use this title, as a black man i know what it is like to be in a room and have someone not acknowledge your potential. to be going through this, even how he took the country through covid, it is remarkable that at the beginning of his career he had did the same thing at the beginning of the a.i.d.s. crisis with another republican president, ronald reagan, would not acknowledge its existence. >> yeah, good for him. and he always stands up to bullies, i really like him a lot. clay cane, who won the week? >> today is the 81st history

birthday of one of my heroes, nikki giovanni. educator, poet, activist. 81 years old. she had a huge influence on me in college, i know all of her work. so, for me, 81 years blessing us. she one of the week. >> i love that. that is fabulous. well, i am picking all of the incredible veterans, black and white, old and older, who attended the anniversary in normandy. we know that the world war ii changed the configuration of the world. it started the civil rights movement. i wanted to call out waverley was a junior, a medic who is part of the only lack combat units to take part in d-day. he got his service posthumously honored. we also the menu see there who was honored, he was 100 years old and he got to meet the president today. and god bless these folks. some of them came from hospice to be there because they just wanted to get their flowers. that is tonight's readout, all in with chris hayes starts now. tonight on all in. >> i know harlan ha