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we have a big show ahead, including a possible vice presidential pick. florida congressman byron donalds will be with us. but we start with breaking news tonight out of israel where four hostages are receiving medical attention in tel-aviv hours after being rescued in gaza by israeli security forces. and eight months after being kidnapped by hamas at an israeli musical festival on october 7th, president biden earlier today in paris applauded the rescue alongside french president emmanuel macron. >> before i begin my remarks, i want to echo president macron's comments welcoming the safe rescue for hostages that were returned to their families in israel. we won't stop working until all the hostages come home and a ceasefire is reached. that is essential to happen. >> that was president biden --

that was president biden alongside of president macron in france, but first let's go to the breaking news out of israel earlier today with emotional moments as four hostages were reunited with family after being rescued during a daytime raid in sen etral gaza. the hostages were all held captive for nearly 250 days. we go to nbc's foreign correspondent matt bradley in london, matt? >> reporter: well, this is a huge day for israelis and one of jubilation. and you can literally see and hear israelis celebrating in the streets of tel-aviv and on the beaches. this is a moment that a lot of people have been waiting for for eight months to the day. we saw on october 7th, the original attack, that killed 1,200 israelis. they kidnapped more than 200 people. now four of them have been freed. just to give you a sense of just how illusive this goal has been

for so long, in the eight months we've seen the israelis fighting in the gaza strip, they've killed more than 36,000 civilians, they've only managed to free by their own hands three of those remaining hostages. there are thought to be 84 remaining. now that number has more than doubled, and actually, there was a lot of pessimism around this operation. now it looks as those benjamin netanyahu right when he needed it most has a success story in the military operations in the gaza strip. >> thank you, nbc's foreign correspondent matt bradley. joining me now from france, touring with the president, is congressman mark, democrat of texas. congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. you're traveling with the president in france as details of the hostage rescue operation

came out. what can you tell us about the reaction in the biden camp to the news? >> yeah, obviously, everyone here is elated that these hostages have been freed and that they were alive and that they seem relatively healthy. i think that is also important to note that the u.s. did provide overhead surveillance for this raid to help make it successful. and i've been saying all along that the faster all of the hostages are released or rescued, the faster that this campaign, that this war comes to an end, which is, i think, something that all sides want. and so i applaud the biden administration for providing that overhead surveillance help to the israelis and congratulate the israelis on a successful mission and, most importantly, these families. i know that for them to get their loved ones back are very important to them and that must feel amazing tonight. but like the president say, we

won't start -- we won't stop working until all the hostages are home, and that is going to be key to this conflict finally ending. >> and of course, the president has laid out a proposal to try and do that and there seems some reluctance on netanyahu's side. we'll see if this changes as we move toward what the president has said a two-state solution. today president biden with the french president laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in paris. take a listen to the president speaking from the beaches of normandy yesterday. >> the most natural instinct is to walk away, to be selfish, to force our will upon others, to seize power, never give up. american democracy asked the hardest of things, to believe that we're part of something

bigger than ourselves. so dpoksy begins with each of us, begins when one person decides there's something more important than themselves. >> i was moved by president biden's tribute to those brave american who is fought and died to defeat fascism, but i couldn't help but think of his opponent, former president trump who in 2018, according to general john kelly, refused to visit the graves of u.s. fallen soldiers because he said they were losers. he spent this year's d-day anniversary holding a rally in arizona complaining about his felony convictions in his hush money trial. can you speak a bit about the importance of this moment and the contrast between these two men running to be our commander-in-chief? >> yeah, absolutely. and reverend al, let me say this, because i would be remiss

as biden was laying that wreath, the black man that fought in the 320th barrage balloon battalion that have never gotten their due for what they did on that day, june 6, 1944, so many people in our country think that it was an invasion that did not include african american soldier, but it did. and one of them should be awarded the medal of honor posthumously. and so i hope that that happen, but we need to give more recognition to these troops and president biden's the type of person that can make that happen. unlike president trump that would say things like that about our soldiers. and let me tell you, i don't know john kelly well, but i know him well enough from my time on armed services committee when he was still active duty, that is not something that he would make up. that is not something that -- >> and those black soldiers were fighting even though at home they had to live under jim crow laws.

let me go to this -- >> absolutely, they were. >> you represent a district just a few hundred miles from the u.s./mexico border this. week president biden announced an executive action to limit the number of daily asylum requests after republicans in congress killed a more comprehensive immigration bill to please trump, who wants to run on the issue in the election. can you talk about the significance of the biden order and the damage republicans are doing by playing politics rather than working with democrats to address the problem? >> yeah, absolutely. and i support the president on trying to clean up the -- a lot of the disorder at the border that, quite frankly, is the fault of president trump. president trump went to speaker johnson and said, do not let president biden pass this comprehensive immigration reform bill because it will make him popular. we need for people to keep being

buzzed. we need for people to continue to see masses gather at our border, because if that goes away, then biden will get reelected. everybody knows that happens. all my republican colleagues knows that happens, and that is why president biden has signed this executive order. it's congress' responsibility, and it is the republicans' responsibility to put a comprehensive reform, immigration reform bill on the floor that we can pass. and this one, quite frankly -- and i want to remind everybody -- the senator from oklahoma that put this bill together, he got a 100% rating from club for growth. that is how conservative he is. so for people saying that it was the liberal bill and it allowed thousands of undocumented -- that's just not true. that is a lie. that is an absolute lie. this was considered the toughest -- and we saw it from conservative news outlets, we

saw frit the editorial page of "the wall street journal", this is considered the toughest immigration bill that has ever come through capitol hill and republicans killed it because they wanted to help trump. and that is the type of stuff that the american public is sick and tired of. >> now, congressman, before i let you go, we're out of time, but we've been talking about d-day and the legacy of those who served there, including roughly 2,000 african american troop, many of whom came home to fight against jim crow discrimination in our own country. our next guest, your colleague, byron donldz, someone donald trump is reportedly considering as a vice presidential pick, has suggested black families were more together under that regime of segregation. what's your response to that? >> i know donald well, and i'm surprised that he said that, because -- and i've heard other people say things like that before, but what people forget

is that during segregation that black educational attainment rates were much lower than whites. when you look at the black poverty rate during that time period, it was astonishingly high. and all of those things have improved with jim crow being erased. and of course, i would never be in congress were we still under jim crow. i think about how i got my start as an elected official in the state legislature, the county that i'm from you had to be elected countywide to be a state legislator. you could not get elected in a single-member district because they were illegal in texas. and all of those thing disenfranchised us and held us back. and so things weren't good under jim crow, regardless of what the marriage rates may have been during that time, we have excelled, we have gotten ahead, we are doing much better post-jim crow.

and i need for my republican colleagues to understand that. >> and we still have a long way to go, but we've come a long way. thank you, texas congressman marc veasey, live from france with the congressional delegation travelling with president biden. now to those recent comments by florida congressman buy ronald donalds that certainly seems like a positive spin on the jim crow era. donald says critics are missing the context of what he said, so we invited him to "politicsnation" to make his case. congressman, welcome to the show. you just heard what congressman veasey had to say about your comments. you've also been criticized by house minority leader hakeem jeffreys and the head of the dnc, jamie harrison, both of them black. one of them black from brooklyn like you were born in brooklyn, i was born in brooklyn. what's your response? >> my response is is that it's very interesting how people can just lie and mischaracterize what i said. the video's on my social media.

you can listen to it in full. i never said or insinuated anything about jim crow being better. just was talking about the marriage rates of black families in america during that time period. it's an impeer cal fact. >> you mentioned jim crow -- wait a minute, i watched your video. you mentioned jim crow four times. one time you referred to families, all families did less -- they had higher divorce rates in the '60s and '70s as the nation opened up. this wasn't because of jim crow. blacks couldn't vote. those families -- >> i never said that. >> those families couldn't go downtown. >> but i never said that. >> to in any way infer that black families were better in jim crow, i mean, i've said things that i later said i shouldn't have said. can't you own that even sanitizing jim crow, even if that wasn't your intention was to say that's my intention, i'm sorry for using those words? >> well, first of all, i never sanitized jim crow. i was just talking about the era

in which black marriage rates were higher than they were during the great -- >> but why did you say jim crow? >> because that's the period of time. >> the period of time with us the '50s. you said jim crow. >> that is the era in which marriage rates were higher. >> congressman, congressman -- >> talking about georgia's law he lied. are we not allowed to talk about that era or only when we want to recall all the history of jim crow and all the tragedies that occurred during jim crow. we got to choose which one we're going to do. >> you name a race-based law, then you cannot take race out of the fact. jim crow was a law against black people. you weren't just talking about the ere raf of dwight eisenhower and harry truman, you named jim crow. there's only one way you could deal with jim crow, and that's by race. i mean, look, look, you and i

have mutual friends. people say you're a straight shooter. we may disagree on politics. i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, but look, you were born in brooklyn, you went down into the south, went to florida state, you have an interracial marriage, you're the congressman of a district that's not a black district, i mean, how can you even live with yourself acting like jim crow was a good era or better era for blacks? what happened to you? >> okay, that's real cute. that's real cute. i did not say that. and i'm not going to sit here and have you insinuate that against me. because right now you're lying about what i said. i did say jim crow. i did reference it three times. >> four times. >> that's not to say it was better. i never said those words never came out of my mouth. when are you going to get that through your skull and everybody else's skull? i never said that. and the difference between me and other republican, i'm not going to sit here -- >> you said it was better for us under jim crow to bring families together, did you say that? everybody's lying.

okay. >> go look at my words. >> well, all right. >> did i say jim crow was better, no, i did not. i did not say jim crow was better. i never said any of those things. i was talking about black families and black family marriage rates during that time. >> okay. then what did jim crow do to contribute to black families? hello? >> i'm not talking -- oh my gosh -- >> you said that you said under jim crow black families, so explain to me what jim crow did to help black families. >> the marriage rates during the jim crow era were higher for black families because of the point of the great society. i did not say that. i said they were. and this is the problem. because you're trying to say that i said because of jim crow marriages were at a higher rate. i did not say that. i said during. >> but why did you use jim crow? jim crow was a race law? first of all, on great society

did programs like manpower training, model city, train young people, hew didn't do anything about families, health, education, welfare. so i mean, what are you talking about? they were not the antithesis to marriage. congressman, all right, let's go to this, donald trump suggested twice he might secretory bugs against political enemies if he's elected president. he also tried to link his legal problems to the injustices after man americans have suffered at the hand of our legal system, why should black americans believe trump is serious about criminal justice reform when he only seems concerned about it when it applied to him? you know the record, you're from brooklyn, what he did around the central park case. you know the record that he was president when george floyd was killed by police. he said nothing. had protesters moved from the front of a church, made a speech denouncing the protesters. he has no problem talking about

locking up his political opponents or homeless or asylum seekers, but he now wants to act like he is a victim of something, what is your response to that, congressman? >> well, first of all, during the trump presidency he also signed into law reforms to criminal justice reform. the first step back which actually helped get a lot of people released who were in prison under the 94 crime bill authored by joe biden, one of the worst pieces of crime legislation that's impacted a lot of people in the black community. >> you and i agree on the 94 crime bill. i marched on it, and joe biden has said that it went too far. but donald trump has not dealt with his own record of discrimination. if you talking about the two candidates, donald trump, unlike biden, who talked about how the crime bill did go too far, donald trump has not dealt with his discrimination that he was sued by the justice department and housing, what he did with central park five, what he's done in various race cases, and explain as president what he did

with george floyd. >> what did he do with george floyd? he didn't do anything with george floyd, what are you talking about? >> that's exactly right. he did not support legislation around -- >> -- do need to stop. well, first of all, let's talk about that legislation. >> -- policing bill that he did not -- >> there were two bills that were going through congress at the time the bill that could have went through and passed was the one by senator tim scott. and the only difference between that bill and the bill that was being moved by my democrat colleagues is because the -- my democrat colleagues wanted to get rid of qualified immunity. that was the only difference in the bill. local law enforcement universally said if you get rid of qualified immunity, you're going to have less officers on the streets. and so the democrats did not want that bill to go forward. i believe nancy pelosi was speaker at the time. and that's why that bill could not get through the house. >> they did not vote for the george floyd justice in policing act, and did you vote for it? you in congress. >> i wasn't in congress at the time when that occurred.

>> you were not, did you support it? >> i was not in congress. >> did you support it? >> no, because that would have gotten rid of qualified immunity, which is bad for public safety. >> the only way you would have supported a bill to hold police accountable is if police would not be individually accountable? is that what you're say something. >> yeah, because if you put -- most police officers make $60,000 to $70,000 a year. if they are not individually liable in civil court, how many people are going to sign up to be police officers? >> maybe they wouldn't put knees on people's necks. maybe they wouldn't put knees on people's necks. maybe if they knew they were liable, they would behave differently. >> officers do not do that. >> the vast majority of people -- >> every single l day, you know this, al, come on now. >> but that doesn't mean we don't need laws. let me go to this one -- >> a bad solution, it would not

have been good. >> well, and donald trump opposed it and did not come with any police reform at all. marjorie e-taylor greene -- >> that's not true, tim scott had a bill -- >> what police reform bill did he -- >> go back to the tim scott bill which was moving through the senate. nancy pelosi wouldn't hear it in the house. >> what was the police reform bill that happened during george floyd that donald trump as president of the united states, when george floyd was killed, what did he support for police reform? donald trump. >> at the time, donald trump was supporting the tim scott measure that could not get a hearing in the house because nancy pelosi wouldn't allow it. you can have senator scott on. he'll tell you about it. i'm quite sure he l. >> i've met with senator scott, and what i'm saying to you is did donald trump then say, we'll do this about police reform -- >> nancy pelosi would not let it through the house. she was speaker, ask nancy why she didn't put it on the floor. >> i'm asking you what was the republican bill around reform. >> i just told you.

>> a man was killed. >> i just told you the bill. it's the tim scott bill. >> donald trump went in front of that church and stood up there with the bible, he did not tout any reform bill at all, end of story. and you and i both know that, come on. >> i'm sorry, so the only bills that matter -- or the only bills that materer the ones that have a name that a president sign, not the actual legislation that's moving through congress? >> he could have named a bill. he was president of the united states. >> you know that's a ridiculous standpoint. >> if tim scott's was the bill, then why didn't the president come out and call on the congress and the country to rally around that bill? he said nothing. you know it, and i know it. >> first of all, i don't know, donald trump talks a lot. you shold ask him that question. >> he does talk a lot. >> nancy pelosi did not let that bill come up in the house. she was speaker. ask her. >> all right, let me ask you this then, you are -- could be a great example, i've known black republican, i've worked with some black republicans, arthur fletcher.

i have a lot of respect for others -- richard parsons. i was able to come up in brooklyn as a kid, many of us make mistakes, you corrected, went to college, moved down to florida, went to florida state. a congressman of a district that's not black, in an interracial marriage, the civil rights movement made that possible for you and i. you're rumored to be on trump's list of potential running mates. several of those candidates have received vetting materials from the campaign. i want to ask you, you received vetting materials and you came up and stood for donald trump in the court when he was on trial a few weeks ago. you and some of your colleagues. and now he's convicted of 34 felonies. did they ask you whether you were a convicted felon on that form? >> well, first of all, i'm not going to talk about any of the conversations i have with the

president or the trump campaign around this, because that's all going to happen. he's going to make that decision. i'm quite sure everybody in trump world knows my past backwards and forwards from when i was 18 years old and going forward. >> i'm not talking about your past. i'm talking about whether or not they were interested in knowing everybody's past, there's more than blacks on the list, i assume. and donald trump now is a convicted felon, is it not a legitimate issue to ask people on the ticket their criminal background? >> well, al, i've been very open about, you know, the mistakes i made when i was 18, 20 years old. >> i said that, i commend you for that. >> they already know. so putting it on a form doesn't matter. like i said, i'm not going to comment on that -- >> i want to know if all of the candidates are being asked about their criminal background. does it matter to the trump people? >> i don't know. i'm not running the vetting. that's the trump campaign.

they're doing that. >> all right, but again, you came up and you defended him, and you stood with other, all of you all dressed like donald trump and looking like you come from new york, remember the rock eshsttes, radio city across the street, all of you in uniform and all, you stood up for him. have you ever gone to court for any other defendant since you yourself said you were able to correct your mistakes? have you ever been to court for any other defendants? >> no, but you know -- >> okay, thank you for being on tonight. i appreciate you being on, and we'll have you back. congressman byron donalds, thank you. >> take it easy. and let's go to coming up trump republicans are recruiting an army of so-called poll watchers, but don't let their prying eye keep you from exercising your right to vote. i'll explain next in tonight's got ya. i'll explain next in tonight's got ya you'll need vinegar, a large salad bowl and... oh, hi! have you tried tide fabric rinse? it works after your detergent to fight deep odors

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claimed to have knowledge of the verdict before it was announced. if the post proved to be real evidence of jury misconduct, the judge could set aside the conviction before sentencing, but only if proven to have impacted the rights of the defendant. let's bring in my political panel maria teresa, ceo of voter latino, and carlos, political analyst and former republican congressman of florida. maria, we're getting some of our first indications of how voters are reacting to the trump hush money trial verdict. "the new york times" recently spoke with two -- with nearly 2,000 voters who previously took prt in their survey on donald trump's hush money trial. the poll found joe biden is gaining ground after trump's conviction. the former president was up by nearly three points before the verdict, and now he's only up by

one percentage point over biden. have trump's convictions shifted public opinion in a significant way in your opinion? could the twists and turns in the case from now until sentencing affect that, or is the verdict what people will remember the most? >> well, one, i think everybody's going to remember a president that had 34 felony counts, rev, that definitely we have never seen in our history. i think that will stick in people's mind. i think people will be watching july 11th closely to see what the sentencing is. but as equally important, how trump reacts. how does he react to these counts, because the moment that he accepts the sentencing, he finally will admit that he did something wrong. and i think that's one of the things that we're going to see that is parallel to what happened on the eve of the midterm elections in 2022. reverend, if you remember around that time, this was around the same summer where people were predicting a big, fast red wave.

and then people started tuning in. voters started tuning in to the january 6th committee hearings and learning how many shenanigans trump did as president to prevent the truth to come out, that he indeed tried to do an attempted coup. and by the time fall came around, when voting election came around, people decided that they were not going to do a red wave, because of two issues. one, abortion was on the ballot in many states, but equally important -- they didn't feel comfortable voting for a party that tried to cover up this president's misdeeds. >> carlos, switching gears, the president biden's son hunter's federal gun trial the going on. the prosecution rested their case yesterday afternoon. with the case in the hands of the defense, they called hunter biden's eldest daughter, naomi biden, to the stand as their first witness. she offered emotional testimony about her father, stating that

her dad seemed, quote, hopeful about his sobriety just before he bought the gun at the center of the case. following naomi's testimony, the jurors were dismissed for the weekend, and hunter biden's lawyer said they expect the case to be done by monday. closing arguments included. do you think the case will impact president biden at all politically, or particularly among swing voters such as republican who is don't like trump but are reluctant to vote for biden? >> well, rev, as we can see, none of these legal cases are going to have a major influence on a lot of voters, but it's those swing voters in key swing states that are going to decide this race, just like they did in 2020, and that's where we have to look for any shift in opinions. and the reason this hunter biden case is difficult for president biden is that remember in 2020

president biden cast himself as the traditional politician, as the decent man, as a source of stability for the country, and this really does muddy that message. so look, there's no comparison, right, between what donald trump is being charged with numerous cases and this, the president's son, being charged on a couple federal crimes. but it does muddy the waters, and this is what donald trump wants. he wants to try to create that equivalent so. we really do have to watch these polls to see how these swing voters react to all of these trials. >> now to president biden's executive action on immigration this week, which is aimed at curbing record migrant arooifls at the u.s./mexico border. some progressives feel biden should rescind his policy and pivot to other forms of relief for asylum seekers while republicans have criticized the

plan as an election year rus, arguing for tougher action, even though they themselves killed a border immigration deal in congress at the request of donald trump. carlos, staying with you, as a former congressman from a border state, how is this going to be received there? >> well, i think the president had to do something. why? because he's thinking about those swing voters and we know that sen etryst voters all over the country, rev, are frustrated with the immigration situation. they don't like the chaos that we've seen at the border. and look, ultimately the united states could not have the policy that anyone who came to the border could automatically be processed into the country, so i think he's going to get some credit for doing this, even though it's late. and i think it'll also give him the opportunity in the upcoming debate, for example, to shine a light on the fact that republicans refused to take legislative action that would have bound not just president biden but all future presidents on the immigration issue, would

have made this policy that biden just passed by executive order into law. so republicans, sure, they have played politics for -- >> plea eia, according to a recent research poll, hispanics were about evenly split on whether making it harder for asylum seekers to gain temporary legal status would improve the situation on the border. what's your reaction to this polling, and will you speak to the range of attitudes about immigration amongst many different communities that make up the latino voting block in the united states. >> of course, reverend. i think one of the biggest challenges that people ask in these polls is that they don't recognize that there's really -- when we talk about immigration in this country, we're talking about two issues that impact disproportionately latino voters. one is for folks living in the border state what is happening

at the border is becoming more and more difficult to absorb folks in an orderly way. part of it is because congress, a republican congress, did not provide the president with a needed reinforcements of not just border agents but more importantly lawyers to process these cases. so in many ways, president biden, he has been forced to do what he did just last week. but the other issue of immigration that we seem to have forgotten, and it's the millions of individuals that have lived here for 20, 30 years who have american loved ones who are frustrated that they cannot get the working permits they need to they can come out of the shadows and at the same time continue paying their taxes so. when i look at what is going to impact biden the most come election, what is he going to do that impacts the daily lives of american children, of american spouses who have undocumented loved ones who, again, have lived here for 20, 30 years who have been paying taxes and what

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"politicsnation." republicans led by florida governor ron desantis continue to rerace and distort black history in florida schools. but many activists at the grassroots are pushing back. last week florida's education board said it was plowing ahead with social studies curriculum that talks about how african americans learned useful skills from slavery, even as the state bans books and so-called critical race theory. joining me now is jennifer jenkins, the chair of the new pac educated we stand and florida school board third districts democratic member. thank you for joining me today. let me go right to it. i've been following the situation in the sunshine state closely in my capacity as the head of the national action network. i've traveled there to demonstrate against the erasing

of black history, can you talk about the current state of our schools in florida? >> yeah, i mean, absolutely. you know, just watching the recent comments of congressman byron donalds it's disturbing but not surprising coming from the state of florida. i live in brevard county, the home of civil rights leader moore. he fought for equal pay for black teachers. he founded our first chapter of our naacp and registered over 100,000 african americans to vote. and because of that activism, he was fired and stripped of his teaching license and was brutally murdered alongside his wife in their home on christmas day by the kkk. so when politicians say things like black families were voting overwhelmingly con tefshly during jim crow, they were still fighting for their right to vote. this was a horrific and shameful

time in our history. it institutionalized economic, educational, and social disadvantages for most african americans. and when we have elected officials who actively campaign on whitewashed, revisionist history, they're telling us they don't want to stop at rewriting our history books, they're aiming to ensure we relive the darkest parts of it. that's why i founded educated we stand to fight back against this extreme agenda that we're seeing here in the state of florida. >> now, your pac, educated we stand, is recruiting and electing school board members that will help limit the influence of extremism in education. you also unseated a moms for liberty cofounder in a contentious school board -- why is this so important to fight this issue on a local level? >> it's so important to me. i am a mom and an educator and i'm married to a teacher. it's why i ran for school board in the first place. and you know, educated we stand draws inspiration from leaders like yourself on how to organize and mobilize when there's a call

to action. rev, i was in the crowd as you stood on the steps of the capitol in tallahassee during the red for ed movement, the year i actually filed to run for school board. and after i defeated the founder of moms for liberty in my race, we became ground zero for a national trend of an idealogical takeover of public education by far right extremists. unfortunately, this isn't just in the state of florida. we're seeing this in all 50 states. and i felt compelled to organize the opposition, because make no mistake about it, the future of public education and the foundation of our democracy is on the ballot this november. >> now, we've talked about the important work your organization is doing at the district level, and obviously, there's an important presidential election going on that will determine the larger direction of our country. how do you make sure that you can continue to help parents and concerned citizens take back school boards from extremists regardless of who is sitting in

the white house or the state house for that matter. >> i think it's really important for there to be an organization to be able to combat the disinformation and misinformation that is continuously being put out by not only republicans but groups like moms for liberty. you know, educated we stand prides itself on true civic education, not far right indoctrination, and florida republicans are doing everything in their power to continuously undermine voters, undermine students and parents who reject their extremism and more specifically to undermine communities of color. so we need to do our best to educate voters on who is that pro-public education candidates, even those soon to be voters, about the dangers of limiting voting access and learning from our history so we don't allow florida republicans to repeat it. >> jennifer jenkins, thank you for being with us. >> thanks. up next, an outrageous decision by a georgia court. stay with us. sion by a georgia court. stay with us

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>> that does it for me. thank you for watching. if you missed my amazing interview with possible vice president, go watch it online at msnbc.com i will see you tomorrow for another life our "politicsnation". i will be joined by the hispanic caucus chair as well as actor wendell pierce who faced racism here in new york. the status and. the saturday show starts right here, right now. tonight we are following breaking news in the israel