good morning. with just a month until the republican national convention there are three criminal cases still pending against the presumptive republican nominee. there is one supreme court case that could very all of these prosecutions when decided in no fewer than three historic scandals in real time every day

from that very same supreme day court. all of which put in the court at the very forefront of this crucial election. aside from the multiple ways in which they could affect the candidacy and pending criminal prosecutions of the twice impeached and recently convicted ex-president. institution continues to be mired in controversy. concerns about the courts ethical standards have reached new heights in the past few weeks following the recent revelation that justice or rather his wife displayed flags that are associated with far right causes at their residences. be followed for them continued this week after progressive activists of the street were secretly recorded audio conversations she had with the couple well undercover in a supreme court historical society event. this included her complaining about the pride flag and the justice apparently endorsing the suggestion to return our country to a place of godliness. additionally, clarence thomas has close ties republican mega donor and continue to be

scrutinized. the senate judiciary committee revealed justice thomas had gone on even more trips on the private jet. travel they had not previously disclosed. these controversies are pushing the supreme court towards a crisis of legitimacy. all while the court winds down turn 2023 releasing a raft of consequential decisions in case the concerning abortion and guns and government regulation. just yesterday the court strut down a trump era ban on bump stocks that oregon attachment that allows semiautomatic rifles to fire at a rapid rate. that decision could push gun regulation to the forefront of the presidential campaign along with reproductive freedom which has become a defining electoral issue after the conservative super majority that donald trump put in place of the court overturned roe versus wade. do not forget there are still 23 more cases to be decided.

including more high-profile cases involving reproductive rights and trump's claims of presidential immunity. decisions that have the potential to reset and reshape the political landscape with less than five months to go until election day. joining me not to discuss is the democratic congressman from texas. a member of the oversight and accountability committee and also with us is the president and ceo of the brennan center for justice. welcome to both of you. also the author of the book super majority. which is out in paperback just this week. the first question to you. an effort to fix the ethical mess on the court is very likely to be met with

opposition from the republican colleagues. we already saw that happen in the senate this week. had to convince her colleagues across the aisle that the supreme court needs fixing when this is the court that has given them so much of what they want? >> i do not think it's my voice that they will actually pay any attention to. i think it's going to be up to the voters. i think for the first time they are talking about the supreme court as they are considering who it is that are going to vote for as well as during some of those elections. one reason that democrats may actually hold onto the senate is because of the supreme court and the fear that if for some reason republicans are given control of the senate they would actually make the supreme court even worse than it is. >> the congressman raises an interesting point. most are used to thinking about the supreme court as the impartial branch of government. how do you think the public is

going to respond with the court being at the center of politics and that they may actually be the best source of solutions for everything that ails the court right now. >> many times its role in whether it's gone too far has been a big electoral or political issue. rentable polls show the public trust in the court has collapsed to the lowest level ever recorded. more and more people are seeing it's a governmental agency. just to government officials with lifetime appointments and huge power over the rest of our lives. i think it's appropriate for it to be a big issue. they have made reproductive freedom an issue but have not yet really made the supreme court itself an issue, and i hope that's the next step. >> a big pork part of it, so

one big issue for many voters is the question of gun violence. i would like to read you a quote from the bump stock case. writing there is a simple remedy for the treatment of bump stocks and machine guns. congress could amend the law and would have done so already if atf had stated that the earlier interpretation. now that the situation is clear congress can act. is this gas lighting? they know how difficult it is going to be to pass conformer legislation. do you foresee congress acting on this ahead of the election, and if it does are you worried that any action would simply be invalidated by this court on the ground those reform measures violate the second amendment? >> i am sure they will come up with another explanation as to why even if congress did ask why that thought is unconstitutional in some way. i am sure the second amendment has all of those gun

manufacturers will win again. we know this is the most ineffective and unproductive congress in the history of congress. we know that nothing is getting through and we absolutely know that when it comes down to anything that has to do with guns they are beholding to those corporations instead of being beholding to them that actually got into power. i think you are absolutely right at the center of these problems is the supreme court. i think it's not a matter of talk about them separately but about tying in guns to the supreme court. dying in diversity equity and inclusion in as well as all of these issues where we see the decimation of them. >> let's talk about justice

thomas for a moment. you note in your book that there is an interesting dynamic going on between chief justice roberts and justice thomas. saying that roberts holds the gavel but thomas holds the power. can you say more about that dynamic?>> we give these courts the name of the chief justice, but right now clarence thomas and his ideas. the idea of the way he puts it as original as and that only laws that are rooted in history and tradition. in meeting the social views of white men from the 1700s can govern our country today. that has become dominant, and sometimes he can muster a majority to slowdown the direction of the court, but thomas's energy to push it and push the country in

unrecognizable directions is really much more significant in the long run i think for this court. >> roberts is really a traffic cop, but justice thomas is the intellectual conservative movement on the court? >> i think it was considered it to be way it the french for many years, but now the french has become the mainstream on this court. it is not just bad ideas but entangled in this right-wing political financial machine in ways that are also highly unusual. >> that is a really good intervention to think about what has recently happened. just this week the court ruled it can remain on the market for now, but we know that this is just a way station. they won't stop with access to medication abortion being available. what are your thoughts on the court's decision in this case and what you think the next step is going to be as this issue goes back to the states and the public?>> basically

they were looking for a roadmap. anyone who had ever gained a law license knew this was a nothing burger case simply because they literally didn't have standing. the fact a case made it all the way to the supreme court and essentially cannot sue if you have not been harmed in some way. that is essentially what we has was a case for those that had not been harmed. the fact it made it past that level all the way to the supreme court is absolutely insane. that's because we have these right-wingers on every single level of the court that are absolutely committed to doing their random christian and fascism movement that they are all standing there for him then

they basically signal to tell us how we can get a case to you and how you will roll on the merits. basically they decided you're not going to rule on them. this never had standing, so we will be that there. it's important for us to really focus in on the fact that you were really nice. clarence thomas is corrupt. end of story. nobody gets this kind of money and isn't influenced in any way. that is where we stand, and that is why the american public is outraged at this court right now because of the likes of clarence thomas. i believe there is going to be a reckoning on november 5. >> everything they say is spot on. litigants are really weary of the federal courts right now, and that means they're looking for other venues to bring their cases and one of those venues that we have seen a lot of movement towards our state supreme court's, so there has been a renewed focus in the election. this year a total of 82 state seats up for grabs in 33 states. what is at stake in these

judicial elections and how do we get people to pay attention to these races? >> so much is at stake. so much money is pouring into these races. a lot of the undisclosed money. i think it's also a part of a very positive development. as the supreme court has been captured by a faction of a faction people are seeing state courts and constitutions are an independent part to protect freedom and equality. just one example of every state but one in the constitution has a stronger protection for voting rights than the u.s. constitution does. we want them to protect reproductive rights to deal with gerrymandering and all of these different things. >> you make a good point about state constitutions. many are better with equal

rights amendments. so this is a fruitful place to bring cases, but people really have to pay attention. >> they have to pay attention and increasingly they are. think about the wisconsin supreme court race. that is a state that is very evenly divided but the more liberal justice candidate won by 11 points. a referendum on reproductive rights and gerrymandering. the people spoke in the court has changed its actions. >> we are moving to other venues. a lot going on with the courts. thank you so much for joining us this morning. coming up. new nbc report on the democrats plans to continue investigating supreme court justices over possible ethics violations. democratic congresswoman of kansas joins me to explain exactly why the supreme court's ruling is not a sweeping

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the princess of wales just made her first official public appearance since revealing in march she had been diagnosed with cancer. today she attended the royal ceremony which is an annual military parade that celebrates the british monarch's birthday. in this case king charles iii. here you can see her arriving with her children and watching

the ceremony from the balcony. according to the palace the event features 1400 parading soldiers and 400 musicians. 200 horses picking charles appeared in st. james park to take part in the ceremony be joining enough from buckingham palace is our nbc news correspondent. can you take us through what we saw earlier today? and how was the princess appearance received by parade onlookers? >> i can tell you this was an extraordinary day. we saw the royal family just about two hours ago behind me on the balcony of the palace. along with the prince and princess of wales and their children. extraordinary because a lot of people did not even think this moment would be possible today. we know the struggle of both of them.

dealing with cancer and cancer treatments, but yesterday she made the announcement that she would be here. that the crowd was just so excited. honestly to say excited is an understatement. i have to take you back to the beginning of the morning when we saw her carriage rolled down the street where thousands of people were lining the streets to get the glimpse. we have had all seasons today. it was a pouring down rain. we had the wind that was coming in and a little bit of sunshine. that did not stop these people from coming out to try to get a glimpse. when they did see the princess rolling down in the carriage heading to the parade the crowd just erupted, and then she watched her guards from the balcony before making her way back to buckingham palace. this coming just hours earlier when kensington palace released that picture of her, and she

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people did not see coming.>> thank you. still to come. while the supreme court has for now preserved access to the widely used abortion pill make a mistake there will be new challenges in the future be democratic congresswoman davis of kansas joins me after the break to explain the ongoing republican effort to restrict access to the abortion pill. that is up next. next. that's why my go-to is nurtec odt. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. it's the only migraine medication that helps treat & prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. people depend on me. without a migraine, i can be there for them. talk to your doctor about nurtec odt today. detect this: living with hiv, robert learned he can stay undetectable with fewer medicines. that's why he switched to dovato.

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in a much anticipated decision announced on thursday the supreme court maintains broad access to the abortion pill for now i. the supreme court's decision may have been

a pleasant surprise to many, but it's not a sweeping victory for reproductive freedom. and thursday's decision they dismissed the case on the grounds that the antiabortion doctors challenged the fda's regulation had actually not been injured by the fda's actions. but make no mistake just because the court kicked this out on jurisdictional grounds does not mean that it's over. there will be another case with a different set of plaintiffs in an effort to restrict access to medication abortion. the vice president harris sounded the alarm at a white house event thursday take a listen. >> this is not a cause for celebration because the reality is certain things are still not going to change. we are looking at the fact that two thirds of women of reproductive age in america live in a state with a trump abortion ban to this ruling is not going to change that. this is not going to change the fact that trump's allies have a plan that if all else fails to eliminate medication abortion through executive action, so we must remain clear eyed about the threats to reproductive freedom in america.

>> some states are already kicking up plans to continue the assault on medication abortion. when this case was first filed in 2022 months after roe versus wade was overturned republican attorneys general from kansas, missouri and idaho tried to intervene. they weren't allowed to do so by the supreme court that denied the intervening role, but now the states are poised to take another bite at the apple bringing new claims in a new case that would take aim at access to medication abortion again. the attorneys general in kansas and missouri have already said they are going to continue to push forward with legal challenges. joining me now to discuss his democratic congresswoman of kansas. welcome. what are the implication for abortion access nationwide if states like kansas and missouri and idaho continue their fight to been medication abortion?

>> i think you hit the nail on the head when you were saying that the access has been protected for now. seeing some of these extreme politicians and actors pushing these policies is not just scary but dangerous. i think we just have to remain vigilant and keep in mind that we can celebrate the small wins where we have protections for now, but we do have to make sure we are keeping our eye on the ball and not letting people like that who does not speak for the vast majority of kansans, as we saw in august 2022 with the vast majority of them not wanting politicians interfering in our reproductive health care decisions including access to abortion, and i just

think we have to keep pushing back. >> you mentioned the attorney general of kansas. we should also note kansas has been a really crucial state for reproductive rights especially when the electorate has the opportunity to directly register their preference for reproductive freedom. we saw and 2022 they went to the ballot box and overwhelmingly rejected antiabortion ballot measure. my question is if kansans are for reproductive freedom who exactly is the attorney general of are presenting in this fight to been medication abortion? >> i think he demonstrated time and time again he represents himself. his own extreme views and positions. we have seen for too many years when he was secretary of state he was spending time in other states pushing extreme policies and busy trying to get people off of the voter rolls. i do think that in a state like

kansas when you have got the vast majority of people overwhelmingly pushing back saying we do not want politicians interfering in our private healthcare decisions. we do not want politicians being the ones to make those decisions. i quite honestly am so confused every single time i see something he is doing.>> the question of reproductive freedom. i think we are all a little confused. what isn't confusing is this issue does not just concern abortion but other issues of intimate life. on thursday the senate republicans blocked a democratic led bill that would codify broad federal protections for in vitro fertilization. where do democrats go from here to ensure that individuals can choose whatever route is right for them to form their families?

>> at the end of the day one of the things we are facing right now is truly a tax for every single angle of this. we have folks like our attorney general in kansas attacking medication abortion. we have folks in other states that are coming after people's ability to grow their family or to have a family and a tax on ivf. when you think about the impact this is having on individuals this is not just a thought experiment. there are peoples whose families are being threatened and people who are dying right now. we have to make sure that we are informing people about who

are these extreme politicians? he's obviously the one that i am going to be making sure that folks know about in kansas, but every single one of us has some of these folks in our state, and i am fortunate that i know the folks in kansas do not want to see these extreme things happening. the extremism that we are seeing every single corner of each of our state is something that so many people had demonstrated time and time again but we have been pushing back against the stuff. i can tell you i am very vocal about my position on government interference on any of this stuff. the idea that the government should be deciding whether you can or can't have access to ivf is ludicrous. unacceptable. i know i am not the only one out here that is pushing back against those things and fighting for good legislation that will help protect that whether it is access to ivf for making sure that people have access to the full range of reproductive health care services. >> thank you for sharing that perspective. coming up. nbc

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supreme court continued to mount after the revelation that justice clarence thomas failed to disclose three more trips that were paid for by republican mega donor billionaire. the documents released thursday by the senate judiciary committee revealed justice thomas traveled by a private jet on his diamond 2017, 2019, and 2021. he owns a massive real estate company he inherited from his father and agreed to provide records dating back seven years to the senate committee. just two weeks ago the chief justice roberts declined a meeting with the democratic senators to discuss ethics issues at the court after yet another controversy. this time involving justice alito following reporting that two different flags associated with far right wing politics were flown at their residences. joining me now is our nbc news capitol hill correspondent. julie, how is the hill reacting

to these latest revelations? >> as you can imagine, certainly democrats who have been unhappy with the court to say the least not only with clarence thomas but also justice alito in the case of those flags being flown at his homes are questioning whether the supreme court can actually police itself. remember that chief justice roberts of the court did impose an ethics code last year in response to other ethics violations earlier that thomas had put forward in terms of those undisclosed private jets. other trips from mega-donors. republican mega donors. certainly now they are saying this is yet another example of a court not being able to enforce its own code of ethics. they want to make sure it's enforced. the only problem is even though they control the upper chamber they did try this week to pass

a code of ethics bought by republicans because republicans say this is up to the court. they can handle it themselves and are frankly saying this is just a partisan exercise by democrats. >> recently declined an invitation to meet with the senate democrats citing separations of powers and now as you noted the bill to add has failed and is likely to continue to fail at the senate. what is the next move for the democrats if they want to try to rein in what they view as a rogue court? >> that is the big question could you have republicans controlling the lower chamber of the house, so i see they are not going to do anything. this is a question for the senate because they do have a hand in confirming justices to the supreme court. they really play a big role in this process. even democrats with control of the senate though it is a slim majority are unable to really do anything because of course everything requires a 60 vote threshold. i want you to take a listen to the top democrat on the judiciary committee in the

house. >> the highest court in the land has the lowest ethical standards be the only court that does not have a binding ethics code where you can actually go.>> as soon as we have the right congress the democrats in the house would do that right now. we want an inspector general -like homeland security or the department of defense. we want a binding ethics code where you can actually make a complaint that would be hurt that we have the right to impeach supreme court justices. we can impeach them and change the appellate jurisdiction. >> is the thing though. i talked to the senator yesterday who is a senior democrat on the judiciary committee in the senate and said what can you realistically do from now until november

because if trump is in the white house and republicans take control of the senate they really cannot do anything. he said now is the time to grow a spine and play hardball on this.>> the will look for the spine growing. julie, thank you so much. a quick programming note. tomorrow senator cory booker is doing to my colleague to discuss those new ethics concerns surrounding the supreme court. donald trump's return to capitol hill this week all inside with nbc. coming up. new reporting reveals how trump and his allies plan to take over the doj known as project 2025. that is up next. next. ( ♪ ♪ )

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election and not your father's republican party. it is now donald trump's party. if he is elected the consequences will be catastrophic. trump acolytes have an entire plan called project 2025 that outlines priorities for the first 180 days of a new trump administration. it is not hyperbole to say that it would dismantle democracy as we know it. critics are calling it the fascist playbook and should be one of the reasons if not the reason that you vote this november. what is at stake is not just a republican agenda versus democratic agenda as in years past, but democracy itself. you do not need to take anyone's word for it. you can read project 2025 for yourself. the far right blueprints. over 800 pages detailing comprehensively the republican strategy to remake the executive branch concentrating power solely in the hands of the president. but as the far right is well aware, this project cannot proceed without restructuring our governments foundations without eliminating the legal

obstacles and checks on the president like the department of justice, which is why there is a whole chapter about the doj. in his most recent piece the nations highlight how devastating the assault on the department of justice could be. if it's essentially a conservative heist plot from the chapter on the doj it's where they detail how they intend to disable security cameras and floodlights allowing them to operate under the cover of darkness. incapacitating the affirmative justice is exactly that. knocking out the security cameras. trumps problem with the doj is not as he claims that it's a loaded rocker but rather that as currently structured it won't carry out their bidding. goes on to explain project 2025 proposes transforming the civil

rights division of the doj into a tool to fight for white supremacy instead of against it and aims to do this by using the division to prosecute institutions and organizations that promote diversity as violating civil rights equal protection. it is the logical conclusion of the conservative assault on affirmative action. it is telling us exactly how the conservatives plan to take away the rights of women and people of color in the lgbtq community. i begged the american people to believe them. for more on this i am joined by the columnist and justice correspondent for the nation and a fellow and author of the book allow me to retort. a black guys guide to the constitution. we touched about this very briefly in the introduction, but can you please give us the tld are for how the project plans to restructure and repurpose the justice department?

>> yes. project 2025 is a manifesto for how trump's ruling turns to take over the legal structures of our nation, and it's really focused on the doj because the doj hurt trump. the doj stood up to trump. i say that having almost no respect for mustache twirling racist jeff sessions, but when it came time to do the right thing he did the right thing and recused himself. i have almost no respect for bill barr, but when it came time to do the right thing after he lost the election he would not do trump spitting and would not file frivolous lawsuits against the voting machines and what have you, so trump won't have forgotten that. project 2025 manifesto is his plan to remake the doj into an

organization that would do its bidding. the key way to do that. look. the entire section is basically a seinfeld episode. just an airing of grievances that they have. >> can you talk about those grievances? there are many. one that i found particularly troubling is that project 2025 proposes to redirect the department of justices focus from white-collar crimes to violent crimes, and i thought this was really interesting given that many of the crimes of which trump and his others have been charged are often those white-collar crimes, so what do you make of this shift? is is self-serving or what is the subtext? >> they are trying to keep his family out of jail but this stuff because one of the other things. they should focus on violent crime. not fraud and all of the stuff

they are accused of. it also says they have to fire lawyers. the department of justice. they want them to fire the 300 or so lawyers that work for the fbi. why do they do that? because the lawyers who work for the fbi are the ones that tell the fbi what they can and cannot do. roger 2025 does not like that. they do not want to tell them what they can't do. they want them to take their orders directly from a political appointee that is beholden to their attorney general. that is the other thing that i think is most scary about this idea. if you look at who they are talking about for attorney general they are talking about people like stephen miller appeared talking about people like mike davis and people who think the wrong turn for this country happens when they surrender and want to take us

back into that antebellum way of thinking, and that is who next time around trump is going to appoint as his agp able to list racist as opposed to just a general racist. >> was talk about perspective of attorney generals. you mentioned mike lee and stephen miller. both veterans of the trump white house. now the senator from utah. a recent slate article suggests texas attorney general paxton is also in the mix here, and he has a really interesting record. indicted on security fraud charges that were later dropped and agreed to do community service and to pay restitution. he also said that he would bring legal action against emergency physicians if they perform abortions on texas women who are in the throes of miscarriage. how does he figure into this, and what with the doj look like under his leadership?>>

personally i have never been arrested or charged or convicted of a crime, but i have heard that when you are arrested and charged with a crime you kind of like to hang out with other felons. you feel a little more comfortable with your own people when you are convicted to hang out with other cons. that is what he brings to the table. that criminality that trump loves so much. he is one of the people in the mix for the ag. the attorney general. basically if you have been a republican lawyer who has attacked people of color, the lgbtq community, or women trying to access reproductive rights trump wants you to send him and he will take your call. >> so much in these pages we did not even have a chance to talk about the act, but thank

you so much. every american should be looking into this. thank you. coming up. the crisis at the supreme court in the 2024 election. with a month to go before the republican nominating convention a supreme court with a donald trump assembled conservative super majority is taking center stage. this court is thanks to its own series of deeply popular rulings be we will talk about how the courts conduct is playing into this high-stakes election. the first public glimpse of kate middleton since she announced her cancer diagnosis in march. we will have live coverage at buckingham palace for the latest. back for this week's meeting of the book club. on the agenda this week. dragon wings. another hour starts quickly after this break. ter this brea ...by cashbackin. what'd you think i was talking about? -not a game. -not a game. -talking about cashbackin. -cashbackin.

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but could also upend the current presidential race but that is just one of the many examples of how the high court is inadvertently playing an outsized rule out of this year's election. the court's decision and trumps immunity case will determine if, twice impeached recently convicted ex-president might face a second criminal trial before november. although, some say that in taking so long to even issue a decision on this question, the court has already effectively immunized donald trump or criminal liability in those cases. pending decisions on other high- profile cases involving reproductive rights and the prosecution of the january 6 insurrectionists also have the potential to alter the political landscape. just yesterday, the court struck down a trumpeter of and on bump stocks, a gun attachment that allows semiautomatic rifles to fire at a rapid rate. that decision, plus another pending gun case could turn gun control into a more crucial