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of extreme weather. a brutal heat wave cooks millions and wildfires continue to blaze out west. later, one week out from the first presidential debate of this election season, how both sides are preparing for the fight of their political lives. thanks for joining us, it is 10:00 eastern. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. let's get to that breaking news this hour at the supreme court where we expect decisions any moment now with a string of block buster cases still undecided, including presidential immunity, abortion and gun rights, as justices hurdle towards end of their term. joining us from the supreme court, nbc's ken dilanian, walk us through what we're watching for. >> reporter: good morning, ana, obviously presidential immunity is the big one, the question of whether presidents are immune
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from prosecution based on their official acts in office. many legal scholars have speculated that one route the supreme court can take is they decide if there's some level of immunity, perhaps it doesn't apply to the conduct charged against donald trump in this election case brought by jack smith, and that could cause further delays in that case because it would require it to be tossed back to the judge to decide which of these things were presidential acts and which weren't. there's another case that could potentially involve the prosecution of donald trump, has to do with a charge of obstruction of an official proceeding that has been brought against many january 6th defendants, and it's also a part of that washington, d.c. election suppression, trump indictment, and the question whether that has been properly applied to the conduct at issue. and then as you said, there are many other very important decisions we're watching for including a potential gun rights case involving the question of whether someone convicted of domestic violence can be
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prohibited from owning a firearm in light of the supreme court's recent decision that said that all gun regulations must have an analog in history. during the oral arguments it did appear the justices were leaning in favor of prohibiting firearms. we'll have to wait and see on that one. there are two important cases involving social media companies and the potential regulation and content moderation. one is a question of how far the federal government can go in flagging disinformation and other kinds of prohibitive content to social media companies and whether the government violated the first amendment by intimidating social media companies when they did that, and another one involves two states, florida and texas that have passed laws restricting how social media can moderate content, particularly politicians, whether that's constitutional, and there's a big abortion case having to do with idaho's anti abortion law, and whether that is consistent with the federal law requiring
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basic levels of emergency care to anyone because in some cases, one side says that emergency care can involve abortion and that conflicts with the idaho law. so some really big cases we're watching, we're refreshing the web site as we speak. we'll have that for you as we speak. >> keep refreshing, don't move a muscle otherwise. ken dilanian, stay close to us. joining us to continue the discussion, msnbc legal continue, lisa rubin is here. also with us, leah litman, university of michigan assistant professor of law, and former alabama democratic senator and former u.s. attorney doug jones who also helped guide justice jackson through her confirmation process. good to have all of you here. let's look at the big picture here, 23 cases left undecided. that's about a third of the cases this term. what do you make of the backlog? >> first of all, we're at 22 now. we have a decision that's come down. not one of the ones that we were eagerly anticipating, in the
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case having to do with repatriation tax. not exactly a hot button issue for viewers and voters generally but we're down to 22. in terms o. backlog, ana, we have seen in recent years, definitely a growth in the number of cases that wait until the end of june, and at the same time, a diminution in the overall number of cases the court is taking on the merits and those two things have not escaped supreme court observers notice. their workload is generally stronger, and yet, they are leaving until the end, major decisions with big reverberations for our oat -- our society and our politics. that's not something i can explain, except it's one of those things that makes you go hmm, they are deciding fewer and fewer cases, yet we are waiting with baited breath for decisions on guns, abortion, and presidential immunity. >> cases that could have impacted on every american in
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our daily lives as well as the country and our democracy, senator, the immunity case, of course, is the biggest one we're waiting on. the court could have decided not to take this case and just let the appellate court's decision stand which rejected trump's immunity argument. is this already a victory for trump on that case, given how long it is delaying his criminal trials? >> well, certainly i think that, you know, any criminal defendant usually wants to delay their trials. and donald trump is certainly no exception to that. in his case, it involves even more. when you get a delay, you get toward the election and the odds of a case going to trial, the closer we get to an election is slim to none. i think it remains to be seen what kind of victory this will be. i tend to agree this is likely to go back to the district court for findings. i have never been one to believe this is black and white, yes or
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no, immunity or not. the presidency is more complicated than that. personally i expect it to go back to the district court. >> while we wait for that decision on presidential immunity, former attorney general eric holder was on msnbc yesterday, and had this to say. >> anything less than a decision by the supreme court that says a president should be held to the laws just like any other american citizen, anything other than that is absurd. the notion, for instance, well, if the president violated a criminal law but was doing so in his official capacity, there may be some basis to say that's okay. we need to step back and think about that, you know, wait a minute, a president can violate the american criminal law if he or she is doing something in their official capacity. that is an absurd and dangerous conclusion. >> leah, what is your reaction to that? >> i think it's important to keep in mind what precise issue in this case is. it doesn't have to be whether presidents are necessarily
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immune from all criminal prosecutions whatsoever, it's instead whether the facts alleged in special counsel jack smith's indictment related to the events of january 6th are something that presidents are entitled to immunity from, and there the answer as to be a resounding no. whatever the scope of presidential immunity is, it just can't extend to a month's long effort to contest the results of a valid election and remain in office when you lost the election. so really, the supreme court has a very small task before it in this case. just answering whether this specific indictment alleges facts to which a president is possibly entitled to immunity, and the answer is clearly no. which makes it so ridiculous that the court is taking as long as it is to resolve this case. >> senator, it has been nearly two years now to the day since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade, and since then, we have seen public trust of the court just crumble. according to the latest polls it
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has been hovering around 40%, near record lows, the lowest is 38%. how could that lack of trust be a factor as we're awaiting controversial cases dealing with immunity, abortion, gun rights and more? >> well, i think the lack of trust, you know, may affect individual justices but, remember, you know, ana, this is not just about the court's decisions, the lack of trust. it's also about what you're seeing with justice alito and flags. it's about what you're seeing with justice thomas, and all of the trips, and whether or not he is, you know, essentially being purchased for his decisions. that, i think, is contributing as much as anything, but when it's a one-two punch, when you get the decisions overturning decades of precedent, with what appear to be personal issues involving the court, it's a major problem. i think that will weigh on certain justices more than
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others. obviously we're seeing it's not affecting some justices, i think the others have got to think about how the court is being perceived by the american public right now, and in terms of timing and the delay, i agree, it's hard to believe why the delays are coming to the end of the term, but at the same time, this is such a fractured court right now, i think it's just taken longer to try to figure out what this is going to entail when you write these decisions, and it's just taken a long time. i also think they just like to get these and get out of town. >> well, we usually see all of the decisions before the end of june, so that literally leaves this day, tomorrow, and then next week, right. leah, looking at the immunity case, i recall during arguments, as we were bringing it to our viewers' lives, the audio of those, justice kavanagh, they were writing a rule for the
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ages. that's how consequential this case as they all are, when it comes to a presidency. if the justices do decide to side with trump in this immunity case, how would that affect a potential trump second term. >> i think it would result in a trump unleashed if the justices were to side with donald trump in the immunity case. this would be effectively saying. look, of course, you can overturn the results and try to overturn the results of a valid election. try to throw out lawfully cast votes. you would face no consequences to do so. they allowed trump to get back on the ballot of the colorado disqualification case, notwithstanding the efforts. if they side with him in the immunity case, there would be no criminal, legal accountability and political accountability whatsoever. that's an extremely dangerous prospect and it would be emboldening donald trump or other future presidents to break the law in order to further their own political ends at the
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expense of american democracy. i think it's also worth pointing out, even though justice kavanagh suggested he wanted to write an opinion for the ages and several other justices gestured in that direction as well in the immunity case. in the tax case that justice kavanagh said, we don't have to decide congress's power to tax. all we have to say in this case is this precise tax is constitutional. they could do something very similar in the immunity case, saying we don't have to decide the precise scope of immunity. all we need to do is say that what is alleged in this indictment does not fall within the bounds of presidential immunity. >> there's this other case we're dealing with that applies to january 6th and a defendant, the fisher versus u.s. case, and this defendant is trying to throw out the obstruction of an official proceeding charge. and, lisa, that's a charge trump faces, right, so will that
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decision also have implications on trump's legal fate, potentially? >> yes, and no. because the argument that the defendant is making in that case is that the meaning of the statute has to be interpreted in light of some of the clauses that come before it that have to do with, essentially, destroying paper work and impeding or obstructing, it has to do with, for example, destroying records or falsifying records. now, if you look at the allegations in the indictment against former president trump, when we think about things like the fake elector scheme, that's exactly what's going on there. so you could see a situation in which the defendant who has brought that fisher case gets relief for himself and perhaps for many other january 6th defendants, in ways that aren't necessarily applicable to the allegations against former president trump, as they pertain to that particular charge. >> senator, you mentioned how the supreme court has just been
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dogged by these questions about ethics from justice clarence thomas, and the luxury trips he took that he paid for, flown at justice alito's properties, how do you think those impact this institution and the crisis of confidence and why? why are we in this space right now? >> you know, it's hard to answer the latter question. i do think it's having an impact on the supreme court and that's really unfortunate. i think that in the past, you know, regardless of the decisions that the court is making, the justices were always seen as acting honorably, and in this particular case or i say in this case, in a number of the cases before the court, that is called into question because the personal conduct of justices that have become public. that is an individual justice issue. i don't think you're going to see these kind of issues come up
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with all of the justices. you haven't seen this. and so i think that the other justices are going to try very hard to make sure that they maintain what they should as an independent judiciary, but it gets clouded when the issues with just a couple of justices overshadow, and i think that is an individual basis, and i think it's going to, quite frankly, i don't see anything happening at the court that would require recusals or anything else. there's going to be a change in the court mentality and the court personnel and order to really start looking at restoring the integrity of the court. >> we heard president biden recently talk about how he believes the next president will ultimately be nominating for confirmation to more supreme court justices, that that's the
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kind of turnover expected, and the next term we'll see. in the meantime, we wait on this year's term and the decisions that have consequential impacts. thank you, lisa rubin, leah litman, and doug jones. stay close, we will keep our eyes and ears trained on the supreme court, we'll bring the decisions as we get them. also ahead, going head to head, how trump and biden are preparing for their debate showdown next week. plus, thou shall not put the ten commandments in schools. there's a growing legal battle over one state's effort to do the opposite. but first, wildfires, extreme heat and a tropical storm. the extreme weather scorching and sinking parts of this country. we're back in 90 seconds. it may be time to see the bigger picture. heart failure and seemingly unrelated symptoms, like carpal tunnel syndrome, shortness of breath, and irregular heartbeat
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nbc's antonia hylton, and meteorologist michelle grossman are following this crazy heat. first, let's go to nbc's sam brock, in alberto's path in freeport, texas, a little break in some of the worst conditions, sam, what's the storm looking like from the ground? >> good morning. it's blustery, as you can see. the rain has subsided for now. a good thing for residents. we are on the west end of surf side beach. you can see how water logged everything is. you would be hard pressed to go in any direction. elevated from the ground, but still seeing all of this water, still a day later, pooling around their properties. i'm watching as residents are trekking back and forth, looking after one another. one woman was carrying groceries, got a ride in a pickup to go down to her neighbor. seeing lots of good samaritans. the fire department was prepared to rescue if they had to.
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the reality is they didn't need to. the water never got that high where there was a life threatening situation. that's good news. the members of this fire department told me even this morning, there were actually a couple inches of water going up toward their department here. now they're just kind of hanging out and taking in the sun as things are drying out. the problem right now is that you're getting offshore winds that are pulling out the high tide. you're getting really lots of water trapped on the ground with nowhere to go. once the tide recedes and the winds die down, you would expect this flooding to die down. as far as where we rank in this hurricane season, i'll leave you with this, the forecast from noaa, a record breaking season with 17 to 25 storms, and potentially 8 to 13 hurricanes. this is just a tropical storm and the very start of what might be a chaotic next couple of months, back to you, ana. >> thank you so much, sam brock. let's head to antonia with more
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on the extreme heat. how are people coping with the heat advisories in new york? >> reporter: people are hanging out in the shade, wearing hats, carrying sun block, and lots and lots of water in new york. we are among the $65 million americans under heat advisories and extreme weather warnings. what we're seeing are families in some of the parks in splash pads. some people are keeping their kids home from school in some cases. temperatures are 10 to 20 degrees above average in the northeast, new england, all the way to the great lakes. what we're hearing from officials here is they're taking a number of actions from the governor's office, kathy hochul, taking the step to make sure the national guard is activated in case they need to help with heat emergencies, local schools, in some cases, letting kids out around lunchtime to head home and relax with families in air-conditioning. for people who might not have air-conditioning at home, the real message is to make sure
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that you have access to somewhere safe in the new york area. that can mean free libraries, going into cafes, malls and museums, so you have a place to cool off and you have access to fountains and cold water. it can be a silent killer that affects the very young, school aged kids, the elderly, and people with all kinds of medical conditions. they want people to take those extra steps. even if you're going to, some people behind me are getting exercise in today, you need to have sort of an extra level of alertness here to make sure that you are taking care of yourself and your friends and making sure they don't have usual symptoms of getting the heat sickness, and that's really the concern when you're talking about this. so make sure that you have access to a cool place and to water, and we should be able to make it through this heat dome. >> all good information. thank you so much for that report. antonia hylton. and we just got notified that the president has been briefed on alberto, the wildfires, this
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extreme heat. is there any relief in sight in. >> there is so much going on, and i wish i will better news. we are looking at days and days of this continuing into early next week and the outlook at least for the eastern portion of the nation, we're going to have an above average june as well. still under heat alerts from the great lakes, the ohio valley to the northeast into new england. heat advisories in the orange. watch is in the lighter, red color and the heat warning, bangor, maine, you're looking at that. we had a heat index of 106 yesterday. this is what it looks like in terms of the air temperatures mainly in the 90s. well above normal for this time of year. remember, doesn't start until 4:20 this afternoon. looking at 92 in burlington. it will feel like 99 there. feeling like 103 in bangor, and 94 in new york city. unfortunately we're not getting that relief at night. that's when our body slows down and recovering.
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we're not getting that. hot air once again tomorrow, the heat dome tacked in place on friday. temperatures in the 90s. st. louis, 97. feeling like 99 there. 96 in pittsburgh. 95 in new york city tomorrow. then as we go throughout the weekend, unfortunately no more relief. no relief into the weekend, even by next monday, 96 in st. louis. the triple digits on saturday. philadelphia, nearly triple digits on saturday and sunday. this is a relief. 91 degrees. not much relief as we go towards monday. that's the heat. here's the latest on alberto. it made landfall which is good news. it's quickly weakening, much better conditions in southern texas through the later part of today. back to you. >> 106 degrees was the heat index in bangor, maine, the highest for that city. up next, a check in on the supreme court, the big cases we are still waiting for, plus the high stakes debate show down
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that has a lot of major decisions ahead of it. we didn't get any big decisions that we are going to cover today, but we have 19 pending cases before the supreme court, and we care about a number of them including of course the big one, the trump immunity. the former president is claiming he has absolute immunity from criminal prosecution. special counsel jack smith is arguing the opposite saying at one point, he would be a king if that was allowed. we're looking at a major abortion case, the federal government, the biden administration challenging idaho's near total ban of abortion saying it violates a federal law dealing with emergency medical care. we're also waiting for a couple of gun cases, including one dealing with whether or not someone is violating federal domestic violence laws and under restraining orders, whether they can have gun rights taken away. we have a lot to get to this term, and it's really going to be something we're going to keep on watching. i'm wondering whether or not we're going to have a day with multiple big cases and talking about them at the same time.
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i want to know, there's a big antiabortion rally happening right now. it tells you there's a lot of fervor and excitement, and also a lot of passion still growing as the supreme court has a number of decisions to make. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you for the update. one week from today, president biden and former president trump will spar in a historic debate, the first time ever two candidates who have held the oval office will face off in a presidential debate. tonight, president biden will head to camp david where he'll begin debate prep with his team of close advisers. as for trump, his team suggests he will forego formal debate practice. one senior adviser telling nbc news he's quote always prepared to present to americans his record of success. we have gary grumbach, and former spokesperson for george w. bush, pete seek. let's start with the reporting,
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gary, what can you tell us about president biden's approach to debate prep? >> reporter: it has been 1,300 days since these two men were on a debate stage together, but it's like no time passed at all. we expect president biden to prepare and prepare quite a bit. it's going to involve a lengthy stay at camp david, the mountainside retreat for presidents in maryland, and it's going to involve a lot of conversations between him and top advisers. also going to involve a full 90-minute mock debates between him, somebody we don't know yet who's playing donald trump, and they're going to go at it. two things they are going to focus on during this debate prep. first it's going to involve the policy aspect of these things, are you better off now than four years ago, and what do you expect to happen over the next four years. what do you want to happen over the next four years as it relates to the economy and reproductive rights. that's the policy aspect of things. there's always going to be the personal attacks aspect of things. if there's one thing we know
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about former president donald trump, he enjoys a jab or two, attack or two against his opponents. we expect that to be personal as well, and we expect president biden to really accept those attacks and to push back a little bit as well, and not just take them in as attacks. so that's part of the preparation part of things. he's going to have help from his friends as well. we expect a lengthy list of white house senior advisers and campaign officials to travel with him, including long time advisers, former chief of staff ron klain, anita dunn and others to be there helping him out along the way. >> gary, historically, the first didn't for an incumbent can be dicey. the biden team thinks they can avoid that fate? >> reporter: they do. it becomes dicey because you're used to a, hello, mr. president, and sir, but when you get on a debate stage, it's donald trump versus joe biden, and it is going to get a little bit
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personal and that's where president biden hopes to push back a little bit and attack a little bit towards former president trump as well. because we do know former president trump does have the ability to get under people's skins, but the biden administration hopes that president biden will be able to push back on that. >> gary grumbach, thank you so much. of course these two men debated each other four years ago now. how do you prepare for a debate against trump, somebody who disregards basic facts? >> exactly. and i think that biden knows that, so that's rule number one, know your opponent, right, and one thing about donald trump, he's, if anything, consistent. so we know he's going to go down and dirty. we know he's going to be wild and probably unhinged and constantly interrupting president biden. so president biden knows that. trump is going to be trump. i think he's preparing to debate him on those terms. i think he's going to let trump do what he does, because it's a turn off for a lot of voters, right. particularly the reasonable
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voters, the ones joe biden is seeking to persuade. those people do not like a wild, nasty person. i think he's going to give trump rope to hang himself a bit too. >> trump seems to be saying the campaign trail is his debate prep. one senior adviser saying he talks with voters at town halls, frequently takes questions from the press. another adviser says trump takes on numerous interviews every week, and delivers lengthily rallies while standing, demonstrating elite stamina. those are their words, pete. is that enough? what do you make of that approach? >> there's no debate prep like actual debate prep. i have prepped candidates in the past, never a presidential candidate, and you can tell the difference when they're on stage whether or not they went through the motions of debate preparation. the way i would always approach it is i would come at them like a spider monkey, i wanted them to be completely uncomfortable
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in that moment so they were ready for anything that came their way. the difference between donald trump and joe biden is trump can take the incoming. he just lets it roll off his sleeves. he's teflon don as we have said in the past. joe biden needs to get used to the attacks that will come at him, particularly as it relates to his son. he might show a little bit of temper, but if he shows too much, i don't think that's going to sell with the american people. if trump was smart, he would still do it, he would still stand behind the podium for 90 minutes and make sure he's as comfortable as he could be. >> trump is enormously sensitive. he is definitely someone that is easily offended, particularly if you're making fun of him. i think that's also going to be a strategy of president biden in debate prep.
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trump does not have thick skin. he has a big ego and thin skin. he may not prepare in the traditional way. he's going to prepare. i saw him rehearsing lines for the apprentice, you can speak off the cuff. he sat there and he prepared lines. he would stop. we heard him do it. he would stop the actual show taping if he wanted to do something over. so he was very much prepared. i think his strategy is to lower expectations by saying he's not going to prepare. he absolutely will. he does before every ramble. that's because he's lost some steps. but he practices his name calling, and that's who trump is. >> we just learned that the independent candidate, robert f. kennedy jr. did not make this
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first debate, but the requirements, is this a particular advantage for either biden or trump? does it change either of their approaches? >> i think it's an advantage for the american people. i personally don't think that robert f. kennedy jr. should be on a debate stage. right thousand, he only qualifies for 89 electoral college votes, more than i qualified for, which is 0. so there's no chance he's going to be the next president of the united states. at best, he's a side show. at worst he's a spoiler. why would we want him on the stage. joe biden or donald trump for better or worse is going to be the next american president, and the american people deserve to hear from those two candidates and only those two candidates. >> thank you both so much for that conversation. look forward to having more conversations between now and the election. up next here on "ana cabrera reports," a war of words between the white house and israel over weapons. how u.s. officials are responding to the heightened
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welcome back, a hearing on treason charges for russian-american ballerina, ke senia. she faces up to 12 years in prison for allegedly raising funds for the ukrainian army. the news comes alongside russian president vladimir putin's recent visit to north korea, and that trip culminating with a pact signed by putin and north korean leader kim jong un. that agreement includes a mutual defense commitment if either country is attacked. meantime, new fallout from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu accusations that the u.s. is withholding weapons from israel. netanyahu making those claims in
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this video this week. the biden administration denied even knowing what netanyahu was talking about, and now they have postponed a key meeting with the israelis. let's go to nbc news international correspondent matt bradley in jerusalem. what more can you tell us about this back and forth between netanyahu and the white house? >> reporter: that's right, ana. another sign of the fissure between the white house, the biden administration, and benjamin netanyahu. "axios" had reported that the white house was, quote, enraged by that video that netanyahu put out where he was scolding the administration for not delivering some of those weapons on time. a new war of words breaking out between washington and jerusalem after prime minister benjamin netanyahu accused the u.s. of not sending promised weapons to israel. >> it's inconceivable that in the past few months the administration has been withholding weapons and ammunitions to israel. israel, america's closest ally
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fighting for its life. during world war ii, churchill told the united states, give us the tools, we'll do the job, and i say give us the tools and we'll finish the job a lot faster. >> the white house's response also coming quick and sharp. >> let me just start off by saying that we generally do not know what he's talking about. we just don't. >> there had already been tension over a previously delayed shipment of bombs to israel over u.s. concerns that might be used to kill civilians in rafah. >> as you know, continuing to review one shipment, but everything else is moving as it normally would move. >> reporter: the white house denied reports that it had canceled a meeting with israeli officials but u.s. officials said they were reluctant to reward netanyahu with a meeting and it had been postponed. more pressure for netanyahu this morning after the main idf spokesperson seemed to contradict the prime minister's goal of defeating hamas, saying overnight, anyone who thinks we can eliminate hamas is wrong,
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adding it can be destroyed without new leadership billion installed in gaza is throwing sand in the eyes of the public. the government saying this morning the idf is committed to destroying hamas. we're seeing more attacks in the red sea. the british military is reporting that a greek-owned ship attacked by yemen's houthi rebels a couple of days ago had sunk. this comes month into an effort to try to make the region safer for international shipping. >> a lot going on. so many developments. thank you for getting to all of it for us. matt bradley in jerusalem. up next, should the ten commandments being displayed in every public school classroom, one push that sparked a new legal battle over it. arked a ne legal battle over it that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you.
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welcome back, voter disinformation has been a pressing issue in recent election cycles, so it might be surprising to learn that the biden administration has no firm plans to call out domestic disinformation in this campaign. nbc news has learned the government will alert the public when malicious false information comes from foreign actors but fbi and homeland security officials worry they will be accused of politicalization if they weigh in on home grown disinformation. and this seems to be a pivot from the white house's tactics on covid in 2020 misinformation
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which led to the administration being sued over its communications with social media companies and that issue is still now in the hands of the supreme court. this morning, a san francisco jury is deliberating in the state case against david depape who was convicted on federal charges last fall for attacking nancy pelosi's husband paul with a hammer in their home back in 2022. in this case, depape is charged with false imprisonment, residential burglary, threatening the family member of a public official, along with aggravated kidnapping and attempting to sway a witness. nbc's david noriega is following the case for weighing? >> reporter: yeah, ana, good morning. the evidence in this case is pretty straightforward and pretty plentiful. first of all, that the moment that depape actually attacked paul pelosi, it was captured on police body cam footage. depape, once he was arrested made statements to police admitting to the crime and laying out what his intentions were. he was looking for nancy pelosi who was not home at the time,
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his intention was to physically restrain her and film a video of her confessing to what he believed were various criminal conspiracies. the prosecution also showed the jury photos of the immediate aftermath of the attack, photos of the scar that paul pelosi sustained after the surgery that he had to receive as a result of the attack, and neither side disputes the basic facts of this case, including depape himself. now, the defense is arguing that some of the charges here don't apply. this is pretty in the weeds legal discussion, it has to do with, for example, the aggravated kidnapping charge, whether the state presented enough evidence to support that specific claim. however, the defense did not call a single witness in this state trial. depape also did not testify, that's distinct from the federal trial in which depape has already been sentenced to 30 years in federal prison in which he testified and various witnesses testified for the
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defense. the defense in the state case is also arguing that depape was not mentally well when this attack took place, that he had been basically consumed by various online right wing conspiracies, that he was not correctly perceiving reality. in the state case, depape faces a potential maximum sentence of life in prison. >> david noriega, thank you for bringing us that reporting. up next on "ana cabrera reports," a collision course between the church, the court and the constitution as louisiana becomes the first state to require that the ten commandments be displayed in every public school. in every public school. [introspective music] recipes. recipes that are more than their ingredients. ♪ [smoke alarm] recipes written by hand and lost to time... can now be analyzed and restored using the power of dell ai. preserving memories
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we're back with developments from space. the crew of boeing starliner is having an unexpectedly longer stay on board the international space station. nasa wants more time to look at some thruster issues and helium leaks on that spacecraft. so this means astronaut sunny williams and butch wilmore will be in orbit for a few more weeks. their return is now set for no earlier than june 26th. we'll keep you posted. in louisiana today, there is growing uproar over a new state law that adds two stone tablets to next year's classroom supply list. the new louisiana law requires the ten commandments to be visibly displayed in all public school classrooms by 2025, making louisiana the only state
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to pass a ten commandments law which critics say violates separation of church and state. nbc's marissa parra is joining us with more on this. this is sure to face legal challenges. what are we expecting? >> hey, ana, we are already seeing the promise of exactly that. but i do want to run through some of those requirements, you mentioned one of them just now. so, according to this legislation which was just signed by the louisiana governor yesterday, this requires now on a poster size, some sort of poster size display large easily readable font and it requires this to be displayed in every classroom that is state publicly funded within the state of louisiana, whether it is kindergarten classroom, all the way through university classrooms. and opponents, of course, are bringing up the question of a wait a second, what about the separation of church and state? so this is a statement that we're hearing from the national education association, the president of the teachers union speaking out saying, quote, politicians have no business
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imposing their preferred religious doctrine on students and families in public schools. not only is this a violation of the constitution, but it ignores the real life pressure and coercion that students will feel when school officialants stage public religion observances in school, class or at school events. saying over the weekend that this is about moral code and obviously this was days before he did sign this, he said, quote, i can't wait to be sued. he and others who have supported this are arguing that this isn't merely religious, this is historical. the attorney general saying yesterday that moses appears eight times in carvings, and said, i look forward to defending the law. so clearly they and others who were either behind this or support this knew that there would be some sort of lawsuit coming their way and that is exactly what certain groups like the aclu have promised to do exactly that, ana. i will point out that there was
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a similar effort out of kentucky in 1980 that was struck down by the supreme court. so it will be very interesting to see how all of this plays out over the coming weeks, months and potentially even longer. >> marissa parra, thank you for bringing us that report. that does it for us this hour. i'll see you back here at 1:00 p.m. eastern in for chris jansing. can't get rid of me. so, don't forget, you can also check out our show online, around the clock, on youtube and other platforms. for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. thank you so much for joining us. jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. and we begin with extreme weather from coast to coast as the first tropical storm of hurricane season has arrived.
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