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"chris jansing reports" follows with ana cabrera right now. ♪♪ hello on this busy friday. i'm ana cabrera in for chris jansing, and it appears to be down to two. a senator from ohio and the governor of north dakota emerging as the front runners as donald trump inches closer to making one of the most consequential choices of his campaign, picking a running mate. but could there still be another name on the list? plus, turning to trump's legal woes, the former president may be the one charged with mishandling secret documents, but in a hearing in florida today, special counsel jack smith appears to be the one with the most to lose. in an unusual decision, the judge is hearing arguments about whether jack smith should have been appointed in the first places and whether he has the authority to prosecute trump going forward. and rain bringing some relief to central new mexico where massive wildfires have
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destroyed hundreds of homes, forced thousands to flee, and left at least two people dead. but now residents may be facing a new threat, not from fire but from floods. let's start with the breaking news. nbc news learning that the race to be donald trump's running mate has narrowed to two men, although a third is still technically in the mix. also with us matthew dowd, the former chief strategist for the bush cheney campaign and senior msnbc political analyst, and doug hie, former rnc communications director and republican strategist. dasha, talk to us about what you're learning how this field was narrowed and who we are talking about. >> reporter: so ana, the two that are emering as the top contenders right now are north dakota governor doug burgum, and ohio senator jd vance.
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you mentioned that third option, marco rubio, the florida senator has consistently been on the list but there are some challenges for him, particularly his residency. boat trump and rubio are residents of florida, and there's a constitutional rule that doesn't allow for delegates to vote for a president and vice president from the same state. that would take some leg work to fix. that doesn't mean he's out of the race, and he does have some allies in the trump campaign. suzie wiles is a long-time florida operative who has a relationship with him. she is the campaign manager for the trump campaign, and a lot of folks in that orbit are florida people. he's got some allies but that is a hangup for him. jd vance has a massive ally in donald trump jr. he has promoted his candidacy, a lot of the maga wing of the party is really gung-ho on vance but burgum has impressed former president trump with his central casting looks. he has money, he is a businessman that has become a politician, something that trump
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is impressed with. there's also debate, ana, about the timing of this announcement. there is talk about announcing it before the sentencing, though some are concerned that then the sentencing on july 11th would step on a new cycle from the vp announcement. there's also talk of announcing shortly after and trying to sort of step over the news cycle of the sentencing with the vp announcement and turn the media in that direction. the former president has said he would like to announce at the convention. all of those options are on the table and being actively debated right now. the central tension that sources are telling us on the campaign that trump is feeling himself as well is they want somebody that's nonthreatening, but they also want somebody who could potentially continue the america first carry the trump mantle into the next generation, and those are the different values,
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the different benefits and cons that the campaign and trump himself are weighing right now, ana. >> henry, dig deeper, if you will, for us in terms of the thinking in trump camp, but specifically more so trump himself about these two men, what he likes about them, why they stand out above those others who have been discussed. >> yeah, the tension that dasha just mentioned really gets at the pros and cons for burgum and vance. doug burgum didn't have an entirely successful campaign, didn't gain a lot of traction. he did something that helped his chances, he endorsed donald trump ahead of the iowa caucuses. became one of his strident and loyal allies on the trail throughout the year, and they've been traveling together to rallies, to fundraisers. burgum went to the trial in new york. he's been very visible. there's been a rapport that's
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developed between the two of them. and because burgum is 67 years old and wasn't quite successful as a presidential candidate, he's seen in that nonthreatening bucket. somebody who's not going to be plotting a presidential campaign. the converse of that is somebody like jd vance. he's 39 years old. he's only been in the senate for two years. he also has a very strong relationship with trump and close trump allies like donald trump jr. he is somebody who would represent the future of the maga movement, which is a box that trump might like to check. the question is is this somebody that's going to perhaps outshine trump on the campaign trail, somebody that's going to be looking toward the future early on in a trump administration. so that's why those two have their pros and their cons. they both check different boxes. there is some overlap between them. that's why if they cancel each other out, you can see a guy like rubio staying in the mix. he is somebody that could be more of a safe pick, somebody
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that appeals to traditional republicans. remember, he was on the short list in 2012, which seems like eons ago, and was a favorite among those establishment republicans like mitt romney who was the presidential nominee that year. >> do we know why some of the others who have been thrown out there like tim scott or elise stefanik maybe didn't make the cut. >> we've not received reporting so much to that effect. to be clear, this is not final until donald trump says the words this person is my running mate, and it's possible that over the next couple of weeks we'll see people, you know, move in and out of contention again. steve bannon, who spoke with us for the story did mention stefanik as somebody that's working really hard out there among the top tier of potential vp contenders. it's possible somebody will find their way back in there. these three have been sort of the top of the list now for a couple of weeks, and we've heard this week that it's now coalescing around a top two with rubio still a wild card. >> doug, what's your reaction to
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these three top choices right now? again, they are doug burgum, marco rubio is more the third as well as jd vance. does it make sense to pick one over the other? >> i agree with everything that henry and dasha said. i have a grain of salt the size of 30 rock. i remember in february having dinner with a friend, who's very plugged in trump world who said i guarantee you it's going to be ben carson because donald trump is so obsessed with winning more of the black male vote that it is going to be ben carson. well, ben carson is not in this conversation is he? if we're talking a year ago, we're saying sarah huckabee sanders, that's the pick for donald trump. the grain of salt should be massive heres. there are pros and cons with all of these people. donald trump is somebody who views himself as the big decider. he's not made a decision yet. that's the ultimately test here is what does donald think up to the minute before he makes that announcement. >> who do you think would be most beneficial to him to pick? >> i think it comes to a question of what does the trump
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campaign want to do? do you want to try and maximize the turnout that you'll get from african american males where joe biden is suffering a little bit? then you look for a tim scott, maybe a byron donald, maybe ben carson. do you want to appeal with suburban women? republicans have had a problem with that. maybe an elise stefanik or sarah huckabee sanders makes sense. what does donald trump want? what have we learned about everything about donald trump in these seven years since he's come down that escalator? it is always about what does donald want. >> as we were just discussing, one of the interviewed for this piece is steve bannon. he's quoted as saying unlike 2016, republicans have a deep bench of talent. looks like a cabinet being formed. there will be lots of consolation prizes for these killers. do you buy that? do you think we'll see some of these people in a trump administration if it happens? >> well, yeah, i think we'll see a lot of them. i think the number one quality going to something doug said is
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not for a political calculation that i think donald trump is making, but is an obsequious calculation. who going to go along with everything he does and not stand in his way at all. i think that was one of his regrets about mike pence. mike pence didn't go along with his steal the electoral college and overthrow the democracy in the midst of what happened after 2020. i agree with doug that we should all put a huge, huge wheel barrel load of salt on this. donald trump is going to change his mind numerous times. if i were donald trump, i'd be looking at someone like elise stefanik. she provides an avenue to women. she's very well spoken in the course of this, and three, she's a new generation politician. the problem with people like jd vance is joe biden can take all the words that jd vance said about donald trump now if he picks him as his vp and play
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them back to donald trump because jd vance in 2016 said numerous negative things about donald trump including i would never vote for donald trump is what jd vance said. and so that, i think, becomes, you know, jd vance may be on the list. i think jd vance becomes problematic because you can just take his words. and joe biden says i don't have to tell you what i think of him. let me play what your vp candidate thinks about him. >> ana, i agree with that. the last time i sat down with congresswoman stefanik was in the spring of 2016 and what she said to me is we've got to stop donald trump. so all of these people that we've mentioned -- >> joe biden or donald trump? >> donald trump. wait a minute, i thought he was a trump fan. >> all of them on this list have said things about donald trump, that they thought he was unprepared, ill-suited, crazy, whatever it may be. they all have that record. j d vance says it really loudly. >> to that point, henry, doug burgum also has a record of
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saying he wouldn't even do business with donald trump. that wasn't that long ago, and yet we know how important loyalty is to trump, so how does doug burgum breakthrough that potential barrier? >> so, for burgum, there's a little bit of a recency bias for trump. he's had the chance to make his case in person more than some of the others on the list, but also burgum has been on a cleanup tour himself. he's been doing a lo of conservative and right wing media, and he's been asked this very question about these remarks that he made on "meet the press" a year ago saying he would not do business with donald trump. he's gotten to know trump better since january, with burgum doing a lot more events with donald trump doing, a lot more events on donald trump's behalf and having the chance to make that case directly to him.
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and trump's had the chance to make the case directly to burgum. they've been able to develop that relationship. it's definitely something burgum has identified as a possible vulnerability. he's tried to clean it up. in comparison to guys like vance and stefanik, he's not been as -- to doug's point as loud about his criticism to trump. he ran a campaign that was definitely not trump like, but he was never one of the ones that was like throwing bombs in trump's direction, and that might help him in the end. >> matt, i want to read another part of the article and i quote, there's rubio, an attractive and perhaps more traditional option because of his potential appeal to hispanic voters, suburban women, and the older guard republicans who ruled the party when he was a finalist to be mitt romney's running mate 12 years ago. but rubio never showed up at court for trump's criminal trial, unlike burgum and vance. what do you make of that? is this a sign that the trump trial is going to be a crucial part of this race?
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>> well, with donald trump all politics is personal, every single avenue, the way he views the lens through which he sees people is all will they, you know, bend the knee to him as much as humanly possible, and he's -- he's willing to forgive some things they said as long as they're down on both knees praising him in the course of this, and so i mean, i think that's what's in donald trump's calculation in the course of this. my guess is there's probably something about -- because of all the things -- we talked about what elise stefanik said, and we've talked about what others have said. marco rubio ran against donald trump in 2016 and has three or four months of things that he said about donald trump. my guess is donald trump hasn't forgotten all that. >> i'd also say be careful, marco, because if he makes steps to change his residency, which could affect his senate tenureship, donald trump likes to change his mind. if marco goes too far down that
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plank, has the rug pulled out from under him, he's in no man's land. >> i can't help but just wonder also, doug, about how each of these three people we're talking about that are at the top of the list right now, whether it's doug burgum, jd vance or marco rubio, how they would act as vice president, if they would do exactly what trump wants or if they would hold democracy, the constitution, above all? >> donald trump, doesn't give points. he only takes them away one at a time. so mike pence loyal soldier until january 6th. he made one mistake in trump world, and now he's been banished east of eden and all of that. they're very mindful of that. their political futures are based on being loyal to their president. donald trump isn't any president. >> thank you all very much. dasha burns, henry gomez, doug eheye, matthew dowd, great reporting, guys. in 90 seconds, a hearing today in florida about former president trump's classiied
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let's be more than our allergies. zeize the day with zyrtec. s it's the latest legal chapter in donald trump's classified documents case unfolding in florida where judge aileen cannon is holding an unusual day-long hearing to decide whether the special counsel should have been able to bring this case at all. keep in mind, this is still a pretrial hearing.
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the trial itself hasn't even been scheduled yet. as nbc news reports instead of steering the case as quickly as possible to a jury, judge cannon has burned day after day of court time listening to lawyers haggle over defense motions that make what experts say are long-shot arguments to dismiss charges to exclude evidence or otherwise attack the prosecution. that includes today's hearing about whether jack smith was legally appointed as special counsel, an argument the special counsel's team says was resolved all the way back in the 1970s. i want to bring in nbc's ken dilanian outside that courthouse in fort pierce, also with us kimberly atkins stohr, boston globe columnist and msnbc political analyst, and lisa rubin, msnbc legal correspondent, and former federal prosecutor kristy greenberg who's also former deputy chief of the sdny criminal division and an msnbc legal analyst. so ken, bring us up to speed. what's happening inside that courtroom today?
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>> reporter: yeah, ana, as you alluded to, this argument that a special counsel appointment is unconstitutional has been tried and has failed in several courts before and appeals courts in the case of robert mueller and david weiss, the special counsel who's prosecuting hunter biden. the defense has a little bitd bit of a new wrinkle in this one in that jack smith is the only special counsel in modern history who has not previously been confirmed by the senate. what they're arguing is he wields so much power it's improper he didn't get that senate review. he's a principal officer under the constitution, not an inferior officer. we heard from a friend of the court argument from a group of people opposing that argument who say, as you said, in fact, this was decided back under the old independent counsel law in the '70s when the supreme court ruled that the independent counsel was an inferior officer and was not unconstitutional. and further more, this lawyer argued that jack smith works for
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the attorney general of the united states who has the authority to block any move that smith makes that the a.g. thinks is beyond the pale and violates the justice department rules. even though the justice department isn't controlling the actions of jack smith, he's supervised. what's extraordinary is this hearing is happening at all and particularly that judge cannon is allowing friends of the court, outside parties to come in and make arguments before her. that is rarely, if ever, seen in a federal criminal trial, ana. >> thank you very much for that update from the courthouse. kristy, do you think this question of whether jack smith's appointment is constitutional is worthy of the level of scrutiny and time judge cannon is spending here? i mean, she's not only spending a whole day on it, she's also calling in outside legal experts, i guess, she would call them. >> none of this is necessary. whether you go to a meeting and you say that meeting really
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should have been an email. this is hearing that really should have been an order, a summary order that was just denying trump's motion. the statutory text is clear and to the extent there are any questions about the statutory text giving the a.g. the authority to appoint a special counsel, u.s. v. nixon cleared that up. this is the supreme court saying that's what the statute said. appellate courts have followed that since. why this district court judge thinks she would have a different interpretation when the supreme court has already addressed it and appellate courts have already addressed it is beyond me and really it seems like the only basis that i can think of for why you would have all these outside parties coming in who are making crazy arguments. the outside parties tried this actually in the supreme court when they said you shouldn't even listen to the presidential immunity petition because jack smith has no more authority to argue before this court that has taylor swift does.
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that's ludicrous. she should be laughing this out of court. they should have not been even allowed in the court to make this argument, but again, delay is the name of the game here, and rather than talking about donald trump's egregious conduct in the classified case, we're talking about jack smith. it's deflection. it's distraction, it's delay, and it's unnecessary. >> lisa, what about this argument that trump's team is trying make that the special counsel has too much independence from the justice department and would make him essentially a superior officer and he's not somebody who has been appointed and confirmed by the senate. is there any merit to that argumenting. >> if past is prologue, there isn't, ana, here's why. what we see today as special counsels was preceded in history by an independent counsel statue that has lapsed. they operated with much more independence from the department of justice than today's special counsels do, and yet, they were still found by courts to be sufficiently inferior officers
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to have been constitutionally appointed. >> there have been so many things that this judge in the classified documents case has done that has raised eyebrows, i think you could say. let me tick through some of the other decisions this judge has made. it goes back to before trump was indicted. she appointed a special master to review the classified documents that were seized from mar-a-lago, which an appeals court that had two trump appointed judges on them later rejected unanimously. they slapped her down for that. then she asked both trump and the government, since she's gotten this case, to submit jury instructions, which experienced lawyers said was odd, especially the timing of those since we don't have a trial date yet. she keeps entertaining these defense motions that other legal experts say have no merit. back in may she said she couldn't even set a trial delaying the whole trial indefinitely even though both parties said they would be ready for the trial as soon as this
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summer. and yesterday we learned she was asked to step aside by other federal judges and said no. what are people supposed to make of all of this? >> yeah, i mean, look, she is relatively new in this type of role. she dunt have a lot of sneerns trying cases period. at the same time that in itself is not a transgression. every judge is new at some point, but what she is showing time and time again with all of the things that you just laid out is that she seems to be someone who gets easily diverted, focuses on sort of the minutia of a case and that sort of paralyzes it and slows it to a halt. this is something that other judges and other litigants before her have said they've experienced in the past, and we're seeing it again here in this case. perhaps that is one reason why she was cautioned against taking this case when it was assigned to her. but you know, particularly this
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argument today and also this other argument about a law that has nothing to do with this case, which is still pending, it's an order that is still -- a motion that's still pending before her and has been for months are evidence that something is really amiss here in my opinion. >> kristy, has this judge done anything that has crossed a legal or ethical line that would warrant jack smith to try to now get her removed from the case? >> no, not yet, and i think the reason not yet is because a lot of times she doesn't actually make a decision. she punts the decision and says, well, i'm not really sure i want to decide this yet. maybe down the line i'll take a closer look at it. she does that i think intentionally so that she can't get appealed and they can't bring it to the 11th circuit. because she has continued to insulate her decisions in that way, it seems very nefarious. if you want to make a decision and you believe that you've made
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the right decision, you've done all of this analysis, then stand by that decision. make it, and have it be appealed if the other side, one of the parties disagrees with it. she doesn't do that. it seems very calculated for somebody who seems to be, you know, new and inexperienced, it seems like she has given a lot of thought to how to try to insulate herself from review. let me pivot to developments in new york where the manhattan d.a. alvin brag just filed a response or a motion to try to keep a gag order in place for trump. in this new filing, lisa, he writes, quote, the recent threat activity directly connected to defendants' dangerous rhetoric about this prosecution includes bomb threats at the homes of two people involved in this case on april 15th, 2024, the first day of trial. it includes an online post depicting sniper sites on people involved in this case, and it includes other recent online posts and communications directed to the attorney, the district attorney or dany employees rofd in this
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prosecution that we will kill you all. this is really remarkable stuff. >> it's really remarkable stuff and it's also very necessary stuff because in moving to lift the gag order, one of the things that the trump attorneys said was all of the data that had been provided by the d.a.'s office to try and justify that component of the gag order that was geared toward protecting the career prosecutors, their families, courthouse staff, that data all came from 2023. and they pointed to a february 2024 affidavit by a gentleman at the nypd. he now has a new affidavit dated today in which he is providing the information that you just sited. he also says of 289 threat cases that have been logged by the nypd's threat assessment and protection unit, 61 of them involved threats to the d.a. so far this year in 2024 alone, 61 threats to the d.a.'s office alone, and then he goes on to say that four of them were
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referred for further investigation in partnership with a prosecutor's office. i take that to mean those threats emanated from outside new york. we know that one of them, for example, came from a man very far outside new york on the west coast of the country who was killed earlier this year in a standoff with the fbi but who had issued a threat of that nature, a very serious death threat to the d.a. this is the d.a.'s attempt to keep the gag order in place with respect to the counsel in the case. and i should note that while the threats are often geared toward the d.a. himself, he is not someone who is covered by the gag order. the president or the former president rather, can continue to speak about d.a. alvin bragg, and they point that out as well. and saying that the gag order is somehow a collusive activity between president joe biden and manhattan d.a. alvin bragg towards the president's political opponent, former president donald trump, that
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claim is a lie. is an exact sentence that appears in this brief. no stronger language i can think of that has appeared in this case to date, and i'm pressed to think about language that strong from a government office and any case i've seen before. >> the words that is a lie. that claim is a lie taking on that allegation that trump keeps putting out there that in some way the district attorney has been colluding with the biden administration. kimberly, does any of this have any bearing on trump's sentencing next month? >> it possibly could. it could, if he is seen to continue to violate the terms of his current gag order as it's being considered. it also can have repercussions in terms of his release qualifications. i want to point out something that's really important about what lisa is talking about. the reason that this motion is so strong and contains all of these issues is that the first amendment, really the first
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amendment protections of someone, particularly a political candidate is really strong. it's one thing to have a fwag order during the process of a trial, it's an even higher standard to have one after the trial is concluded, and you can clearly see that the d.a. is trying to make that case and say, yes, this is unusual, and he has first amendment protections but there are limits when it comes to people's safety. >> kimberly atkins stohr, thank you all so much. up next, a decision today out of the supreme court that could help protect domestic violence victims. we've got the details on that brand new ruling right after this. but first, a stark history lesson from baseball legend reggie jackson on thursday as the sport was honoring its african american players. the hall of famer on live tv at birmingham, alabama,'s rickwood field discussed the difficulties he faced playing in the segregated south back in the '60s. >> i walked into restaurants and they would point at me and say [ bleep ] can't eat here.
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now to the breaking news for the supreme court today, upholding a federal law banning guns for domestic abusers. and rejecting claims it violates the second amendment. nbc's yamiche alcindor has been digging into this supreme court decision. yamiche, what can you tell us? >> that's right, in this 8-1 supreme court decision, as you said, the supreme court is upholding the federal law that allows the firearms of people who have violated domestic abuse laws in this country to be taken away. i want to read to you part of the majority opinion that was written by john roberts, chief justice john roberts. he says we conclude only this, an individual found by a court to pose a credible threat to the
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physical safety of another may be temporarily disarmed consistent with the second amendment. this court did rule in 2022 that the second amendment allows for a right to bear arms outside of one's home for the first time. that's why in some ways this case was brought. i also want to read to you the dissenting opinion from justice clarence thomas. i want to read part of what he said. he said this law violates the second amendment. possessing firearms, second the government failed to produce any evidence that the law is consistent with the nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation, and i want to point to that real part where it says historical tradition. the number of concurring opinions written by a number of the women on the court talk about tradition and history here, concurring opinion by justices kagan and sotomayor saying even if at the founding of this nation there were laws that protected abusive husbands more than their wives, that shouldn't continue to be the case. also justice ketanji brown jackson wrote that the court needs to be very cognizant of
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how their decisions are playing out in real life because that case centered on a man who had violated domestic violence laws who had also been alleged to have abused his partner and actually shot at a number of people in a number of shootings there. she was really pointing at that. there's been a lot of o'reaction across the political spectrum. the president and vice president have both put out statements applauding and praising the supreme court for this. we've also heard from a number of domestic violence organizations saying this ruling is going to keep survivors and victims of domestic violence safer, ana. >> the president saying he remains committed to ending violence against women, and this being one tool for that. thank you very much, yamiche. extreme weather comp kazing -- complicating the effort to suppress deadly wildfires. the president issuing a disaster declaration. those fires displacing 8,000 people and destroying at least
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1,400 homes and other buildings. the national weather service is now warning of the potential for flash floods as rain descends on areas near what they call active burn scars from these fires. the high winds from this new star taking up a dangerous 200 mile long dust cloud. this is a bird's eye view showing the debris engulfing that whole region and complicating travel among other thing. there's a potential silver lining here, firefighters hope the rain from the storm could help put out the fires. steve patterson is live from new mexico. steve, what is happening right now with this firefight? >> reporter: yeah, the silver lining is coming down on myself and my crew as it has been all day long, which is certainly good news. it is cold and rainy, and it has been for most of the day. we spoke to a fire behavioralist who said that this is excellent conditions to help slow the spread of the fire. not going to put out the fire, of course, especially when
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you're talking about a fire this large. you spoke about some of the numbers, 8,000 people displaced, mandatory evacuations underway. the problem is this isn't just one fire. it is two fires. two fires that combined in size 24,000 acres. that's larger than the size of manhattan, and it's burning on multiple fronts, which means firefighters don't have a complete handle on it. they are split up. there's about a thousand fire personnel that is trying to push back on this. it has done so much damage already. 1,400 structures burned to the ground. as you mentioned, the estimate is that 500 of them are thought to be homes. they are doing estimates at this point with this disaster declaration in place that allows federal funding to be freed up for homeowners and business owners and residents who have been displaced from their homes. it also allows fema to get in here and the national guard to do some of their work in disaster relief as well. that's going to take some time. right now it is still very much
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the active firefight despite the rain, despite the fact that temperatures are lower. there is no containment as mentioned, and that is on both fires. if those fires happen to merge, combine, that would be a disastrous scenario. hopefully we are sort of averting that. it is still very active here. >> can't let up, steve, please stay safe. you and your crew, thank you both, thank you all for that reporting. coming up, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu takes a shot at the u.s. in a brand new interview. what he's now accusing the biden administration of doing. ministr. e taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn.
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welcome back. today a growing rift between the u.s. and israel with prime minister benjamin netanyahu once again accusing the biden administration of withholding weapons and ammo, tools he says he needs to finish the job of defeating hamas and to prevent an all-out war in lebanon. in a new interview with
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"punchbowl news" netanyahu thanked biden for supporting the israeli war efforts at the beginning but says there are now significant problems with weapons shipments. days ago netanyahu published this video making similar claims, comments the white house says are disappointing and vexing. joining us now, nbc's josh lederman. netanyahu says he privately brought up these issues with senior administration officials including the secretary of state antony blinken but that nothing happened. what more is he saying publicly now. >> reporter: ana, if there were any doubt that prime minister netanyahu intended to ruffle feathers with the biden administration with that video a few days ago, those doubts were put to rest by that interview today with punchbowl, which we should point out is a washington-based outlet in president biden's backyard. in this interview, netanyahu was really doubling down on that sharp critique of the white house saying, really suggesting that this is bigger than just the one shipment of very large
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bombs that the biden administration has acknowledged putting on hold so far. netanyahu saying that he tried very hard to work out this problem with the u.s. in private, but that it simply wasn't possible and that it was absolutely necessary that he air these grievances in public. he says that military officials are telling him that aid from the u.s. has now slowed down to a trickle and that secretary blinken has promised him to try to clear out that backlog, get those weapons flowing to israel again. netanyahu saying that he is fully expecting that that's exactly what the u.s. is going to do. we should point out, ana, this is not happening politically in a vacuum for netanyahu. he is now at odds publicly not only with the biden administration but with his own military, whose chief spokesman said just this week really it undermines the basic premise of netanyahu's war in the gaza strip saying that defeating hamas was not going to be possible and that anybody who tells the israeli public otherwise is essentially misleading them. and so this new rift with the
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biden administration as netanyahu is preparing to address congress may be one more attempt by the israeli prime minister to try to shift some responsibility for the way this war is going, as he was facing so much political pressure on all fronts, ana. >> thanks for staying on top of it. josh lederman, appreciate that reporting. coming up, the battle over free speech online heating up in washington. how lawyers for tiktok are trying to prevent an all-out ban on the platform in the u.s. listen to me, the hot dog diet got me shredded. it's time we listen to science. one a day is formulated with key nutrients to support whole body health. one a day. science that matters.
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welcome back. lawyers for social media giant tiktok say the law that would force the app to sell its u.s. operations or face a nationwide ban is unconstitutional and unmoored from reality. nbc's brian cheung is following this story for us. what else is tiktok saying, brian? >> this is at least tiktok's argument in what's going to be a pretty interesting court hearing that's going to begin in september. so, again, this is tiktok against the u.s. government after that law was passed earlier this year that says tiktok would have to be divested by bytedance within nine months or be banned in the united states. tiktok in this brief they had filed in court yesterday noted a draft agreement that they had with the u.s. government that wasn't signed that included a number of provisions, including barring china from being able to access u.s. data, some sort of provision that included third-party monitoring for propaganda and disinformation, and even a kill switch.
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that's the language that was used in this agreement where the government could shut down tiktok in the u.s. for noncompliance. tiktok is saying that appeared to be falling apart. whether or not a court sides with them, we'll have to see. that will heat up later on in september. >> brian cheung, appreciate the update. dangerous temperatures this summer, now a new warning for the millions of people who own electric cars. be careful about getting stuck inside. nbc's morgan chesky reports. >> with an estimated 3 million electric cars cruising on american roads, an urgent warning following multiple reports of drivers getting stuck inside vehicles or out of them if an on board battery dies. becky lebow says she and her daughter were driving a tesla when a 12 volt battery died locking them inside. unsure how to get out, they called a tow truck driver who
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didn't know either. >> he said he had never experienced that and he wasn't sure how he was going to get us out. >> reporter: alice moran says it happened to her, too, on a 97 degree day in palm springs. >> we had been on our way to vegas, for example, that is a long desolate stretch, and even if you call 911, we might have been dead by the time they got there. >> reporter: the national highway traffic safety administration now urging the owners of electric vehicles to familiarize themselves with the vehicle's features, including the manual door release location and immediately replace their 12 volt battery if they receive a battery warning. most electric vehicles have a main battery that powers the car and a smaller battery for electronics, including the door release and windows. if that 12 volt battery dies, experts say neither will work. so if the power goes out while you're inside, how do you get out? well, in this tesla, a model 3, look to the armrest.
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find the unmarked latch, push up and you're out. if you're trying to get outside, that's a different issue. >> nobody's telling them about this. >> reporter: firefighter paul schumaker trains first responders on rescues specifically for electric vehicles, due to the unique challenges they can pose. >> it could be the difference between life and serious injury due to dehydration or even death if it was something where it was like a drowning or a vehicle fire. >> reporter: since every electric car is slightly different, he says firefighters often end up breaking windows or tearing open doors to save those inside. >> morgan chesky with that report. much more to come from inside d hearing. our legal experts are stand big when jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right after this. f.
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