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a new legal loss for one of trump's closest allies. a federal appeals court denying steve bannon's bid to delay surrendering for his prison sense. he was convicted of contempt of congress and now he's asking the supreme court to interveern. we have seen how that might turn out. remember peter navarro, another trump ally convicted of the same crime. he filed the same appeal and lost. navarro is now serving out his sentence in prison. meanwhile, the surrender clock is going tick-tock for steve bannon, who is expected to report to prison on july 1st. that does it for me. be sure to catch the katie phang show saturdays at 12:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next. tonight on "the reidout" --
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>> i'm wondering what one or two of your most favored bible verses are. >> i wouldn't want to get into it because to me that's very personal. the bible means a lot to me but i don't want to get into specifics. >> even to cite a verse you like. >> i don't want to do that. >> old testament or new testament? >> probably equal. >> remember when trump, a self professed big fan of the bible, could not name a single bible verse. now he's backing the idea of displaying the ten commandments in taxpayer funded public schools. could he name eve one of those commandments and hasn't he broken lvery one of them. >> also, surprise, the supreme court sides with the biden administration on a major gun case, but there is still silence on presidential immunity as time begins to run out for a trump january 6th trial before election day. but we begin tonight with the warning brought to us earlier this week from activist and documentarian lauren
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windsor. in a secret reporting from a march event at mar-a-lago, lauren's colleague got this admission from longtime trump adviser roger stone on how they plan to steal this year's election. >> what stops them from just voter fraud? >> in some states, it will be easier to stop. in other places, it won't. but at least this time, when they do it, you have a lawyer and a judge, his home phone number, standing by so you can stop it. we made no preparations last time, none. >> according to stone, they believe they have some lawyers and judges in their pockets on speed dial, ready to go at a moment's notice. trump appointed nearly 250 federal judges during his presidency. i don't necessarily want to impugn their integrity, but if you're wondering why stone and trump might have this belief, all you need do is look at the federal election interference trial in florida. and how trump apointed judge aileen cannon has been handling
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the case. just today, we saw a mini trial play out in her ft. pierce florida courtroom, but she was not trying trump. she essentially put special counsel jack smith on trial instead. that's because she's yet again awarded trump a hearing on one of his far reaching and far fetched motions to dismiss the entire case against him on the argument that smith's appointment by attorney general merrick garland without senate confirmation was unconstitutional. and if you're wondering why such a hearing would appear to indicate cannon is showing trump uncommon favor it's because federal courts have repeatedly rejected efforts just like this one for decades. like when the supreme court upheld the appointment of one of the special prosecutors who investigated president richard nixon during the watergate scandal. it was also the case when federal courts tossed out the same arguments against robert mueller's appointment as special counsel in the investigation of trump's relationship with russia. and against david weisz, who
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brought two criminal cases against president biden's son hunter. and yet, cannon has decided despite those precedents, the trump filing still warranted a days-long hearing when she could have just read the legal briefs and issued a ruling like many experienced judges said they would have done. adding to the bizarre nature of today's hearing is the fact she did not just hear just from the prosecution and defense, she also allowed outside parties to argue before her about whether smith's appointment was constitutional. we're told by legal experts that this never happens. there is no reason to bring in outside parties who have no relevance to the case. again, showing cannon's inexperience handling cases like this, or her preference to trump. one or the other. might also explain reporting by "the new york times" that shortly after cannon was assigned the case last year, two more experienced judges on the federal bench in florida urged her to decline and give it to
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another judge. according to the times, that included the chief judge in the southern district of florida. and it was done not only for the optics given her history with the case, but also because of the logistics that included the fact that the miami courthouse already had a secure facility to view the classified documents that are at issue in the case, rather than having to build one at her ft. pierce courthouse at taxpayer expense. of course, cannon refused to give it up, and ever since, she's slow walked the case, agreeing to hold hearings on trump's absurd motions, but then taking her sweet time in delivering any rulings. next week, cannon will also entertain trump's motion to toss out the damning memos from his lawyer evan corcoran, that put trump dead to rights on the obstruction charges. his lawyers' claim they should have never been given to prosecutors on the crime fraud exception to begin with. as nbc news point out, by continuing to require hours of
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court time for nearly every matter of dispute, cannon, a trump appointee, has played right into trump's strategy of trying to delay a trial in this case until after the election. that could not be made any clearer by the fact that last month, cannon indefinitely postponed the trial with no start date in sight. if all of that was not bizarre enough, from the courts today, we also saw the supreme court take a moment to say hold my beer, or maybe that was just justice brett kavanaugh. because today, trump's former adviser steve bannon asked the highest court to take up his case and keep him out of prison while he appeals his conviction on contempt of congress charges for defying the subpoena lawfully issued to him by the january 6th select committee. bannon is set to report to prison in ten days. instead of just tossing out the request as they do to hundreds of petitions, they're showing signs of at least considering it by asking the justice department to respond to bannon's request
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by next wednesday. joining me now is katie phang, trial attorney and host of the katie phang show on msnbc. david jolly, former republican congressman and msnbc political analyst, and dave aronberg, state attorney for palm beach county, florida. our two lawyers, although i'm assuming david may be a lawyer, too. is there any reason you can think of why the supreme court would not just toss this and would ask the justice department to respond in any way? >> it's baffling because the appeals court has already dealt with the issue vis-a-vis whether or not bannon's conviction would stand. so i'm a little confused as to why they're kind of saying the doj has to participate in it, but ultimately, as we can see, joy, he still has to report. i mean, the clock is ticking for steve bannon to report on july 1st. he's tried the hail marys. they haven't worked. having them do this is just an exercise in futility for steve
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bannon. >> your thoughts, dave. it does seem odd. you have to go to jail, man. there's no american other than i guess donald trump and maybe steve bannon that could say, no, i'm not ready to go to jail. supreme court, hook me up. >> i agree with katie. it is so bizarre. you know, judge nichols, a trump appointee, gave bannon a gift when he allowed bannon to stay out pending his appeal. there's a novel argument, maybe he'll succeed on his appeal, on his advice of counsel defense. garbage, peter navarro was in the same situation and was sent right to jail. he had a different judge, not judge nichols, a trump appointee. now the supreme court is going to weigh in. i don't see an explanation, a reason for it, just because they ask for paperwork, for briefs, doesn't mean they're going to do it. if they did it, i think that would be unconscionable. there's no reason to do so. >> david jolly, let me remind everybody of why the january 6th committee wanted to hear from steve bannon. there's a good reason why, and it's him, the thing he said on
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january 5th, 2021. here it is. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's all converging and now we're on, as we say, the point of attack. the point of attack tomorrow. i'll tell you this, it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. it's going to be quite extraordinarily different, and all i can say is strap in. >> david jolly, if you were still in congress and on the january 6th committee, wouldn't you want to know why he said that? >> sure, look, there's credible reason to believe steve bannon contributed to violence on january 6th, 2021, and there's reason to believe he's trying to stoke violence again with this rhetoric and words. here's the stupidest part of the entire thing with steve bannon. all he had to do to stay out of jail was to reply to the subpoena. didn't have to answer any questions. all he had to do is say okay, i'll show up and now i'm not going to answer your questions. he didn't do tat. look, he's dug his own grave
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here, enjoy prison, it's going to be a long haul. >> he could have pleaded the fifth. you can always plead that, but you have to show up. let's go to aileen cannon. this is what has happened, katie, in every single one of the cases against donald trump. the people putting him on trial wind up on trial. jack smith, they argued his appointment was unconstitutional. fani willis, they tried to disqualify her by humiliaing her about her relationship. judge juan merchan, they tried to recuse him. judge lewis kaplan, who ruled against his businesses. they claimed alina habba claimed false allegations of a mentor/mentee relationship, she made those allegations between the judge and e. jean carroll's lawyer. judge arthur engoron -- in his business, the case against his businesses, demanded he recuse
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himself from the new york civil fraud case and accused him of engaging in prohibited communications. they put the lawyers on trial, the prosecutors on trial. they have been successful at dragging them through these processes. >> yeah, you know, when it comes to memes, one of my favorite ones is the lord grant me the confidence. i want the lord grand me the confidence of a mediocre trump appointed judge. that's what you get with the iline canon situation. when it comes to all the other judges that are not putting their finger on the scale for donald trump, what you're seeing is let's throw everything on the wall. there is a legal theory, call the spaghetti theory. you throw everything on the wall, and you see what sticks. when you try to go against the prosecution or the judges and you allege bias or some type of partisan action that's being taken by the judicial system, that then rigs the outcome, right? when donald trump is convicted, he can just point to that and say, well, judge merchan was biased or d.a. alvin bragg had it in for me because bragg is racist, how that works i have no
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idea. when you do that, you can try to end run the legal outcome of a judicial system, and that gives you the cover you need for your less educated lower valued voters that are going to buy into that saying that there's no way this outcome could have occurred other than something being wrong with the prosecutors or the judges in the case. >> dave, let's talk about aileen cannon specifically. she has a tendency to rule in donald trump's favor. she's done it before. some other judges that are more senior to her saw her past history with the cases and said maybe you should recuse. you're not experienced. your court would have to be outfitted with these special scifs. she still took the case. what she's doing with the case, it makes it very suspicious that she wanted the case for a very specific reason, to stuff it into a watery grave. your thoughts. >> joy, judge cannon was humiliated last year when the conservative 11th circuit court of appeals took her off the case and reversed her when she got involved in the special master thing. this is her idea of redemption.
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she wants this case back. she wants to prove she can do it. but her decisions have left us all scratching our heads. i benignly will say it's because of her inexperience. she's left alone in the ft. pierce courthouse without any adult supervision. but i understand why a lot of people think it's lot worse, something more nefarious, when a referee gives the calls to the same team over and over again at the expense of the other team, you have a right to ask those questions. she's going to stick to the case. the fact she rejected the quest of the senior judges there including the chief judge, that's judicial chutzpah. that's a technical legal term that we use in the law. >> i mean, also, the thing is, i want to read some of the threats. the thing is, david, she is the one who has been exempted from this horrible treatment that we have seen of everyone involved in prosecuting donald trump. let's go to manhattan d.a. alvin bragg. a series, a stream of threats. and he's asked to extend the gag order because of them. the threats have included, they were logged in 2024, language, we will kill you all.
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you should be in witness protection. you're dead. your life is done. rip. the threat cases were also logged for a post, saying sniper sites on people involved in the case or a family member of such a person and a post disclosing the home address of a d.a. office employee. another threat logged on april 15th, 2024, was a bomb threat to the residences of two people involved in the case. april 15th was the first day of the trial. these are just the threats he's gotten at his office, and it's been a stream of them. and alvin bragg is not the only one. fani willis has gotten them. everyone involved, every judge, every prosecutor has been threatened physically. aileen cannon is alone as being sort of in a bubble of, you know, protection from the maga base. >> yeah, because she's in the bag, if not because there was a transaction, because she's incompetent, and look, i think you can look at the different inflection points of her rulings and realize she's in over her head. she really doesn't know how to handle this case. she should have recused herself,
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and she didn't. what you're seeing in the violent threats to other judges, and in donald trump's motions is the strategy that's been in front of us for several months. delay as much as you can. the more insidious elements are going to create intimidation. here's the silver lining we often don't talk about, it's this. if joe biden beats donald trump in november, none of these delays actually matter to the disposition of these cases because he will remain citizen trump. and although some of these rulings and trials might happen next year, the january 6th one, for instance, citizen trump is still going to face trial and face accountability regardless of the delays. that is why this question in november is so important. if we want justice to be had for donald trump, joe biden needs to beat donald trump in november, and the american people need to realize that. >> it's a fair point. katie, talk to me about the actual hearings today. substantively, what happened, and what seemed to have been the point?
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>> you heard from emile bove, that name sounds familiar. we saw him with todd blanche representing donald trump in the manhattan d.a.'s election interference case. bove arguing on behalf of donald trump telling judge cannon that the unconstitutional appointment of jack smith merits the dismissal of the indictment wholesale against donald trump, stating that the reliance upon united states against nixon when other jurisdictions and judges said it is okay to have a special counsel, bove saying you can't rely upon nixon because it's not precedent. it's not the actual holding from the case, just language from the opinion, and that basically all of these judges have gotten it wrong. now, of course, special counsel's counsel gets up and says, his name is james pearson. he said this is real precedent. the irony is this, you had donald trump's lawyers complaining that there's no, quote, oversight over jack smith. she's too independent, yet, we all know if there was more
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interfacing between jack smith and merrick garland, you would have complaint from donald trump there was too much coordination and merrick garland is just controlling jack smith like a puppeteer. what was fascinating today is you had friends of the court that the filed briefs that judge cannon accepted, got them filed on the docket, and lawyers, two for donald trump, one against donald trump in support of jack smith. this never happens. they don't come to court and open court and argue positions. they can file the briefs if they're accepted by the court, but to have these lawyers come in today was astounding. it doesn't happen. i want to emphasize this. the fact that cannon is doing it, it's either because she does need an education, which i would be embarrassed to get in real time, but it's either she doesn't know what's going on and needs the education or she's doing it because she things the farce of looking like she's being impartial is going to be supported by it. either way, four hours, joy, was spent on a basic motion, but only a part of the motion. the second half is dealt with on monday in the morning. >> aileen cannon is going to
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judge school at taxpayer expense and holding up a trial to do it. this is madness. katie phang, david jolly, dave aronberg, thank you all very much. lord help. up next on "the reidout," a stunner from the supreme court on gun rights. as we keep waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting on the totally obvious presidential immunity decision. stay with us. heartburn makes you queasy? get fast relief with new tums+ upset stomach & nausea support, and love food back. (♪♪) if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis.
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today, the supreme court decided to limit ever so slightly just who can have guns
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in this country. ruling that violent abusers do not have that right. at issue was texas drug dealer zaki rureally. rahimy dragged his partner out of a restaurant and shoved her into a car. the incident caught the attention of a bystander. rahimy angered, grabbed his gun and shot towards the witness. shortly thereafter, his partner successfully obtained a restraining order. that suspended his gun lyleance for two years. he still contacted his partner anyway and threatened a different woman. in the space of two month, he opened fire in public five times. that prompted a search of his home where officers foun a cache of guns. he was charged and pleaded guilty to unlawful gun possession. he was sentenced to more than six years in prison. he asked to have his conviction overturned claiming his second amendment rights were inflinjed. today, eight of the 9 justices disagreed. clarence thomas was the only justice who thought he should
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have his access to guns. at the end of the day, this case wasn't just about domestic abusers. it's a case about another recent disastrous unworkable decision. back in 2019, the court's conservative majority struck down a ban on carrying a firearm in public. in so doing, justice thomas, on behalf of the conservative majority, invented a new rule. that rule is that if you want to regulate guns, then you have to show the court that there is law on the books and part of a historical tradition that happened right smack in the middle of rahimy's appeals. as you can imagine, that ruling wreaked havoc throughout the courts because judges didn't know how to apply the thomas invented rule or what it even means. dozens of states and federal laws were invalidated in whole or part. faced with the consequences of their self-created disaster, they took this case and decided to try to fix it. joining me is leah lipman, cohost of the strict scrutiny podcast. thank you for being here.
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and you know, reading through the ruling written by john roberts and all of the people who wrote concurrences in thomas' dissent, what came through most to me is most of what they were writing is not about this case. it was about that other case that i was talking about. it was called the bruin case. this is a case that ruled that states like new york can't pasgun laws unless you can go into the text from the 18th century and find something, a law in 1789 that said you can do that specific thing. they argued a lot about that. your thoughts. >> i think that's exactly right. i think you're right to point out that the supreme court is really the one that owns the fact that lower courts were invalidating laws like this one that prohibited people subject to domestic violence restraining orders from owning firearms because the six republican appointees joined the opinion that said a gun regulation is lawful only if it falls in the nation's regulation of firearms,
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and if you're looking for a law that dates back to the 1700s and 1800s, well, you're going to find that laws did not address many of the modern problems that modern day legislatures do. and what is in fact i think most troubling about the opinion in rahimy today is that they don't actually disavow the bruin decision. they purport to clarify misunderstands about it, but if you require seven different justices to offer seven different takes on how to do originalism and traditionalism, this is the very definition of insanity. doing the same thing again and expecting a different result. it's going to create more confusion and allow lower courts to continue to invalidate gun regulations because the supreme court hasn't disavowed guns and has want told them to do the rahimy analysis or the bruin analysis. >> you had sotomayor and kagan write a concurrence that said basically, y'all messed up. you should just admit it.
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you wrote a rule that existed as you said when women and black people were property and you're trying to hold people to it. and justice jackson who wasn't there for the bruin decision says i wasn't here, but i'm telling you it was messed up. they were like a slap at clarence thomas who tripled down and said no, i meant it, back like when i would have been a slave and couldn't have looked at my wife without being lynched, i want to go back to then. if you can't find me a law that was written then, you can't do it. it's remarkable. let's talk about the other thing they're up t today, doing nothing on immunity. you have written about it. it does seem like this is deliberate and it might be trolling because they're sort of setting us up with a ruling that isn't crazy because they're going to come down and give donald trump absolute immunity and invalidate all these cases of obstructing an official proceeding and probably say women have to be at death's door in the e.r. and can't be treated with an abortion. am i too cynical?
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>> there's a ton of big decisions we're awaiting and i think you're right to fear the worst in the abortion case. no matter what the supreme court says in trump's immunity decision, what they have done by drawing out the decision and waiting now two months since oral argument and then waiting to take the case after special counsel smith asked them to take it back in december and they didn't agree to take it until february is they effectively immunized him even if they don't formally grant him immunity, because by drawing out the case, they're preventing a pre-election trial and pre-election verdict where a jury could actually decide whether the former president interfered with a lawful transition of power by refusing to leave office and interfering with lawfully cast votes and contesting the results of a valid election. i mean, that is a huge slap in the face to democracy, denying american voters a chance to have a jury of their peers weigh in on whether the former president actually interfered with again the transition of power. >> i wonder if you have thoughts on even taking up steve bannon's attempt to delay going to prison
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for defying the january 6th committee. it does seem like on january 6th cases they're being clear, saying we're not going to allow anything to happen that could interfere with our preferred candidate becoming president. that just seems to be what it is, and we're going to pass delays, play the game that steve bannon is playing. whatever game it is, seems to have the same conclusion. they want trump back, at least the six of them do. >> i mean, it's difficult not to suspect that is at least a possibility because in steve bannon's appeal below when he asked the d.c. circuit to block him from having to report to jail, you had the one trump nominee on the panel dissent from the decision, saying no, you have to go to jail. and he dissented acknowledging there wasn't actually any precedent or law supporting steve bannon, but what is precedent or law these days, i guess, if you are a trump nominated judge on the federal courts? and it's extremely concerning because it's not just the trump immunity case that the supreme court is holding on to, but another case called fisher about another law that donald trump
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has been charged with as well as many other january 6th rioters that could potentially remove criminal accountability from those cases as well. >> if you want to know what president is these days, look for somebody with an upside down american flag or a jesus flag with the thing on it, it's whatever they want. leah lipman, i said that. >> follow the money, the organization color of change is calling out the corporate charities that are backing the most extreme anti-dei activists. rashad robinson, president of color of change, joins me next. kayak. no way. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? kayak. i like to do things myself. i do my own searching. it isn't efficient. use kayak. i can't trust anything else to do the job right.
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we put a label to it. critical race theory. actually, they put a label to it in the 1990s. we just appropriated it. there's these like very kind of pathetic and very, you know, angry graduate students that, you know, try to fight me on these highly technical interpretations and it's like i don't have time for this. i don't give a [ bleep ] about this stuff. >> if you or a loved one were denied a job or professional opportunity as a result of diversity, equity mandates, aformative action or other racial preferences, we want to hear from you. >> right wing ghouls, i mean activists, christopher rufo,
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stephen miller, and ed blum have made a name for themselves attacking affirmative action in the hopes of reinstating the policy, laws, and culture norms that sustained jim crow at every level of society. have you ever wondered where these guys are getting all the money to file lawsuits against groups that give money or opportunities to say, black farmers or black women entrepreneurs? well, you're not alone. color of change, a civil rights advocacy organization wondered too and they're launching a petition against corporate charities that provide funding to these right wing crusades, and some of those charities will siend very familiar to you. joining me is rashad robinson, president of color of change. who are these companies funding these guys? >> they are the goldman sachs, fidelity, vanguard, some of the biggest organizations that have donor advice funds where they sort of collect money from donors with the goldman
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situation, it's goldman employees. and they have final say at goldman around where the money goes. so while goldman sachs is making these statements about diversity, taking out ads, making claims about their support for black americans, they're then going and giving money to the people that are trying to make those very donations illegal. it's the kind of ultimate trick bag. it's almost like they feel like they're forced into doing something good, forced into supporting diversity because they may not actually believe in it, and then with the other hand, they're giving money to these folks who want to make it illegal. so eventually when it's possibly illegal, they can say, well, we can't do it anymore. we can't give the money. and they can go back to having c-suites that are basically all white. they can go back to having corporate practices and structures that don't actually move resources to communities. and all of the sort of diversity was, you know, kind of play. >> well, all white and all male,
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because dei positions are mostly white women as is affirmative action. so you have goldman sachs claiming basically, the spokesperson who responded to forbes which did a little digging on what you're doing and what the donor advice funds are doing. their response was we can't police the politics and ideology of our work force. okay, but after october 7th what happened with hamas and israel, they barred donation to something called the people's forum, which is an organization that supports protests against israeli military actions in gaza. when it comes to gaza, they have policed. >> and other issues over time they have policed. there's all sorts of ways, when a corporation says they don't tell their employees what they can and can't do, don't believe them because it's simply not true. it doesn't pass the test. i mean, what we're seeing from these companies is them sort of scrambling. we with all of our corporate campaigns, we reach out first. we sent letters to these
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companies. we got on the calls. we even had a conversation, our staff had a conversation with goldman sachs where they said to us, well, you know, we give a lot of money to black women. and we're giving money to these black women groups. >> wait a minute, ed blum would literally say, then i'm going to sue those black women. >> i'm going to sue them and make it impossible for those black women organizations to do their work. but it's also this idea that an organization working on behalf of black women is the other side of neo segregationist. that there's two sides to this debate, on one hand, i'm going to give money to black women. on the other hand, i'm going to give money to these people who want to close the door to education opportunities, close to door to government contracts, close the door to employment, and rip us back to a time when opportunity simply didn't exist. >> you called them neo seg rugagzests. it's a new way of describing what the ed blums and creepy
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stephen millers are. why do you yiez that term? >> by closing the door to opportunity, turning back the hand of time to where culture norms and legal practices created segregation, the laws that sort of pushed us forward by making that work illegal, they are taking us back. so they are the new segregationists. and if you listen to their rhetoric, and if you listen to what their sort of larger intentions are, they both believe the era and times when every position of power was dominated by white men was about people -- >> the true american air. >> the true american era and also about the quality and merit of those folks, not about the rules and the infrastructure that drove people to not being able to participate. and so for us at color of change, we recognize we have to hold corporations accountable. the rules and laws we get are a result of a whole set of factors
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and part of that is the way that corporations engaj. >> by the way, the fact these neo segregationists are using the 1866 civil rights act, the klan act, and using it against black is something. it's nasty work. you can go on colorofchange.org. you should learn more about this. coming up next, donald trump endorses the ten commandments for your kids to follow, not him, as he makes a promise to noncitizens that he almost certainly will not keep. stay with us.
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so i want to thank pastors robert morris and steve dulan. they're great people. great people with a great reputation, i have to say. great reputation. >> yeah, one of those people, great people with great reputation that you heard donald mention there is texas megachurch pastor robert morris, who just this week resigned from his church after admitting inappropriate behavior amid allegations that he sexually abused a 12-year-old girl for years in the 1980s when he was in his 20s. besides being a former spiritual adviser to trump, morris has also been a staunch supporter of conservative efforts throughout the years, preaching about the dangers of critical race theory and lgbtq inclusion in schools. even calling on parishioners to support an anti-trans bathroom bill pitched by texas governor greg abbott as a way to, quote, protect the safety of women and
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children. it comes as today trump gave his full support to the new louisiana law that requires the ten commandments to be displayed in all public school classrooms writing on his failing social media site, i love the ten commandments in public schools, private schools, and many other places. for that matter, read it. how can we as a nation go wrong? bring back ttc, which is rich coming from a guy who let's be real, is a walking violation of nearly every commandment. joining me now is molly jong fast, special correspondent for vanity fair, and elie mystal. people say what about thou shall not kill? >> i say covid. all of them. if this had been an adviser to democrats, we would be talking about reverend morris all day every day. why are we not? >> all day every day, and it would be part of the qanon, proof that qanon was real. it would be a conspiracy. it would be we know this is
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proof that hillary clinton -- no, trump gets away with stuff. republicans have worked the refs so hard in the mainstream media that they just don't get the same scrutiny that democrats do. >> yeah. >> white people made obama kick jeremiah wright to the curb. they demanded jeremiah wright be kicked out. >> essentially for quoting dr. king about america going to hell. >> where is that happening with trump? it never happened. trump is a man who could not name the ten commandments if you spotted him five. yet nobody is going to ask him about it. it's not going to come on the debate, not on the conservative right wing media these days. they don't care. >> the other piece is on the ten commandments thing specifically, the governor of louisiana is saying please sue me because he wants to go to this court. i have no confidence that this, that the leonard leo six won't say, yeah, you can do it. >> look, if i robbed a bank and the supreme court was full of bank robbers i would be like, by
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all means, please sue me. bring me to me people on the supreme court. like when the untouchables, he's like arrest me, because he knows he has the courts bought. this case, this ten commandments case, it was literally already decided by the supreme court in 1980. we already had this discussion, like a 5-4 ruling and the reason why landry is doing it is because he knows the supreme court is different now and he knows the supreme court has absolutely no respect for its own precedent. and so he's quite confident, and i don't think he's wrong, that the supreme court, the current control of the supreme court, will help landry get this law through. and then a bunch of other states are going to follow. >> the only question is whether the supreme court dicta will be upside down. >> it's red meat to the base. he's saying, you know, we're christian. this is -- >> we is doing a lot of work there. >> it is a separation of church and state, and a lot of the gop base doesn't want that. >> let's talk about what else changed.
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the republican party has monumentally changed in what they allow publicly. let us play val tina gomez. she is the republican candidate for missouri's secretary of state. hear what her thoughts on juneteenth. >> reparations from slavery and black victimization is about to be shoved down our throats for the most retch udholiday in america. it's outrageous to see people asking for reparations, even though they never went through slavery. these ungrateful people should be celebrating because they were born in the greatest nation to ever exist. here's a tip. if you don't like america, kindly [ bleep ] out. >> a few things there. first, the offense of her using kendrick >> she got here in 2009 from columbia.
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she is an immigrant. and one of the state reps in missouri can counseled her to maybe be here for a generation or two when you tell people who have been here since 1619 to get out. >> you said this is new, and i don't think it is new. i think this is exactly what you heard from republicans when they were protesting martin luther king jr.'s holiday. they called that the most wretched holiday. then we should get over slavery. they said then we were ungrateful. this is what republicans have been, they just have it on tiktok now. it is more supported now. i think this is always the fight in this country, that all holidays are made up, so now talk to me about thanksgiving. that is a made up one day. they don't celebrate eggs giving in canada. but anyway. this is always the fight, and the only thing that makes me happy is that that particular person is losing. that particular idea is losing.
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juneteenth was a wonderful holiday for me and my kids. i got to tell them a little bit, because my kids are now older. so we have transitioned out of martin luther king, now we are talking about welcome next. now we have the new excuse to have that conversation. i was happy with my juneteenth, i am hoping you are happy with yours, and i hope she was salty the entire day. >> miserable. and meanwhile, you have trump. let's go back to what he is doing. he is now promising he is going to get green cards for noncitizen college graduates. it is very hard to get in, you cannot get financial aid if you're a noncitizen, if you are a document. and he has also threatened to deport college students who do not do what he says. now he is saying do what i say and you get a green card, don't do what i say and you get deported. >> i don't know if this is interesting, donald trump will say anything to get elected. >> but he said this in 2016. >> he is running on mass deportation squads, so i think that should be the top line.
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but he was on this podcast with a bunch of very rich tech boroughs who like him because he said he likes cryptocurrency. i'm sure he has no idea what cryptocurrency is. and he wants to keep their taxes low. so, what these tech bros wants to hire college graduates, we have a very tight labor market in this country. this is the big lie about immigration, we need these people to work at jobs. >> and to pay social security. >> there was a supreme court case today where the majority on the supreme court ruled that you do not have the right to give a green card to your spouse. if you marry a spouse who is from another country, they don't automatically get a right to a green card. amy coney barrett wrote that while the right to marry is fundamental, the right to live with your spouse is not. that was the 6-3 a conservative court today, and of course, i am reading the case screaming melania , melania as i am reading the case. because the exact rule but
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trump used to bring it melania and her whole family to this country is what the supreme court said was not a fundamental right today. that was 6-3, that was three republican justices that were appointed by trump at the very time. >> many of whom are also the grandchildren or children of immigrants. isn't it a fine world we live in? guess what? we are going to play who won the week coming up next. for moderate to severe vasomotor symptoms due to menopause... ...veozah is the first and only prescription treatment that directly blocks a source of hot flashes and night sweats. with 100% hormone-free veozah... ...you can have fewer hot flashes... ...and more not flashes. veozah reduces the number and severity of hot flashes day and night. don't use veozah if you have cirrhosis, severe kidney problems, kidney failure, or take cyp1a2 inhibitors. increased liver blood test values may occur. your doctor will check them before and during treatment. most common side effects
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thank god. now, who won the week? here is where i ask who won the week. back with me. >> pick! >> first mlb game in alabama to celebrate. there are too many people, especially watching fox sports who have not heard the story that reggie gave. it is just a reminder that this legacy of slavery and jim crow is not passed. it is present. there are people alive who lived through it. >> i was a sporty shorty. one of my prized possessions growing up was a reggie jackson baseball card.
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it is probably worth the money. >> 60 years since the mississippi three disappeared, were murdered by the tran20. the three of them went down there to register voters, summer of 64. they disappeared. their legacy, the legacy of civil rights, you know, african- americans working together, just really near and dear to my heart. and, you know, something we should be -- >> and people should never forget that michael warner, who they hated more than all of them, he was only 24. the other two were 20. that is how young they were. my who won the week, you know i love an oldie. i grew up watching this. my mom loved the show. errol barnett is 91 years old and spry. she has her hands in the theater, and she is still on a tv show. she is funny, she's wonderful, i love her. she is

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