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a search warrant was executed at donald trump's resort. they cracked his safe. the search was tied to classified material trump allegedly took from the white house when he left in 2021. the former president claiming in a statement that the fbi broke into his safe calling the search quote unannounced. >> okay so inthat was nearly tw years ago. and to this day, the american people still do not know why donald trump took hundreds of classified documents with him after he left the white house. he stored them in unsecured areas throughout his florida property. in ugbathrooms, on top of stage they do not know why trump was
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so determined to hang onto the classified materials. some had information regarding nuclear secrets and defense weapons capabilities of the united states and foreign countries. why would donald trump after serving as president need the state secrets? why did d he go so far as to ha his aids move boxes. by the end of 2022, a few months after the fbi searched mar-a-lago, reporting in the washington post indicated jack smith's office surmised donald trump's motivation to withhold secrets about u.s. defense capabilities and n nuclearprogramming, his motivation was ego, not money. the former president wanted to hold onto materials as trophies. last summer nbc obtained audio tape. one of the incidentings
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mentioned the the indictment. it showed trump allegedly admitting to a crime and supported the idea of ego being the motive. in the tapes you can hear trump in july of 2021 bragging to a group of people at his bedminister golf club he still had classified information in his possession after leaving the white house. then you can hear trump seemingly showing those people who did not have security clearances the very same documents including a classified pentagon plan about a potential attack on iran. >> all sorts of stuff. pages long. wait a minute, let's see here. >> i just found, isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case you know. except it is highly confidential secret. this is secret information. look at this. this was done by the military and given to me.
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i think we can probably, right? >> i don't know. we'll have to see. >> as president i can i declassify it. now i can't. isn't that interesting? >> yeah. >> it's so cool. >> and you probably almost didn't believe me but now you no believe me. >> i believed you. >> it's incredible right? bring some cokes in please. >> hey guys, can we get some cokes in here please as we look through these classified documents? you hear the shuffling of the papers. it is just unbelievable right? but a few months after the release. jack smith's office said they were confident they know why trump allegedly retained the documents. specifically they said what trump knew, what he intended in retaining them, the government would prove at trial. except we have still waiting for the trial. it was set for this past may.
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despite both sides being willing to go to trial in july or in august. the federal judge overseeing the case, aileen cannon made no that impossible. she officially postponed the trial indefinitely. she appears to be doing everything within her power to slam on the brakes to bring this case to a virtual standstill. letting motions pile up and granting time consuming hearings on trivial matters. so it is no wonder despite trump's history of attacking every judge who presides over his multiple cases he has never once gone after judge cannon. in fact, he has done quite the opposite. >> i know it's a highly respected judge. a very smart and strong judge. >> you appointed her. >> i did. very proud to have appointed her. very smart and strong and loves our country. loves our country. we need judges that love our country so they do the right
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thing. >> the message was loud and clear. the american public will likely not find out why the republican front runner refused to return state secrets he had stored away in his mansion. what exactly intended to do with them before they head to the polls this november. if trump wins he could shut down the case entirely. that does not appear to be priority for judge cannon. instead, she seems intent on wasting time by scheduling bizarre hearings like the one that took place in the courthouse. they argued a point they first raised four months ago, but somehow, jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed as special counsel. a desperate legal argument routinely dismissed. but the judge thinks it is worth a full day in court. she grilled government il prosecutors about how closely merrick garlandover sees their work.
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the prosecutor replied he was th not authorized to discuss the level of communication before adding i don't want to make it seem like i'm hiding something. also a trump lawyer claimed the existence of a special counsel amounted to a shadow government. cannon replied that sounds very ominous. but what does that mean? trump's lawyer of t course did not answer cannon's question and just repeated his argument that jack smith was inappropriately appointed but his failure to answer does not matter in the end. judge cannon's decision to entertain such novel arguments eating up more time on the clock was in itself another in a series of wins for trump in his defense. the question now, will that winning streak continue? joining me now, matthew, a lawyer and legal scholar who presented oral arguments in front of judge cannon today. thank you so much for being with us. you argued in front of judge cannon today. jack smith's appointment was s indeed constitutional. the main points you were trying
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to get across? >> first, thanks for having me. the main points to get across here are that there are decades of precedent that establish jack smith was lawfully appointed. every court to have ever addressed this issue in similar circumstances in identical circumstances has held that. so for judge cannon to entertain this issue while ruling that jack smith was unconstitutionally appointed would be an extraordinary breach with precedent and i'm confident that they would swiftly reverse her. >> you need to help me understand something. a lot of people were surprised cannon allowed outside parties to the case to argue in court today. were you surprised? >> yes i was. so we never intended to try to participate in this. it is extremely uncommon to participate in oral argument
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even at the supreme court so a when we filed a motion to participate, we said we only wanted to do so because she had asked the other side to do so. even at the supreme court, .2% of cases have outside counsel that don't represent the government of the united states so it is extraordinarily uncommon. that is an indication that june cannon was seriously entertaining this issue that had been so quickly rejected by every other court. >> you layer onto the unusual nature of outside counsel. a lot of legal experts thought today's hearing shouldn't have occurred at all. what say you? >> well, the fact she had a hearing at all, you know, it is neither here nor there for me. the most important take away from today i think that might not come through from reading the headlines is that judge cannon seemed to reject president trump's argument. very skeptical of his position. now, there are some caveats to
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that which we can do into but ultimately, the most important take away from her questions today is that she has everything that she needs. she has all the materials in hand to swiftly reject the argument that he was unconstitutionally appointed. >> i agree the skepticism was clear in the reporting. tell me about the caveats you referenced. >> the most significant caveat i think was a line of questioning that you referenced in the intro that happened at the very end. she probed the special counsel's attorney about the actual level of involvement tu that the attorney general has in overseeing the case. now that is legally irrelevant. the only thing that matter is whether merrick garland has legal authority to control the case and dismiss special council smith if he wants to. that is undoubtedly true. but merrick garland as other me
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attorney generals have before has made a policy decision not to interfere on the day-to-day conduct of the investigation and the prosecution. it is not relevant whether merrick garland has interfered with or had contact with the day-to-day operations of the special council's office. it indicates she might want to probe that further. that worries me for two reasons. it is legally irrelevant and could eat up a lot of time. so hopefully she recognizes under the law, these sorts of factual probings into the internal workings of the department of justice are both inappropriate, unwarranted and irrelevant. >> matthew on what has indeed been a very busy day for you.
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now glen, as we came on the air, we have a new filing from jack smith. in it, he is reiterating his support for a gag order in this case after trump repeatedly said that agents were trying to kill him during the mar-a-lago search. cannon has scheduled a hearing for this on monday. what do you make of it all? >> jack smith is pulling no punches. i briefly went through this new court filing and here was one of representations special counsel makes. trump essentially argues that the first amendment will be eroded unless he, donald trump, is permitted to lie about fbi agents intending to murder him and his family. the law requires no such thing. these are blunt assertions by jack smith. and you know, when aswe reflect back on how we got here, donald
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trump's lawyers were given a heads up about when the fbi would be executing the search xe warrant at mar-a-lago and they specifically timed it when both donald trump and his family would be out of the state of florida. and what did donald trump do with that information? he lied and said the fbi was f coming down there to assassinate him. they were locked and loaded and ready to harm his family. those kinds of lies are designed to inspire people to perhaps violence against fbi. to put a stop to this kind of reckless violence inducing o rhetoric. >> so that is the hearing on monday. let's talk about the hearing from today. because i am trying to square that there did seem to be skepticism from judge cannon on the arguments from team trump and at the same time, she seemed really interested in
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grilling prosecutors about how closely merrick garland monitors the situation. what do you make of both pieces? >> it is not of legal significance. it is legally irrelevant. either the special council ei procedures are lawful and appropriate and they are as every court has ruled in recentu years. or they are not. and you know the first thing i thought of when i saw that she was i believe stepping a toe over the separation of powers line by beginning to ask to legally irrelevant questions that you can see how they might help donald trump paint the picture that donald trump and joe biden are more involved in his prosecution than they ought to be. the firs thing i thought of is this feels a lot like when judge cannon got involved in
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this special master. you abused your judicial discretion by doing what you did because you had no right to interfere in an ongoing doj investigation. but she did and she did it to the extreme advantage of donald trump. that has echoes of what we heard, she was probing how much interaction jack smith and merrick garland might be having. >> and glen you take it all sort of in the shadow of the new york times reporting from yesterday about how two separate judges urged her to hand this case off to someone else. you have been making this argument about cannon for a while. it is one of those things where there is a no glory in being right here. >> i would call it block buster reporting when the new york times said two federal court judges who are her colleagues
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in that federal jurisdiction including the chief judge who advised her do not preside over donald trump's case. in case anybody is interested, the judge was appointed by president george w. bush so i know how donald trump loves to label everyone an angry democrat or a rino but these days, it becomes an interest which president appointed which judge that is now seemingly at odds with donald trump. >> this question of removal. knowing that would inevitably delay this case. also, the bar he has to play are fairly high. >> yeah. i mean i think judge cannon's disqualification cup runeth over. everything she has done shows that her impartiality might reasonably be questioned which
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is the federal standard requiring the judge to disqualify themselves from the case. so i believe at some point if she continues to refuse to set a trial date even if as you mentioned in your lead-in, the defense, donald trump's lawyers said we can do august 12th. she said no. i'm setting no trial date. at what point is enough enough? >> glen, thank you very much for being with us as always. we have a lot more to come tonight. although the supreme court recently turned back one attack on reproductive freedom. anti-abortion advocates have another potent weapon ready to fire. an explanation and a warning is coming up. plus new reporting about donald trump's latest campaign moves. that is next. rump's latest camn moves. that is next. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. being so tall definitely has its advantages. oh whoa. here you go, kiddo. thanks.
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there is news today on the presidential campaign trail. donald trump has narrowed his vice presidential short list to two or three candidates. previous reporting indicated trump was focused on four potential running mates. north dakota governor doug burgham. ohio senator jd vance, florida senator marco rubio, and south carolina senator tim scott. despite a weeks long performance as a dutiful trump surrogate. trump is no longer a top contender. rubio has been a top contender but doubts about his enthusiasm for the job persisted in ways that could jeopardize his
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chances. joining us now, jonathan allen, senior national politics reporter for nbw news. so i want to point out none of this is normal. this is not a normal candidate and veepstakes. whoever he chooses is not being chosen to check his authoritarian tendencies. they are chosen because they are signing up to let him run free. >> certainly alicia, this is an unusual process. what you will see from presidential candidates is a very close to the vest process. here we see donald trump appearing everywhere with the folks. go out and ask his crowds as he did earlier this week whether they think one of the candidates in this case, jd vance ought to be on his
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ticket. certainly an unusual process. i think we all know from donald trump's experience what he said about his last vice president, mike pence, that he was disappointed that pence did not support his effort to overturn the election. and you can gather from that i think, glean from that, donald trump will be looking at that level of loyalty as a qualification. >> well, to that point, i think that is what i actually find most interesting about the sub text of your reporting here where trump has dangled the vice presidency at least the ability to run with him in front of people like tim scott. gotten people to perform with him on the campaign trail and yet that is no guarantee. and so people keep showing up. keep auditioning. and, the loyalty to him seems to be the one consistent variable. >> it's like he is dragging a 100-dollar bill across a floor on a string and seeing how fast
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the candidates can crawl and how much they will fight with each other to try to get to that 100-dollar bill. he might just pull it up with the string in the end. every time i talk to folks close to trump, they all acknowledge they are not entirely sure that the portion he will select will be one of these people. >> for him it is also about the reality tv show. we are not talking about all of his qualities as a candidate. it is balancing the desire for a running mate with non- threatening against the desire of someone who could be considered the future of trump's movement. talk to me about that tension and what it mean to be non- threatening to donald trump. >> yeah. it is an interesting sort of internal debate particularly when it comes to an heir
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apparent. whether it is good for trump. to not be in that position of hands off the torch. what is the best way to play this for the candidates and the way they are being looked at by trump in terms of not-out shining him. if you are donald trump, and you like the limelight, the thing you hate the most is the thing that takes that away from you. if you have a vice president look at as the next presidential nominee, it won't be but a year or two before that person starts getting a whole lot more attention. so we'll have to see, you know, who trump goes with and how they sort of fit into that question of the maga movement succeeding him. they believe he doesn't want someone who will compete with him for attention during his term. >> here is something you know
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well. we talk about the messaging. we talk about the debates. we talk about the optics and at the end of the day so much of this comes down to the ground campaign. but that is virtually impossible to capture. new reporting that biden has hired his 1,000th battleground staffer. the trump campaign reportedly outsourcing their tv efforts to turning point usa. what do you make of the difference of that strategy? >> i think it is borne of necessity for trump. he got on the ground later. there was an important court case. and they will need to coordinate because trump raised money slowly. he was unable to open as many offices and put as many field staff out there as he wanted to initially. so there will be some support network for him on the outside. any groups that want to help the democrats. they will be on the field. one important thing to remember here is that the ground game
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today, the supreme court upheld a federal law prohibiting domestic abusers from owning firearms. this is the second ruling in as many weeks that has many on the left breathing a very small sigh of relief. last week this conservative court unanimously ruled against restricting access against mifepristone. soon the court will decide whether states can keep
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pregnant women from receiving emergency abortion care. project 2025, big plans for the trump administration in the comstock act. the 1873 zombie law that prohibits the mailing of substances for abortion and birth control. michelle goldberg offers this morning. they say they will enforce the comstock act. believe them. jonathan f. mitchell said we don't need a federal abortion ban when we have comstock in the books. you argue that co mstock should be a household name. how do you explain it? >> first of all, maybe the one
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silver lining. this is the law from 1863, this law by the notoriously prudish anti-vice crusader who took pride on hounding people to their deaths. and imprisoning people. burning books. some of the great works of literature. but it was never repealed. people had just assumed it was a dead letter. on free speech, birth control and abortion. but when roe v. wade was overturned you start hearing from anti-abortion activists. this is still on the books. the mifepristone ruling that you mentioned.
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supreme court made the ruling on standing ground so they could still hear another case if they decide the people have standing to bring the suit. and during arguments, you had alito and thomas refer to the comstock act. often they will refer to it by its number in the criminal code. similarly, in the 2025 projects, huge blueprint for what they would want to do in a second trump administration, one of the things they say is we can enforce the comstock act. >> it strikes me to hear you are waving your hands feverishly. please everyone. pay attention to what is happening with the act. at the same time, they are reminding us a lot of folks are missing the bigger contours of what has happened here. you write about the new york times poll released last month. 70% of people polled blame joe biden for the repeal of roe
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since the ruling happened during his pregnancy. >> pregnancy? what i make of it is that there is still a huge amount of education that needs to be done, the basic workings of american government and specifically donald trump's role in the fact that we are now in this situation to begin with. people have a hard time connecting this obvious libertine, this guy who is no paragon of sexual continence. they have a hard time connecting him with this punishing regime they hate. so though he is clearly the one who did it, there is a direct connection, it is just an argument democrats need to make again and again and again. they need to make it clear this is something that could come their way. even if they live in a state that protects abortion rights
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in a second trump term. >> which is what you are seeing from democrats in the senate. senator tina smith who is someone who used to work in planned parenthood before she was in politics. that's the most important initiative democrats need to rally around. a bill to stop the act. there is a petition by the foundation for individual right and expression to have joe biden pardon one of the great victims of the comstock act. that this is a way to raise the salience and say these victorian era laws were a mistake and should not be used against people today. >> this becomes a conversation about blue states and red states and i did some reporting from an abortion clinic in
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brooklyn and how they were looking at the possibility of mifepristone being unavailable. clinics in blue states are now seeing so many more patients from states where abortion has become fully illegal. that is an impact on your care if you live in a blue state. i think part of the question in breakthrough is how you say this is coming for you. this is not happening somewhere else. >> this has been a problem, it was very hard similarly with roe v. wade. hillary clinton in 2016 would try to get people to awaken to the danger that roe v. wade could get overturned and people didn't believe it. it's funny. because americans love apocalyptic movies but in some ways they lack a catastrophic imagination. >> yet here we are. living it. michelle, thank you so much. we have a lot more to get to, the district attorney's
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it is a summer of consequences for donald trump. today, the manhattan da's office urged the judge in that case to keep portions of
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trump's gag order in place. the prosecutor cite threats against da alvin bragg. threats trump has exacerbated with his inflammatory rhetoric about seeking retribution for his conviction. of the 289 threats logged by police in 2024, 61 involved threats to da bragg, his family or employees. in 2022, prior to trump's indictment, there was only one. the timing of this gag order request is crucial. donald trump will have to answer questions about his conviction when he squares off with joe biden in the first presidential debate. joining me now, christy greenburg, former criminal prosecutor who served over a decade. thanks so much for being here, so he would be allowed to talk about witnesses. but still under protection would be da, juror, judge understanding that distinction and what you think the judge
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will rule? >> yes. so he has always been able to talk about the da and about the judge. the da says you can talk about witnesses. stormy daniels and michael cohen, he can respond to them now. but still a threat to the jurors because there are, there's reporting which is actually cited by da bragg that people are trying to identify these jurors and threatening violence against them. that doesn't go away because the trial is over. there are threats against the court staff. their families and the da really went into some detail about just how many threats there were. of the 61 threats those happened during the trial. they are hard for prosecutors. i can't imagine the stress that
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this team had. and to do it with such vile and serious threats and those 56 threats were the ones that nypd investigated and said these are actionable. we need to take further steps. there were 500 other threatening emails and calls that didn't even rise to that level. it is just an onslaught of harassment that these prosecutors were dealing with during such a high pressure cooker trial. it is extraordinary the public service they provided to us under the circumstances. >> i also thought it was interesting that they used the filing to respond to trump's accusation that da bragg is somehow working with president biden so trump doesn't have his full free speech at the debate writing quote defendant offers no factual basis for this assertion and there is none. the claim is a lie. evergreen when it comes to some of these trump conspiracy theories. but but the fact they needed to
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address it here? >> i'm glad they did. when something is so plainly a lie, call it what it is. don't use flowery language. it is a lie. it is one of many lies donald trump has been telling and alvin bragg is very careful. he is somebody who does not give press conferences. he is not outside the courtroom talking to the press. he speaks through his briefing through the court filings as he should. this was his opportunity to be able to address this particular attack which has changed so much of the course of public speaking on this. people think this is a political prosecution. and being in the trial every day, i can tell you it wasn't. and so this was his opportunity to respond to that. >> help me understand what happens if trump violates his gag order thursday at the presidential debate. >> if he violates his gag order, i don't think the prosecutors will say let's have a hearing about a violation of gag order. >> does it change the judge's thinking at all? >> it should and i think it
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will factor into his sentencing because the da will say look, he is continuing to not show any respect for the law. there is blatant disregard for the law here and that happened during the trial and it is continuing even after a guilty verdict. that is powerful for the judge. he didn't follow my court orders how is he going to follow the rules of probation if he continues to violate even after the guilty verdict? >> i have one minute left that you cannot answer in a minute. a judge dismissed the fake elector's case in nevada over a lack of jurisdiction. what does that mean? >> it was dismissed as a venue issue. the judge said these are charges that deal with forging the fake elector certificates. and that didn't happen in the county where the prosecutors brought the case. you have to charge the case where the crimes were actually committed so it is a
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technicality. the good news is even if that is accurate, that shouldn't affect any of the other states fake elector cases. this is a very specific to this case ruling. >> i appreciate that after the trump years, myself, our audience all know about venue. we went to a crash course in law school. thank you so much for being with us. coming up, the last time donald trump came to philadelphia was to unveil his signature gold sneakers. now he is headed back to the democratic stronghold to try to win over voters. more on that next. ers. more on that next. leaffilter is a permanent gutter solution, so, you never have to worry about costly damage from clogged gutters again. it's the easiest call you can make. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com. ( ♪♪ )
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for years now, donald trump has largely avoided the city of philadelphia. this is such a democratic stronghold. he has never held a rally there. that is until tomorrow. tomorrow, trump heads to philadelphia for his first ever rally in the city. a rally that. cos weeks after the trump campaign opened their first philadelphia campaign office.
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so what is trump's angle here? joining me now, a state representative from pennsylvania and a member of the biden harris campaign's national advisory board. sir, good to see you. >> good to see you! >> why philly, why now? >> you know what? i think a part of what we have to address always, the stakes. this year will determine what the next few decades look like. and i think there has been this false bs narrative that trump is courting black voters. look at what happened in detroit. they didn't even attempt to fill the room with black folks. then he left that church to go hang out with charlie kirk who said martin luther king was a bad guy and that the civil rights act, who knows if that was a bad idea. he sends in byron donald who starts opining about how much he loved jim crow. this is about showing up with
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impunity to places that he has spent his entire career trying to undermine. saying he wasn't going to rent to black tenants. he spent his entire presidency doing everything he could to undermine key accomplishments not just of the obama administration, but key things that helped to support working families all across pennsylvania like trying to get rid of the affordable care act, trying to undermine social security. and medicare and medicaid. and so, bringing his vile racist vitriol to a black neighborhood is not reaching out to black voters. >> how much of it do you think, i get your point exactly that it is about the appearance. how much of that is about black constituencies and how much of it is about creating a permission structure for those whose final reservation about donald trump might be that he is racist? >> listen. i don't even really think it is
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about the appearance. >> you think i'm too deep? >> i think this is about putting his thumb in the face of black voters. he thinks that black voters, and i think he thinks a lot of americans are idiots. he thinks he can come in and try to take advantage of black people and black voters like we have amnesia. black voters have not forgotten donald trump's failed presidency. let me put it this way. showing up to the link in a cowboys jersey does not mean you are trying to reach out to eagles fans. you can come to a place where black people are. but bringing his same nonsense, racist bigoted rhetoric? black folks hear him very clearly and i'm telling you, black voters ended his presidency in north philly and we will make sure he never gets back to the white house. >> i appreciate about you that you broke through the nose to give me signal because this is not about the odds of this race. this is about the stakes of this race. so when you were having
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conversations with voters in pennsylvania or elsewhere about the stakes in this race, what is it that you tell them about joe biden and kamala harris you find most resonates for them? >> listen, every election, every election folks are running for office to wield a tool because every elected position is just a tool. and so the question always is what do these candidates want to build? joe biden and kamala harris have been clear about building an economy where working families like mine don't spend every day feeling shaky. they feel secure. they are stable because they know they have access to good health care. access to the benefits they deserve on the job. they know their kids will go to a good school. and that when those kids get out into the work force, they are able to do things like buy their first home. donald trump's entire reason for running for president is trying to avoid criminal liability for all the crimes that he committed. a jury in this city here in new york said 34 times that he is guilty. voters in north philly said
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donald trump's famous line to him you're fired. we're going to say we are not rehiring somebody with this bad of an exit interview and somebody who has been so dismissive and disrespectful to black voters. and so, sure, show up to north philly. we will give him the type of welcome that he deserves. >> let me ask you about another candidate. rfk jr. turned in enough petition signatures to get on the pennsylvania ballot. >> who is that? >> does that scramble the race? you want the let your face do the talking? >> listen, i have not spent a lot of time with this side show candidate who is funded by the same donors who are pushing donald trump. his entire reason for being in the race is to try to siphon votes from president biden but he will not be successful because people are not stupid.
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pennsylvania voters and americans in general, folks just want to know their families will be okay. they want to know when they look in their kids eyes they are not telling them a lie when they tell them life will be a little better for them than it was when they were growing up and joe biden has laid out a plan and has achieved things that make it easier for working families to feel more stable. less insecure. donald trump is in this for himself. and he is going to have a rude awakening in november. >> malcolm from the great state of pennsylvania. thank you so much for being with us. pennsylvania state house representative member of the biden harris campaign's national advisory board. that is ore show tonight. you can catch me this weekend on my regular show the weekend. i need to go to bed now. our guest tomorrow, maryland governor rising democratic star wes moore. now is the time for the last word. for the last word. the other person up bright and early tomorrow. >> i have a lo

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