now today's other top story. chicago's famed buckingham fountain is closed until further notice after it was vandalized overnight. vandals dyed the grant park's landmark's water red. a ground breaking for the new complex that will replace the degree of life synagog in pittsburgh. the synagog closed in 2018 after 11 worshipers were murdered in the deadliest act of anti-semitism in u.s. history. doug emhoff joined senators at

the event. the plans include worship space, the nation's first museum focusing on anti- semitism, and a memorial for the victims. mcdonald's highly anticipated $5 meal deal kicks off on tuesday. the deal is in response to dropping sales and customer complaints about the rise in the cost of fast food. what days the supreme court could finally rule on donald trump's immunity, and live from los angeles, my hometown, get ready america, next week is going to be nuts. a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. at the top of the hour, we welcome you to "alex witt reports." we begin with decision 2024, and a looming and historic debate just four days away. former president trump and current president biden set to go face-to-face for 90 minutes in what's described as a

rematch with great risks and greater rewards, as each side tried to framework the other and calibrate expectations. >> how should i handle him? should i be tough and nasty and just say you're the worst president in history? or should i be nice and calm, and let him speak? >> it really doesn't matter how donald trump shows up. if he comes in unhinged like he is most of the time, or he sits there and is quiet, people are going to know that he's a twice impeached convicted felon who's been found to have defamed somebody, sexually assaulted somebody. >> signaling the president will bring up trump's conviction during the debate. also new today, the biden camp outlining its plans for the debate, and saying it will hold 300 watch parties. during the following days, the president will hit swing states

to rally voters. donald trump has narrowed his choice of vice president running mate to three. we have reporters in place, covering all the new d developments for us. what are we hearing in strategy ahead of the big debate? >> reporter: just four days left until we see president biden face off against former president trump for the first time in four years on the debate stage. we now president biden has been deep in these sessions led by his chief of staff, ron klain. he's leaning on the expertise of some of those closest to him. closest campaign staffers who are all helping him pour over this policy material to better prepare him to be able to draw this contrast between what a

second biden, and a second trump presidency would look like. he's also pouring over possible attack lines that he could use against former president trump, to prepare for what we really expect to be the inevitable. those unscripted moments. those personal jabs from former president trump, in which we expect him to attack president biden on his age, his mental fitness. the last days we saw former president trump mock president biden. he suggested the president would use substances to improve his debate performance. the biden campaign really sees this as an opportunity to engage those voters who haven't been tuned in to this election so far, specifically young voters. we heard from michael tyler on msnbc this morning. >> i do think one think that

might be slightly overlooked here is how the campaign is using this to engage with the biden/harris coalition. you mentioned it at the top. but this is a moment where an increasing slice of the electorate is going to begin to tune into the presidential race. so we see it as an opportunity for our growing grassroots army to engage directly with the people in their networks. >> reporter: the biden team, as you mentioned, releasing this memo this morning, talking about more than a thousand events they're going to be hosting across battleground states across the country, as well as some new digital ads and on social media, in the days up to this debate, alex. >> thank you for the latest, allie raffa. let's bring in jake taylor right now. what are we hearing from former president trump as he prepares for thursday. >> reporter: alex, we have officially entered into debate week. all eyes will be on that stage this upcoming thursday, but before then, we're trying to

get perspective, and understanding of what those actual preparations are looking like. now i spoke with the former president yesterday at a campaign stop in philadelphia, and i asked him what that preparation is looking like. he pointed around to the supporters that were gathered around him saying this, this is my debate prep, engaging with supporters. we know from our own reporting, that trump's debate prep has been pretty unconventional. his campaign says he's been hosting these policy sessions, that include also potential vp picks. last night, we saw trump talk about the debate at the rally. what he chose to do was criticizing president biden for actually preparing for the debate in a regulatory way, and really tampering expectations before he even takes the stage on thursday. just take a listen. >> will anybody be watching the debate on thursday night?

no, i'm shocked. they've taken so much fun out of it. there's no audience. they actually wanted us to sit down. i said look, i really want to do this thing. you know, they gave me -- what happened is they gave me that something that couldn't be accepted. they gave me an offer i couldn't accept and i said i'll do it. >> reporter: now alex, there were really three key takeaways from my conversation with the former president yesterday. one, former president trump told me he has selected his vice president. he says only in his mind does he know. secondly, he says only he knows. thirdly, trump told me he will bring that vp pick to the debate. now, we actually won't know who that person is yet. trump says he'll announce it, a lot closer to the republican national convention come mid- july. but come thursday, all eyes will be on this debate in

atlanta. >> good scoop though. at least we know that he knows. very interesting, jake traylor. joining me now, sarah jacobs. it's good to see you. so welcome to the show. this debate, it is the earliest one in u.s. history. how crucial is thursday's rematch for president biden to lay out the focus of his campaign? >> reporter: i'm really looking forward to the debate on thursday. i think it will be an incredible opportunity for president biden to talk about his forward looking positive agenda for the future, and also make sure that voters really understand the amazing accomplishments that he was able to do in his first term. you know, canceling over 160 billion-dollars worth of student debt. 15million jobs created. the biggest investment in climate change ever. the first gun violence prevention legislation since i was in elementary school, and actual infrastructure package that is investing billions of

dollars into our american infrastructure and economy. these are the kinds of things that he's going to be able to highlight. and you're going to see that compared to, you know, donald trump's very dark vision of the future, where he said he wants to be a dictator on day one, and where he's going to use the very leavers of power against people who he believe has wronged him. >> look, you're going to be watching. i'm going to be watching. but how much do you think your constituents or the greater general public will be paying attention this early in the process? >> i spoke with a senior campaign spokesperson for joe biden, and she made the point, four and a half months still until the election, is a long time for americans to stay engaged. >> you know, it is early, and i know a lot of my constituents are still dealing with the day- to-day of their lives. figuring out which summer camps they're going to be able to send each of their kids to. you know, all the day-to-day life. but i do think there are a lot of americans who are focused,

because they know this election is incredibly important and really is going to determine the future of our country and the future of our rights, especially as women. >> let's move to today, prime minister netanyahu who repeated disputed claims that the u.s. was withholding weapons from israel. saying there was a drop in the armaments arriving from the u.s. to israel. he said after asking for weeks for shipments, he decided to go public with it. white house officials are baffled by his statements. but i'm curious, given your position on committees, what do you know about this? does the prime minister have any legitimate concerns? >> it's very clear to me that prime minister netanyahu is trying to politicize the u.s./israel relationship. and its solely focused on his own position of power, and not actually what's in the best interest of israel or the united states. i applauded president biden's

decision to withhold the 2,000- pound bombs. those have been the weapons we've seen being used to create a lot of destruction and civilian harm. we have existing u.s. law and policy that says that we have to review how our partners and allies use the weapons we send. there has actually -- beyond those 2,000 bombs, there's no merit to what prime minister netanyahu is saying. >> so thursday's debate then, it offers president biden his biggest audience in his debate. is there something he can say to clear up this dispute over weapons supply, without enraging pro-palestinian supporters. >> i think it will be incredibly important for president biden to lay out his proactive agenda. he has laid out a cease-fire plan that will end this war, that will get humanitarian assistance in. that will get the hostages out. that's what everyone in the u.s. government has been

working tirelessly to try to get to. and i think it's important that he shows that he has a plan, not only for how to end this war, but actually for how to build a future where palestinians and israelis can live in peace and dignity, and autonomy. and frankly, i know that will only be possible if president biden gets reelected, because we know that's not something that trump is at all interested in. >> all right, but benjamin netanyahu will be addressing that joint session next month, and the white house might be a little nervous about what he will be saying, because there are suggestions netanyahu would prefer donald trump to be in power. are you going to attend? >> i will not be attending. you know, i think this is straight out of prime minister netanyahu's playbook. we saw him do the exact same thing to president biden in

2015 about the iran deal. prime minister netanyahu is politicizing the u.s./israel relationship and is weaponizing jewish pain in a very dangerous way. as a jewish american, i was always taught the importance of repairing the world in my tradition, to me, that means doing everything we can to actually get to peace, to actually get to two states for two people to actually get to a cease-fire and the hostages back and humanitarian assistance in. and you know, it seems very clear to me that prime minister netanyahu is not working towards those goals. >> let me switch gears and ask you about tomorrow, the landscape for abortion access has been dramatically altered. abortion is nearly competely banned in 14 republican controlled states.

president biden and former president trump are campaigning on abortion. >> we know that if republicans have the house, the senate, and the president say, they will pass a federal abortion ban. that means even in a state like california, where i represent, and alex, where you're from, where right now abortion is protected, that means a federal abortion ban would override those state rules. it would mean that even in california, we wouldn't have a right to abortion. that's why it's so important that we reelect president biden. i know democrats, we're going to pass a law that would codify roe v. wade. >> trump is leaning into his message after overturning roe v. wade, that it should be up to states to decide. so could trump's message then be he's leaving it up to the

states and would that weaken the democrats' message? >> we know that this is a thing republicans like to say. but i try and judge people by what they do, not what they say. republicans have already introduced legislation federally. they've increased legislation that would create a federal fetal position standardhood, which would risk access to idf and birth control. we've already seen what these republican states are doing, where we're seeing women having to bleed out in the hospital before they're able to get seen. where we're seeing women actually having terrible complications, sometimes even death, because they can't get access to the healthcare that they need. so we already know that they want a federal abortion ban. they've already introduced it, and that's what they're working to prevent. >> okay, my fellow californian

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breaking news. on the brutal heat wave that has been scorching a huge swath of the country for six consecutive days in this first weekend of summer, 95 million of us are under heat alerts.

in baltimore, the mercury shot up to 101 degrees. it is the highest on that date in more than 25 years. today the humidity in many cities making it feel even hotter with the height indexes reaching well into the triple digits. joining me now from washington, d.c., where it's currently a very steamy 96 degrees. it's gone up a degree in the last hour, my friend. poor gary is suffering it out there. you've got those fountains and pools near you. but are you getting any of that misty water heading your way? >> reporter: there is perhaps no better place to be. because it does feel all 96 degrees of that heat today. we've been playing around with this infrared thermometer today. inside my car, it was 160 degrees. here on the surface, it is 102. so a few degrees higher than actually it is outside, which just means, alex, using common sense is so important.

like putting shoes on, before you go in surfaces. drinking water. always checking your backseat before you leave your car. folks here in d.c. are certainly finding a way to enjoy themselves on this hot day. here's what a few folks had to say. >> i've been in d.c. for a long time, so i'm pretty used to this. i'm pretty used to the humidity. you just find a pool, and you relax, and have a good time. that's all you can do, right? >> what are you doing at the pool today? anything fun? >> yeah, maybe some cannonballs and diving. >> excellent. well have fun. >> reporter: and it is not just the humans here in washington, d.c. that are suffering and enjoying the water and the heat here. it is the animals up at the maryland zoo in baltimore. have a look at this video here. we've got video of elephants, and video of otters enjoying themselves in this heat. enjoying themselves in the water, and getting a little treat from an ice cube. everyone's finding a way to stay cool on days like this, alex. >> wait, can you just one more

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[ grunts ] [ laughs ] new insight into president biden's preparations ahead of thursday's debate with former president trump. biden engaging in intense rehearsals at camp david. along with new tv and digital ads meant to reenergize its base. the biden campaign also giving a preview of the rematch and what they expect from their opponent. >> the issue for donald trump is not going to be his demeanor on the debate stage. the problem for donald trump is going to be everything that actually comes out of his mouth. because we've seen since he lost the 2020 election and

snapped, he's become even more unhinged, more extreme, the things he's talking about doing are even wilder than what we last saw when he last held power. >> joining me now, mark ludavich, the staff writer. mark is also the author of the book, thank you for your servitude, donald trump's washington and the price of submission. the "new york times" describes the debate as a rematch with even greater risks and rewards. what is the greatest risk and reward for each candidate? >> reporter: you know, it's true in terms of like, we have, you know, very low expectations, so i think that the reward can be exceeding those low expectations right? i think the real risk is how poor the interest is in this debate. i think americans really feel

like they know these candidates, people usually don't change their minds based on debates. i think this is mainly going to be a lot of heat and light for us pundits who haven't had a lot to talk about, except for of course, you know, policy, like the fact that abortion would be even more banned under trump, and we'd get more rights or continuing to try and make incremental advances on those rights under biden. so i don't know if it really matters that much outside punditry for these folks. i think that people's minds are pretty set about who these guys are, and while a true screw up could ruin everything, they're both at risk for really, really screwing up, i mean, let's face it. they're going to be just themselves. >> what about your take, mark? do you think the debate is being over-hyped? >> reporter: maybe a little bit. i mean, we don't have much else

going on. we have conventions coming up next month. this is -- it's new for everyone, because there have not been debates in june before. the earliest general election debate we've had, at least that i can remember. that's kind of a twist to the system here. i do think both of these candidates are absolutely known. there's not a fresh face among them. to some degree, maybe it will be able to solidify things. i do think because donald trump is not in office right now, and he hasn't gotten enough attention, or he never gets enough attention, but because he will be front and center, which is where he wants to be, it's a reminder of everyone how in your face he is, and how dominant he is when he's part of a story like this. i think the notion of people getting sick of donald trump all over again is always, i think a danger for him. but look, the element of surprise in the debate is really the x factor, and that's what i think everyone's waiting

to see. no one really knows what's going to happen. >> ann marie, then, for those of us who do want to watch it, i know you both are included, as am i, what issue should biden be hitting the hardest? i know he's going to touch on abortion, donald trump has also made threats to democracy, and biden has made that a tenant of his campaign. but what about the friday headlines, even if they only last a day, what does biden want them to say? >> reporter: i don't know if the threats to democracy point is the one that really grabs people. it grabs us. it grabs us who work in the fourth estate, because it hits close to home. so i think the coverage of that kind of talk will be very hot. as terms of getting people interested, i do think, hitting the abortion issue, y'all know me, it hits very close to home here in texas. i don't know if he can hit it

hard enough. i think also bringing up the chaos of a trump administration. we all know it's kind of intimately tied, but i think what we saw when he was in office, and how much we felt destabilized by that is something really good to hit on. i also think -- i'm thinking about what we were just talking about, this is really the time for them to step on their own -- you know, to hang themselves by their own in this case. if both made huge screw ups on this stump, and i think for either of them to have a moment, a month that an older person might have when under a lot of stress, for either of them to make that kind of error, i think could drive coverage, the next day, and far beyond. because again, that's something

that we in the punditry like to talk about, whether these two gentlemen are perhaps a little above the age where we would expect them to make a dynamic president. >> you think, if they do a good job, okay, fine. but if something happens with the screw up, that's going to be the big focus. what about the prep, mark? president biden is doing camp david, rigorous training there. president trump is saying that the rallies, the campaigning are the best way for him to prep, what do you think? >> reporter: i do think joe biden thinks he has to do more. meaning he has to really heighten, not only the contrast, but also the criminality of donald trump. the menace of donald trump compared to even where he was three or four years ago. that's been a center of the message going into the debate. i do think there's a bit of an asymmetrical warfare going on

here, because donald trump does not really play by a lot of rules. he's going to say things that would disqualify a lot of presidential candidates in history, if not all of them, and he's going can to be given a pass by his supporters, because he has a great deal of loyalty by his supporters. joe biden is playing to a different standard, because he frankly creates it for himself, because he is someone who is capable of shame and embarrassment, and holds the responsibility of the office he now serves in. he's going to by nature have a bigger burden of what his super ego is capable of. in that sense, he could easily get caught up in all that he can say, and can't say, and so forth. i do think at the end of the day, both sides are going to play it fairly safe.

>> you're even saying that donald trump -- >> can i go very quick? >> yeah, go. >> reporter: i also think that his voters hold him to a higher standard, which is something we should probably celebrate, and the fact that trump can say just about everything and his voters will still support him is one of the reasons kind of we're in the place we are. he only needs to give one message about retribution, about white supremacy, about the hoards of all the languages he uses about people who cross the border. as long as he holds that semi- fascist position, his voters will turn up for him. and biden has voters who care about more things. that forces him to balance more things. i also think reporters hold biden to higher standards. this is a case that, it's

unfair. it's asymmetrical, as mark said. >> i was going to say, it's like if donald trump does mess up, he and his supporters will be like, so what, and move on. let me ask you about the veep stakes though, mark. because trump says privately he's made his veep choice. top contenders are, as we know, doug burgum,jd vance, senator marco rubio is also being considered. who do you think is his likely choice? and is it all about who donald trump sees as being the most loyal to him? >> reporter: that's certainly a huge part of the job. first of all, i don't have any insight into his thinking on this, and he's saying he didn't tell anyone anyways. i would say loyalty is one thing. i think he probably doesn't want someone who is going to overshadow him in any way.

and i think beyond loyalty, it's just complete sycophancy that he craves. mike pence was up to the job, at least until the bitter end. look, i don't know, he obviously has a lot of calculations. a lot of it is just very shallow, and who looks good in pictures. i'm always sort of amused when people treat it as news as donald trump says he has made up his mind, and everyone goes scrambling like oh, what has he made up his mind about. unless he changes it, we won't really know until the day he announces it. >> do you have a sense on who is the best for electoral purposes for him, or does it matter really with donald trump? because he's such a heavy footprint, that's put it that way, on this ticket. >> reporter: the only thing he can do is something like really wrong. i'm not even sure what that would be. i think that it is going to be a balance between the central casting aspect, and like someone not overshadowing him,

and also being enough of a behind kisser, right? let's say. i think -- i just think there's a non-zero chance that he televises the pick. that he actually creates a boardroom, a la the apprentice, and has the three of them sit in front of him and tells two of them that they're fired. that's the kind of thing that he thinks about. i bet he's pitched that to his people. i'm 100% sure he's pitched that to his people. they may have been able to swat it down. >> i have the author of this new book, the apprentice in wonderland, he says donald trump is going on about this veep process, to your point, just like it was an episode on the apprentice. it's exactly the way he's running things in his mind. can i ask you mark, do you want to give me a headline for friday morning? do you see how that might go? >> reporter: headline for friday morning. the debates have happened. we have one down, one to go.

no, i think it will be -- look, like any debate in the social media world, it's going to be a whole bunch of noise and a whole bunch of spin. now it just happens with such incredible volume and velocity so quickly. you know, it will probably take a few days for whatever impressions are created, if any, it will solidify a little bit. yeah, so i'm ducking on that one. i don't really know. >> that's okay, i'll still have you back. both of you. thank you guys, good to see you. it's going to happen in washington next month. why some people are worried about it already. from your pits to your- (sfx: deoderant being sprayed) secret whole body deodorant.

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new today, israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, repeating his claims that the u.s. has deliberatery slowed down their delivery of weapons in the war against hamas. the biden administration officials called the comments

unproductive, and untrue. the spat, prompting some officials to worry netanyahu could use his address to a joint session of congress next month to criticize president biden for not supporting israel enough in the war. joining me now is deputy spokesperson jolenea porter. jolenea, welcome to you. netanyahu's message last week, accusing the u.s. of depriving israel of weapons, that sparked an uproar with both the white house as well as his critics in israel. could this effect any resolution to the war in gaza? >> reporter: alex, thank you for having me. as far as the impetus as to why he's making these pretty egregious accusations, we don't have a reason for that exactly. these accusations are false. i think back in the beginning of this war in october, the united states has continued to

walk the talk and making sure that israel has had everything it needs to make sure it defends itself. we have rushed billions upon billions of dollars in military and security assistance to israel. secretary blinken himself has been to the region about eight times since the start of the war. so this act of defiance, or these blanket statements that netanyahu is making, it's a deviation from what is typically the behind the scenes negotiation from the beginning of the war. >> given the fact that he's decided to go rogue, if you will, and speak publicly about these things, what do you expect netanyahu will say to congress next month? do you think he could use this platform with the republican lawmakers who will be in the audience? >> reporter: i agree. i absolutely think netanyahu has gone rogue and he will use this platform to address a joint session of congress to be

even a little more unhinged. i will also go off and say it may be history repeating itself, if we go back to about ten years ago, when he came here, and more infamously, circumvented the white house and gave a not so steale slight stealthy slight to then president biden. i think we'll see the same thing then, obviously we have about a month's time between now and the speech, and we've only had a few congressional leaders on both sides being very candid saying they are going to boycott this speech, even though all four of our congressional leaders did sign off on this invitation. it's just an opportunity for some of these members to show that, you know, and something that i often say, two things can be true at the same time. i think in this case, you will have members who boycott, who have strong support for israel's security, and they also have strong support for ending the global fight against anti-semitism, and rightly so. at the same time, though, some

of these people who may protest this speech next month just don't support netanyahu as a individual, and they don't support what he's done to prolong this war. >> so this week, as you know, andrew miller, a state department official, and skeptic of the biden administration's support for the war in gaza has resigned. it comes after frustration inside the administration about the humanitarian crisis in gaza, and concerns that u.s. policy has been dominated by a circle of president biden's closest advisers. do you think there will be similar resignations as the war drags on? >> reporter: well listen, i'll go from the very beginning and say i certainly hope this is the end of the last resignation that we've seen. at least throughout the end of the year. obviously, after andrew follows

about a handful of other senior officials across the national security workforce from the agency, i think it's challenging because here it really underscores the need for us to continue to have a strong and diverse national security workforce and something secretary blinken has said, diversity and makes us stronger. i hope we don't see any resignations from now through at least november. >> can i ask you about russian president vladimir putin who has signed this mutual defense pact with kim jong un and pyongyang. what does it say to you, and how that could threaten its allies? the u.s. allies? >> reporter: well listen, i'll say it's certainly unsettling to see what's a burgeoning bro-

mance between two of the world's top dictators come into even greater fruition through this partnership they have. but at the same time, i'll say it comes to no surprise. the united states has long kept tracking the destabilizing nature and rhetoric coming from both countries, but i think the best thing to do in this case is what the united states has continued to do, which is to underscore and support and strengthen our partnerships throughout the indo-pacific who have the same regional goals of peace and stability as well. >> okay jalina, porter, come see me again.

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wealth gap is narrowing, and black household wealth is up. black voters cannot be taken for granted, and i like the fact that the biden/harris campaign is not taking black voters for granted. this idea that black voters will just show up is wrong- headed, and i believe that joe biden understands that. kamala harris certainly understands it. >> senator raphael warnock there, highlighting the plan to ramp up outreach of african american voters, as president biden and donald trump approach the first presidential debate on thursday. joining me now, charles coleman, who he saw did that interview yesterday. he's a former brooklyn prosecutor, and now a civil rights attorney, the host of the charles coleman podcast. his msnbc special is black men in america, the road to 2024. so charles, trump often claims he's doing well with african american voters, but then there's some headlines that are suggesting otherwise. is it too early to assess which

way the majority of black voters are leaning? >> reporter: well, alex, i think the context is everything. when you're having this conversation about where the black vote is going, particularly the vote around black men, it's important to understand there is not a concern, or there shouldn't be a concern for the biden administration or for the public for that matter that the vast majority of black voters in the electorate are going to switch their vote to donald trump. that is not what we're having a conversation about. it is however important to understand that while president biden does maintain over 50%, well over 50% of supporfrom the african american community, the amount of people that he had in his favor in 2020 is vastly up as compared to where it is now. that number has gone down. that's where the concern lies. it's not as though trump is going to lead joe biden in the number of black votes that he gets. it's the fact that a number of votes that he can siphon away, or at least a level of apathy

that he can hope to inject into the race could create a problem for the biden campaign. >> yeah, so i was going to ask, even just a little bit in a really tight race as expected, that it would be, can't that make a difference? >> it absolutely can. particularly when you're talking about swing states. this is not a game of having a conversation around the popular election. what we're talking about electoral college votes that come down to certain precincts and certain swing states. that's how tight of a margin we're talking about. that should be the concern for both of the campaigns when we're talking about the black vote, and particulary black men and how that factors in. it's in these swing states, in those margins where this election could potentially be turned for one candidate or the other. >> so what do you think each candidate needs to say during the debate on thursday?

>> i think donald trump is taking on a space where he will speak to whoever will listen. i expect him to make some generalizations and general appeals to how attractive of a candidate he can be to the black community, but i don't expect him to spend a lot of time on that. i do think joe biden will lean into his support from another term of office from black voters who helped put them there in the first time, i do think he's going to try to talk about donald trump's record when he was president, and afterwards, not only from a policy perspective, but also from a personal perspective about who he has shown himself to be to the black community. i expect both candidates to address it, but in different ways, at different times. >> trump has tried to claim a shared frustration with the african american community over an unfair justice system, trying to get himself like a

sort of street cred, if you will. has that picked up any traction? >> it hasn't, alex, because it's a racist idea. what you're doing is you are thumbing your noise in their face. you're talking about inequities in the criminal justice that you believe as the former president of the united states of america, someone who is a multimillion dollar real estate mogul who has had access to the top. you cannot talk about inequities within the justice system with people like me and people who look like me, because you're coming from a place of privilege and a platform that is simply unreachable, and unattainability, and you really don't know what you're talking about. but beyond that, you're running for president, yike talking about how the criminal justice system has misread you and done

you wrong. what policy are you coming to the table for, or based on your experience have you chosen to fix this criminal justice system that you now suddenly discovered was two tiered so that it works the same way for everyone? we haven't heard anything from donald trump on that point. there is nothing substantive that we have seen yet come forward from his campaign that suggests that this is really something that he's saying in sincerity. >> all right, very good point you make right there. all of them are in fact. our friend charles coleman. for all of you, you can catch charles in his special, black men in america, the road to 2024, it is now streaming on peacock. in our next hour, the donald trump veep-stakes. the short list. we are going to see more broken records today, and it's not just humans who have to cope. animals are feeling the heat too. fortunately, though, there's more than just water hoses to help them.

>> most of them have fans that they can go sit under. we'll leave exhibits. we'll leave our habitats open so that way animals can go inside if they need to cool down. so there's lots of things we can do for them.

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