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biden and former president trump will square off in their first debate of the 2024 cycle. president biden has spent the weekend prepping with trusted advisers. we will speak to his deputy campaign managers shortly about new details we are learning about their eight week strategy. former president trump, meanwhile, has been holding rallies, some supposedly aimed at african-american voters, though his overall message can sometimes be difficult to discern. two candidates face a similar challenge. how they sway voters at this late date amongst the electorate . joining me now is biden 2024 deputy campaign manager linton fowlkes. thank you for joining us. i know your team is very busy this weekend as president biden

gears up for a debate. vice president kamala harris sat down for an exclusive interview. the entire interview will air tomorrow on morning joe. i want to play a clip where vp harris talks about the stakes of this election. take a listen. >> i would ask people to really imagine what the world will be like on january 20th. 2025. on one hand, you have joe biden, who has spent his life and career fighting for the well-being of other people, including healthcare. on the other hand, you have the former president, who spent full-time when he was president trying to get rid of the affordable care act. which, if he is successful as president again, mean over 100 million people would be stripped of healthcare coverage.

on the one hand, we have joe biden, who under his leadership, bipartisan support for the first meaningful bipartisan gun legislation in 30 years, and on the other hand, the former president when, who when speaking of survivors of rightist gun violence says, get over it, and we will proudly talk about to the nra about how he did nothing on the issue. and i could go on and on. i think the debate is going to make clear the contrast between our president, the current president, who works on behalf of the american people, fights for the american people, and the former president who spends full-time fighting for himself. >> what is your reaction to what the vice president had to say? >> i think the vice president summed it up perfectly. this is going to be a contrast of visions that americans are going to see on the debate stage. one for president biden where he is fighting to protect freedom and rights, and president trump who pledges to be on a dictator on day one, ripping up reproductive freedom

for women in this country and continues to promote and express political violence himself. i think americans are going to see that in prime time on the debate stage this thursday. >> tomorrow, your campaign will kickoff a week of efforts to amplify the messages from the debate. these include traditional tv advertising, surrogates, and social media creators. debate watch parties and observation tomorrow of the second anniversary of the supreme court's dobbs decision overturning roe v wade. talk about why these events surrounding the event are so critical. >> look, reverend, voters -- it's a priority of this campaign that they have in front of them ways to be able to see the contrasting vision that the vice president laid out that i mentioned in my first answer here tonight. our campaign is doing everything we can to make sure we are getting in front of these voters where they are and

communicating with them. we are very proud of our robust efforts. we just opened over 300 offices. meanwhile, we see none of that on the trump side of the ledger. but it's really important we do this so that american voters were tuning in see the vision, one of revenge, resentments, and violence under donald trump, and one were president biden and vice president harris are fighting for the every single day. >> one of the goals of the debate is to draw a contrast between these two men. and what they hope to accomplish in a second term. that means listening to president biden, but also listening to trump, because he has a lot to say. much of it is so ridiculous, it is tempting to tune him out. here's something trump said last night in philadelphia while supposedly reaching out to black voters. >> i said, dana. dana. i have an idea for you to make a lot of money.

you are going to go and start a new migrant fight league. migrants. only migrants. and then at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion, and i hate to tell you, dana, i think the migrants might win. that's how tough they are. >> we don't know what version of donald trump will show up at the debate thursday, and if it is this one, how does president biden respond to something like that? >> reverend, i think president biden has got to have the conversation and take it directly to trump that -- that clip you just saw is demoralizing. it's dehumanizing. donald trump has spent his entire career, his entire life demoralizing people because that's the only way he sees to be able to lift himself up, is punching down on the most vulnerable. we have seen him in his approach to immigration,

putting kids in cages. this is an about solving immigration. it's not about being tough on the border. it's a dog whistle. and president biden is going to call him out on that. he has no real policies. his policies are anti-american. that is not who we are, and president biden is going to make sure that he reinforces that on the stage. it's clear that donald trump does not care about anybody but himself. he will do anything it takes, including break the law, to make sure he gets what he wants. i think that's a contrast that voters will see play out on the stage. >> nbc news caught up with former president trump in philadelphia. he said he knows in his mind who his vice presidential pick will be, and they will be at the debate on thursday. now, in nbc news as previously reported, the field has narrowed down to senators jd vance and marco rubio, as well as north dakota governor doug burgum. it does not seem as though any women or african americans are still being considered. in the

biden campaign perspective, how much does trump's vp pick matter in this race? >> it's not shocking that there's no african-americans, no women being considered, given who the candidate is. but it does not matter to us donald trump's vp pick is or who he selects. at the end of the day, donald trump is a narcissist. he only wants someone who will stand by his side and placate him, and they're going to stand on the same divisive agenda that donald trump is promoting. one of political violence, one of ripping away freedoms in this country, where they continue to dehumanize and demoralize black and brown people across the country and the globe. regardless of the donald trump pics, our outcome and approach is going to be the same because we are fighting against of the same thing. it's maga extremism at the worst . were going to make sure we draw that contrast against donald trump himself and the vice president looks forward to drying that contrast to whoever he picks for the eventual vp

nominee. >> quentin, you are one of the heads of the campaign, or deputy campaign manager, and you are also obviously a black man, and we all know you. how do you look at these black rallies that trump has -- had? detroit, yesterday. philly. these are mostly white audiences that are called black rallies. >> i think it is demeaning. but again, i was going to say the same thing. black people have to show up for these to be black rallies, and trump continues to further were black on things because he thinks that it will somehow fixed his problem. at the end of the day, we are very clear. the african-american committee knows who donald trump is. the only one who went up for was anxiety. donald trump left african- americans more uninsured. he left the more unemployed, and he continues to double

down. he continues to say hateful things and have racist dog whistles across his campaign, and we are going to do everything we can to make sure we are talking to americans not just about the vision that president biden and vice president harris have for black americans, but the destruction that trump brought to black america and that he will continue to bring. >> i don't know if you've ever been to trump towers, but it's like the rocky mountains. the higher up you go in the elevator, the whiter it gets. quentin, biden's deputy campaign manager. thank you for joining us. let's turn now to new york state, which like most of the eastern seaboard is in the grips of a heat wave that has lasted for 7 days now. more than 100 million people under heat advisory alerts. joining me now in studio to talk about this and other issues is the esteemed governor of the state of new york, kathy hochul. >> always good to see you.

>> pleasure to have you in the studio. what is the state doing right now to help protect people in this intense heat wave, especially seniors and people living in low income areas? >> we are in the throes of a heat wave, the likes of which we have never seen. so we are not just doing something now. we have been preparing for the last 10 days, knowing that this could be a deadly event. fortunately, we don't have any reported loss of life, but our seniors are the most vulnerable, and getting messages out about people taking care of their senior neighbors, checking in on them, making sure that there plenty of water, staying out of the heat. also, it is children and pets. we are ready. we have the national guard on call. we will work with all the local county governments to make sure we support their cooling centers in getting the word out. i have been offered free admission to our state parks and beaches over a couple of days this week. so we are getting through it. but i will say this -- it is

not over. this is the new normal. we are always preparing for the worst case scenario, which is why i have intensive incident command center meetings with my entire team to say, what if it becomes 120 degrees? what if we have people overflowing in hospitals? are they ready? we are always prepared for the worst. but i hate to say this -- we better get used to this. the way climate has changed so dramatically, we are feeling the effects in real time. we are experiencing tornadoes. right now, tornado warnings in upstate new york. rather uncommon for this time of year. >> and some still don't believe in climate control. as you are saying, many experts believe the higher temperatures that we are seeing are the result of climate change. you took some criticism earlier this month for pausing congestion prices in new york city, a program meant to reduce

greenhouse emissions by discouraging car travel in high- traffic areas and bolstering public transportation. then on the other hand, people were concerned about those that could not afford certain things. what did you make? how did you make the decision, and what is the future of congestion pricing? >> well, since i've been governor, no one can question my commitment to doing everything in our power to stop emissions, to reduce greenhouse emissions everywhere. i am bringing clean hydroelectric power down from canada, wringing wind and solar in from the hudson valley. we are converting our whole grid to clean energy, which is so important. but also, it is what are we doing for our residents, or citizens? we are hearing their cries for relief, putting up an additional cost of $15 at this moment. what people are going to the

grocery stores and they are shocked with how much less they can buy with the same amount of money week after week. we received word in new york city, their water rates are going up. the rent stabilization board just went up. how much can we do in state government to relieve the burden of the pain that the citizens are feeling? we cannot be tone deaf to that at this time. my commitment to public transportation is second to none. i orchestrated the bailout last year. we will get these project done, and there's other ways to mitigate congestion, but not right now on the backs of hard- working new yorkers who are just taking it on the chin. >> it's how do we do it both? >> of course we can. there's no lack of creativity. and for people to say there's this effect on our climate tomorrow because we suspended this particular program, i can think of half a dozen ways we can deal with congestion while people are driving. the other issue is this -- we are not fully recovered from the pandemic. no place was harder hit the new

york city. now that we have remote work options, when someone says to their employer, i'd rather not spend the $3800 a year to come in extra because of congestion pricing, they may opt to stay in their suburban homes. that is not healthy for our recovery. let's focus on the big picture here, but also, i am committed to our environment, and committed to public transportation more than anyone and will be able to fund these projects and take care of our environment at the same time. they are not mutually exclusive. >> you are working right now with new york city mayor eric adams and others to explore a possible crackdown on masks, especially on public transit. you cited concerns about anti- semitic attacks and crime that we seem that all of us have denounced. while critics have argued a mask band could be bad for public health and could infringe on religious expression and other civil liberties.

where does the mask band idea stand at the moment? >> this was a result of just the horror that people ask. to when they saw people with masks coming on a subway chain, threatening and intimidating innocent passengers. but also, i immediately said, if there is to be consideration of a mask band, we of course will make accommodations for health. if people want to wear surgical masks on the subway, go ahead and do that. probably people have less colds, less cases of covid. that's fine. i also said religious exemptions are critical. people have that right to free expression, and i want no one to feel like that is altered. even free speech. we didn't say you had to do a protest. the current law that was suspended just a couple of years ago said you couldn't wear a mask even while loitering. i want to stop crime, i want to make sure that no one can mask their identity, because it is really hard. >> and hate crimes.

>> and threats of people. people have a right to be safe on our public transportation, walking down the streets, in their places of worship, and nobody should be able to hide under the cover of almost a full face mask to commit these atrocities against fellow new yorkers. that's where we have to draw the line. >> this year, you signed a bill that would limit children's access to social media feeds based on suggested content, rather than the content they actually follow. you call these feeds addictive and potentially harmful. attorney general letitia james is now charged with crafting the legal language for these rules, which will be challenged in court by major tech companies. why did you take this action, and what could it mean for the future of social media? not only in new york, but nationally around the country? >> this should be a national policy. we could have a healthy next generation of young people who

emerged from their teenage years, which are stressful anyhow. but to see in the last few years the number of teenagers -- especially teenage girls -- who are contemplating suicide, they are depressed, they are isolated, and it all goes back to not just looking at social media sites. i didn't say that. i'm talking about the company's intentionally collecting personal information from our children and using it to weapon eyes these algorithms, imparting them with addictive messages that pull them in deeper. we have to stop that. i'm a mom. first mom governor of new york. and so i'm saying this -- we know what it's like to raise children. one i was talking to one of my roundtables said, you got to save us from ourselves. we don't know how to stop. and i said, it's not you. they are doing this intentionally. we are going to help you. >> before i let you go, governor, you are a biden co- chair. and so i'm curious what

you would like to hear from the president at the debate thursday, especially on the subject of guns. i know you are quite pleased with the supreme court ruling this week keeping firearms out of the hands of domestic abusers. what do you hope to hear in the debate? >> all the president has to do is talk about how he is the one fighting for public safety. republicans think that they own this message. donald trump thinks he owns this message. but you cannot be serious about fighting crime if you are not serious about getting guns off the streets, which is a high priority of president biden's. also, i'm not going to high- five the supreme court. there never should have been a question in our nation that a domestic abuser would have a right to a gun? my god, what we come to? and they are basing that on a supreme court decision one year ago. donald trump's supreme court said that i, as a governor, don't have a right to have a law that was on the books for

100 years then you cannot have concealed carry weapons in public spaces. they struck down our law. the supreme court is going back and forth on this. who knows what they will do next? they continue to strip away women's rights, and our nation right now, one out of three women live under abortion ban. that is one promise donald trump capped. he committed to undoing the rights we have enjoyed for 50 years under roe v wade. he wiped them out. at this debate, there is so much material for president biden to talk about against donald trump, but he's got a great record of accomplishment through the 50,000 new jobs coming to new york state. and some of our hardest hit areas, because he brought semi conductor businesses right here in new york. projects to help people live a more affordable life. so contrast his record with what we have dealt with in the past, and i think ultimately, the people going to the polling places this november, they need

to remember this -- those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. we know what we can expect with donald trump. we should be feeling more liberated than ever to conspire against our democracy, as he said he will do. joe biden is the firewall against our descent into chaos even further. we need him elected. we need to rally behind him, and this fever will break. his excitement about donald trump is going to break as people fight for american values. >> new york governor kathy hochul. coming up, louisiana conservatives are pushing the 10 commandments into public school classrooms. i will tell you why we should all be worried of their cultural warfare. cormack plus, tomorrow, i will be on morning joe for all four hours on the second anniversary of the supreme court's decision to reverse roe v wade. vice president kamala harris sits down with my colleague in

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>> this week, louisiana become the first state to require the 10 commandments be displayed in every public school classroom. the bill was signed by new republican governor jeff landry , who has pushed a conservative agenda in his first six months on the job. take a listen. >> this bill mandates the display of the 10 commandments in every classroom in every public elementary, secondary,

and post-education schools in louisiana. if you want to respect the rule of law, you have to start with the original lawgiver, which was moses. >> god gave, moses received. >> that's right. he got his commandments from god. >> governor landry said he couldn't wait to sign the law, and he is now being sued by four organizations. potentially millions of taxpayer dollars will be spent on these cases. as a baptist minister, i am not opposed to finding new ways to spread god's word. the 10 commandments have a positive message. but i also understand the importance of separation of church and state. you would think there would be other concerns that would be top of mind in a state that has the second-highest property rate and the lowest median household income in the country. and one of the highest

incarceration rates in the nation. louisiana was making progress under its previous democratic governor, john bel edwards, who served two terms -- including expanding medicaid coverage under obamacare, advocating for lgbtq rights, joining climate change initiatives, and making improvements in education. last year, the reading scores for louisiana third-graders went up for the first time in five years. now, with governor landry, at the helm, the focus in the classroom has moved from phonics to culture wars. the state representative behind the 10 commandments bill is also pushing for louisiana's own version of florida's don't say gay bill, threatening teachers who make any mention of sexuality or gender to their students. we are starting to see a rise in christian nationalism emboldened by conservative

leaning supreme court, which has ruled in favor of christian conservatives against those who advocate a more secular government for a country made up of people from many faiths. and some who do not believe in any religion at all. many of these christian nationalist groups are going all in for trump, including his former national security advisor, general mike flynn, who has said he is building an army of god for what he calls a spiritual and political war. the authors of our constitution new holy war and democracy were not compatible. which is why they build protection for religious liberty into our founding documents. we must rise up in defense of our hard won freedoms by resisting those who seek to impose their personal beliefs upon everyone else.

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>> welcome back to politics nation. today is the final day of the conference in kansas city. hundreds of mayors from across the country met to discuss some of the biggest challenges facing their cities and to share insights on what they are doing to solve them. many of our largest nation's largest cities have african- american mayors, including new york city, washington, d.c., atlanta, chicago, san francisco, and philadelphia. which, we had mayor parker on this channel last night. joining me now is another one, the mayor of los angeles, california, karen bass. mayor bass, thank you for being with us. you lead a discussion on homelessness, which was a major issue addressed during the

conference. this is especially pertinent, as people on the streets are braving dangerously high temperatures this summer. meanwhile, los angeles saw a 10% increase last year among its unhoused population. what is driving this rise? what is your administration doing to combat this issue? >> absolutely. and the numbers for 2023 actually reflect 2022. we will get 2023 numbers this week, and we are encouraged because we hear that it has gone down. basically, it is fundamentally the rising cost of housing that is being experienced all across the country, and you should note that one of the fastest building sectors of the unhoused population are senior citizens. people in their late 60s and 70s disproportionately african- american women who essentially have been priced out of the housing market. so this is something that i feel

, there's a lot of stereotypes and misunderstandings as to who the unhoused population are, i am very concerned, because the supreme court is going to rule on a decision that could introduce a whole new wave of mass incarceration. >> i want to talk to you specifically about that. the supreme court is expected to rule this month on whether municipalities can criminalize people for sleeping or camping in public areas, according to the institute of justice, criminalizing poverty also perpetuates cycles of homelessness and incarceration while deepening racial inequity. this, as formerly incarcerated people are nearly 10 times more likely to experience homelessness than the general public. in black and indigenous people are more likely to experience homelessness than other racial groups.

for instance, in los angeles county, black people make up about 8% of the total population, but 34% of the unhoused population. what impact could the supreme court ruling have on your city? what would it mean? >> well, i am happy to say that in los angeles, we will resist ticketing people and criminalizing poverty. i am concerned about cities across the country, because people are very frustrated. homelessness is a difficult issue, but it is absolutely solvable. we have been getting people off the streets. one of the stereotypes is that people who are on the street don't want to leave. that is just simply not true. we have a program where we go to people in the tents, we put them in motels with supportive services from community-based organizations, and we are expediting buildings so we can get them out of motels and into permanent housing with support services.

but what i am concerned about is, if the supreme court rules the way i believe they will, considering how conservative this court is, it will usher in a whole new wave of giving people tickets, warrants, and cycling in and out of jail. we know how to solve this problem, and that is not the way to solve it. >> as you know, you aggressively have dealt with this issue of homelessness when you are in congress and coming in as mayor. this is not a new battle for you to set the alarm on with what the supreme court is going to do with it. it's consistent with what you try to be about for years. let's turn to donald trump's dehumanizing language about migrants last night in philadelphia, where he told the crowd, he floated the idea of a migrant fight club in ufc. he said this to ufc president dana

white. he's also made discouraging comments about the roundup of the homeless and swift execution of drug dealers. what goes through their minds when they hear all this stuff from someone with a very good chance of being elected president again? >> i will tell you what goes through my mind is that i'm going to double and triple down my efforts to make sure that he never gets close to the white house again. he has told us over and over again the type of leader he is going to be. we had four years with him, and he would come back and be 10 times worse than he was before. i think that we understand that if you were to get back in the white house, it would have devastating impacts for cities, because he would support and rally and lead the way for the criminalization of migrants and

of people who are unhoused and people poor in general. so we have to take it very seriously. here you have a man that has 34 felony convictions, is facing 60 more indictments, and how he could even be considered a legitimate candidate for president, i think this is an example of a sad chapter in u.s. history. >> the latest fbi statistics point to a historic drop in crime in the first quarter of this year, including the murder rate, which fell at one of the fastest rates ever recorded. what have you heard from other mayors at the conference about crime-fighting efforts? will crime proved to be a significant issue for voters this november in your judgment? >> well, i think that it is liable to, mainly because the republicans are going to ignore the fact that crime has decreased and just want to talk about crime increasing. all of us have to understand that crying cycles.

it goes up, it goes down. there is the potential for it to go up in the summer, especially as we experience historic heat. but you shouldn't pass policies when the crime cycle is up or down. and so i think we need to continue to have a comprehensive approach, which means we do everything we can to prevent crime from taking place in the first place, intervene when crime occurs, and then when people commit crimes, they have to be held accountable. that they should be held accountable in a just way. not in disproportionate ways in particular communities. >> los angeles mayor karen bass. thank you for being with us again. coming up, former president trump is gearing up for the debate stage. but his legal dramas could continue to pay out in courthouses across the country. we will have an update, next. t . the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent,

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>> welcome back to politics nation. even as former president trump gets ready for his first 2024 debates, his legal cases continue. on friday, manhattan d.a. alvin bragg asked the judge to end trump's hush money trial to keep much of the gag order against the former president in place, citing dozens of threats against officials involved in

the case. on the same day, the judge presiding over trump's classified documents case held a hearing on a motion to dismiss that case. keep in mind that the judge donald trump appointed still hasn't scheduled a date for the trial. and all of this comes as we still await a decision from the supreme court about whether trump will have immunity in his federal election interference case. joining me now is a former u.s. attorney and now an msnbc legal analyst. carol, let's start with the supreme court. do you think the court would be influenced by the timing of this week's debate and its decision of when to rule on trump's immunity case? >> in all honesty, i don't think so. we are in the last week, technically, of the court's term. they could extended by a couple of days if they really get

caught up, when you got so much going on, both in the presidential race and in donald trump's court proceedings, and the supreme court schedule, you are playing a little bit of a bumper cars kind of game here. and it's going to be natural for people to say, oh, the supreme court did something for a political reason. it announced the immunity decision just before or just after the political debate takes place between trump and biden. but there's a lot going on at the supreme court right now that got -- they only have one more day in june, that's this wednesday, when they say they're going to announce cases or announce opinions. they have 14 opinions left. i think it's a good bet they are going to add days, perhaps thursday and friday, they will be announcing opinions also. but the debate is thursday. i would caution against reading

too much into when they could have that opinion, because they are just down to a few days right now. >> and 14 cases they have to announce. the supreme court does rule this week that trump does not have immunity, is it already too late for this election interference case to take place before election day? >> we are really talking about jack smith's case, the special counsel's case in washington, d.c. and getting very, very close now. i thought if the trial had gone in march that there would be a good chance of all of the proceeding, even the appeal of that, i think, was unlikely to have done before the election. i think at this point, here we are almost in july. it's going to be pretty tough to get this case concluded, even the trial concluded by november. and a lot is going to depend on what the supreme court actually says in this opinion, because even if they decide that there is no absolute immunity, they

may come out with a procedure that requires more proceedings on the district court level that could slow things down even further, and possibly lay out the possibility for another going up to the court system before trial. so i'd say the odds are diminishing lee smaller at this point. >> judge eileen cannon, who was presiding over trump's classified document case, as continue to hold hearing after hearing . she has come under scrutiny for still not scheduling a date for that trial. the new york times also reported last week that she rejected suggestions to step aside by two fellow federal judges in south florida. could she face any repercussions for her actions? >> i would say, reverend, at this point, the answer to that is no. we don't really know what happened in those discussions with the chief judge and another federal judge in the

southern district of florida. it could have just been that the chief judge gave her a call and said, look -- having a trial like this in a more remote courthouse two hours away from miami, you know, you are the only judge in the courthouse because it is so remote. that is difficult for the court. it is difficult for the parties. and we just want you to know that if you, you know, decide that you don't want to do this case, that option is open to you. it could've been something phrased that way or something a little stronger, with the chief judge of a district is not technically the boss of the other judges. they are in a superior administrative role. they can make divestments, they can talk about ways to make the court more efficient. but every judge appointed by the president, they run their own court ring. until we see a little bit more of that in appellate court,

they could actually say, enough is enough. and i think we are still a ways away from that. i don't think there will be any legal reproductions for judge cannon. >> msnbc legal catalyst carol lange. you for being with us. up next, i will tell you why you all must watch the presidential debate on thursday. e on thursday. (male vo) dan made progress with his mental health, but his medication caused unintentional movements in his face, hands, and feet called tardive dyskinesia, or td. so his doctor prescribed austedo xr— a once-daily td treatment for adults. ♪ as you go with austedo ♪

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>> that does it for me. thanks for watching. i will see you back your next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. and before that, i will be on all four hours a morning joe tomorrow morning, starting at 6:00 a.m., right here on msnbc. right now is the sunday show. the final countdown. we are four days away from president biden and donald trump squaring off in their first face-to-face meeting since 2020.