real question, not rhetorical, would you like to meet rachel maddow in person? talk to her about democracy and the news or chris hayes or lawrence o'donnell or jen psaki or me too. go to the link on your screen if you want to be anywhere near new york on september 7th, if that is a place you can get to and you're interested, we're launching something. today was the announcement. msnbc live democracy 2024. it's going to be in brooklyn, new york, where i happen to live. that's not why it's there. you can go to msnbc.com/democracy2024, and get tickets to come join us if that's something that is workable for you, if you have the time and budget to do that. i encourage you to check out the link. the first of what might be a lot more msnbc events. that does it for us. "the reidout" with joy reid is up next.

>> just some of the horrifying consequences for women all over the country, after the supreme court decision overturning roe two years ago today. plus, multiple hearings today on trump's purloined classified documents as trump's favorite judge entertains an absurd argument that special counsel jack smith was illegally appointed. and we begin tonight in the midst of a heat wave. amidst the sweltering heat that is shattering records worldwide. saudi arabia announced yesterday that at least 1300 people have died making the hodge, the islamic pilgrimage due to extreme heat. and 100 million people in the u.s., nearly a third of the country, spent much of last week under a heat advisory. these temperatures are not normal. they are the direct result of the climate crisis we're currently living in. and scientists have sounded the

alarm. quote, these heat waves are the fingerprint of climate change, experts said, and are a glimpse of what's to come as human induced climate change continues to amplify extreme weather. it should be obvious that dangerous climate change is already upon us. a climate scientific told "the washington post." people will die because of global warming on this very day. unquote. so what does that have to do with politics, political show host, you ask? well, one of the things exacerbating the climate crisis is fossil fuel extraction that continues to drag every drop of oil and natural gas out of the earth in the quest for unlimited profits. the u.s. accounts for about 13% of global crude oil extraction. for all the complaints from republicans about joe biden and his green energy, the u.s. is currently extracting more oil and natural gas than ever in this country's history and the most of any country on earth including russia, nigeria, and

saudi arabia. and while that is boosting the bottle lines of exxonmobil and shell and oil refinery magnates like the koch brothers, it's not exactly helping the earth not die. and if you think the billionaires behind those companies care about the whole earth dying thing, you would be 100% wrong. on the contrary, america's billionaires, oil, gas, tech, media, and otherwise are busy tripping over themselves and stampeding over each other to get in front of donald trump and hand him millions in campaign donations so he can get back into the white house. and in exchange for the bribes he's soliciting door to door, hat in hand, he's offering to let them operate with less regulation, including drilling on public lands. that's one of two things you need to understand about the upcoming election. the other is that the massive tax cut donald trump signed his first year as president in 2017 was the dream paul ryan, the

then speaker of the house, had nursed for most of his adult life, is set to expire next year on new year's eve, december 31st, 2025. and while vb president biden has vowed to let it expire, trump is vowing to not only keep those tax cuts but to add to them. that means billionaires can gobble up more tax cuts. that's the reason every other billionaire is kissing trump's ring and a lot of non-billionaire rich people too, including the rappers. they don't care about democracy or voting rights or women's rights. in fact, democracy and voting are an inconvenience to the super rich because when people get to choose, they almost always choose to tax the rich. don't believe the bs about people voting against their economic interests. the people who vote for trump and other republicans are richer than average. not poorer. and they also don't seem to care that half the time trump sounds like this. >> i have the wounds all over my

body. if i took this shirt off, you would see a beautiful, beautiful person. but you would see wounds all over. all over me. i have taken a lot of wounds. i can tell you. more than i suspect any president ever. my stupid people when i wanted to refute it, they said sir, don't dignify it with a rebuttal. refutal? refutal? what the hell word would that be? he didn't know. but they don't know either. you have to get out, just this time. i don't care, in four years you don't have to vote. okay. in four years, don't vote. i don't care. but we'll have it all straightened out so it will be much different. >> what would happen if this boat is so heavy and started to sink, and you're on the top of the boat. do you get electrocuted or not? in other words, the boat is going down and you're on the top. will the electric currents flow

through the water and wipe you out? let's say there's a shark about ten yards over there. would i have to immediately abandon or could i ride the electric down? he said, sir, nobody has ever asked us that question. >> and the other half of the time, he says things like this. >> i have an idea for you to make a lot of money. you're going to go and start a new migrant fight league. migrants, only migrants. and then at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion, and i hate to tell you, i think the migrant might win. that's how tough they are. >> and no matter how cruel or deranged or clearly not cognitively okay this man may be, the billionaires are still willing to drop america into his tiny little hands, just as long as they get to keep that tax cut and get more deregulation. and this thursday, we're supposed to take that guy that

you just heard seriously when he gets on that debate stage with the actual president, the current one, and spews even more nonsense. joining me now is nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. you have been to a lot of these trump events. you have talked to a lot of these supporters. when they hear donald trump talking like we just heard, we saw the ones in the audience there laughing. how do we explain why they think that's a president? >> reporter: i think, joy, for a lot of folks that there's a reflection or a connection to somebody who is speaking right off the cuff. somebody who, yes, may have a tell prompter in front of him, but goes off on tangents there. for them, let's be very clear here. i think donald trump is convinced he has been effective as a political candidate over now almost ten years. because of that. because there is nothing stale about donald trump. we don't know where this political movement ends. but the leader of it is somebody that is consistently providing

new material. there are thousands if not millions of folks who routinely watch online his campaign rallies. and this is somebody who they follow on social media because you never know what you're going to get. that is the difference about donald trump, and somebody who is shepherded and been able to effectively control the base of this republican party in no small part i think because of his presentation. >> let me play, this isn't your interview, this is shaq brewster, our friend. he went to and talked to a set of trump voters. let's listen to that. >> i have been for him since he came down the escalator in 2015. he's -- he does everything by the books. he follows the constitution. >> he's for the people. i'm getting emotional. i don't know. >> you're getting emotional? >> yeah. >> why? >> i just feel like he actually cares about the country. >> who cares who he had sex with

before he was president? >> you're talking uthis trial in new york? >> yeah, well, yeah. but who cares? you know what, i'm not a man but i'll tell you something. men and women cheat. you know? and just because he -- he says he didn't have sex, i believe him. i believe everything he says. >> that was in wisconsin, vaughn, but you know, have you -- if we went and saw one of these rallies in pennsylvania, would those same people be there? are these people who follow him from place to place. i did notice in the michigan group, there was a local reporter who talked to people, and none of them were locals. none were from detroit. they seemed to be people who follow trump like the grateful dead. are these fans who go from place to place? >> there are absolutely those. i can't tell you the number who have been to dozens of rallies but more than 90% easily of the folks are individuals either from that town or folks to drive from two to three hours. i think this is the part where i

have been -- it was at donald trump's first mega rally in the summer of 2015. i have been covering him since, is the fact that folks are a little bit more disconnected from mainstream news sources than they were. they're not reading "the new york times" or even the local papers. a great number of local papers have gone down in the last decade, have gone out of business. they're not watching cnn, msnbc, or nbc nightly news. folks are turning into oan, newsmax, they have outlets, steve bannon's war room, they have outlets there that deliver them oftentimes a different set of facts here. so i think when you hear somebody, you know, you could suggest they may be a sympathetic figure to a certain degree because what they have taken in and consumed over the course of now years is information that is not always aligned with the reality that is actually being played out. >> last very quick question. do those people believe that

they received benefits from the 2017 tax cut? >> you know, i think these are a lot of good questions, joy. i think that overarching, i think a lot of this comes down to the idea that donald trump has effectively been able to convince millions of americans that he is fighting for them. when you get down to the granular, of course, there are many different responses you get here, but i think that these are legitimate and serious questions, and ultimately, i think that this is going to be like a stage where frankly, he has not been challenged. he's only been to mainstream news interviews over the last four years. he didn't go on the republican debate stage. i think this is where the debate on thursday night is unique because it's 90 minutes of potentially him being challenged on some questions like that that you're posing from joe biden. >> i hope that comes up. nbc's vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. let's bring in matthew dowd, former republican strategist and

msnbc senior political analyst. let's ask you that same question, this is the reality, matthew. none of those people got the tax cut. let's just be clear. the tax cut went 80% to corporations and the super rich. if you're not really really rich, you did not get a tax cut. you might have gotten a few pennies here and there. if you live in a blue state, your taxes went up. if you own a home, your taxes went up because they took away the ability, or they reduced the ability for you to write off your home mortgage interest. the tax cut literally only helped you if you were really rich. why do people who are not really rich think he's, quote, for the people? >> well, the same reason why they think that he's a religious person. i have had conversations with hundreds of trump supporters, and i live around them in texas when i'm there. and there's this suspension of disbelief. it's like they're in a netflix series about ufos or martians. and like all of us, if we get into it where our emotions take

over and then we no longer sort of say, well, that can't be true, that can't be true. they suspend all that in the course of this. you could go through any number of things that if you just had a fact set go to them, they would present it to them, any rational human being not caught up this cycle is, you're right, you're right. the fact of the matter is joe biden has done more for donald trump supporters than donald trump has. every single protection of medicare, protection of social security, all of those things, but they're in this suspension of disbelief which is held up in mew view, always held up by the fact that donald trump hates and despised the same people they do. whether it's people of color, people that have a sexuality that they don't agree with, disabled people, immigrants. donald trump makes fun of those people and hates those people

just like they do. and that hate unfortunately, and i don't say this gladly, that hate suspends their logic in their mind when all other factors point to the fact they should be supporting joe biden. the fact that donald trump breeds that hate that they actually tap into keeps them as a supporter of donald trump. >> i don't think i'll disagree with you. it's not a netflix movie, it's a tubae movie. let's talk about the rich people. people say they like trump, and you say why, and they say i had more money under trump. the economy cratered under trump and you had les money because the economy shut down. how you had more money, i couldn't tell you unless you were really rich. here's a woman who is really really rich. she was an obama fund-raiser, she came to the country from vietnam. she once lived down the street from steve jobs in silicon valley, yet she claims what

exasperates her about the current era is violent crime and elicit drug use. we're probably talking about a different drug that's in powder form, not another form. she would like to see policies such as lower taxes that benefit businesses and encourage entrepreneurship. many people are coming to trump for his good policies. quote, look at his 2016 jobs act. a couple red flags when i read that piece in the new york post, which didn't inquire any further. barack obama was president in 2016. not donald trump. and the thing that she called the jobs act, the only thing you can come close to it is the tax cut. they called it the tax something and jobs act. so rich people like this lady who is really, really rich, are selling to broke people that, well, she had more money. she got the tax cut. that's all they want, the tax cut. >> yeah, that's what's so unfortunate, you would hope in a democracy that people are voting for the common good.

and even if a wealthy person may have to pay more in taxes if it's going to help 5 million other people, they would be for it. some are doing that, people like melinda gates announced she's going to support joe biden, and she's a billionaire, but she's doing it for choice and abortion, not for herself, but for the millions of other people impacted by donald trump and his policies. what's amazing about this is donald trump gets away with acting like he's a populist and against the elite, when he has the most elite, elite people, and it's not just people running a major 500 corporation with hundreds of thousands of employees. those people aren't supporting donald trump. it's the hedge fund operators, the oil company operators, all the people who don't have a large contingency of employers with diverse employment. it's these people who become wealthy and want to keep their wealth. >> greed. there is no other policy they're talking about. they don't care about anything

else. that tax cut is going to expire and the corporate one is even lower, and these people pay less taxes than their secretaries and they want to keep that money. matthew dowd, thank you. coming up next on "the reidout" which we will bring you the latest on the multiple hearings in trump's classified documents case. "the reidout" continues after this. reidout" continues after this diets and exercise add to the struggle. today, it's possible to go from struggle to cholesterol success with leqvio. with a statin, leqvio is proven to lower bad cholesterol by 50% and keep it low with 2 doses a year. common side effects were injection site reaction, joint pain, and chest cold. ask your doctor about twice-yearly leqvio. lower. longer. leqvio® are your gutters clogged? cleaning them can be dangerous, mucky, yuck. get leaffilter. it's as easy as one, two, three.

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donald trump's federal classified documents trial would have started last month. at this point, we would be in the heart of a trial that was expected to last about three months. but of course, these are anything but normal times. and instead of being in a florida courtroom arguing over the actual facts of the case, today, the special counsel's team and trump's lawyers were in the second of three days of farcical hearings set by judge aileen cannon on trump's claims that the entire investigation is unconstitutional and should be, surprise, surprise, thrown out. in today's performance, trump's lawyers went after the funding for special counsel jack smith's investigation, claiming that it unconstitutionally violates the appropriations clause of the u.s. constitution. this comes after friday's claim that smith's appointment was invalid without senate confirmation. and i'll say this again, if by small chance judge cannon is listening. these arguments have already been made and rejected by multiple courts dealing with special counsels.

including the ones who investigated richard nixon during watergate, robert mueller who investigated trump's ties to russia, and even with david weisz, who was investigating hunter biden. the one hearing with valid purpose today was over special counsel -- over the special counsel's request to impose a limited gag order on trump to restrict him from making statements endangering law enforcement agents participating in the case. this request stems from trump's blatantly false and dangerous claims suggesting that the fbi agents who searched mar-a-lago in 2022 were planning to use deadly force against him. as a helpful reminder, first, the language trump was referring to is standard language in all searches even in the one used when the fbi searched president biden's home. second, trump's lawyers were informed that the fbi was coming. and third, the fbi conducted the search purposefully on a day trump wasn't even there. joining me now is neal katyal, former acting solicitor general

and msnbc legal analyst. neal, please tell us how unusual was it for this hearing to take place, and what new could have possibly been learned on today? >> well, joy, i really like the way you started by saying if these were normal times. because this hearing today and these hearings before judge cannon are anything but normal. she's been entertaining days of arguments about whether the special counsel is unconstitutional. which is pretty much a laughable argument. you know, i had the privilege of drafting the special counsel regulations back in 1999, a long time ago. i can tell you that we went and presented them to the house and senate leadership, including republicans, including their top republican lawyers for the house and senate. everyone thought they were constitutional. nobody thought there was any possible problem. and indeed, as you said, they have been repeatedly, this question has been repeatedly litigated, repeatedly lost.

this is an enormous waste of time. and these are specious arguments but i think that's too generous. there's no plausible interpretation of the regulations where the precedent and tradition that surrounds them that would justify the way judge cannon has entertained these arguments so far. >> let me take the most cynical possible view of what judge cannon is doing. the kind of generous argument would be that she's going to judge school. she's a very inexperienced judge. he doesn't bow anything, and she herself is learning. she's taking this opportunity to take additional law classes from jack smith to find out about the special counsel law. that's the generous way to look at it. the ungenerous way is she's going to try to determine that the special counsel statutes that you helped to draft are unconstitutional in the hopes that jack smith will appeal and appeal to the next circuit up and get to the supreme court and she thinks she will have then engineered a way for the leonard leo six to declare a statute

that has been repeatedly declared constitutional found unconstitutional by this court because this court does not care about or respect precedent. could that be what she's doing? >> yeah, i'm not going to characterize her motivations or the supreme court's. i don't do judicial motivations. i do what they have actually done. here, it does seem to me like her plan is to slowly asphyxiate this case by entertaining every frivolous argument the defense can conjure up and the plan is that the case will die by 1,000 paper filings. and you know, that's one thing, if it's a plausible legal argument. you know, every defendant is entitled to make plausible legal arguments. these aren't plausible arguments. >> let's go to the other piece of this, because there was a hearing today that is important. this is on whether or not there should be a gag order. interestingly enough, there was a gag order in the new york case because donald trump kept making threatening statements that threatened not just witnesses,

people were afraid, even michael cohen said he was afraid. he talked about the threats they got, the threats the judge got, the threats the judge's daughter got. in this case, she is entertaining the question of whether there should be a gag order and our producer that produced this segment paid attention to the hearing and she seems very skeptical. despite the fact of these things, in 2022, there was an armed attack on a cincinnati field office in the days following the fbi search of mar-a-lago. an armed man who was at the capitol on january 6th was fatally shot after he fired into an fbi field office in cincinnati. that is related to the case that is in front of her. the social media posts by this armed man before he made that attack on the fbi, he posted on his social media, enough is enough. be ready for war tomorrow. kill fbi on site. we must return violence this time. shoot the bastards when they try to make you fear, hold up a sign saying we love trump. when they come for you, kill them. she held a hearing in which she

seems skeptical there needs to be a gag order. >> judge chutkan in washington, d.c. has faced similar threats because of, i think, trump and others goading on the violence. you know, what trump did here, forget about the gag order for a second. what trump did here was unforgivable to say that president biden was trying to assassinate him with the warrant terms. you know, when mar-a-lago was searched. biden had nothing to do with the search. trump wasn't even there. and most importantly, as you pointed out, the terms of that warrant are exactly the same terms as every other search warrant in the united states served by the justice department, including the search warrant on president biden himself. it was ridiculous, inflammatory, dangerous, and i do think it deserves a gag order. look, any judge should be carefully considering all of the issues in the case before doing something drastic like implementing a gag order, and that's particularly true for a presidential candidate. but according to the reports, i wasn't there, but looking at the

reports, it looks like the judge was not really listening to the prosecutors' very reasonable arguments about why a gag order is appropriate in these unique circumstances. and that is really, really concerning. >> and if, for instance, let's just say she denies the gag order, which i assume she will. could jack smith appeal this to the 11th circuit and potentially get her removed? >> he could appeal it to the 11th circuit. the question of removing a judge is something the justice department literally almost never does. in my position at the justice department, i was asked to do that by prosecutors every so often, and we always said no because it's just not the way the justice department traditionally operates. however, you do have a judge here who is not operating in a way a traditional judge operates. again, i'm not characterizing her motivations but the rulings have seemed way, way out of sync with what normal judges do.

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this is a health care crisis. and we all know who is to blame. donald trump. trump has not denied, much less shown remorse, for his actions. instead, he, quote, proudly takes credit for overturning roe. in the case of the stealing of reproductive freedom from the women of america, donald trump is guilty. >> today marks two years since donald trump's hand-picked supreme court justices ripped away abortion rights from millions of american women. overturning roe v. wade with their ruling in dobbs versus jackson women's health. since then, the cruelty of the post dobbs world has impacted people all across the country.

new data from planned parenthood shows since dobbs 21 states have enacted some form of abortion ban and more than 28 million women, trans and nonbinary people of reproductive age live in them. that is nearly 43% of all women of reproductive age nationwide. and we have heard directly from women affected by those bans. >> my state chose to drive me out of my home, my community, away from my children, my doctors, rather than to let me access care. >> i couldn't leave the state, and if i had, i probably would have died. so i had to just wait until i did become near death. it took three days, and the trauma of that waiting and being in terror and fear for those three days, i mean, it's cruel. it is inhumane. >> her heart was still beating, but they told me at that point, because i had lost all my fluid, there's nothing i can do. so i looked at him and said

okay, so what are you going do? are you going to -- what are we supposed to do, are we terminating? he said we can't do anything. i said excuse me? you can't do anything? what does that mean exactly? he says we can't do anything. >> joining me now is shannon brewer, former director of the jackson women's health organization in mississippi. the plaintiffs in the dobbs case. she's now the executive director of the las cruces women's health organization in new mexico. and mini tim arogue, president of reproductive freedom for all. thank you both for being here. i want to go to you, shannon, and ask you to reflect on two years without roe, what has been the impact on women and the women that you work with now? >> in two years, the biggest impact i have seen is women having to travel so far to these different states.

it has not deterred a lot of women, i must tell you that. it has hurt women as far as having to find places where they can get adequate care. and that's what i have been -- we have been dealing with basically for two years and we're still dealing with it every single day. >> you operated the pink house in mississippi for a really long time. when you talk to folks back in mississippi, because they're also a state where maternal mortality is high, particularly among black women, where health care is hard to find. there's no expansion of obamacare, not a lot of resources offered to women, what are women in mississippi dealing with? >> i don't know exactly what all they're dealing with, but the women we talk to, unfortunately some are dealing with the fact they have to carry unwanted pregnancies to term, that they cannot afford to care for as far as the insurance, medicaid,

child care, so you have a lot of women, you have a lot of underaged girls that are having to have unwanted pregnancies and unwanted children, unfortunately. and that's -- i don't understand how that makes sense still two years later, i still don't understand how that is a better option for these people. >> yeah. minny, talk about the national impact you have seen for women in this country. >> well, you know, it's been devastating, as you pointed out, 21 states have banned or restrictions and folks in places like mississippi having to go all the way to places like new mexico. what you're seeing now is we're essentially living in a segregated society again. we have states rights and states where you can live as a pregnant person with freedoms and states where you cannot. and you're seeing the real life consequences of elections. in new mexico, you have governor

grirshm who has expanded access and created opportunity. i was this morning at the event with the vice president. i got to hear from kate cox. she's talked about the devastation she's faced in her home state of texas. what's next for us as a movement is we have to fight for a federal bill, a federal protection so we have laws across all 50 states and women are protected because right now, having to go from state to state and risk your life and be forced into pregnancies that you don't want, it's untenable. and we cannot continue this way. so we have moral obligation to get this done. >> yeah, especially if you're a child and they forced children to have to flee their states as well because they were raped and pregnant. here's the new ad that the biden/harris campaign is running. and they rolled it out today. >> i was right around 11 weeks when i had a miscarriage. the pain that i was feeling was excruciating. i was turned away from two emergency rooms. that was a direct result of donald trump overturning roe v. wade. he's now a convicted felon.

trump thinks he should not be held accountable for his own criminal actions but he will let women and doctors be punished. >> shannon, this is the statistics as far as the disproportionate impact of the end of roe. black women, this is the percentage of reproductive age women who live in states with abortion bans. 54% of black women live in states with abortion bans. 42% of hispanic women, 24% of asian american women, and 7% of indigenous women. the disproportionate impact has been heavily on people like caitlin joshua we saw in the ad. can you talk about that. >> yes, that's so true. that doesn't surprise me at all. this is exactly what's going on, is that it's -- the people that it's affecting the most are the people who actually need this the most. >> and let me tell you, mini,

donald trump is not sorry. he's bragging about it. he said it was an amazing thing to end roe v. wade. he said this at an evangelical conference. he said it should be left up to the states. has leaving it up to the states made abortion rates go down? i mean, it has gone down at least to some extent because people can't get access to them, but has that solved the evangelicals' wish of making abortion go away? >> you know, it's so interesting. donald trump just can't help himself. he keeps bragging about overturning roe because it was a major achievement for that administration, because he's completely aligned with these extremist right wing demagogs and folks who really believe that abortion should not happen in this country and they're not stopping. you have covered this, but it's really important for folks to understand should there be a second trump administration, they're not going to stop at leaving this to the states. they're going to pursue a national abortion ban and they're going after contraception and ivf because

that's always been the end game. when he says leave it up to the states, he means let the chaos continue in places like mississippi, florida, texas, and he's fine with that, and his movement behind him is fine with that. and that's why actually today, we announced a broad coalition of reproductive rights health and justice groups including those reproductive justice organizations led by black and brown indigenous women to make major investments in get out the vote and voter education campaigns to make sure folks understand the stakes and what's happening in this country so we can have a federal solution, because donald trump leaving it up to the states, it's not going to end well for us. we have already seen the dev staz it's wrought in just two years. >> and shannon, what do you make of the fact that most of these laws are being passed by legislatures where men are the overwhelming membership of these legislatures? it's largely men passing these laws banning abortion for women and girls. >> that's not surprising. that's what i have been seeing

long before roe v. wade was overturned in mississippi. that's who you see standing outside of these clinics. you see a few women but the majority of people out there are men. these are the ones who really want it to be the way it is. they want women at home. they want you at home and having babies. they truly believe that is how it should be. and they'll fight for it. you know, everybody seems to think that this supreme court, the one that just passed with the case, it was a win, but it was just a win for a minute is what it is. you know, all of this, they only came about because this election. let's be honest. because there are a lot of people, a lot of republicans who did not -- you know, they're needing those votes. >> yeah. absolutely. >> that just bought us a little more time. >> indeed. and the time to act is going to be in november. shannon and mini, thank you both very much. on this very somber anniversary. coming up, ahead of

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divisions wib the democrat, party over israel's war in gaza. representative jamaal bowman of new york is a squad congressman and one of the fiercest critics of israel in congress. in his new york primary, he faces george latimer, a westchester county executive heavily backed by the american israel affairs committee. apac helped recruit him to run against bowman. "the new york times" reports the lobbying group then steered more than $2.4 million directly into latimer's campaign accounts. some of it from republican donors. meanwhile, "the washington post" reports that the bowman/latimer fight has become the most expensive primary in american history, according to adam pact this campaign by its allied packs and super pacs is targeting the squad and in particular bowman if bowman was to lose, the first member of the house progressive squad to be unseated.

bernie sanders and other progressive rally for bowman in the heat on saturday with bowman offering a spirited self- defense. >> why is our political establishment doing that? because jamaal bowman dared to speak up for palestinians. >> this election is about whether or not the billionaire class and the oligarchs will control the united states government and our view is, no, they won't. >> we will show them [ bleep ] tragedy for -- the power of the [ bleep ]. >> joining us peter binder, editor at large and author of the notebook on suspects. let me play you jamaal bowman. he did an interview with her on ali vitali. take a look.

>> reporter: is that the central issue as you see it? >> it is. because he was recruited by aipac to run against me but i called for a permanent cease- fire early on . it is central because of that and it is essential because of aipac and their affiliates are pouring in unprecedented amounts of money but this is the most expensive democratic primary in u.s. history. >> the question, was this the central issue in this race can why would that be the central issue in the race in the bronx? your thoughts. >> reporter: the reason jamaal bowman is under attack is because he did something unusual, he actually went to see for himself what life is like for palestinians. most of these members of congress, trend report takes him on a trip. they never see what life is like for palestinians who have lived their entire lives without the most basic of rights. jamaal bowman went there, of all the cities in the west bank, it is the most brutally oppressive in a place that has

been called an apartheid state even by israels own human rights organizations. palestinians cannot walk on certain streets. he had the courage to come back and talk about it. for that reason, he is under unprecedented attack right now. >> corey busch is another top person on thefor last. there is a guy named wesley bell, a prosecutor that was recruited to run against her. this guy used to be a campaign manager for us conservative republican who is antiabortion. now he is running as a democrat. you are seeing this across the board whether it is summer we . you can go through a lot of these members of color who have been critical of israel and aipac is spending a lot of money to replace them with people they prefer birder their republican-led organization. >> reporter: there was a report that half of the aipac donors are putting money into the primaries have given to republicans.

what this is about is these people will support israel unconditionally, no matter what. they want to squelch any opposition to israel's policies and intimidate other members of congress. the aipac donors are extremely wealthy people. it is not as they want unconditional support for israel. they also do not want taxes to go up and more regulation on businesses. they know that people who have the guts to stand up for palestinian freedom, which is a hard thing to do in washington, are going to be the people who will fight the hardest on climate, healthcare, immigration and reproductive rights. they would rather replace them with corporate moderates who basically won't rock the boat and challenge corporate interest on anything. >> we have seen in some races that you had people run as democrats and flip when it comes to whether or not republicans can get a super majority.

that has happened twice. does it strike you that some of these more pro-israel moderate, whatever you want to call them -- are they, you know, committed to democrats? if it came down to republicans controlling the house, would you be confident that a mr. latimer or wesley bell would stay democrats? >> reporter: these tend to be blue districts. i would be surprised if they became republicans because that could impair their chances of re-election. they basically just make the democratic party less progressive, more sympathetic to corporations. and they make ordinary americans look at the democratic party and say, i do not understand this. this is a party that claims to believe in the principle of equality under the law. and it is sending more and more weapons to israel. there was a report today from save the children and that there are 20,000 children in gaza who are unaccounted for. either missing or dead in mass graves under the rubble. people like george latimer are being sent there to send more weapons. this alienates ordinary

democrats for not just muslims. this is not a democratic party that represents me is part of the reason you have an enthusiasm gap with joe biden. >> it is a challenge for president biden for sure. peter beinart, thank you. we will be right back. everyone vote tomorrow in new york. keeps debris out of your gutters for good. guaranteed. call 833.leaf.filter today, or visit leaffilter.com. san francisco's been

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