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i am alecia menendez with simone dennis townsend and michael steele. an energetic president biden on the stump in north carolina as he kicks off a crucial weekend for his reelection campaign. anita dunn will join us at the table to talk about the path forward. donald trump goes on the attack, how he plans to lie his way back to the white house. the supreme court issuing a monumental ruling, overturning decades of precedent. it is almost july, but the are not done yet. welcome to the weekend. we is another busy saturday morning with news from consequential decisions from supreme court to the damage control front and center after the first presidential debate to a major editorial board calling on the president to bow out of the race.

on monday, we expect the supreme court to finally rule on donald trump's wide claim of presidential immunity. that is the case with stalling his alleged election interference trial for the attempt to steal the 2020 election. as for the 2024 election, president biden was back on the campaign trail friday. he addressed concerns about his debate night performance the previous evening. >> folks, i give you my words, i would not be running again if i did not believe with my heart and soul i could do this job. >> after what was a fiery speech in north carolina, the "new york times" editorial board joined a pond and saying, the president should step aside. joining us now is former lieutenant governor mandela barnes. he is now a senior fellow of people for american way. >> lg to algae, this is how we do it. >> i mean, does he book these corners? i feel like he book them for himself and nobody tells us. >> i'm saying, thank you for the invite here thank you for

inviting me to your black jobs. >> are black and hispanic jobs. i am still waiting-- that came from the people. some people did not see that moment. in the debate, when asked about black voters, donald trump made it about immigration and immigrants taking the black jobs and the hispanic jobs. >> i don't know what those jobs are. >> which we always knew he would do is use immigration as a wedge issue with lack voters. >> consistently. >> taking lawyers and bankers jobs? i don't understand. >> and i at a black job now? >> just like in wisconsin, when asked about black people, said he has been to africa before and says to me he has opened up homeless shelters. >> i love he is running for senate. can we back up and talk about the debate? we were going to talk about donald trump, i would like to talk about the president. how did you think he did?

>> remember, barack obama did not have the greatest debate with mitt romney the first round. we knew we were intoning in to an episode of saved by the bell. we went into this and saw a debate performance that does not match the presidential performance. we have four years of chaos under donald trump, we all know that. it would be another four years of unmitigated chaos. we also have had the most productive round of presidency in my lifetime, if ever. i get it, a lot of people were stressed out. was i? honestly, yes. i have seen what a joe biden presidency has delivered for the american people and i am okay with that. people's debate performances don't always equate to a great performance as a governing official. >> the "new york times" and other editorial headlines are screaming for the president to bow out of the race. i think that is a little bit ignorant at this point, because the political realities will not dictate that scenario. if it

did, it is not going to be a good one for democrats. but how do you think the president should recover? you have, for example, washington post noting, biden spoke in a stronger voice than the faint raspy tone that even his rally allies during the debate. he seemed intent on reassuring him, when acknowledging, he is no longer a younger man. one of the things i said the night of the debate, which i felt was important was, at a moment like this, you lean into it. you do not back away from it. the president, the next date into, i don't walk the way i used to walk, i am not the same person, but i am the leader you need in this moment. will that narrative sort of correct the storyline that came out of this debate today? >> i think it will. think about some of the asks the president has done, yes acknowledged his age. let's talk donald trump here

this man is saying whatever, he has been doing this long before the debate stage just a couple of nights ago. the president and his team have a chance to rebound. i think they will. they have demonstrated the ability to do so in north carolina, and as you mentioned, leaning into it, leveling with the american people is something joe biden has always done and i look forward to him doing it. >> let's take a listen to something the president had to say during that speech in north carolina. >> donald trump is a genuine threat to this nation. he is a threat to our freedom. he is a threat to our democracy. he is literally a threat for everything america stands for. three times trump was asked last night by the moderators, what are the expected election results if he lost this time? three times he refused to answer, three times. folks, donald trump refused to accept the results of 2020 and it will also happen january 6.

>> i think we talked a lot about the president's debate performance as it related to his style anyway he came across. there was also an opportunity there, or should have been an opportunity to prosecute the case against donald trump when he started spewing lies, talking about january 6. did you at times understand the confines that would not fall to the moderators? that to me seems like a big piece of word got lost. >> as we are talking about this now, people understand, the former president has continued to sever the rule of law and will continue to do so. not only will we see donald trump march into the white house blazing in november, ringing all the january 6 people with him once again. that is scaring everybody in this country. >> that is interesting. i wanted to get, since we have the lieutenant governor here as well, i thought it was interesting-- she said, when donald trump was found liable for sexual assault and 34 felony

counts, i did not see one republican panic. if they can rally around their criminal figurehead, surely, democrats can rally amount around our democracy and a good man working to protect it. that is resident biden. that to me sounds of the whole debate narrative. hispanic to push biden aside because he did not sound right, or he looked frail. standing next to him was a god that republicans not only have rallied around, but lifted his behind up over their heads as a demigod, and said, this is us. >> to be clear, donald trump sounded quite coherent at that debate and he said some crazy things. >> and they pushed reasonable people aside. reasonable in the context of republicans these days, but they pushed reasonable people aside to make a path for donald trump. they have embraced this maniac who has lied to the american people and continue to do so. we have an opportunity to continue four years to keep

this country moving in the right direction and improving upon areas-- >> i don't like that. i'm sorry. >> no,-- >> but you make a very good point. everything we see and know, yet and still, the american people are sitting there going, i could get a piece of that. i don't understand what it is a bout trump that people will look past all of his crap. >> i think if you watch, he implored a rhetorical device during that debate where he streamed together so many lies that it was impossible to catch them and impossible to fact check him, and it was just a deluge. how are you supposed to actually sort through what he is saying? >> it is like one of those things where websites get hacked , you just keep sending stuff and overwhelm the system. that is what he is doing with our democracy. met at the debate, some of the things donald trump said, he packed a lot into one answer, a lot of lies, and a lots of just again, what are the black jobs?

and he repeated it last night in virginia. he needs to answer the question, what are black and hispanic jobs humor and also what he said about abortion, saying the same thing with the foundation said about what democrats are supporting the days after the baby is born or until nine months. that is not happening. i think those were easy options there. to michael's point about how democrats panic. i think it is worth noting, what we thought was elected officials, partying individuals, strategists, not people that work for the president, but people outside the apparatus. the elected officials are on the ballot this cycle. i know we have congressman garcia coming up later. i think their panic is related to what this means for the ballot. you have senate candidates and congressional candidates running five, 10 points ahead of the president in their state and they wanted to see him talk

more about the future. i think that rally in north carolina hit that mark. if that is the joe biden folks see going forward, i think the panic would subside. i would be keeping a list, honey, because it was way too many people ready to jump. >> i mean, just instantly running their mouths. there was not let's take a pause or a beat and figure out what is going on. >> my advice is, some calisthenics before every event, get the blood flowing, the mind going and be ready for whatever. >> former lieutenant governor mandela barnes, thank you so much for getting us started and coming in this morning. as we said, congressman garcia who was live in atlanta thursday joins us at the table to talk about the first presidential debate, and what comes later. later, biden strategist anita dunn on the administration. you are watching "the weekend." weekend."

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it is a crucial weekend for the biden-harris campaign as they try to address widespread concerns coming out of thursday nights debate. vice president kamala harris was in the battleground state of nevada friday afternoon. harris offered the staunch, staunch did defense of the president. >> earlier today, the president said himself, not his best performance, we believe in our president joe biden and we believe in what he stands for! >> listen, we have got 130

days, i am counting, until election day. 130 days. and this race will not be decided by one night in june. >> joining us now is democratic congresswoman robert garcia. welcome, congressman. i think the vice president makes a very important point. the big freak out thursday night even stunned me. in politics, it was so immediate to me so fast. we were talking with former lieutenant governor barnes about the fact that on the republican side, we are good . our guy is a sexual predator, we are good. democrats, oh my god, he slurred a word. >> he did not just slur a word, it was a bad performance here's

>> i will not take away from that, it was a bad performance. it did not meet anyone's expectations. the thing that amazes me is just the immediate decision by so many in the party to just go, i am done, i can't do this. explain some of this. on my side, i would hunker down, get the press release out, close the doors, we are going to work it out and when we get outside, we will steamroll. >> listen, michael does like to beat up on the democrats. brings back warm memories from his chairman days. >> i think the reaction is essentially that people are obsessed, all the democrats, with beating donald trump. we know the democracy is on the line. we know the future of this country and our institutions are on the line. we are invested. we are all in to ensure we beat him. of course, we want to make sure our debates are perfect. we want to make sure the president performs at his very best. when the president has a raspy voice, or is not taking

on donald trump the way we would like to see it, some get nervous. let's be crystal clear, donald trump is a liar and lied over, and over in that debate. president biden told the truth. he was honest. he showed the kind of man he is here he took on donald trump on the issues he needed to take him on and i am proud of our president. democrats rallied around our president. we are with him 100% . we saw the performance in north carolina. we know the president can deliver a message and take it to donald trump. i am fired up that we are going to win in november and the party will unite behind our president. >> let me ask a more specific version of michael's question. it is not necessarily voters reaching out, it is party establishment. what do you say to the members of your caucus, the ones on background with reporters singing, they are looking at alternatives? >> look at the grassroots fundraising. hours after the president left the debate stage, grassroots fundraising surged. we made more money from

that debate that we have made this entire cycle. look at that, the grassroots, the people i am talking to, they are backing up the president. i would say to those folks, hey, it is fine. not every day will be perfect. let's focus on the big picture, defeating the most dangerous person to ever run for president or be the president in donald trump. that is the president. get on board. we are all there. we support the president. >> this thing about the grassroots and the president, that is why in the aftermath of the debate, i wanted to know what some of the focus groups are saying, those dial tests, as i like to call, regular, real people. how did they gleam this? folks in michigan said, they felt like joe biden won. i was like, okay, this is what real people are thinking in some places. it goes back to the same, jamaal lost his primary this week in new york. one of the most effective attack ads against democrats

this cycle is they undermine the democratic party agenda and don't support the president. we have seen that in a number of races and folks have assured themselves up against that, like some early, saying the attack was against her. she had established a party-- who said like she works with, they rallied around her and she was able to blunt that. you juxtapose that with what we are hearing from some of the operatives, and some of the elected officials, it is like we are dealing in two different worlds. greg nix said on nbc news, to our colleagues, the president had a bad night and i think you will have to put himself out there more. i understand people are rallying around the president and democratic party in terms of the voters, the think there are any changes the campaign should make? >> the campaign will always make changes. i think the campaign has rolled out a really effective

strategy. honestly, i think putting the president out with his supporters, like in north carolina, with electric. getting the vice president out there is motivating the base. they are doing the work. your points about the debate is important. it is not just voters in michigan. there was also a focus group post debate around the latino voters. the latino undecided voters and the participated focus group, the latino voters overwhelmingly thought that joe biden won the debate. they are hearing someone telling the truth. they are hearing donald trump attack migrants in the debate. they are hearing donald trump say, immigrants have created an uncivilized country, a quote from the debate versus a man who stands up for working-class people me for immigrants, latinos, the entire community. the grassroots base of the party , what they saw on that debate, unlike some of the political chattering class, is a man who is honest, who tells the truth. yes, he might be a little older

and wiser, but he has the experience. that is our nominee. there was one person in this country who has defeated donald trump and his name is joe biden , and he can do it again. >> that is an important point. there is no doubt about that. i really think the strategist side of my head looks at this immediately after the debate was on our programming and eight the point, and i think an important one, this president was not served well in preparation for this debate. this president was put in an untenable decision to do something against someone that would be largely ineffective. all joe biden had to do was be prepped to say, every time donald trump finished the sentence, turn, look and him and say, you're a liar, and move on. feeling his head with data, trying to connect dots--

>> that closing statement about taxes. >> rights. let the man be in a space where he can emotionally connect to the american people, as he did in north carolina the next day. that is the guy who should have been on the stage in the debate. >> but you are saying, he needed to be freed up to be that guy. >> this heavy-handed preparation, a weeklong of debate prep against donald freaking trump, are you kidding me? why do you need a week? >> i will demand candidates go on debate prep. i don't care if you are may oriole, presidential, i'm just saying. everybody is not you. >> no, no, i'm not saying-- you don't need a week to do what we saw. that is what i am saying, because they underestimated, they overestimated, or something , who was standing opposite joe biden. i don't know if there

will be another debate. i think to your point, congressman, the more joe biden is on the ground , in coffee shops, walking the malls, going through the neighborhoods, being with real people, talking about real jobs, not black jobs or hispanic jobs, whatever the hell that is, and connecting to people, i think that is going to be the thing that saves him with the american voter who may right now be sitting there going, i am not so sure. >> put a pin in that.i want to listen to president biden at stonewall. >> this became the site of a call to cry for freedom, digging in equality, respect, marked a turning point of civil rights in america, inspired the hearts of millions of people around the world. >> absolutely. the president understands what is at stake. he understands there is a

choice for voters this november and it is serious. it is one actually of moving our country forward or one where our democracy will be at risk, where lgbtq plus people, people of color, working-class people, union members are at risk. donald trump is the most dangerous candidate ever in the history of this country here for the presidency, we saw that at the debate. let's talk more about donald trump's performance . he lied, and lied. did not tell the truth one single time and the fact checkers are saying it now. at the end of the date, the president, the debate, they know what they need to fix moving forward, but donald trump reinforced he is a liar and i think focus groups and post debate information and polls will show that. >> congressman robert garcia, always good to have you at the table. next, we dive into a supreme court decision that will fundamentally change the way agencies operate. that sounds wonky, i promise

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another supreme court decision, another ruling that overturns decades of precedent and whittles away power from the white house. on friday, the court avoided a massive case called chevron versus bc back in 1994. conservatives sheared the decision is a way to rein in the federal government. joining us now, senior writer at slate, mark jessica stern. good morning. >> help us understand exactly what this decision says, and the impact it is going to have across industries in this country. >> this will have a massive and destabilizing impact on pretty much every area of the law, as

you can imagine. chevron deference was a doctrine of humility for federal courts. it told them when agencies think about apartment of labor, epa, whatever, the alphabet soup , when they make a decision interpreting some federal statutes, saying in our expert view, this is how the statutes should be interpreted and enforced, as long as it is reasonable in the balance of what seems right, federal judges should say, we know better than scientists at the epa. chevron has now overturned, that doctrine is gone, and federal judges get to take first crack at these very broad and often complex regulations. the supreme court has basically made himself the czar of all regulatory matters in this entire country. >> justin soto mayor said this about an sec ruling that happened on thursday, that i believe is very much so connected to this. she said, legalists seeking to dismantle the state have

resorted in their win today, but those of us who chairs the rule of law have nothing to celebrate, she wrote. where have i heard that before? >> symone, you hit a very important point. step back. from the very beginning of this era that we are in, the trump maga community has always been about deconstruction of the legislative state. this ruling now furthers that agenda, in my estimation. as you brightly pointed out, the courts are deciding not the scientists and the departments of the government, but the courts will decide equality and how much pollutant is in the air . does that make sense to anybody? how does that impact the courts? a federal judge is now doing what, sitting there with reams of paper and data to try to figure out whether or not 4 billion particles per whatever is a sufficient amount? >> i think this gave us a perfect example of

inadvertently on thursday, when justice blocks this epa rule that limited smog and in his decision, repeatedly confused the decision that causes smog with laughing gas, nitrous oxide. he is not a scientist. he does not actually know better than the scientists at the epa. chevron during its 40 year reign was the basis of about 18,000 federal court decisions. this was a doctrine of stability that often kept the courts out of its business of second- guessing experts. what will happen now is the court will get a flood of cases where it second-guessing everything the agency is doing. >> it was a doctrine of stability that came during the reagan administration when it was actually seen as a positive effort toward deregulation. my question for someone who has lived the past 40 years, how do we get from that moment in the early 80s to today, when you have kevin roberts telling my friend he wants to completely destruct the administration. let's listen to that and we will talk about it on the other side.

>> over the last century, the radical left has seen the administrative state as the fourth branch of government. they are unelected democrats, nothing against your dad, you know that. ultimately, we have to devolve power-- >> because he wrote a check to a democratic candidate. >> you know, the single biggest proponent of chevron, who ever sat on the supreme court, justice anthony scalia. why was that? he came up during the reagan administration, a republican presidency, and saw chevron as a way of empowering republican administrations, let them do what they wanted without federal interference. when did the federal courts on the right, conservative judges start turning under the chevron, under the private presidency of barack obama. when did they finally overturn it, under the presidency of joe biden. all of these alleged concerns of imperial presidency only rise up when there is a democrat in the white house and conservative judges want to block every action that administration tries to make. >> to give way to an imperial

presidency! this is just so dangerous. i can't tell you how many times when i was in the white house, whatever it was, whether it was the epa, or the commerce department, name any single agency, the single servants, not political appointees in the administration, whether democratic or republican administration, these folks, there are folks-- people that i work with that served bush. these are folks that have institutional knowledge, one, but also the expertise. you go to the scientists at the epa to ask them how can this get done? you bring in experts to ask, what would make this policy feasible? now, this supreme court ruling means that, whatever they say, a judge can just overrule it? >> on everything. the air we

breathe, water we drink, food and drug safety, energy policy, everything you can imagine. the tip of the spear is the fifth courts of appeals, far to the right, and effectively has already overruled chevron. they recently made the decision that hobbles the ability to regulate nuclear waste because the fifth circuit conservative judges decided they knew better than the department of energy on how to regulate nuclear waste. it is absurd and it sounds absurd. judges have convinced themselves that they are such experts in every conceivable subject matter that they can just take the reins of government from the executive branch. i think it is important to note, this decision reflects a lot of hostility toward congress and how congress has legislated the last 100 years or so. congress passes broad laws that are designed to give agencies the ability to address problems on the ground as they arise. they say, you need to figure out how much pollution is too much and regulate accordingly. the supreme court is now saying, you are not allowed to do that anymore, congress. you

have to write the most narrow and specific legislation unimaginable. if that legislation is not sufficient to deal with enough problems, that is too bad. you will have to wait another 10 or 20 years before you can come back and fix it. >> in my view this court is setting up what comes under trump. i think people need to be aware of that. now, the federal court system is going to be legislating, not just regulating. >> lord! mark joseph stein, thank you for-- i am not grateful for the scariness you predicted out here, but i am grateful for the truth. thank you. you will stick around because we have more we want to chat with peer next, the supreme court has sidestepped a key court in this election. what the justices said this week about idaho's abortion ban. you are watching "the weekend."

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court ruled idaho doctors can continue performing abortions in emergency situations, despite the state's near-total abortion ban. however, the court opted against deciding whether the ban reflects court law that requires doctors to provide stabilizing care. that is the part of the question on the table that just remains unresolved. let's be very clear. this ruling does very little to protect women's reproductive rights. very, very little. as "washington post" editor went to, this is not a win for pregnant women in agonizing situations. it's likely just a temporary reprieve, and only for some of them. joining me now is george washington medical school professor and mark joseph stern is back with us. mark can you quickly, what did the supreme court do here on this case? why does it not actually protect pregnant women?

>> all the supreme court did was send us back to the lower courts and say, we intervened too early, sorry about that. continue discussing this issue and we will deal with it down the road, maybe after the november election. the court also list lifted the state it in post, in doing so, extensively will allow for certain emergency abortions in idaho. just as amy coney barrett wrote a concurrent suggestion, she is not sure it will have that effect. what this does is ends up creating a lot of uncertainty and maintains the chaos on the ground for the states. >> i want to read you this from justice ketanji brown jackson. we have squandered it. for as long as we refuse to declare what the law requires, pregnant patients in idaho, texas, and elsewhere will be paying the price here tell me, to pay the price, what does that look like? >> this is an extremely unfortunate situation justice ketanji brown jackson is absolutely right.

physician healthcare providers providing this care in emergency rooms in an absolute precarious situation. they still don't have the clarity they need in terms of whether or not they risk their careers, their livelihoods, their patients' lives to provide definitive care that is needed in these situations. the supreme court's missing the opportunity to provide definitive clarity on whether or not these emergency care, and absolutely what they are, when a woman's a pregnant person's life is in jeopardy, can be given definitive care that they need. this is absolutely a missed opportunity and does not provide the clarity that is needed. >> can i just add, this law in idaho bans abortions unless a woman is literally dying. it carries a prison sentence with a minimum of two years. to the provider, that is right. any doctor alleged to have violated this law goes to prison if they are convicted

for at least two years. the supreme court just tell doctors on the ground, good luck with this. i hope you will figure out how these two laws do or do not conflict. in the meantime, we will stay out of it because we never should have answered it. that is not the supreme court's job here. >> and it is my uc providers all over this country leaving the states they are in, because they simply cannot provide the care they are there to offer. >> absolutely. 20 years ago, around 20 years ago, i have the opportunity to around statutory emergencies. we were very clear to provide guidance around what to do in these particular cases, but i would have never imagined 20 years from now, we would have to give caveats that say, we can provide this life-saving care for this utility-- fertility preserving care, unless you live in these particular states, or practice medicine in this particular state where providing this care

can result in a prison sentence for you. in those situations, medevac your patients to somewhere else. these things are unimaginable. again, it is life-threatening, fertility threatening for the pregnant patient and just not the way we should be giving guidance from healthcare providers. it should not be based on the state in which you practice. it should be based on the type of care the pregnant person requires. >> the interesting part about the points you are making, there was a report out of texas , with resort respect to the abortion ban there to a 13% increase in newborn, infant death. this might foreshadow what is happening in other states, said johns hopkins because researcher allison gimbel. texas is basically a year ahead. we see this roadmap now. we know how this is going to end for countless women across possibly all states,

depending on who the next president of the united states is, and what happens, for example with if a national ban comes up. talk about that connection we are seeing going on now, and what we are beginning to realize with respect to infant mortality. >> sure. it is always interesting and i here in the united states we have these very broad policy commitments to reducing maternal mortality, maternal rapidity, infant mortality and yet, we see time and time again, we tend to be passing these laws and these policies that are working against these broader efforts. what we have seen recently with this study published is that the restrictive abortion laws are resulting in us having an increase in infant mortality. when you see these restrictive laws do we see that with an

increase in births, we would see an increase in potentially infant deaths. what we have seen in excess number of these deaths, resulting in having more children who are born with congenital early congenital anomalies born. pregnant people know this is occurring working with physicians to make decisions, not to terminate the pregnancy, but simply don't have those options. those options are-- not having those options in the states in which they live, threatening to the life of the mother and threatening to the wife of the fetus. we see an increase in infant death, within the first year of life, but also an increase in neonatal death. these infants are dying within the first 28 days of life. we are seeing this in texas. we will see this in the other states that are having these restrictive laws. texas, as you said, is just further ahead. >> we heard about abortion at

the debate thursday. donald trump talked about bringing it back to the states and how people feel about that. let's play that for folks. >> run it back to the states and the country is now coming together on this issue, it has been a great thing. >> thank you, president biden. >> it has been a terrible thing, what you are doing. the vast majority of scholars supported roe when it was decided. the idea that they were all against it is ridiculous. >> donald trump's team is saying, every body likes it, people are coming together, the constitutional scholars support me, the legal people support what i did. what is the truth on this? i think joe biden is telling the truth, but you are the expert. >> a huge number of constitutional scholars strongly supported roe and the cases afterwards , especially those that viewed roe as women's equality, a constitutional rentable here. the equal protection clause plays in with that individual

liberty guaranteed by due process to ensure all women get to participate equally in the social and economic life of the nation. when donald trump claims, no one believes that in the legal academy of the law, an issue that is a lie so big i am surprised that joe biden's response was not standing there in a gasp. it wasn't because it was unpopular among law professors, it is because it extremely narrow slice of the judiciary had been indoctrinated with and paid to believe a certain extremely, kind of aggressive philosophy that women don't deserve equal participation in democracy and don't deserve control over their bodies. >> i love that we don't abide by the chevron document. you are still saying, you want the experts to talk. >> we want the experts. thank you to you both. we will see you again soon. the things our thinking. next hour we will talk

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