phone and social media no if we delay giving them a smart phone until 14 and if we delay social media until 16 we can get them through puberty before we turn on garbage hose. >> all right. it sounds like a great plan. social psychologist and author jonathan haidt, thanks so much. greatly appreciated. the book out is a must-read. titled the anxious generation. how the great rewiring of childhood is causing an epidemic of mental illness. and that's it for us this weekend. thanks for spending your sunday morning joe is back for a brand new week tomorrow starting at 6:00 a.m. eastern four hours a day. until then, enjoy the rest of your weekend. f your weekend.

friday will join us at the table. grab your coffee and settle in and will come. tomorrow, the supreme court will rule on one of donald trump's delay tactics to escape accountability for trying to steal the 2020 election. the justices are from the set to release their decision on the scope of presidential immunity, setting this --

saving this crucial case until the very last day of their term. the election trial interference has been on hold since the supreme court agreed to hear it in february. the delay made it almost certain that trump will not face a jury before the 2024 election. goodness. i've got questions. ■ç people advancers. joining us is tim, the former lead investigator the january 6 house select committee. he served as a u.s. attorney for the western district of virginia. marcus childress also a former january 6 committee investigator. i heard you were his boss. >> hi, hope you are doing well. >> can someone explain for us at the table and the folks at home what we can expect tomorrow in the supreme court? is its immunity? >> i am interested and i'm sure tim is on the immunity harry.

i expect we won't have a decision that says there's absolute immunity for president, but the line will be, what are the line the supreme court draws.■ç if we look at the blessing game, another january 6 opinion for trump, for example, maybe they say the lower court has to determine what's an official act prosecutable. the reason it's important is there are clear facts that show trump is not acting as a president at the time. he was acting as a campaign person such as when he called secretary of state in georgia errors sending fake collectors to d.c. it's a facts or maybe he's putting pressure on vice president pence or the doj where the argument that those are official acts that should not be executable. i am curious to see how the court draws the lines for the lower court, and i'll be curious to see how the lower court acts on the decision we got from the supreme court tomorrow. >> it is interesting ■çthis ide that hovers around whether

donald trump was acting in his official capacity, and what does it really look like in the scope of what a president does in a 24-hour period. let's listen to conversation between justice elena kagan and trump's attorney. >> the defendant as the arizona house speaker to call the legislature into session to hold a hearing based on their claims of election fraud. >> absolutely, an official act for the president to communicate with state officials on matter of concern, that's an effective -- official act. >> attempting to defend the integrity of the election, that's the defense. the allegation as he was attempting to overthrow an election. s@7> i started a basic point. i cannot recall at any point in american history where a president of the united states call state officials about his

election. i mean, you have other people who would do that. it was clearly donald trump using his office to try to, as elena kagan says, tend to overthrow an election. how do we take this aspect of what this case really hinges on, official acts? >> that's a good question. the elections are the function of state government. it is states under the constitutional system that manage elections. ki■ the trump lawyer argument is the goal makes this an official act.■ç the interest in broad federal interest in the conduct of free and fair elections, it cannot be simply that the goal is what determines either something is an official act. the theory from the special counsel which i think is consistent with the evidence we found, the former president stepped out of his official role, tempted to unduly and

intentionally influence otherwise lawful proceedings without any evidence that there was actual election fraud and propagated theories that had no basis. i think marcus is right, the supreme court likely articulates some sort of standard that might separate it is immunized, official conduct, clearly within the realm of what is appropriate for the president of the united states versus what is not. special counsel will present much of the evidence is outsideç . that becomes a question for the judge to sort out and some pretrial proceeding before the trial begins. >> i have a question but i want to know what your face is saying? >> my face is saying, what would be an official act that would be covered that is a crime? that's what we're talking about. crimes being covered and in what universe is the supreme court saying, if you do this and you're the president, yet. going to let that one go. >> i think the supreme court

will want the lower court judge chutkan to make this determination some paper. have the special counsel's office to put the evidence out to show these crimes do not fall under official acts and get a ruling that makes the american public feel comfortable for the courts■ç. before we get to that, what i'm curious to see is if there will be up per curiam or denial decision. i thought the most impactful parts of our committee was a bipartisan nature and i think it gave it more credibility. when we saw the colorado case, it was unanimous in concurring opinion. it was unanimous and reside in the d.c. per curiam order of the court. i hope the supreme court can do something similar tomorrow so we aren't sitting here next week talking about whether this was politically motivated or whether there might be some other motives with the decision that comes down. that is my honest hope when it comes to the institutions of our country is we can have some

unanimity with the decisions and i'm not very hopeful about that as well. >> especially, ■u)sbecause it's not looking backwards at what happened on january 6 in the run up to january 6 but looking forward to the upcoming presidential election. i want you to listen to former president trump was asked repeatedly about accepting the results of this forthcoming election at his debate. >> the question was, will you accept the results of the election regardless of who wins? yes or no? >> if it's a fair and legal and good election, absolutely. i would've much rather accepted these, but the fraud and everything else was ridiculous. >> fraud that would've changed the outcome of the election. i think it is telling, he's asked three times and goes back to that answer three times and he says if it's a fair and legal and good election. he cannot answer this question yes or no. >> that's a ■çcircular response

i will accept it if it's fair which means he will never accept it because he will say it's not fair. there was no evidence in 2020 that it was unfair but the president continues to say that it was, and raise money, lying to people saying it was. you are right. this decision not only has a huge impact retrospectively but prospectively sets a standard that will be applied in the future. to symone's question about what could be criminal that's official? the court i think is worried about a president authorizing a drone strike in his or her official capacity that results in a civilian death and there could be subsequent criminal charge. i think you could see things like that be classified as ymmune because they are clearly done an official capacity with no intent to commit a crime.

that's a narrow universe. almost assuredly there will be some post supreme court litigation the keeps the special counsel's case alive. >> it is interesting to me, marcus, where this decision puts everything else. jennifer ruben talking about the future of the trial noted if trump's january 6 trust beats ahead as u.s. district judge john n -- chuck and will be seen as meddling in the election, she holds off until after the election, it will be clear the supreme court are ready to trump's bidding. where in the space gas i don't allowed his court to be in this position in the first place? for someone who has talked about keeping debt we are the him prior that we will call balls and strikes. we went to be separate. how do you see this decision, this all going forward?

i think at the end of the day the supreme court walloped on trump's bidding. when the decision comes down. >> i expect there will be evidentiary hearing. tim touched on it and it happens in a lot of cases that we have tried in our careers. if there is a question of applying a legal standard, faction, into the court, you have evidentiary hearing where prosecutors will present the facts and proffers and witnesses bring facts and how it supports■ç the charges in th core can make the ruling on whether ritz allowed to come in and for what purpose. in a way, it is this evidentiary hearing could be more dampening because prosecutors are pulling out all the facts they feel are relevant for the trial and you don't have to worry about a jury pro-. i expect judge chutkan will apply whatever standard the supreme court puts a tomorrow have evidentiary hearing where she hears the evidence and facts they want to have and she makes a ruling about what can come in and for

what purpose. if the media and everyone sitting there, that can be a pretty historic evidentiary hearing that will happen before the election, even if you do not have a trial before the u election. >> stay tuned, as they say. thank you guys so much. ■ç next, the biden family gathering at camp david today. john allen is here with new reporting. later, near governor kathy hochul will join the conversation here at the table. you are watching the weekend. say hello to your fairy godmother alice, and long-lasting gain scent beads. part of the irresistible scent collection from gain. - i got the cabin for three days. it's gonna be sweet! part of the irresistible what? i'm 12 hours short. - have a fun weekend. - ♪ unnecessary action hero! unnecessary. ♪ - was that necessary? - no.

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president biden president biden is at camp david, trip that was planned before thursday's debate. nbc news reporting is expected to discuss the reelection campaign with his family. joining us, senior national politics reporter jonathan allen who is one of the authors on this story and he is a co- author of lucky, joe biden■ç barely won the presidency. good morning. >> good morning. >> i saw the story pop online when i got up to use the bathroom last night. we go to bed early. people were like, this is not -- tell us about your reporting in the pushback you have gotten for it? >> i don't believe you go to bed early. why would you have to go to bed early? look at all this energy you have. there is no way. here's the reporting we got.

president biden is doing to camp david before the debate but what he was not going to do before the debate is talking to his family but the future of his campaign. we heard anita on the show yesterday saying they are yesterday sahat the next steps are and what they've got to do next. we believe the family discussion , that will be discussed, it's possible they will discuss -- who knows, they are a family. joe biden makes decisions about his political future with his family. he has been seeking the presidency or sitting in it and he consults with his wife, the most important of his consults. his children and grandchildren about these things. we know they will be talking about with the joe biden campaign looks like going forward. >> what do people expect? outside the family, national newspaper editorials, political

operatives in town and around the country, are saying get out now. ■ç is anyone doing a political calculation of what they looks like and how that plays out? if the democrats think they are a hot mess now, they will be a cluster all day long around the corner into next year if joe biden is forced out or pulls out. this is my frustration with this. everyone is focusing on what they saw on thursday night and no one is talking about the individual, i almost used a bad word -- >> it is sunday. >> standing opposite him lying. where are the editorials calling for donald trump to step his behind down. ]'2■k3 -- g threat then the 81-year-old man. we have seen him in different situations. help me understand from what you were hearing■ç and the reporting, is there any

political calculation for pushing joe out instead of ride or die. democrats are not good at ride or die, i'm sorry you are not. republicans stand by their man. i don't care if he's a convicted felon. i don't care if he is sexually molesting some undertakes a bible and rewrites it in his own image, he is our boy. democrats are like, he slurred his word, can't support him. oh my gut . what are you hearing out there? i don't get it. >> he is fed up with the democrats. >> i want to know what word you were going to start with. did it start with an m? the philadelphia inquirer really called on donald ■çtrump to dro his campaign in the way the times did with biden. you are right, democrats are not considering with the fallout of joe biden walking away would be.

number 1, there is a global impact of the switcheroo of candidates. extraordinarily risky, right? most people don't know the rules. this is important we reported in the story. if joe biden were to drop his campaign before he becomes a nominee of the democratic party, you would have an open floor fight at the convention. others delegates he has and all but 100 or so the delegates are his, his thousands of them. >> a little over 3600 or over 4000 total. about 740 q:"ti áu( unpledged delegates. >> they are elected to nominate him. if he releases them, and gets out of the campaign, there's a fight. gavin newsom, gretchen whitmer, vice president kamala harris. go down the list of names. bernie sanders. nobody has talked about bernie sanders.

>> wouldn't that be rich. >> you have a clue locally cluster the democratic convention. if biden decided he wanted to drop out, probably makes most sense until after he is nominated. there's a mechanism for the dnc, as you know, that the party leadership he is basically chosen all the dnc ■çmembers, then they decide who the replacement candidate is. even if this were to happen, and i don't think it's there right now, even if it was going to happen it would be after the convention, probably. >> from your reporting the decision-makers are two people. the president and his wife and anyone who doesn't understand how deeply familiar this decision will be is not knowledgeable about the situation which is interesting to me. we sit here, anita, she will speak with leader jeffries and

to the point of the reporting, it may be a two person decision. you sort of touched on it earlier but given the breadth and depth of your reporting on the guy -- biden campaign a family dating back to the last election, remind us about the ways in which his family■ç has historically weighed in on these choices. >> it's a deep history. often it's over the holidays. they decide if he's going to run for president. he ran in 1988 and in 2020, running in 2024. those decisions are made with the family. even some grandchildren involved in the most recent decisions. his dying son back in -- i'll get the year wrong, about a decade ago was encouraging him to run for president. this is something -- when he talks about his family, these

are things he deeply feels they are the people he listens to ■ to anita and all the other staff around joe biden, no staffer will tell the president he needs to not run for reelection because that's signing their resignation. this is not something that happens. the only people who could urged joe biden to do this outside of his family are members of the democratic leadership, and so far they are uniformly, publicly in support of him. >> i have one more question. your reporting, they didn't leave it on the cutting room floor, the family is going to suggest the president should not run for reelection? >> this is an important one. juxtapose what we sign north carolina less than 24 hours after the debate, joe biden on that stage in north carolina ■ç just very different. >> if it's okay i will quickly,

i have no evidence to suggest his family will not tell him to run. my expectation is they will walk out of camp david with renewed vigor about what things look like. the last people that want joe biden to stop running, i think, are members of his family. i could be surprised, and he has a big family. in terms of what we saw in north carolina, night and day. i think the concern from democrats i have talked to who are either calling for him to leave the race thinking he should consider it is as president of the united states, you kind of have to be judged on your worst moment redder than your best moment. that's2because it's a serious job. how many minutes does it take for a nuclear launch to get here? it is serious business. if it was a complete anomaly, that's one thing.

democrats will be watching closely to see if there's anything else like that in the coming months. >> i would rather have joe biden working through the nuclear launch than someone sitting in the roosevelt room eating hamburgers. >> oh, my goodness. if it's sunday, michael steele is in rare form. thank you for coming. coming in person and breaking down the reporting. we have. next, congresswoman jennifer mcclellan. she's coming to the table and she will talk about ■çtrump's first devote rally in her home state of virginia. light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults.

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disinformation over and over and over while failing to answer several of the moderators questions. the lies continued but embolden trump took a victory lap at of post up a rally in virginia on friday. virginia congresswoman jennifer mcclellan joins us now. she's on the house armed services committee. welcome, congresswoman. >> thank you. my black job brought me here. >> we were having a field day with that yesterday. i want you to listen to what donald trump had to say about winning■ç black and latino vote in virginia. >> every day, more african americans and hispanic americans are joining our movement and that's one of the major reasons we are going to win the commonwealth of virginia this fall. >> what do you say to that pitch being made in the state you represent? >> first of all, that is not

the way to win votes from the black community. i think everybody is focused on his demeaning the black community by saying only certain jobs are available to them, but more importantly, his record as president was detrimental to the black community and joe biden has been working to improve the mess he left in office. i think, a majority of■ç black and latino voters will come out, particularly in virginia, but across the country, and vote for joe biden. >> i was struck by the fact the day after the debate you had donald trump in virginia with glenn youngkin, nonetheless, in many ipads and articles and they opined in the lead up to an youngkin selection and the aftermath of how he is the answer to trump. he could be the republican savior. he is not like donald trump. going to links to keep him at

arms length. now it seems he's right up there with him lock in step. what did you make of this seemingly about-face from the governor on his stance of the ■v former president? >> it is clear glenn youngkin is not the■ç good governor. he spent his administration so far trying to run for president first and now that he has no accomplishments to show for his time in office, he is looking for the next job, i guess as vice president but i don't think that will happen. >> i want to throw some numbers at you. i think right now, we are in a forest dynamic space because of how the president performed on thursday. a lot of people are opining and pushing out narratives around joe biden is doing more should do. you have polls that should biden be replaced on friday after the debate, definitely 36%.

probably 24%. that is 60% of voters that they pulled saying■ç he should go. then you have another poll, possible democratic candidates, same pool if joe biden were to be replaced as the democratic nominee, who should take his place? kamala harris 30%. gavin newsom 20% and pete buttigieg nine. i don't like having this conversation because i think it is unnecessary relevant to donald trump and no one seems to be pressing him or putting pressure on him to step out, but joe biden now has, because of that one night, there seems to be this galvanizing force to move him aside. i asked jonathan allen who was just here, is anyone accounted ç for the political consequences of their? there are real political

consequences that come from that action. everyone thinks it will be a neat package. it will not be. it will be a hot mess. how are you sitting there looking at the potential to take the house back, possibly hold the senate because senate races that were once favoring republicans that are iffy. how rank-and-file democratic candidates like yourself running for reelection looking at all of this in the context of your own races and the potential mess that could come? >> the only path forward is to continue with president biden and kamala harris, not only on the ballot but in the white house. i think one debate performance does not negate three years of the most ■çconsequential presidency in my memory that brought us out to the ditch that donald trump's administration produce an. record investment in climate change that is focused on the middle class.

all of this chatter is distracting from the fact that donald trump has no plan for the middle class. he breaks about the class is the architect of the fall of roe v. wade and its had devastating consequences for women. that he is going to be a dictator who goes after his political enemies for retribution from day one. and distracting from the fact that trump-appointed lawyers now for the third time and listen two years have set aside decades-old president to remake this country in a maga image. to me that is what democrats and independents and ■doderate republicans should be talking about and focused on making sure we do everything within our power to all reelect joe biden and kamala harris and send trump into retirement. >> output layer on that that friday yet bagman al is hitting trump on outreach to veterans ahead of that rally. no one is surprised that trump close the rnc veterans outreach

center after's long history of disrespecting our troops from slashing benefits to calm veterans suckers and losers. a chair the d&c veterans and military counsel said in a statement. this used to be an issue that republicans ran on. respect for our troops and now they are propping up a candidate who has shown nothing but disrespect to our brave men and women who have ■çserved. >> i would say republicans have been playing lipservice. when you look at the voting record in the house at least, they voted to cut veteran services and even for active- duty military personnel, they're not meeting their quality of life issues or making sure -- donald trump ridiculed the president for focusing on climate change. yet, he was not far from the one place where we have the largest naval base in the world that is facing sea level rise at a fastest rate on the east

coast. i think, it's ridiculous that he would try -- that trump would try to reach out to veterans and pay lip service when his actions and his own rhetoric shows he does not care about veterans. >>■ç congresswoman jennifer mcclellan, thank you for being with us. next, new york governor kathy hochul is here after she was with the president at the opening of the snow will national monument on friday. you are watching the weekend. i thought i was sleeping ok... but i was waking up so tired. then i tried new zzzquil sleep nasal strips. their four—point lift design opens my nose for maximum air flow. so, i breathe better. and we both sleep better. and stay married. new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. (♪♪) daily zz for quality sleep. (♪♪) and enxtra for focus and clarity. centrum, powered by clinically studied ingredients.

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i look around at the pride, hope, and life and all of you, i love you bring. i know it's a battle we are going to win and make progress. >> president biden visited the stonewall national monument in manhattan ahead of the final weekend of pride month. he took the stage with sir

elton john along with artists and entertainers and activists to commemorate the 55th anniversary of the stonewall riots which are credited for galvanizing lgbtq+ rights movement. new york governor kathy hochul spoke announcing new policy initiatives for lgbtq people. >> while we may take those rights for granted in the state of new york, and as long as i am govern untried in the loss and protected in the er rate this november. moments ago, we signed into law legislation that ensures that those who have aids have all the support they need. we will continue that march toward progress. >> and new york's governor kathy hochul joins us now. greetings, madam governor. >> good to see you. you were with the president the day after his debate performance. did you see anything that made you question the viability of his candidacy? >> let me give my perspective.

have been an elected official for 30 years. served every level from town, county, congress in a statewide. i've been in countless debates with the intense scrutiny of the toughest media market in the country. you can have a rough night, bad night, but the morning after ■ç defines you. what i saw less than 24 hours after the performance the night before was joe biden himself at his best, energetic, fully alert and conversational. we talked about important policies afterwards. one bad night does not affect 3.5 years of a stellar accomplishment. i am excited about the next four years ahead. >> governor, there is a lot of noise within the democratic party now. it is important to voices like yours and others that are trying to clarify. what are you hearing from other governor, democratic governors,

members of your delegation for the house and senate? are they looking to■ç ride or d with joe biden as republicans are writing and certainly have killed themselves over donald trump, what are you hearing beyond just that new york event? >> will tell you something i learned a long time ago. you tune out, editorial boards, everybody pontificating they know the answers, i know the answers and americans know the answer. the contrast comes down to this november between a good, decent man with a long history of public service that's making the lives of americans better versus a convicted contract who guarantees us more corruption and chaos and a constitutional crisis, we are going to be fine . americans will realize that's the difference■ç that defines u for the next five generations.

what we do this november. regardless of what people are saying, say to my friends were democrats, like up today and start with a plan. get back on the team and march forward to victory. we have the best candidate running and that's president biden. >> governor, one of the issues that is animating this selection and one of the reasons i have heard cited from another of individuals as to why this is possibly one of the most important elections having to do with the issue of abortion. there is reporting out, the antiabortion movement is making a big play for to thwart initiatives on reproductive rights in new york. you ■çmoved swiftly. the ap not reeling from a string of defeats, antiabortion groups and the republican allies and state governments are using an

array of strategies to counter propose ballots intended to protect reproductive rights to prevent voters from having a say in the fall elections. how secure is access to women's ability to make decisions about their body, how secure is the protection in new york given the climate we are currently in? >> is the first woman governor, i can tell you, these are rights that my mother's generation fought for, my generation took for granted, my daughter's generation has lost my jñ2o;?çyçgranddaughter's gen deserves to have them back. this is deeply personal as the birthplace of the women's rights movement. we are enshrining■ç these right on the ballot in our own equal rights amendment, allowing voters to make sure these rights are enshrined in our state's constitution. every time there's been a ballot initiative regarding abortion rights across the country, even red states, when americans have the choice, they want the right to have an

abortion. it's a fundamental right of a woman to determine what happens to your body. the stories of young girls, teenagers, having to endure, having to go through childbirth who may have been or victimized themselves, what kind of cruel society have we become when that's tolerated. what donald trump said as he was spewing out a volcano■ç full of lies through the night, what struck me the most was when he said the majority of americans want to lose the right to choose because of what he did while in office, one out of three american women right now have lost the right to make that decision for themselves. we know, and i say this, those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. we saw what happened under donald trump. even four months of him let alone four years can lead us to a place that will be

retrievable to come back from, and that includes women's rights to choose. it's personal. it's on the ballot and don't anybody tell you it's not there because it truly is. >> i am a new jersey and who works in new york city so yoe' in a symbiotic relationship. congestion pricing a big topic of conversation. critics have said national politics influenced your decision to pause the congestion pricing plan. i want you to respond but under which conditions you would reconsider that pause? >> what i did was recognize that new yorkers and people in this region have been hard-hit by inflation, the cost of everything is going up, we are trying to get people back after the pandemic. were not fully there and i don't want to set back the recovery for people to say, i don't want to pay $15 a more day and i will work remotely. that would be devastating. i said it's a temporary pause,

but playing politics, i'm old ■ç school democrat who listens to the little guy, hard-working people who want a break and that's what we did. >> even those who want to see investment? >> we have a system that's 106 years old and we have made billions of dollars investments. i am continuing to announce more. nothing that was on the drawing books is going to be delayed. we have been able to to fund this without congestion pricing. it is a vehicle, one of a number of vehicles, so we are having this on pause. conversations with the leader of the legislature, we could talk to fund this but every project that matters to new yorkers will be accomplished. >> governor, thank you so much. house democratic leader hakeem jeffries■ç and what's ne for president biden's

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decision has the potential to reshape not just this selection but this country as we know it. >> i ■çthink. yeah. for me, the immunity case, the debate, all these pieces they do intersect at some point. the reality is that's all just noise. voters, i think, really have to come to have a comment to their savior moment, whoever their savior is. to understand what is at stake going into the fall. account for where they want the country to go. whether presidential immunity or the politics of campaigns, all of that is nice fodder for headlines in newspapers and shows like ours that we talk ■ç about it, but the reality falls back to people assessing what

they want out of this country. in my view, leadership has failed across the board. we have a chance to say, we have two choices here. where you going to go, which you going to do? it's an important inflection point. >> i think the point michael is making is interesting. this is a weekend and we are going into the week and people will be often with their families for the fourth of july. i think about a lot of the conversations that, not the political professionals i know, but the regular people in my orbit are having. i think there are a lot of regular folks out there that are looking at this selection and ■çare like, there are some people that are like, i'm not going to vote for donald trump. i don't think trump is all that bad. that's what we are hearing. i think the man is scary but

this sentiment that i think is out there about our some of these voters going to turn to trump? black men our latino men are black voters to come out? suburban women, what are they going to do? it's not one thing or another. it's more nuanced than what we are able to get into. i am very interested to just hear from more regular folk over the next week and a half about what they are hearing and what they think and how this election is unfolding to them. >> symone, you get me to the point i was trying to make. ■ç i don't think immunity -- not in the context of the election but in the context of redefining presidential power. you make a great point which it's happening the monday before july 4 where people go on vacation and are not necessarily, not watching the news the way they are any other week. forget about who wins, the fact

you have the highest court in the land, court that many people feel is compromised making a decision that will redefine presidential power, that matters regardless of who you plan to vote for in november. >> it does. i find the height of irony if at some point in the future, given everything this court has put on the table,■ç democrats g a good run and start behaving like republicans on some things. the squealing and gnashing of teeth will be great, and that's a political side. the point you are making is important. you are talking about creating an uber executive -- >> a king or queen. >> i think short of no community, and a shaving of that, changes who we are as a nation in terms of executive power and authority.

>> someone said to me recently as yesterday, the system has already been bent. what donald trump has done this take advantage of the holes and cracks and bending of the system that already was in place. he exposed all these things. i think that was one of the ■ç most -- i was like, i didn't think of it that way on this front. that is absolutely true. >> we've got another jam-packed hour coming up. refresh the coffee because we have leader hakeem jeffries coming up. a a portion activists and political and list. they are going to be here at the table so stay there. get the coffee and come back. you are watching the weekend. . with liberty mutual! (inaudible sounds) (elevator doors opening) wait, there's an elevator? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, ♪

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