on businesses. all right, we have just under a minute left. we'll do 30 seconds final thoughts to each of you. reverend al, we'll start with you. >> i think as we go into the 4th of july tomorrow, we ought to think about what the country is supposed to stand for, especially in light of the supreme court decision and make a sober analysis, quite whining, figure out how to start winning for those who want to save democracy. >> solutions, solutions, solutions, focus on rallying americans around the things they care about most, get to work. get to work saving the country. >> yeah. and i'll be watching president biden as he does his first interview since the debate and then i believe heads to the nato summit. the week after he'll be doing press conferences and i think we will have all the answers we need in the days to come. that does it for us this morning, happy fourth, everyone. ryan nobles picks up the coverage right now.

all right, mika, thank you. right now on msnbc, damage control. president biden stepping up his outreach to top democrats as he faces growing questions over whether he should remain on the ticket this fall. but will he be able to convince them to stay on board? in just a few minutes, i'll talk to one democratic congressman who said biden didn't have just one horrible night and what it all means for november. plus, donald trump's supreme court immunity win pushing back his sentencing in his hush money case until september, but will it still happen at all? and then later, hurricane beryl bearing down on jamaica. we'll have a live forecast on where the historic storm is heading next. good morning, it is 10:00 a.m. eastern, i'm ryan nobles in for ana cabrera reporting from washington, and the whispers here in d.c. are getting louder as democrats grow increasingly concerned about president biden's 2024

prospects. one democratic congressman has now called on biden to step out of the race. one democratic senator says the door is open to replacing biden on the ticket, and former president obama privately telling allies that biden's debate performance has made re-election much harder. that's according to "the washington post." the pressure is on for biden to reassure rattled democrats. he's going to have lunch with vice president harris. he'll meet with democratic governors. last night he called house minority leader hakeem jeffreys and friday biden will sit down with abc news in his first interview since the debate. we have a lot to get to. we have nbc's monica alba, nbc's ali vitali is with me here in studio and the senior writer for the dispatch, david drucker. monica, the president and his team obviously have a busy day today. you actually have new reporting on a biden campaign call, also a memo that went out today. what can you tell us about the

president's meeting today? >> reporter: there have been so many questions about how in the days since that disastrous debate performance the president would manage that and who he would be speaking to and how that would trickle down to the white house staff and to the campaign staffers and we are hoping to get some indication about that message in these two calls that are going to be held later this afternoon, one with white house staffers where i'm told that the chief of staff, jeff zeinst is going to deliver a message to the senior staff, which is about 40 people in the white house making some of the most critical decisions day-to-day, which is to weather the storm, keep your heads down and keep your eye on executing the mission of this administration. but we understand that there are of course younger staffers who have had questions about the president's potential vulnerability here, his path forward, and so they want to hear that from the chief of staff themselves. in terms of the biden campaign, they are also going to be having a call with senior leadership today, and they did send out some guidance to their entire

staff in wilmington to brace for some polling later today that could be rather difficult for them to digest, that could show a real shift potentially in the race here, but they're trying to insist, according to this email that we obtained that i saw that if you look at "the new york times" polling, which is one that could come out today, they don't expect there to be something so seismic like what many private democrats are saying that's what they're watching for to make a decision about whether to speak out more publicly. they're waiting on that, but they're trying to say that their own internal polling, which we don't have as much of a window into the method on, that that shows that the race is still tight according to the biden campaign, and so they're trying to extend and amplify that message as well. so you're seeing that across the board from the white house to delaware at headquarters that the mission continues to keep doing your work, and that is sort of what young people are waiting to hear a little bit

more from as the most senior aides are still really saying here, ryan, that the president wants to stay in this race, that he's full steam ahead. but as we know, the external pressure is what's really growing here. that's why that meeting are democratic governors later today at the white house could also prove critical. >> we know the president also spoke at a fundraiser last night kind of offered somewhat of an explanation for his debate performance. what did he say? >> he did for the first time speaking without teleprompters at an event like this acknowledge that he had a poor night, that he blamed his foreign travels in the weeks before the debate. remember, he was in france. he was in italy, and he says that really he didn't listen to his staff who maybe had said, well, that's a lot. that's a jam-packed june ahead of the debate. we should also note and point out that he went straight from italy to los angeles for a mega fundraiser with george clooney and former president obama and then returned to the white house with more than ten days of pad

between that and the actual debate in atlanta. that is why he spent six days at camp david, a couple of extra days in rehoboth trying to lead up to that and start to prepare for that. so there was ample time but it was really notable that the president sort of apologized for his performance and did say that in part he felt that poor delivery was because he, quote, almost fell asleep on stage. >> ali, let's turn to you. we have a democrat calling on president biden to end the election. a degree of tone deafness as to the reality of the situation here. what are democrats telling you? >> i think that's the sense i have. i'm sure it's the sense you get from your sources as well, this idea they feel the white house is not treating this as serious as they need to. the outreach has not been as robust as they would need it to be in order for them to continue to go out and say we support this president and draw the

contrast we know they all want to be drawing with former president trump. there is a serious amount of mistrust happening in the party right now. where all these bad feelings go is anyone's guess. yes, you feel a handful of lawmakers on the democratic side in the house coming out and saying they think that biden needs to go or kind of softening it slightly by saying he's going to lose which i think is a horse of the same color. whether or not they're willing to put names on it, whether or not they're willing to sign on to letter drafts that are circulating around the hill but might not have critical mass to send, that's going to be the thing we're waiting for. if this dam is going to break, i think many lawmakers would prefer it to happen now as opposed to when they come back to the hill next week with things unresolved. there is so much unresolved, and there's so much misery and bad feeling right now. it's all over our text messages. >> the anxiety is palpable. it's interesting the president and senator schumer, as far as we know, have not spoke.

we do know that hakeem jeffreys and the president have spoken as we talk about this lack of outreach. what do we think could come from that? >> the fact that they spoke is important and notable. we don't have much detail on what was discussed in that call. we can probably guess pretty well the calls that hakeem jeffries is getting from members of his conference. they're telling you how negatively they feel about the debate performance and this last week of fallout. there's no plans for a caucus wide phone call at this point. i think that's telling in large part because that would be a really messy phone call. but we know the way that hakeem jeffries as leader has handled these moments. i think this is probably the most tumultuous before. he lets his members air their grievances. he's letting them be where they are right now in terms of feeling angry and mistrustful, but whether or not he comes in and said, all right, time to pull us up by our boot straps and get behind the president again, i think a lot of that hinges on this stephanopoulos interview the president is going

to be doing and how it plays in the days after but also the outreach that has not sufficiently been done according to the sources i've talked to from the white house to the hill to say this is the explanation and let's get back in line. >> let's get the view from the other side. david, what are republicans in washington saying? it's notable how quiet donald trump has been about all of this. do republicans want biden to stay in the race? >> of course they want biden to stay in the race. he looks extremely vulnerable. he was losing the race before the debate. the whole reason he wanted this early debate was to reset the race, put himself on a stronger footing heading into the summer and fall, and he failed miserably at doing so. republicans now feel like biden is the best candidate they could face for donald trump to not just win the election but a much larger victory than anyone might have imagined. one of the issues is we haven't really seen him since thursday. no interviews, very little

outreach from him personally, and so the campaign and white house seem to be functioning as though everything is just fine, and everything is not fine, and that's one of the reasons why we started toe see leaks in the dam with democrats starting to discuss the idea he can't win, even if he stays in the race. i want him to get out of the race. the president needs to make the case himself aggressively, something he hasn't done. he needs to do multiple interviews and press conferences, something he hasn't done, in other words he has to give voters a different visual than the one they have from thursday. the fact that he hasn't done so is inexplicable, but it's leading many democrats to believe that he isn't doing it because he can't because things won't look any different. and of course republicans are, as solid as they are, gleefully saying we told you so. we don't believe he's capable. that adds to their sense that they hope and pray he remains in

the race because they believe that he is the easiest for them to beat. >> and we have gotten reporting now that president obama has offered a more pointed critique behind closed doors. he put out a post on x shortly after the debate offering his support of president biden. there's so much democratic hand wringing behind closed doors, david. do they need to start saying these things publicly in order to at least move this process along? >> well, there are two schools of thought. one is you let the president come to this decision on his own because he's prideful. all presidents have egos. if he feels cornered, he's going to resist. on the other hand, i do think it's important for the president and those closest to him to understand where this race is now versus last week. again, they're hanging their hat on this idea that nothing much has changed in the polling. number one, that's not true, and it could only get worse. but numbe two, he was losing. he was losing nationally for

about nine months. he was losing worse in the battleground states for about nine months. yes, it's close, or it was close. but when you're losing, still losing isn't the answer, and i think the more democrats feel threatened, the more they're going to speak up. >> all right, great start, everyone, monica alba, ali vitali, david drucker, thank you all for being here. we appreciate it. for much more on this, we're joined by democratic congressman mike quigley of illinois to get the view of what's happening in his party. i'd like to get your reaction to president biden's comments last night at this private fundraiser that he was traveling too much in the weeks before the debate, implying he was operating on little sleep and jet lag. is that a good enough explanation for you? >> let me begin by saying i would rather be doing and saying anything but this. this is extraordinarily painful. i have the greatest respect for the president and i know how

much he puts into this. he took us back from the clutches of january 6th, restored the rule of law and our democracy, you know, so it's hard to say no. this is more than just a single night's problem. you have to accept the voters where they are, not where you want them to be. so the rigors he talked about just now leading up to this debate are the normal rigors of being the president of the united states. i think he can handle that. of great concern is can he handle that and what was a tough race and the quote attributed to president obama that he just made it a lot tougher, the challenge is going to be brutal now because he has to catch up. the polling at best shows that he stayed where he was. well, he's got to move up in those polls, and how do you convince voters who saw what they saw thursday? there's not going to be another

debate. candidate trump's people are smart enough, there will be very few opportunities for president biden to convince the voters that it was a single night's issue, and that he can win in november unfortunately. >> last night president biden did speak with your leader jeffries on the phone. there has been some frustration from many of your colleagues at the white house the president has not done enough outreach to democrats on the hill. what more would you like to see and hear from him? should the president be calling rank and file members like yourself in talking to him about the path forward to convince you that he's got what it takes to win? >> look, i don't need a call. my ego's not that big, but i think it's telling that in the days after a bad debate from president obama midway through

his time in office, he made those calls immediately. unfortunately very sad, those calls weren't made by president biden immediately to reassure people to help them understand. with respect, it shows, again, an indication of a bigger problem. and frankly, having done this for a long time, most presidential campaigns are very insular. they don't like to be told what to do. they don't like people not going along with the talking points, so you know why this has been so difficult for members to speak out because as difficult as this is, the specter of a second term from president trump is far worse, i think and that's why you'll see more and more members talk about their concerns. >> well, and one of the defense that we're hearing from democrats, it's the defense you're making this morning is the biden agenda has been successful and popular and voters like what he's accomplished in these last three and a half years, but if that's the case and biden's still

lagging behind down ballot democrats and he's tied with trump or even behind in some of these polls, isn't it the president that's the x factor himself that's making this a close race and part of the reason that democrats have to examine what the path forward is? >> i think that's right, and you know, it's unfair. i think president biden has probably had the most underrated presidency in my lifetime at least, but unfortunately, it is back to where the voters are, not where we want them to be. what i would say to the president is your legacy is cemented. you're an important historical figure who has virtually helped save our democracy and perhaps when you made this decision, remember that it not only impacts who will serve in the white house the next four years but who will serve in the senate, who will serve in the house. you really want to give someone who has said they're going to be a dictator the first day in

office, not just control of the white house but the house and the senate, and as you know, the house margins are very slim. control of the house will be single-digits no matter who is in control, and those races maybe 40 or 50 of them are razor thin. you know, the front liners i talked to expressed great concern on the day after the debate because it's their races that are on the line. >> congressman, i don't want to put words in your mouth, but it does seem as though you're open to the idea that president biden stepping aside is a viable option for your party. am i reading what you're telling me correctly? >> look, we all take different approaches to this. i saw what representative doggett said and i know what others might say. we all take a different approach. mine comes from a lot of respect for this man, and i can't feel -- i don't feel like i can tell him what he must do. i can only advise him because --

and obviously no one can tell him. he has to make this decision alone. no one else can. i just ask that he be honest with himself about the situation, what he faces, and what the impact will be on history. >> congressman mike quigley, thank you for being so honest with us, sir, and enjoy your fourth of july. we appreciate you being here. >> thank you. coming up, the historic hurricane ripping through the caribbean, where it is heading next. plus, delay, delay, delay. donald trump won't be sentenced for his felony conviction in new york until september. what does the judge mean when he says, quote, if such is still necessary. also, the new attention on the future of the biden campaign, what do black women voters in one key battleground think if biden dropped out and harris, the vice president was not the choice? we're back in 90 seconds. we're back in 90 seconds ou fore♪

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has the story. >> reporter: it is looking increasingly as if hurricane beryl will be coming through the island of jamaica as a category 4 hurricane, which is either going to go by jamaica or over it according to the national hurricane center. that is a massive difference, which one of those two outcomes actually happens. here there's about 3 million people accustomed to hurricane season. they're accustomed to being prepared for it. beryl is a historic storm, the strongest hurricane ever recorded in june or july. >> this morning hurricane beryl tearing through the caribbean bringing dangerous waves and ferocious winds, flooding buildings and smashing boats to pieces. beryl made landfall in grenada as a category 4 hurricane, leaving almost nothing on the island untouched by its force. one american couple stranded in grenada on their honeymoon. >> told us to eat dinner and stay in our room and do not leave. >> reporter: on the eve of beryl's arrival in jamaica.

residents clearing their iconic beaches. some business owners buckling down but staying put. >> everybody that i've spoke to thus far is worried about how it's going to affect their livelihood. >> but they're not leaving the low lying areas. >> but they're still not leaving. none of us. we're going to stand and ride it out. >> reporter: other feeling emboldened by the way buildings have handled previous storms. >> a lot of the houses here are built to withstand a hurricane. >> reporter: still, the head of jamaica's police force bracing members for the reality ahead. >> i urge you make proper provisions at home, for your loved ones. >> reporter: the violent system arriving as more than 105 million americans brace for what could be a record breaking holiday heat wave with triple digit temperatures in sacramento, las vegas, dallas, and high humidity boosting heat indexes to life-threatening levels in cities like memphis and new orleans. back here in kingston where we're only a couple of miles away from the shoreline and people are bracing, the prime minister of jamaica has declared

the entire island a disaster area. he's implemented a curfew from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and given the green light to local officials to evacuate low lying areas should that be necessary. as of last night, there were no evacuations underway. in kingston, sam brock, nbc news. back to you. >> thank you for that. let's now go to meteorologist angie lassman who has the latest on the track of the storm. angie, how strong is hurricane beryl right now? >> hey, ryan, hurricane beryl remains a major hurricane, category 4 coming in with winds at 145 miles per hour. we've seen a little bit of slower pace in that forward speed but not by much. moving 20 miles per hour over the next day or so, and this means a couple of things for folks specifically in the short-term for jamaica and eventually cayman islands and down the yucatan peninsula. for jamaica we likely will see this pass over or near the island, and that means that either way we are on the right side, the worst side of that system for impact. so we're talking storm surge 6 to 9 feet along the coastline.

we're talking additional rainfall between 4 to 6 inches, but up to a foot in some spots, so mudslides, flooding will be a concern, and on top of that, of course those hurricane force winds that will likely start and be the worst in places like kingston from 12:00 to 4:00 eastern time. down the line, the cayman islands still going to be on the right side of that system. the center will be a little farther away, and we of course are not done with this system just yet. notice we do see a general weakening trend, but it does look to go over the yucatan peninsula as we get into the weekend. again, weakening as it gets into gulf of mexico. exactly where that track is over next few days is going to matter on whether or not we see impacts to the texas coastline or mexico down the line, brian. >> angie lassman, thank you for that update. we appreciate it. if you're not already on your way to your july 4th destination, brace yourself. you'll be grape grappling with record number of travelers. roughly 60 million will travel by car, that's a 5% increase

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a successful delay tactic for donald trump in new york, judge juan merchan approved delaying the former president's sentencing in the hush money case after his lawyer said they needed time to argue the supreme court's immunity decision means that trump should get a new trial. that means the sentencing will now take place on september 18th at the earliest instead of next week when it was originally scheduled. let's bring in msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin and investigative reporter at "the new york times" susanne craig. both of you covered the hush money trial from the courtroom. lisa, what happens now? >> ryan, we're going to see briefing from both sides. first we'll see the brief from the former president on july 10, and then we'll see a brief from

the manhattan d.a.'s office on the 24th of july, and then we've been promised by judge merchan a decision by september 6th. and of course that decision is going to be principally about how the supreme court decision affects the motion to set aside this verdict. not because donald trump is necessarily immune for the acts that he's been charged with but the argument goes like this. the supreme court held that a former president is entitled to immunity not just for his official acts conduct but to the extent that somebody wants to introduce evidence of his official acts even in a case that charges purely private conduct, that evidence can't be admitted and the argument that the former president's lawyers are making is that the evidence in this case included a panoply of tweets, public statements and other things that are reflective of his official acts once he was elected president, ryan. >> so sue, i want to read for you the last line in judge merchan's letter. it says, quote, the july 11th,

2024, sentencing date is therefore vacated. the court's decision will be tendered off calendar on september 6th, 2024, and the matter is adjourned to september 18th, 2024, at 10 ram for the imposition of sentence. if such is still necessary or other proceedings. if such is still necessary, is there a chance here that the charges get thrown out completely? >> you know, i think that anything's possible, but i'm not seeing it. i think he's just leaving that open. lisa can probably slice and dice the legalese of that better than i can. i would say we're going to hopefully be moving ahead barring something else happening in september, but who knows. yeah. >> so let's talk about stormy daniels. she was one of the central witnesses in this hush money case. she spoke to rachel maddow last night. this is what she said about his sentence. take a look. >> taking away his control/ -- which is freedom by a jail

sentence, if that's what -- he's so used to being in control. >> yeah. >> it's not about locking him up. it's not taking away his control would be more helpful in this case, i think, and making him do some community service, especially with those people that he looks down upon so much. >> so judge merchan's already loosened the gag order that trump was facing about this trial. what do we expect to hear from him now? >> i mean, i think the next phase we're going to obviously, i think, hear some information on this issue of presidential immunity. i think we're really now heading towards a sentencing. he has a lot of options open to him, the maximum penalty. he's looking at several years, it could be up to four. i think we're looking more likely at probation, community service, for several weeks of incarceration.

i think one of the things that's going to be weighing on him is the gag order and how trump's behavior during the trial plays into it. you know, there's people who think he may just get probation, that he won't serve any time. but the gag order and how trump violated it over and over during the trial could play into his sentencing decision. i think we're heading now towards september barring something else happening and this political cycle, i think anything could happen, but i think we're looking at sentencing coming in september. >> so lisa, trump, though, he's called the supreme court decision total exoneration, something tells me it's not that simple. what's your response to the president's impression of this? >> i think the president's impression, frankly, ryan, is wrong. first of all, the supreme court said he could still be prosecuted for his private conduct. while they left for another day judge chutkan's determination what constitutes private conduct. you have amy coney barrett saying in her concurrence in part that she considers the fake elector scheme, for example, to be entirely private, that

there's not much analysis for judge chutkan to do because the president of the united states doesn't play any role in the administration of federal elections, for example. so i don't think it's total exoneration. what it more looks like to me is total abdication by the supreme court, sort of foisting off onto judge chutkan determinations that they give her very little guidance about, other than that she can't consider the former president's motive or purpose in distinguishing between official and private. >> and lisa, getting back to the new york case, alvin bragg, didn't even object to a delay. given what we know about his office, how would you expect for them to respond as this case moves along? >> i think what we're going to see in their brief, ryan, is two things. the first thing that they're going to say is these aren't official acts, that the evidence that they introduced that trump is objecting to don't have anything to do with the carrying out of his duties as president. but even if they are official acts and, therefore, off the

table in terms of the evidence at trial, the test is not whether the evidence was improperly admitted, but whether there is a enough left over for the jury to have found that trump committed every element of the crimes with which he's been charged, and they will argue that the evidence on each and every element was so overwhelming that even taking certain things off the table wouldn't have changed that result. i think judge merchan is likely to side with them. but we are going to have to go through this briefing first. we're going to see the sentencing put off by two months. a former president who would have faced a sentence prior to the gop convention now has a comfortable period of time after it before he hears what the court's verdict will be. >> thank you, guys. we appreciate you being here. this week president biden is hitting the campaign trail amid bleak poll numbers and that disastrous debate performance. on sunday he'll return to pennsylvania, the same state where he launched his re-election bid. msnbc's symone sanders townsend

and legal analyst melissa murray sat down with a group of black women in pennsylvania to discuss if the campaign can be saved or if it's time for the democratic party to move on. >> did anybody here think that joe biden after seeing that first debate that joe biden should drop out of the race? >> i hope that both candidates would drop out of the race, both. i didn't like either one of them. i didn't think they represented the united states well, and that's to joy's point, being in a different country, i traveled outside the country a while ago to visit joy and i get it. people are looking at the united states like what are you all doing? what are you all collectively smoking? it's embarrassing. so i wanted them both to drop out. >> same here. absolutely. wish they would both drop out. i'm a bit worried about biden's ability to be able to run a country. i don't know if he'll be able to

do it if he is elected for the next four years, and i do think he has other options within the party who could step up and carry out similar things that he wants to be carried out. it just doesn't -- i don't think it should be him. >> trump is only a few years younger than biden, do you worry about his ability to run the country? not just age but like mentally -- >> cognitively. that man is unhinged, absolutely, yeah, no, i don't trust trump at all. >> joining us now is msnbc legal analyst melissa murray to talk more about this conversation. melissa, i've been covering presidential campaigns going back to 2008 f. there's one thing i've learned, perhaps the most powerful voting block is black women. so you talked to black women in one of the most important states, and just based on that clip, it sounds like pretty much disappointment with both candidates. >> there was uniform disappointment with both candidates. i do want to underscore, these are suburban voters. and they were really focused on the question of democracy. they believe that democracy is

on the ballot, that this is an existential threat to democracy going forward, and that's what they are concerned with, so while they were disappointed in both of these candidates ultimately, they are going to go to the polls, and they are going to cast a vote not for a candidate but for democracy. >> that's interesting. of course there's a conversation here about president biden's future in the race and that could impact kamala harris, the vice president who is a black woman. who specifically did this group tell you about their thoughts on the vice president? >> well, ryan, there was a lot of support and admiration for the vice president among the group, but these ladies, as i said, were very focused on the practicalities of winning in november. so let's take a listen to alexis, who was one of the younger members of the group. part of that demographic that both parties are trying to court right now. >> i just think strategically at this point if we were to -- on at least the democratic side, we all know that polling for vice

president harris isn't as high as we would like, even if all of us -- or i can't speak for everyone in here, but have great feelings towards her and think she's a great vice president, and i just think at this point is that going to be a sure loss for us if we switch up or do we hedge our bets and hope that biden will pull through, at least on the democratic side. but yeah, i think both of them i think, in my opinion, i agree with people who say there should be, you know, age limits or just term limits on all of our federal offices and so, yeah, again, it's just kind of -- >> including the supreme court. >> exactly. yes. >> so as you can see, ryan, they are very practically minded. they love vice president harris. they admire her a great deal. they think she's done a great job as vice president, but what they want is to win in november because they believe democracy is at stake and so they are not voting with their hearts.

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the united nations says that a quarter of a million people are impacted by israel's latest evacuation order in gaza. ordering people to flee con eunice, a brutal journey with temperatures well into the 90s. it comes amid reports of a widening rift between israel's top generals and prime minister netanyahu. israel's top generals want a cease fire in gaza while netanyahu remains strongly opposed. joining us from tel aviv is nbc's matt bradley, what is israel saying is the purpose of these new evacuations? >> reporter: yeah, what we're hearing from the israelis is that they were ordering the evacuations because they were taking incoming fire from khan yunis. we heard this on monday that there were 20 projectiles that were fired from khan yunis toward israel. that was claimed by islamist jihad, which is a major partner

of hamas. the israelis retaliated and fired missiles back. this is not the first time that khan yunis has been ordered to evacuation. it's been the scene of fierce fighting since back in december. we've seen this constantly throughout. this calls into question some of the assertions we've been hearing from the israelis over the past several weeks that they're entering a new phase of, quote, less intensive phase of fighting in the gaza strip. they're going to be doing more pinpoint operations. we haven't heard the israelis saying they're going to start a ground invasion again into khan yunis. with this evacuation order and now we're seeing tens of thousands already moving, you know, it looks as though this could be imminent, ryan. >> what more do we know about these divisions between netanyahu and his generals? >> reporter: yeah, well, this headline made a big splash yesterday, of course, and we've been hearing a lot about this actually for the past several months. a lot of the complaints we've been hearing from the generals, some of which have surfaced in

public including the spokesman, daniel hagar ree, he actually came out and said that hamas can't be defeated militarily. this was a couple of weeks ago. he now backtracked on that and said this was really about hamas's indelible ideology and not about their military capabilities, but that was something that really caused a lot of damage and gave a rare sighting of some of the discord between the top military brass and benjamin netanyahu and his allies in the government. we heard from benjamin netanyahu, he came out and said he doesn't know who any of these anonymous sources who were quoted in this article are, but he said it's not going to happen. there isn't going to be a cease fire without hamas being completely destroyed. but again, we've been hearing these complaints for months and they track closely with some of the complaints we've been hearing from washington about netanyahu's administration as well. ryan. >> matt bradley, thank you for that report. next, how much could this holiday cost you. we're breaking down the price you pay to celebrate july 4th.

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right now, millions of americans are getting ready for their fourth of july celebrations. from barbecues to parades to fireworks, americans will be turning out in record numbers. joining me now to help break down what we can expect this fourth is nbc news business and data correspondent brian cheung.

so, brian, what more can you tell us about what to expect tomorrow? >> happy almost fourth to you. a few statistics on the fourth of july, how many are planning to travel, millions of americans are expected to hit the skies and roads. 70.9 million traveling over 50 miles, over 60 million will drive 5.74 million will fly. tsa is warning the top destinations, seattle, orlando, anchorage. in terms of the expenditures for people perhaps staying home doing some cookouts, inflation is still out there. people expected to spend $9.4 billion in total food costs acording to the national retail federation or the american farm federation bureau. $4 billion expected to be spent on cold ones for the parties on alcohol and beer, $71.22 is the average cost of a barbecue for a party of ten. if you break that out per hamburger, just over $2, which is still cheaper than dining out. so that's a good way to avoid some of the costs with food away

from home 4% more expensive now than this time last year. cooking out at home, good way to save on the july 4th. >> brian cheung, thank you for that. coming up in our next hour, the high heat threatening folks ahead of independence day and the worst times for traffic with nearly 71 million people expected to travel. plus, damage control for the biden/harris campaign and how the trump team is using this chaos to their benefit. we're back after this quick break. chaos to their benefit we're back after this quick break.

welcome back. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern, 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm ryan nobles in for jose diaz-balart. we begin with new developments in the intensifying debate over the future of president joe biden's candidacy. today, the white house is ramping up its damage control efforts after a debate in which biden has acknowledged to donors he performed poorly. happening in the next hour, a source tells nbc news that the white house chief of staff jeff zients will hold a call to tell the full white house staff to, quote, keep their heads down and weather the political storm. and moments ago, we learned the biden campaign sent an all staff memo this morning saying they expect new polling today, which, quote, is likely to show a slightly larger swing in the race. president biden also spoke with house minority leader hakeem jeffries last night, after