party together. >> two new fans. >> that's right. >> i was told mika was going to be here. what happened? i wanted to meet mika. >> you can't get everybody. >> two out of three. >> i wanted willie too. i got two out of four, though, that's pretty cool. >> well, you sound kind of disappointed, sam, i'm not going to lie. >> no, no, no, i'm very happy. >> wherever i go, i show up at places and people are like, it's very good to meet you, joe. where's mika? >> but that means you did well. >> i did very well. i did very well. >> yeah. >> and you did very well too and we're going to see how well you did on july the 9th. i know it's going to be a huge hit. thank you so much. >> all right, and that does it for us this morning. thank you guys so much for watching. richard lui picks up the coverage in 30 seconds.

right now on msnbc, we're tracking a make or break day for president biden as some democrats call on him to drop his re-election bid. biden is bringing one message to wisconsin. >> you got me, man. i'm not going anywhere. >> a rally in that crucial battleground, and he'll sit down for a prime time interview while he is there with one goal, convince voters he is still up to the job and still the best choice for defeating donald trump. and new this morning, another report showing the jobs

market remains solid, but there are some signs of cooling. we'll tell you what the latest numbers mean for the economy. plus, we're following hurricane beryl as that deadly storm slams into mexico and heads for texas by the end of the weekend. ♪♪ it is 10:00 a.m. eastern. i'm richard lui reporting from new york with you this afternoon, and today could be the most high stakes and highly scrutinized day of president biden's political career. in a few hours, he'll rally in wisconsin, a state he won by a razor thin 20,000 votes in 2020, and then he'll sit down for an interview with abc news. his first televised interview since last week's debate that upended the 2024 campaign. all of washington, big money donors across the country and leaders around the world will be closely watching what he says, how he says it and how he looks as voters watch to see if he can calm the mounting fears about

his candidacy and his ability to take on donald trump. let's go to nbc's allie raffa who's at the white house. also with us, nbc's vaughn hillyard. also, the host of "woke af" daniel moody and former representative charlie dent. the president has a very busy and crucial day, how does it look? >> reporter: yeah, richard, it really cannot be underscored enough how high the stakes are for the president today with all eyes, but especially the eyes of democratic donors, democratic lawmakers on capitol hill on the president watching every move he makes, every word out of his mouth as he travels to wisconsin today. really that extra attention started last night at this fourth of july barbecue the president held where the president tried to remind americans of what is at stake in the 2024 election. listen to some of his comments. >> we must look at ourselves and

ask the question, will we stand for freedom again? we stand for democracy. we stand together as americans. i believe we will and we can. we got to just remember who the hell we are. we're the united states of america! >> reporter: as you mentioned, richard, one part of the day is going to be dedicated to this rally in madison, wisconsin, and then we know that the president will sit down with george stephanopoulos for that interview with abc news that's expected to air in full in prime time tonight at 8:00 p.m., so lots and lots of eyes on that interview. the big questions now are whether the damage done from that poor performance at last week's debate is irreversible and really whether the president, even though he's remaining defiant, he's saying he is staying in this race to win it, whether he's up for this challenge and whether this extra attention, these extra eyes on him inevitably possibly force him to make a misstep or have any of those gaffes, richard.

>> allie how is the campaign responding to the question what if the performance does not come out as good as they hoped it to be? >> reporter: the biden campaign is preparing for a long-haul effort. they announced this morning that the president, the vice president, the second gentleman, the first lady, they will all go to every single battleground state this month campaigning on the record of this administration, and the biden campaign is hoping that at least that will start to ease these growing concerns among democratic lawmakers, among voters, among donors who have pulled out funding and are shifting more to races in the house and senate. the question now is whether the president can deliver, whether any possible misstep will set the campaign back on this effort, richard. >> vaughn, former president trump, how is he handling? how are they strategiing what may happen today and in the coming days? we certainly have heard comments

over the last couple of days. >> largely over social media. he's had no public events here over the course of this weekend. he has rallies in florida, as well as in pennsylvania over the next week, but for donald trump to a certain extent, he has not gone on for tv interviews. he has sort of allowed this story line and joe biden and democrats' efforts to regain control of their own situation to play out. now, when you're talking about this interview here today, obviously the social media account of donald trump is always a good place to go to track where his thoughts are at, and that is exactly what he's done over the last 24 hours. look, he's not only taken on and attacked the individual doing the interview, george stephanopoulos of abc, but in another post, he made it clear by saying, quote, let's do another debate, but this time no holds barred, an all-on discussion with just the two of us on stage talking about the future of our country. of course, there is just two debates that were agreed to by these two camps.

it was donald trump for months who was making the claim anytime, anywhere, and that led to the biden campaign agreeing to that first debate. early debate in june, but they do not have the second debate, which was agreed to until september. so donald trump looking to drive home and stick in the idea that he would be eager to make himself available to go on tv with joe biden sharing the stage with him. of course there is, again, nothing slated in that element until september, richard. >> and danielle, the president really addressing at least three groups, those on the base, those who are absolutely behind him, those who have some questions, and you have the independents certainly. that's why he's in wisconsin. what can he accomplish today? >> i mean, look, i wish that we had a lot more scrutiny on the things that donald trump has been saying, with in fact, that he's saying he wants to be a dictator on day one, that the supreme court on july 1st gave him the ability to do that and how dangerous the trump administration 2.0 could be for

this country and for our democracy wholeheartedly. people have bad debates. joe biden is not the first president to have had a bad debate. i'm not too old to have remembered when hillary clinton had the flu on the 2016 campaign trail and that's all the media could talk about, right? the focus here needs to be on project 2025 and the reimagining of america through a conservative lens that does not see all americans as a part of that project. and so it's really important for this president to nail that home and move the conversation away from him and move it to what kind of future we want america to have. >> you know, charlie, working off of what danielle said there, when we were looking at some of the reporting coming out of the guardian and ap, they had outlined 11 statements that were incorrect made by the former president, former president trump, and six made by president biden. why haven't democrats been able to necessarily get that message out? the focus certainly being on president biden and can he, if

you will, dig himself out from that performance a week ago? >> look, everybody knows that donald trump, you know, makes a lot of wild ere rattic statements. this is nothing new. many voters are looking at this race right now as one candidate who may be incapable and the other unimaginable. even prior to this debate, nearly two-thirds of americans thought one candidate was too old and the other too dangerous or crazy. the debate simply validated and confirmed that feeling. and frankly, i'm down here at the jersey shore, and this area at this time of year is populated by a lot of people from pennsylvania, and i got to tell you, i haven't run into one person who thinks joe biden should continue running. they might say he shouldn't run again, or they'll say they're not sure he can run again. nobody's saying he should go forward. people need to get out of this washington bubble. that debate chs not simply a bad debate. that was a meltdown, epic meltdown, catastrophic. this election is not about the last four years. it is about the next four years,

and many ordinary americans in swing states who aren't in the tank for one candidate or the other are saying they're not sure this guy can do the job for the next four years. >> vaughn, how is the trump campaign dealing with some of the criticisms coming across from the actualities that i just described that the former president had misstated many particular facts that were important to his platform? >> number one, they don't retract any statements that donald trump makes. that's not something that they do, and i think that this is where it comes down to, the fact that to a great degree the american public has become now more immune to the fact that donald trump lies. we know that there was acknowledgment among voters that donald trump is somebody who does not stick to the facts of a situation or muddies or, you know, in the case of january 6th makes assertions about responsibility for the attack and actions that he did, in

fact, and actually take around the event that is pretty well stated and understood, the events that happened that day. yet, for donald trump, that is not the -- that is not politically advantageous to him, so he has found it and, frankly, has had little political brushback outside losing the 2020 election for making statements like that. right now when he sees polling for him where he does. he sees little reason to veer away from the types of characterizations of events even if they are, in fact, not accurate ones. >> danielle, as we look at what the president may say today, how are you going to be looking at his interview? >> i mean, i'm going to be looking at his interview for what i've constantly been looking at joe biden to do, to fight for the american people, to tell us what's at stake in this election, to make it be beyond a vanity project about who is too old or who doesn't walk right or who trips or who stutters. the fact is our democracy is on

the line. the world is watching, and when we now have a supreme court that has said that the next president can function as a king and you're giving that king power to a 34 count felon, i think that everyone in america should be concerned, should be terrified as we make it to the four months that we have down the line until the election. so i'm looking for the president to give that strong conviction of a defense of american democracy. >> all right, if the four of you could stand by because we're turning now to some breaking news on the state of the economy. just coming in today, the job market still showing signs of resilience here. the government reporting this morning that employers added 206,000 jobs last month, just above the 200,000 that economists had predicted. i want to get over to brian cheung, nbc news business and data correspondent. brian, some good news there, but there's a lot of detail behind it. >> as you mentioned, those numbers telling us a little bit more about the state of the job

markets. one economist at fitch saying slowly but surely labor market conditions are cooling. as you mentioned, yes, 206,000 jobs added in the month of june. that was basically in line with what economists had expected of 200,000. here's what people are watching closely. the unemployment rate ticking up a little bit to 4.1%. you're going to see some headlines that say we haven't seen the unemployment rate above 4% in over two years. when you look at the historical context, here's the unemployment rate over the last five years, this is still historically quite low and much lower than the 15% unemployment rate that we saw when the pandemic was happening and led to a quite unusual economy. when we unpack this and take a look at the individual industries where we saw the job gains in the month, this is very interesting. the biggest jobs gains driver in this month was government hires, around 70,000 added in the month. again, this is for june. health care also adding almost 50,000 construction jobs, adding 27,000, but interestingly, leisure and hospitality, these are bars and restaurants, adding only 7,000 jobs in the month.

i point this out because this sector was the major driver of job gains post-pandemic. this industry slowing down in job gains might tell us that the overall labor market, which has been hot as of the post-pandemic period might be cooling down as well. but here's what the biden administration is going to be watching very closely. again, the story for this economy doesn't necessarily relate to people losing jobs, although that's happening in some sectors but overall with the unemployment rate, the biggest story for americans is inflation, inflation, inflation, prices rising. the pace of inflation is 3.3%, but this jobs report tells us that wages are increasing at 3.9%. these are yearly rates, wages outpacing inflation, that's a story that started to happen in the summer of last year. the biden administration in a statement reacting to this jobs report saying this is real progress. this is something that's going to be a major focus as we get closer to the election, richard. >> brian, thank you so much for that comparison and breakdown. very much appreciate it. back to our guests here, and i'll go to you, charlie, on

this. this is 40-plus months that we have seen job growth, which is good news if you're in the white house right now. why -- and this question is not the first time it's being asked, right -- why has this administration been unable to get across these solid numbers as they're out campaigning? >> well, as you just stated it's all over inflation. prices are still very high from when we came out of the pandemic. housing prices are high. interest rates are high. the rents and housing, particularly for younger people, are just so high that they can't afford homes. they're living with their parents. that's why there's this discontent. food prices, we've never seen such a dramatic increase in food prices over the last few years, and that is also driving the angst about the economy. it's true the jobs numbers are quite good, but there might be some cooling. the real question now is what is the fed going to do? what are they going to -- when are they going to start lowering interest rates?

we don't know if this report is going to push the fed in that direction. but as long as inflation or the perception of inflation is still out there, there will be a negative feeling about the economy by most voters. >> vaughn, how are both sides discussing this issue? it is always the number one issue that voters at the end of the day do vote on as you've reported so many times for many of the candidates that you've been on the road with. how are they discussing it today, and will these numbers make it in to the conversation given so much other noise, if you will, is out there around the economy? >> right, and that's where joe biden and his campaign are trying to focus on some big picture numbers. 15 million new jobs that have been added sense the biden administration came into office. of course a large segment of that was over pandemic recovery after -- during the trump administration, over the course of the four years, millions of jobs were lost but that was responsibly due to 2020 and the loss of jobs, so the biden

administration are focused on that top line number. they're also focused on making the case to americans that inflation is slowing. that the price of food is steadying out here. but as charlie just noted here, there's a lot of realities that folks are dealing with on an everyday basis, and that is where donald trump and his campaign are trying to hammer home that life today is not the same as it was when he was in office, and if you look at housing prices, if you look at food prices. that is where they try to place on the biden administration. yet, at the same time, when you look at for instance other economic figures, you have during the trump administration, more than $8 trillion added to the national debt, and that's the biden campaign making the case that for all of the talk of the impact that democrats have and big spending and economic repercussions that during the biden administration just a little over 4 trillion has been added to the national debt, just about half that that was during the trump administration. >> great conversation, thank you

so much vaughn hillyard, former congressman charlie dent, appreciate your time, allie raffa white house correspondent as well as danielle moodie, host of "woke af" podcast. the latest on a monster storm's path as it heads towards texas. and the battle to put out a wildfire in california that has forced thousands to evacuate. plus, the uk's fourth prime minister since 2019, and he's ushered out 14 years of conservative rule. who is he, and what does it mean for our country's relationship across the pond? later, if you have a summer trip planned, what you need to know about the overtourism causing crowds and chaos. we're back in 90. ckba in 90 snacking. just. got. serious. introducing new $3 footlong dippers. the world might not be ready for them... ...but at $3 a pop? your wallet definitely is.

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olivehurst, california, just arriving. nbc's guad venegas who's covering beryl, and nbc meteorologist michelle grossman. steve, we know you've been on the road here following several of the wildfires there in california. tell us about what you're seeing. >> reporter: yeah, we're literally popping out of our car here in olivehurst. it's about a 200 mile drive south to where another fire has popped up. 'tis the season, right, richard? this fire danger extremely elevated right now with conditions that we're looking at. this is the french fire, it's in mariposa, california, which is often thought about as the gateway to yosemite, a lot of tourists go there. a lot of people trying to go into the park wind up there. that town right now is under siege. it is a fast-moving fire. 840 acres, it is threatening thousands of homes, thousands of people evacuated right now as they're trying to get control of this fire.

meanwhile, still here in butte county where we are, thousands of people evacuated from the thompson fire, one of the nine fires that you mentioned. many of them had to flee with the shirts on their backs. we spoke to a few of those people, including a woman who said she had to evacuate her 90-year-old father. listen to this. >> it was panic because my dad didn't want to leave, and i told him you got to get in the car right now. >> reporter: but because there's no room left for her dog, she spent the last two days outside in the heat. >> it's really sad. live here in 108 degrees. i'm more worried about my dad. >> reporter: so again, this is the nature of these fires. we're in a parking lot. we're literally using our cell phone as our camera. we've got a few miles' drive, but we are hearing firefighters thankfully had some favorable winds overnight at this new fire in mariposa. they've gotten a small amount of

containment on it, but it's still extremely dangerous, as is all the fires right now burning across the west. >> steve, quickly behind you, is that the haze or the morning fog i see in the horizon behind you? >> that's just the morning fog, we are far from the fire, or what we'd be able to see from the fire line at this point. we're still about 100 miles drive down south, so when we get closer, of course, we'll update you. this is just how all of california looks like at about 6:00 in the morning, richard. >> that's right. thank you for stopping and for your reporting. we'll see you at the next location as we try to cover this story. appreciate it. guad, what kind of preparations -- speaking of what we're looking at -- are underway for beryl in mexico. we're looking at specifically brownsville, right, in texas. >> correct, richard. the area in mexico where the storm made landfall this morning is used to these types of storms. this is the mayan riviera where a lot of tourists visit. these are large hotels that are

prepared for a storm like this one. there was a message sent from the president to people that live in the vulnerable communities in the smaller areas in that part of the yucatan peninsula asking people to prioritize their well-being and not their property. many times a lot of the individuals in those communities will stay at home because they fear for their property. they were asking them to go to the shelters that have been set up. the hurricane is currently going over the yucatan peninsula, and there's still a lot of close attention being paid to the capital of yucatan. that will probably be the largest city in the path of the storm right now in mexico. and then after that the forecast indicates that it would be moving into the gulf and then towards that part of texas and brownsville. now, two weeks ago that's the same area that was slammed by alberto, so they had a lot of local authorities, counties, and cities and the state prepare for that storm. they dealt with some flooding, so essentially they're tapping into the same resources, the governor in texas greg abbott has made the texas division of

emergency management available with all of its agencies. so as of 10:00 a.m. this morning, including the national guard, they will be ready so that the local governments can tap into that help as the storm begins hitting them up in that part of texas. >> yeah, it goes over the yucatan and we look at tulum, many international tourists stopping there as you know so well there, guad including americans that stop in tulum, so it's going to be quite a situation as we speak. guad venegas, thank you so much. you're tracking both of these weather patterns, both the high heat and the west across the united states as well as when we look at what beryl is doing. where would you like to start? >> well, let's start with beryl because we're looking at this dangerous storm. it's impacting the yucatan peninsula. it will be impacting the yucatan peninsula today. a category 2 storm, winds with 100 miles per hour has slowed down a little bit in speed. it's a little bit weaker. when you have that land interaction, that's what's happening. we're looking at winds at 100 miles per hour, moving to the

northwest at 15 miles per hour. then we're going to track the alerts here. we're looking all across the yucatan peninsula. we have a hurricane warning for cozumel. we have a hurricane watch for parts of the yucatan peninsula as well as a tropical storm warning. we're seeing those impacts right now, the rough seas, the damaging winds, the really heavy rainfall. we're going to see really heavy rainfall with this system as we go throughout the next couple of days. this is the track of this storm. as we go throughout time here, we do expect it to weaken to a tropical storm status as it kind of gets across the gulf, and then it's going to restrengthen. it's going to use the fuel and the warmth of the gulf to restrengthen to a category 1 storm. notice this path, we're starting to see this creep a little bit further to the north. so we're going to watch this very closely because we certainly could see that landfall in southern texas. we're looking at the time frame of monday morning. that's with beryl, and then we'll end it here, we're looking at 133 million people under heat alerts in the west coast along with portions of the southeast as well. >> anywhere in the gulf, you

don't know what's going to happen. quickly on the heat. >> 133 million people under heat alerts. we're looking at temperatures in the triple digits in some spots. some spots we're looking at heat indices in the south as high as 110. there are your heat alerts along the west. we're looking from the northwest all the way down to the southwest. this is inland, mott along the coast. and then as you look towards the south, the southeast into the carolinas and mid-atlantic. we are looking at temperatures very, very hot, very above normal for this time of the year, 5, 15, 25 degrees above normal. take a look at some of these numbers. reading, california, 118. that's 19 degrees above normal. back to you. >> yeah, all right, michelle grossman, thank you for updating us. next, a uk electoral blowout. the new prime minister who just took power and what it means for the u.s. plus, the deadline in donald trump's classified documents case, but what role could the new presidential immunity ruling play? al immunity ruling play (woman) i'm so excited. i'm finally here in the city.

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it's the beginning of a new era in british politics after the nation's labour party won thursday's election in an historic landslide ending 14 years of conservative party rule. here's the newly elected prime minister keir starmer after his meeting this morning with king charles. >> changing a country is not like flicking a switch. the world is now a more volatile place. this will take a while, but have

no doubt that the work of change begins immediately. >> joining us now nbc news international correspondent raf sanchez who's live in london in front of 10 downing. you've been following this all throughout this last phase, if you will, raf, and as you look at the outcome, it was expected, but this was a huge landslide. tell us about the significance of what it might mean for the united states and what's happening here politically, and just as a matter of comparison, is this like if the u.s. congress swung 100 seats one way or the other? is that the magnitude of what we saw in the uk? >> it's an absolutely enormous swing, richard. this is the biggest majority for any party since tony blair won back in 1997, not to go down a constitutional 101 session, but in the uk, it's almost like if the legislature and the

executive branch were merged into one, keir starmer is the prime minister of the united kingdom. he is its executive, but he also is the leader of the biggest party in the legislative branch, and after winning that landslide victory last night, just a couple of hours later he was right here at downing street. as you said, he spoke to the british people for the first time as their prime minister. he said the work of change begins immediately, and he wasn't kidding. he's been in there about three hours now, and every couple of minutes, we are seeing his future cabinet secretaries walking down downing street going in that door, and they are getting their marching orders from their new boss. the defense secretary, the foreign secretary, the deputy prime minister all going in. now, the last bit of choreography we are expecting today is that the new prime minister is likely to speak to president biden, that important first phone call between these

close allies, and the two are likely to meet in washington next week when the president hosts this nato summit. these are two men with closely compatible foreign policy views. the question is how close do keir starmer's views align with a potential second term donald trump. richard. >> all righty, raf sanchez with that breaking news coming in to us, just today a new prime minister as well as a new leading party there in the parliament in the uk. thank you so much. with four months until election day, some top supporters of former president trump have already revealed detailed plans for what he could do if he's reelected. the conservative heritage foundation put forward a 900 page plan to transform the federal government known as project 2025. here's the president of the heritage foundation, kevin roberts. >> the reason that so many anchors on msnbc, for example, are losing their minds daily is

because our side is winning, and so i come full circle in this response and just want to encourage you with some substance that we are in the process of the second american revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allow to be. >> joining us now joyce vance, former u.s. attorney and an msnbc legal analyst, a lot to react to just in that one statement. first of all, i know that you have written on project 2025. why is it important for voters to know about that, joyce? >> so the heritage foundation, which is a conservative think tank, has put this together using a number of authors for chapters about virtually every cabinet level agency and other parts of government. these are many of them folks who were involved in the trump administration. and it sets forth their vision for a next generation conservative republican presidency, whoever wins in 2024. and the vision in many ways is a dark and an antidemocratic one.

you hear mr. roberts saying that their goals, that their views can be implemented and it doesn't have to be a blood letting as long as democrats are willing to go along. it doesn't sound to me like that's the position of an american believer in democracy and the republic. it doesn't sound like the view of someone who thinks they're winning. it's a very dark view for the future. >> joyce, talk about what you're an expert in, when we speak about the justice department, what could this transformation, what could this plan do to the justice department, if it is implemented? >> well, it's ironic that republicans on the hill have been holding hearings about the weaponization of the justice department, which they allege has happened under joe biden. nothing like that's happened. we've seen president biden stay far back from controlling the justice department in situations even involving the conviction of his own son. but project 2025 along with many

of the comments that donald trump has made publicly are a map for using the justice department both to punish donald trump's enemies and to help out his friends, so we should all be very concerned. 2025, the project, it's online. you can read it for yourself. you can take a look at the chapter on the justice department and assess what you as a voter and as an american think about it. >> joyce, what about the checks and balances that could impede the implementation of project 2025 if president trump were to win and then you look at the institutions and what it might do as he tries to implement project 2025? >> right, what the founders envisioned was this robust system of checks and balances that kept any branch of government from wielding outsized power against the others. the problem with donald trump is that we know that all of the norms are off the table. he's no respecter of the way the republic functions and is

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there's no tomorrow, and to think our kids just wanted to enjoy themselves. >> their children, 20-year-old kyla and 18-year-old aaliyah gonzales were shot and killed during the worst mass shooting in baltimore's history. 28 others were wounded. >> i found my son, but in order for me to get to my son, i went past aliyah first. when crystal got there and the way she screamed, any mother would have felt that in their bones. >> that was the beginning of the worst night of my life. >> reporter: kyla and aliyah died after people started shooting at the brooklyn day event, an annual block party held in the community. >> he wanted to become a traveling ultrasound tech, and he was supposed to leave on that monday, so yeah, he wanted to go and help people. >> aliyah was the warmest,

compassionate beautiful soul i've ever encountered. this should have never happened, and this could have been prevented. >> nine victims remain at area hospitals. >> reporter: that sentiment that this did not have to happen echo bid baltimore's top brass. last year mayor brandon scott release add report detailing the actions of multiple city agencies. baltimore's police department was singled out for failing to respond to multiple warnings as the crowd swelled to an estimated 900 people, and for officer indifference to several calls for help including reports that some in the crowd were armed. >> they didn't give a damn, plainly and bluntly. >> i'm trying to locate your address, okay? >> it's brooklyn homes, brooklyn homes. >> okay. they're shooting again! they're shooting again. >> okay, get down, ma'am, get down. >> the people who were calling,

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before you pack your bags and hit the road, locals of popular tourist areas are asking you to take a beat, warning you to think about something called overtourism. nbc's emilie ikeda has been looking into this for us. overtourism takes me a second to think about and then it's very obvious what this might be. >> think about it, you're planning your trip and you're like, i think it would be amazing to see mt. fuji or experience the serenity of a national park. and you go and realize thousands of people also had the same idea. there's pros and cons, some communities benefiting from the economic boost and some

communities feeling the negatives, the crowds and the impacts to other things. and so, now, they're pushing back. with summer travel soaring to record levels some popular destinations are now trying to slow the surge of tourists. >> it gets busier earlier and earlier every single year. >> reporter: crowds like these have become the norm in salem, massachusetts, and not just in october. >> dance with me my darling. >> reporter: the halloween hot spot famous for hocus pocus films, along with witch trials has spun up year round traffic and some say it's just too chaotic. >> it's really -- increasingly difficult to live in downtown salem. >> now, the city of 45,000 is trying to scare away some crowds. with new $350 licensing fees for tour guides, a massive jump from the previous cost of just $10. >> i have 37 tour guides, and

that means 37 times 350. >> reporter: tour operator beth crowley insists the tours aren't the problem. >> the tours are actually keeping people from wandering around. >> reporter: salem's not alone. overtourism has become a growing challenge across the country. look at america's national parks. >> national parks are like the disneyland of outdoors. they are super packed, super touristy. more parks having to require timed entry reservations to ease congestion, like mt. ranier. >> the impact of overtourism was to accentuate it because frankly we want to travel now more than ever. >> reporter: travelers in the u.s. spent $1.3 trillion in 2023, producing an economic footprint of nearly $3 trillion. a boost that in some cases comes at a cost. at japan's magnificent mt. fuji there's a new fee and visitor

cap. and even venice, italy, a tourist mainstay -- >> st. marks square is super crowded. >> reporter: is now charging day trippers to help thin out throngs of sight seers. >> every major country in the world is staring down the barrel of this issue. too many tourists in the same place at the same time. >> reporter: and perhaps unsurprisingly, experts say one of the biggest drivers of overtourism, social media. everyone wants that perfect shot, that perfect picture. >> yeah, too many pictures. emilie ikeda, thank you so much for that reporting. in our next hour for you, the high-stakes interview for president biden that could be a major test for folks who doubt he's capable of running for reelection, plus, the potentially promising breakthrough in cease-fire talks between israel and hamas. more msnbc reports after a short break, don't go anywhere.

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