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if there isn't one, read and heed warnings on signs. it can talk about bacteria. and the advice, stay hydrated. that might mean swapping cocktails for water. it's a price we have to pay. >> there you go. maggie, thank you so much. that's it for me. have a great weekend. ali vitali picks things up right now. good day. i'm ali vitali in washington. president biden adamant he will keep running for president, even as he appears to be running out of time to calm critics. today's rally in wisconsin, the latest in mental and physical tests the president will have to pass to prove he can stay in the race. the looming question, what if he fails? former president donald trump doing something he rarely does. letting the political spotlight shine on someone else.
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how he is trying to capitalize on biden's struggles by staying quiet and how this might impact his choice for a running mate. danger in paradise. hurricane beryl roars ashore. now it's texas bracing for impact. the latest on the storm's track. we have lots to get to. it's tough to think of a presidential campaign rally in july with higher stakes than the one president biden is headed to right now. with his re-election bid threatened by a rising tide of democratic jitters and discontent, an interview that will air later tonight gives the president a chance to assuage a panic party and quiet some of the voices calling for him to drop out. despite that, the president has been clear, he is staying in this race. his campaign is backing him up, launching a $50 million ad blitz and an aggressive travel schedule that includes visiting
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every battleground state this month. >> thank you. you got me, man. i'm not going anywhere. >> kelly o'donnell is at her post at the white house. sam stein is managing editor at the bulwark and an msnbc contributor. also with us, former u.s. congresswoman from maryland, donna edwards, who is an msnbc political analyst. adam gentleson who worked for john fetterman and harry reid. kelly, there's going to be tons of scrutiny on this wisconsin event as there have been on the radio interviews and his appearance yesterday. what's the strategy today and charting this path forward? >> reporter: the president left the white house just several minutes ago heading for the airport. every movement, every word, how he comes across will all be scrutinized and seen through the lens of life post debate and the
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current stakes he faces. he says he will continue in the race, can't be pushed out. there are those in the party who have expressed concerns about his fitness to remain candidate. donors and others in the wider democratic community who are concerned about his chances of winning. part of what we are hearing from officials, campaign side, white house side, is a sense of the awareness of those stakes. he must do well. he must be visible. there must be more regular and obvious interactions with the press and with the public, more of those unscripted moments. he is known to give speeches as always presidents do using a teleprompter, but to break away from that more so people can get a sense of how he is doing, how he is functioning. just a real measure of the man as a candidate now under all this scrutiny. that happens today. a rally in madison, wisconsin. the interview. we expect to see things added.
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you pointed out the push from the campaign. they have an aggressive approach for what they will do in july. there's limited time for the president to try to change impressions, to try to shore up support and to create some new impressions if he is able to do that that could solidify his base. there are many members of his party who say they are standing with him. others who tell us privately and hinting at it that they want to see how this goes before they make an assessment. >> sam, it sounds like the short way of summarizing the campaign strategy is, they want biden to do more. more appearances, more aggressive travel. you have people like "the wall street journal's" peggy noonan saying, he can't execute it. he tried do it last week. the debate was a live high stakes interview. he won't be able to do it next week or next month. it gets worse, not better.
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what she's arguing there and raises the question, what if he does do more as he is being told to do and it fails? >> that's the conundrum the campaign faces. when biden went into the debate, it was with the idea that he would show his vitality, show that he was up to the task. he said, watch me, when he was questioned about his vitality and mental acuity. we did. i think the problem here is that the campaign has not just few tools to turn this around -- obviously, biden hinted he needs to have shorter days, nothing past 8:00 p.m., but they wasted six or seven days in the post debate aftermath coming up with a plan that everyone knew was the plan that they needed. if he was going to get through it, he would have to change the narrative, do more aggressive campaigning, sit down with media. he would have to show that was a one off. what happened in the six or seven days is that they hunkered
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down. few public appearances, no interviews, nothing off of teleprompter. in a campaign where you have four and a half months left, to waste a week and let the questions pile up is almost malpractice. >> that's a complaint i have heard from democratic lawmakers who reached the outreach was swifter than it was. congresswoman, counter to the strategy of biden doing more was biden quipping to governors that in order to get more sleep, he might limit his events after 8:00 p.m. that said, the new york post ran a cover saying, that's fine, nothing ever happens then. i know it's meant to reassure people. how do you think the public hears a joke like that? >> look, i think the reality is that people know the president was just speaking to the idea that he needs to better manage his time and his schedule. look, the fact is, it's not just the more that the president does
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in the coming several days and weeks, it's what he does. it's being out there and present in the public, both scripted and unscripted moments, doing interviews and demonstrating by his actions that he is ready for the task of both running for president and being president for the next four years. i happen to believe that this is recoverable. i don't think it's easy. i don't want to sugarcoat what happened at that thursday debate. i do think it's recoverable. i'm hearing from an awful lot of democrats that they want to give the president the time and the space to make sure that he can run the race that he needs to run to beat donald trump. >> i was going to ask you that. you and i talked two days ago. i asked what you were hearing from your former colleagues. many seemed like they were in wait and see mode as opposed to some who were coming forward and saying, it's time to go, or saying privately, do i sign a letter, do i not asking him to
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go? has that remained the stakes for you in your conversations? >> well, i think that's true. look, members of congress get back into town next week. i think we're going to hear from many more of them. i think there are a lot of my former colleagues who are in the wait and see mode or they are solidly behind president biden. they don't think that he should be pushed out. i think that some of them are hearing from their constituents, especially the base of our party, that is a bit offended by the donor class, the elite class, "the washington post" and "the new york times" editorial boards trying to push president biden out. >> adam, you and i have worked on some of the campaigns together. i on the reporting side, you on the operative side. having been with senator fetterman after his stroke, the biden camp is not only in the position of reassuring its own party, but donors are saying they will withhold money until
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biden is replaced. is that all too much incoming from all sides? >> it certainly is a lot. whether it's too much is going to depend on what happens in the next couple of weeks. what you are seeing from the biden campaign is what i would characterize as necessary but not sufficient. what they're doing right now, having this interview, having events over the weekend, these are important to do. but if you are going to really reassure people, you have to do more. it's not enough. i think that the question is, how much do these efforts of reassurance take off some of the pressure and how much do those efforts fail to take off the pressure and have that pressure continue to build? when you hear from the factions of the party, members of congress, donors, it does become a lot to handle and potentially unsustainable. >> in the last week, i have felt like there are shades of this present moment that remind me of conversations i was having with rival campaigns in 2020, people
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whispering the then former vice president had lost a step after seeing him on the debate stage. do you see those shades here, too? >> you can certainly see the shades. it comes back to whether he recovers. i think age is an issue that people struggle with. decline is real. he doesn't seem to be incapable of performing the duties of the job. like you said, this is something that's been an issue for him ever since the beginning of his campaign in 2020. he managed to weather it every single time. whether that's possible now i think remains to be seen and hinges on what he and his campaign are able to do over the next days and potentially weeks. >> i think that's right. sam, he is staying in. you have new reporting about preparing for what if biden doesn't. what can you tell us about that? >> i spent the last couple days talking to a dozen democratic operatives, people in touch with donors and lawmakers.
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the general consensus is, almost to a person they do not believe he can survive this. they have been wrong before. biden loves to prove these people wrong. the thing that motivates them from the 2020 race was the new york time editorial board. they love this stuff. elsewhere in the party, there's a resignation that this is going to play out and he will realize not only that he can't be the candidate but he couldn't beat donald trump. where they coalesce is around kamala harris. the reason is has to be kamala harris is twofold. one, all the infrastructure is built around the biden-harris ticket. it's not just that she would inherit the money. but the messaging, think about the messaging crafted by democratic groups. it's around promoting the biden-harris agenda. if you put in a governor, you have to redo that messaging. the second thing is obviously it
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would be offensive to key constituencies if she were pushed out in favor of someone else who isn't tested on the national stage or who has never been at the federal level like she has. this person who had been relatively divisive in democratic circles, that being the vice president, is being looked upon as a savior of sorts for the party. it's happened in a span of two weeks. >> i'm having another deja vu moment. in 2020, the conventional wisdom was, it has to be kamala harris. all roads lead there. now here we are. if we want to continue that narrative. donna, i think, has the administration done enough where in a post joe biden era, if that were to be where this goes, have they done enough to elevate the vice president so the public and party have confidence in here? it's been a bumpy road. >> that's true. i think if you look over the time, especially post the dobbs decision, that kamala harris has
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become the spokesperson for the administration, for the campaign on issues that are of deep concern around reproductive freedom, around democracy for this team. i think she is imminently capable. the question is how this happens or whether it should happen at all. i do think that we are still premature in that phase. there's no reason at all kamala harris is the vice president, the voters decided that she was the one to be next in line for the presidency. so that would seem to make sense. i think that sam is right that at the base of the party, black women, black voters, women, that you can't afford to tick those groups off. kamala harris checks those boxes. >> that's right. sam, when you talk to your white house sources, do they feel the
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time crunch here? >> yeah. you know, the biden white house mentality is an interesting one. they do firmly believe that there's a separate conversation that's different there what the real world is happening. you and i and people who watch this network engage in and that voters don't. they recognize that they are in an absolute crisis mode. the parallel i kept hearing during my reporting was this is when hillary clinton had the episode on september 11 in the 2016 campaign. absolute crisis. the difference is that they have to deal with more incoming and the pre-existing questions around biden's age and mental acuity. they are in a bunker mentality. they are going to fight it out. they echo the sentiment of their boss who feels like they need to go, go, go. >> september is way later than we are in july.
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that makes a difference here. sam, donna, adam, and prior to that kelly, thank you for joining us. still ahead, a massive power shift in the uk. voters react to the status quo and deliver a major shift to the left. along with a new prime minister dubbed no drama starmer. what it means for our closest ally, in 90 seconds. ah, these guys are intense. with e*trade from morgan stanley, we're ready for whatever gets served up. dude, you gotta work on your trash talk. i'd rather work on saving for retirement. or college, since you like to get schooled. that's a pretty good burn, right?
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continues to beat expectations. new numbers show the u.s. added 206,000 jobs in june, slightly more than expected. in the meantime, unemployment inched above 4% for the first time in two years. joining me now for a look at the data is christine romans. what's the bigger meaning here? >> i think you can boil it down like this, the job market is hot. it's strong. it's not red hot anymore. that's really important here. the job market had been so strong and so above anybody's expectations for a couple of years, that there were concerns it would feed into inflation and the fed's rate hike campaign wasn't working to slow down the job market. you are starting to see signs this is a more normal job market. 206,000 new jobs, it's a little less than the month before. that shows a cooling. that unemployment rate ticking up, that's the highest in three years. that shows a cooling. look at wages, 3.9% annual wage
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growth, that's great for typical workers. your paycheck is rising faster than your bills mostly. it's not so red hot that it's a concern overall about inflation. this is the kind of number that folks at the fed and economists wanted to see. >> that's the next question. what does the fed think? especially when they consider a rate cut later this year. >> it means that this is more evidence that they will be able to start cutting the high interest rates. those were meant to slow the economy. now you are seeing that start to happen. these are overall very strong job numbers. they are just not as super overheated as we had been seeing in months past. that's a good thing. when you look at how the market gauges this, the bond market, it's suggesting there's a good chance that the fed will cut rates a tiny bit in september and later this year. for all of our viewers who are dealing with higher rates to borrow money for a car or for a
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home loan or any kind of borrowed money, that would be good news down the road for people if you start to see those rates tick down. >> certainly a lot of people looking for that number and what it ends up being. thank you for joining us. an historic transition of power is happening in the uk. they have a new prime minister. keir starmer heading to buckingham palace before taking up office at downing street. >> our country has voted decisively for change, for national renewal and the return of politics to public service. if you voted labor yesterday, we will carry the responsibility of your trust as we rebuild our country. >> raf sanchez joins us from 10 downing street. it's election season.
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the london press are calling the new pm no drama starmer. what do we know about the man who just took charge? >> reporter: starmer is a former human rights lawyer, a former prosecutor. as you could see in the clip you played, he is a low-key politician. he is not exactly overbrimming with charisma. he has a reputation for quiet competence. that's what voters here in the uk were looking for, especially after the period of just unprecedented political chaos that this country lived through since the 2016 brexit referendum. former prime minister boris johnson breaking his own covid lockdown rules, attending illegal parties here at downing street. there's really very little danger of any antics like that coming from keir starmer. on the world stage, he is someone who supports nato, supports ukraine. we expect he will speak to
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president biden shortly, the first phone call between these two allies. these are two men whose foreign policy views are closely aligned. starmer may be at odds with donald trump if he wins in november. trump has threatened to take the u.s. out of nato, threatened to cut off supplies to ukraine. starmer is private. we saw his wife here at downing street earlier. she has relatively rarely been on the campaign trail with him. he is the father of two children. he is intensely protective of their privacy. their names have never been publicly released. something which is almost unthinkable for an american president. he also grew up in a working class family. in this country, he is formally referred to as sir keir. that's because he was knighted ten years ago by then prince charles for his work in the criminal justice system. we spoke to his biographer. he told us starmer is not super comfortable with that title.
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but it's one that he carries with him. he is the first knight to lead britain in 60 years. >> you mention the way starmer might be opposed to trump on a policy basis. a trump ally had a big night. can you remind us about him and why i would have been seeing a lot of him at trump tower in 2016. >> reporter: yeah. it's stunning to think. he is a populist right wing politician here in the uk. in some ways he is considered the godfather of the brexit movement. he took his traveling political circus to the united states. he spent a lot of time with donald trump. he said he would campaign for trump's re-election. he came back here and rebooted this populist right wing anti-immigration party called reform. they went on to win four seats. he is now a member of parliament, something he has tried many times in the past.
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while the headline here is that a progressive, center left labor party won a sweeping majority, they are the government in the country, they will set policy, what you saw was a fracturing of the vote on the right. a lot of the conservatives, traditional voters abandoning them, moving over to reform. just as there is in the u.s. right now, there's a real fight going on about the future of the right pitting those more traditional center right conservative politicians against these new insurgent hard right members of parliament from reform. >> raf sanchez, it's fascinating. thank you for joining us. still ahead, how president biden's post debate crisis and the growing buzz around kamala harris may be impacting donald trump's vp decision. what advisors are saying behind the scenes next. imagine checking your own heart with medical precision from anywhere.
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the uncertainty over president biden's future in the race is putting new attention on donald trump's hunt for a running made. some people said privately they want him to give more consideration to a young contender or a person of color, to counter the possibility that kamala harris ascends to the top of the democratic ticket. some think that because polls, some right now, show a republican victory in november. so trump should pick doug burgum
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since he has experience. joining us now, vaughn hillyard and former republican congressman david jolly of florida. vaughn, it sounds like there's a debate between a strategic election pick or a governing pick. are those the strategies you are hearing from within trump world on this? what's your sense of how much longer they will hold off on announcing it? >> reporter: that's right. it takes me back to the 2016 campaign when you and i were covering that vp search. it came down to three finalists. we look at three potentially finalists here. we are looking at in 2016 there was a midwestern governor named mike pence. there was newt gingrich, sort of the congressional tactician and chris christie, more of the bombastic, bigger than life personality. this go around, when you look at who we are looking at, you have the midwestern governor, you have doug burgum, a low profile, not intimidating, not
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well-known. you have the likes of jd vance and marco rubio, both who are members of congress and who could potentially in a second trump administration better serve in terms of the actual execution of policies the trump administration would like to see. we understand for donald trump, the appeal of a burgum is somebody there who would be willing to carry out the message and who would not be somebody that the rest of the republican party would be eagerly turning to as potentially a stand-in, maybe in the way the younger jd vance and marco rubio could be seen as. >> ambition is a bad word in this hunt. i know as we have been reporting, that's always the thing that it comes back to. congressman jolly, based on the reporting, what side wins out here? is it burgum's experience or the candidate who could best counter kamala harris? >> look, i think rubio and burgum are safe picks.
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they both check the governing and experience box. marco rubio tried to lead the immigration reform effort when he got to the senate and got burned. >> that might be a bad thing in this. >> i know. he went through the whole phase that every republican does. he opposed donald trump and turned around and supported him. he didn't flail like lindsey graham did. he didn't embarrass himself. he worked with trump for six years. the relationship is good. i think he brings experience as a cuban american. he can speak to a certain demographic. with burgum, you get somebody who the country won't know. he is a chief executive that will stay in the shadows of donald trump. that might be why donald trump would want him. vance is unqualified. it's notable on wednesday, trump
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has a rally 20 minutes from rubio's house. maybe trump -- the convention is the week after next. trump has to make a decision soon. maybe it's wednesday. >> you are doing my job for me. there's that rally that's going to be held sometime next week, which begs the question, it's 20 minutes from rubio's house. he has a significant standing with the cuban population there. is it a tea leaf we should be reading, vaughn? >> reporter: potentially. the issue is the fact that both men are florida residents. when it comes to the potential allocation of electors out of florida, there could be a residency issue. it's not clear whether donald trump would be eager to change his residency to new jersey or new york. for marco rubio, he is serving in the capacity of u.s. senator. if he were to step aside, he would have to leave the u.s.
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senate, if he were to change his residency. tuesday is the rally. he will have a rally saturday right before the convention. that's in pennsylvania here. it could be very well that donald trump -- the time line is to his advantage. the biden campaign is distracted by frustrations within the party with their own nominee and his viability. for marco rubio, exactly as david outlined this, we have watched the trajectory of this individual. yet, there's one big outstanding question mark. that was on january 6, he voted to certify joe biden's victory. donald trump's relationship with mike pence frayed on january 6, 2021, because he opted to go the route of certifying the election. that could be one outstanding question mark for marco rubio on the decision whether to pick him. >> ditched his former vp because he upheld the will of the voters. david, i think as we are talking
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about how the trump campaign might try to take advantage of the chaos among democrats right now, there's the reality that former governor nick nicki hail nikki haley isn't being considered. >> the only thing that stops that is donald trump's narcissism and ego. i will tell you with a vp pick, my money has been on rubio, which is why it probably won't be. he is the perfect proxy for nikki haley. donald trump doesn't have to cater to her. when rubio was running against trump in 2016, it was haley that was rubio's chief surrogate. a lot of soft republicas will
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never come back because it's trump. for those looking for a reason to come back, particularly in the current contrast environment with the situation with president biden, a marco rubio pick sends a signal that maybe they have a place in a trump republican party. i think they would be foolish to think that. but that's the proxy rubio becomes. >> maybe the voters are nerds like vaughn and you and i. haley did the rally for him when rubio lost his voice. memories as we walk down memory lane. still ahead, bracing for beryl. texas prepares for a hurricane that left destruction across the caribbean. the latest on its track next. upset stomach iberogast indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature.
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voluntary evacuation alerts have been issued for parts of texas in preparation for hurricane beryl. the storm now churning through mexico and currently battering popular tourist destinations. beryl killed at least nine people as it sliced through the caribbean islands. it flooded towns, leaving roads littered with downed power lines, trees and dangerous debris. infrastructure on those islands, no match for the weight of the powerful 150 mile per hour winds. a bridge was intact before the
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hurricane and reduced to pieces after. guad is following this. i'm joined by meteorologist bill karins. what's the situation in mexico? >> reporter: we are getting reports where it made landfall. it's known for tourists. the infrastructure has been developed in a lot of the buildings to withstand the force of a hurricane. there was messages sent to people that lives in the smaller communities asking them to go to shelters. the authorities as of now, preliminary report says they are indicating that they had damage to the power lines, utility poles down. there was a lot of damage to the vegetation. a lot of trees and roofing of the structures. fortunately, that's all that they have reported as of now. the latest report indicates that they have not had major issues
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or ines. the storm is now going into the gulf of mexico as the authorities in the area assess. it will make landfall late sunday evening in texas. when we first began reporting, the forecast had indicated it was moving towards mexico. then it moved north. now the forecast does indicate that it's moving further north into texas. >> we have seen path changes. bill, what do we know about when and how beryl could hit the u.s.? >> it's time to start preparing in texas. it's going to come. we will have a serious flooding rain threat. that's guaranteed. how strong the storm is and what kind of winds, that's to be determined. as we mentioned, it made landfall. it is halfway across the yucatan. don't be surprised if later it's
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down to a tropical storm. right now, they have it at 85. i haven't seen any wind reports close to that. i heard from storm chasers that this thing fell apart when it came onshore. that's why we are not hearing devastating reports from the high tourist areas. that's great. now we wait and see. saturday, it's over the warm waters. it's trying to get its act together. the hurricane center has it getting stronger sunday morning. right before we get towards landfall in texas, it's 75 to 85. it could increase in intensity. we have gone up the coast. we are closer to corpus christi. the next update will go further up the coast. notice the computer lines. these are different possibilities for the storm. only a couple in south texas. they are heading towards corpus christi. the right side is the worst side of the storm.
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everyone in houston is going, are you kidding me? that's a high possibility that inland areas -- we know how flood prone houston is -- could have serious water issues. the question of the wind, right now from a tropical storm -- i think worst case scenario is a category 2. that would be problematic for coastal areas. the inland water threat all day long monday. we know we will get the storm. we will have serious flooding issues because of the rain. what's to be determined is how bad the storm surge will be and how bad the winds will be. this is a small storm. small storms can get intense quickly. they can weaken very quickly. that's why we will be staring at this one until it makes landfall monday morning until we know for sure it's not going to surprise us and get a big burst of intensity right before making landfall. >> we are grateful you will be on that. thank you. still ahead, multiple people
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a 4th of july celebration in utah went awry after stray fireworks hit the crowd. it happened in provo ahead of a performance by the jonas brothers. several people had to go to the hospital, including one person hit in the face. the event organizer says all the pyrotechnics were, quote, checked before the accident. the show did go on after a brief delay. a year ago this week, as many americans were celebrating independence day, families in south baltimore were grappling with tragedy following the worst mass shooting in the city's history. 28 people were injured, most of them young children, and two young people died from their
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wounds. their mothers forging a bond, supporting each other as they struggle to cope with their loss. they sat down for an exclusive interview with our colleague yamiche alcindor. >> it was the week of july 4th when two baltimore mothers got the call every parent fears. now the women who lost their children are together, one talking publicly for the very first time in an exclusive interview on the mass shooting that left dozens hurt and officers under investigation. >> ta mika and krystal gonzalez cannot stop thinking about the nightmare they experienced one year ago. >> i've relived this day like there's no tomorrow, and to think our kids just wanted to enjoy themselves. >> reporter: their children, 20-year-old kylis and 18-year-old aliyah were shot and killed during the worst mass shooting in baltimore's history. 28 others were wounded. >> i found my son, but in order for me to get to my son, i went
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past aaliyah first. when crystal got there and the way she screamed, any mother would have felt that in their bones. >> that was the beginning of the worst night of my life. >> kylis and aaliyah died after people started shooting at the brooklyn day event, an annual block party held in the community. >> he wanted to become a traveling ultrasound tech. he was supposed to leave on that monday, so yeah, he wanted to go and help people. >> aaliyah was the warmest, compassionate, beautiful soul i've ever encountered. this should have never happened, and this could have been prevented. >> nine victims remain at area hospitals. >> that sentiment that this did not have to happen echoed by baltimore's top brass. last year mayor brandon scott released a report detailing the
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actions of multiple city agencies. baltimore's police agency was singled out for failing to respond to multiple warnings as the crowd swelled to 900 people, and officers indifference to several calls for help including reports that some in the crowd were armed. >> they didn't give a damn, plainly and bluntly. >> ma'am, i'm trying to locate your address, okay? >> it's brooklyn homes, brooklyn homes. >> okay. >> oh, they're shooting again! they're shooting again! >> okay, get down, ma'am, get down. >> the people who were calling begging for someone to come help them. it was heartbreaking. >> reporter: last week baltimore's police announced disciplinary action against eight officers and four staff members. two of them are facing termination. >> do you believe that police should have been at this annual event? >> i think it's fair to say if you were there the year before, you should have been there then. >> reporter: in a statement to
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nbc news baltimore's police commissioner said in part that the department has made several arrests and significant progress in addressing the issues from the brooklyn day shooting and that the investigation continues. that's not enough for aaliyah and kylis's mothers. they're planning to sue the city. >> explain why you're suing. >> because the police neglected this community. they weren't acting the way they should have acted to police and protect and serve. >> these people can go on and they can find another job. here it is, tamika and i are living a life sentence. >> five young men and boys were charged in connection with the shootings, one as young as 15 years old. but none are charged with murder. aaliyah and kylis's deaths remain unsolved. >> yamiche, thank you. still ahead, it's the last thing you want to hear during a holiday at the beach, screams of shark. the frightening encounters that left four people injured in florida and texas.
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day in politics, and no normal day even for a seasoned politician like president joe biden. it's one of the most high stakes days in his political career as he prepares to hold a rally in the next hour in a critical swing state and then sit down for his first in-person interview since the debate that shook his candidacy. the big test for biden and what happens if he fails next. plus, devastating pictures coming out of california where sweltering heat is fueling the flames of wildfires raging across the state, as officials tell locals in mariposa county get out now. and could there be a breakthrough in the israel-hamas war. the biden administration seems to think so saying hamas has softened their position bringing them closer to a deal to get the remaining hostages out and put an end to the fighting in gaza. but we begin with an undoubtedly huge day for president biden, potentially one of the most important in his decades' long political career. just over an hour from now, the president will
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