look out for if you are in the elements, if you are sweating profusely, lightheaded, and experiencing muscle cramps, that is a sign to continue drinking that water and eat some fruits and vegetables that are saturated with water. out west, let's take a look at arizona, for example, and phoenix. heat related illnesses there have nearly doubled when you take a look in comparison to this time last year. we have the numbers on your screen. i also want to share with you daily emergency department illnesses for heat related illnesses have soared in recent. that is according to the cdc. we are talking about the heat out west in california, some areas pushing nearly 120 degrees. death valley could break a world record at 130 degrees, alex. >> i cannot believe that, adrienne broaddus, thank you. that will do it for me in this edition of "alex witt

reports ." up next, "the beat weekend." welcome to "the beat weekend ," i am ari melber . let's get right into the headlines. >> i am katie fain, in for ari melber. we are still coming to terms with the supreme court decision vastly expanding , the powers of the president. trump seizing on the decision which bolsters, even worse, legally protects his worst imperial impulses, while his allies called the authoritarian future they want to build if trump wins again. tonight, one of them raising alarms for saying the quiet part out loud. >> we are going to win. we are in the process of taking this country back. we are in the process of the second american revolution, which will remain bloodless, if the left allows it to be. >> that ominous warning was from kevin roberts, president of the heritage foundation, the right

wing think tank that created project 2025, a 900 page extremist blueprint for a possible second trump term. the outline includes detailed plans to expand presidential powers even more, including restructuring the department of justice, purging federal government employees, and replacing them with tens of thousands of trump loyalists, dismantling the department of education, and banning abortion medication. the heritage foundation later has not been shy about promoting this plan. >> president trump is going to make decisions about policy in his administration, if he wins here at project 2025 is something that is going to transcend the next four years, next 10 years. we will fire someone at the number needs to be more than 50,000. abortion is not healthcare. we need to have the mass deportation system ever to

happen in america. >> the promise of the quote, revolution, underscoring the very real threat of authoritarianism affecting and corrupting american democracy. words that ricocheted throughout the m.a.g.a. movement, and through trump himself. >> i am your warrior, i am your justice, and for those who have been wronged or betrayed, i am your retribution. >> i said, i want to be a dictator for one day. >> we will rule out the communists, marxists, fascists, and radical left dogs that live like vermin within the confines of our country. >> locked up hillary. >> if i don't get elected, it will be a bloodbath. >> proud boys, stand back and stand by. >> joining me now is dr. jason johnson, politics professor at morgan state university in host of quote, a word with jason johnson and ruth am a history professor at nyu and expert on authoritarian dictators. my thanks to both of you on the eve of a holiday for joining us. jason, i would like to start with you.

your thoughts on this new warning of project 2025. >> it is interesting, katie. the key part about this, i was interviewing your friend and mine, ellie on my podcast. we were talking about 2025. and he said something interesting, he said, of all the 900 pages, what project 2025 does not talk about is the supreme court, why, because they already have it. what we saw on monday, what we heard on monday was this sort of final step of what has been a 25 year plan on the part of the american right to take over this country. i was not shocked by the decision. i am not shocked by 2025. i am more shocked by the ministration and democratic party that has not been rigging the alarm bells about this in the way they should. here is the thing, even if joe biden is reelected to me right now, that is still my guess, get back to me after labor day,

even if he is reelected, project 2025 just moves down the hill, unless we break the backs of these fascists this will be something hanging over this country for the next generation. >> ruth, i know, you have been sounding the alarm for a long time, to your credit. does project 2025, for context for our viewers, have any historical parallels? in the present since, i look at donald trump and i see his idols are put in and or bond, and other authoritarians like that. i presume this is not some brilliant idea that was born out of that quote, unquote beautiful mind of donald trump. >> no, project 2025 is being learned from other autocrats. one of the most alarming things, though, and they state this, the first trump administration weren't able to do everything they wanted to do and they got a slow start, robert just said. their codeword is day one, where they have got all of these already politically vetted people in place that they are going to immediately

seek to implement their executive orders and other plants. one thing that is very important, you showed trump in these clips. project 2025 shows mass deportations of over 10 million undocumented immigrants, but it is always more people and trump was talking about the political opposition, marxists, fascists, so they use one group to have the justification to build the repressive infrastructure, like the camps, the transit camps, whatever they are going to do. be assured, and this is the history of authoritarianism, many groups of people will be targeted to be in that. >> jason, kevin roberts, the head of the heritage foundation, later responded that quote, these patriots are committed to peaceful revolution at the ballot box. jason, we have seen what happens when they lose. we know what they will do if

they lose. are they warning very publicly that there will be another january 6th? >> they are not warning, katie, they told us already. they told us on january 6th, when he wanted to pardon someone who shot testers, they told us when kyle rittenhouse is still walking the streets. it is not a political party. it is an ongoing violent political coup. i have told you a long time, we suspect violence even before the election. the fear people need to have is not just, oh gosh, what would happen if donald trump actually beat joe biden and got into the white house, the question would be, how much random violence? we are not talking state sponsored violence, how much random violence would be inflicted on anybody in the country deemed to be an enemy that would suddenly be absolutely excused by the administration? that is what people need to be concerned about. we are not just talking bad feelings, people being kicked

out of the country, we are talking about people being shot in the streets by cops thing, they are acting on the orders of donald trump and him and his department of justice thing, we deputized him, it happened 15 minutes after he murdered that guy, but we are good. it is not hyperbole. >> that is important to note. ruth, one thing that struck me when i look at the project 2025 blueprint and i read the plan that it sets forth, it is interesting to me they actually don't target it for donald trump, per se. you could actually plug and play any gop leader who managed to take the oval, but let's be very clear, though, to make the project 2025 plan work the most effectively, the most ruthlessly, you've got to have somebody like donald trump, somebody who does not have morals, an ethical complex, or any type of scruples. in this instance, not just on who sits in the oval, that prescreening

that jason talks about, this idea that you are building it from the ground up, so they are ready to deploy, or the ready to go starting january 2025.>> yeah, but you also need somebody who has cultivated over time a cult following, and you need somebody with a personality like trump, because what he did january 6th, let's not forget he called himself a victim. he said that the election had been stolen from him, and he said, if you don't fight like hell, we will not have a country anymore when you have a large group of followers that feel existentially threatened if they lose their leader, and what else does donald trump say? he says, they are not going after me they are going after you. on january 6, he assembled them, and incited them to have violence on his behalf, but they were also saving him, this was their dear leader. they were saving him from an unjust fate. it is a very volatile and explosive situation when you have people like what were called the desk

killers, people like roberts in suits, partnering with people like steve bannon, you need both of these people, and you need a cult leader. all the pieces are coming together now in this time, and it is extremely dangerous. the last thing i will say, it is interesting, roberts said, the revolution will be bloodless, if the left allows it to be. he is speaking as the head of a think tank. i am not unaware that heritage has its own military or in- house security apparatus, large enough to have a revolution on a national scale. he is telling you that they are aligned with malicious, and whoever else that will actually do the blood letting if the left does not submit. that is very interesting too, if you study authoritarianism. >> it is interesting, ruth.

you stole my thunder of your thunder. i actually have the tweet that you actually have that military apparatus to be able to affectionately do what you will do. something has been driving me nuts about the latest criticisms of joe biden is the fact that people seem to have very short memories. because trump's first term was hardly marked by restraint. this is former secretary of defense mark esper talking about trump's approach to protesters in the summer of 2020. >> p is going to finally give a direct order to deploy paratroopers into the streets of washington, d.c. i am thinking with weapons and bandits, this will be horrible. >> what specifically was he suggesting that the u.s. military should do to these protesters? >> he says, can't you just shoot them? just shoot them in the legs or something. >> jason, there were some people that served, theoretically i guess, as guardrails during trump's first

term. one of my biggest fears, and i want to ask you about, will there be anyone in trump's orbit that will stop him the second time around? >> the guardrails were made with silly string and cellophane left time. the only thing that stopped them was his own confidence and inability to move forward with a policy. this is important for everybody to understand about this, there is nothing that this president cannot and will not do it next time. i want to say this going forward, there's a lot of screaming and crying and fears about joe biden. i want to make it clear, he will probably be the nominee and if you don't like everything we are talking about that donald trump will do, that is the guy you have got to line up behind. in the face of fascism, in the face of a authoritarian regime, spending the next few months arguing about who was the first person to take the hit from that administration will not be a good idea. we have to work with what we have got now. i wish they were better, everybody wishes they were better, joe biden might be the

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donald trump today using his supreme court win to his litigation advantage, scoring a delay for his new york criminal sentencing, originally scheduled for next week. joe xuanhua sean pushing back the sentencing more than two months, noting in a letter, it will be september 18th at the earliest quote, if such is still necessary. that is only days before the first americans will head to the polls for early voting. this, while trump's lawyers are fighting to have his new york election interference case thrown out, based on yesterday's ruling granting him

presidential immunity for quote, official acts. his lawyers arguing that your prosecutors improperly used evidence from trump's time as president in their case. saying, it should vacate his 34 felony convictions quote, without merit. steel, the immunity ruling could provide a roadblock for prosecutors in trump's other cases the limiting what evidence they can use in court. yesterday's majority opinion reading in part quote, testimony or private records of the president or his advisors of such conduct may not be admitted as evidence at trial. the evidence admitted at trial did include some of trump's social media posts, and witness testimony regarding events in the oval office mainly checks being signed by donald trump. there's also the question of what counts as an official act? trump's lawyers already publicly arguing, the ruling shall nullify the other cases against him. >> alternate sleights of electors have been a nothing used by previous president,

most notably ulysses s grant to ensure the quality of the election that we believe the assembly of the alternate electors was an official at. >> joining me now to make it all since, legal analyst and senior fellow at the brennan center, and former federal prosecutor and a senior writer with " politico." some of my favorite folks. like drinking from a fire hose, just when you think we are able to move on, something trucks drops like today. the notion to vacate those convictions will play out in new york. judge merchan has noted he would rule by september 6th . >> look, i think what we are seeing is a good process here. it is important the judge is giving parties time to brief the issues so he can fully explore them and create a

record. we all know that is the basis of good lawyering here. where it is, i am not quite certain yet. one of the problems we are seeing is that these proceedings in new york expose a real problem in the supreme court's opinion, by creating this very i think uncomfortable expansive distinction between official and unofficial conduct, they have really ignored and bypassed this notion that donald trump blurred the lines, and is was in many ways creating conduct related to campaign in his private businesses from the oval office is. how judge merchan will sort that out, i think we will find out when he takes these briefings and issues an opinion . my hunch is, this should not impact the new york case in ways it may impact some of the other federal cases. >> to joyce's point, you don't anticipate heavily fact intensive inquiry by judge

merchan, based on what trump's lawyers are threatening to file in terms of what trump's lawyers are setting aside, right? >> i agree in terms of their needs to be a bitter process to let the judge analyze, let the parties way in. i would not expect anything in terms of inquiry, simply because there is a trial record. and i think the parties can and should be working from that in order to make arguments. i also agree with joyce. so far, the evidence at trial seen to indicate none of the real, or conduct that was at issue really relates to trump's cognitive. it pertained to his official dealings, his campaign and to his business to some extent. i have a hard time seeing by signing checks in the oval office should properly be considered official acts. i am sure trump's lawyers will be arguing all of that, and they have already begun. this issue was sort of flagged in a run up to the trial. the judge considered some of it . it is not coming totally out of left field. i do think

there will be an orderly resolution to its . >> my two cents, i think judge 31 denies the motion, and they're into being an issue on appeal, but there's also cumulative evidence presented in the prosecution's case against donald trump, not just what they are saying on the defense's side, there were quote, official acts evidence that they think were particularly wrong to use. joyce, you mentioned a couple of minutes ago other cases in the immunity decision, just as justice amy coney barrett wrote, she thinks that fake electors scheme can be prosecuted. she said quote, take the president's alleged attempt to organize alternative slates of electors. in my view, that conduct is private, therefore not entitled to protection. i am asking you to read some of the leaves on the flight a bit, do you think the effect fake electors case is still being allowed to go forward? >> we don't know if there is a fifth vote that will join her, no one joined in that concurrent point of view. a look, there has to be some

sort of a rational basis here. the supreme court talks about core, executive branch conduct, that is conduct that stems from a president's constitutional, or at least lawful powers, powers granted to him by congress. and, there is this much broader range that they characterized as a twilight zone of official conduct, and that is maybe official adjacent, or something that impacts other official conduct. when we get to the point where we are talking about creating fake slates of electors in order to steal an election you have lost i have enormous difficulty seeing that as official power of the presidency. i am hoping that despite this opinion, the courts will right side themselves and permit persecutions like those including the fake slates of electors to move forward. >> i wanted to talk about something that keeps flying underneath the radar. there is so much meat on the bone from yesterday's ruling. i want to talk about justus's concurrence

, we talked about the validity of jack smith. not only at the home of the federal interference case in d.c., but the federal case being prosecuted in my state of laura in front of judge eileen cannon. your thoughts about the future of jack smith on these cases as a special counsel? >> and you are right to be concerned that that made sort of be a template for future decisions, potentially from judge cannon and the supreme court here and we are living in a time when justice thomas's alone opinions from years ago are becoming law. this is not a position that the majority disemboweled. reading justice thomas's opinion, i find it quite mangled, quite hard to accept, quite honestly, as legal reasoning. it would not surprise me if that opinion has legs, if judge cannon

latches onto it, or even the supreme court has to confront the issue at a later date again and decides that is an issue they wanted to weigh in on as well. >> left then a minute, but i wanted to get your opinion as well. i know cannon has yet to roll rule on a motion, based on what is pending in florida. did not really address anything else and said, come on, eileen, bring on your granting of that notion to dismiss. >> there was no reason for justice thomas to write this concurrent. the only thing positive i can say about it is, he did not pick up any votes to join him on this. this is not an issue that was briefed. it was flagged briefly in oral argument, but not something that needed to be decided and judges don't side with issues before them. clearly, this is a bone he is throwing to judge cannon, now she can cite the concurrence and use that to fight ruling.

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>> but, the ruling does open the door for trial judge to hold evidentiary hearings. the justices remanding allegations of justus's indictments back to d.c. court to determine if they qualify for immunity. the "new york times" thing, this could lead to something quote, extraordinary, a trial in the home stretch of the presidential campaign. it is unclear when the trial would take place, but it would give prosecutors a chance to prosecute before election day. a judge postponing trump's felony conviction and sentencing in new york until september as his lawyers argue to toss the verdict entirely in the wake of monty's immunity opinion. joining me now is congresswoman from california, a member of the january 6th select committee. congresswoman, it is an honor to have you here as always i'd like to get your reaction to

make to the supreme court decision on monday. >> it is extraordinary. as i was mentioning to nicole earlier in the week, the supreme court basically answered the question that was posed at the oral argument, can the president send seal team six to assassinate his political enemies? and the answer they gave is yes. if it is a core responsibility of the presidency , they said that the president is immune. that is not a defense, it means, he can't be charged. and although they did not specify in every case what that was there is nothing more, if you look at the constitution, nothing more core then article two, section 2, the president shall be the command the commander in chief of the army and navy. i said something to katie that some certain white ringers-- white right ringers have concluded, the ability of the president to use his authority

as commander in chief to send assassins is clearly approved by the court, whether it is somebody going to assassinate judges, your neighbor, a political rival, whoever. that does not mean i am in favor of that, in fact, i am appalled by that and i think every american thinks that kind of activity should be criminal, and it was, until monday. >> to your point, congressman, it is that point that is appalling, as we know, that has been cloaked by this idea that it is an official act, so you can't even get into, in terms of motivation according to the supreme court. as i noted, there is this talk of an evidentiary hearing. i was interested in getting your take on this tiered from your work with the january 6th committee, do you believe there

is actually more evidence. we have not seen the arsenal of evidence that special counsel jack smith has that the public has not been privy to that may affect the outcome of this case. >> there are things we could not get because witnesses refused to come in. mr. bennett is in jail right now because he refused to testify, and i think he knows a lot. mark meadow refused to testify, he knows a lot. and others as well. i don't know how much the special secure nose in part terms of testament from those individuals, of course, the court went even further, with justice amy coney barrett suggesting, they can't even use evidence related to sort of core functions. that does not mean they can't have a hearing. in fact, they will have to have a hearing to decide what can be used, what can't be used, what is immune, what is arguably immune, and presumptively immune. it is a mess, but it is going to be a very detailed,

evidentiary process that absolutely has to be held. >> i just want to ask a follow- up on that. for me, as i know for others watching the public hearings you conducted as a part of that select committee, letting americans get a birds eye view, not only into the live testimony provided during those hearings, even the videotaped deposition you guys did was exceptionally powerful. it was impactful. do you think it will have just as much of an impact on american voters as we get closer me assuming that these evidentiary hearings take place before that? >> it is hard to know. one thing, proceedings in district courts are not televised. so, there will be a written account. i know for a fact that the witnesses we have were seen and heard is powerful, although the transcripts were equally powerful, in some cases. it is hard to know what impact any of

this-- some of the supporters of the ex president really aren't interested in tex-mex. really ask some of my colleagues have said, it is a cold cult. i know that is not most americans. most americans want to vote in the best interests of our country, for someone who will do a good, steady job and think about the future of our country and our democracy. that is what most people want. >> i'm glad you noted, congressman, as i have to part from you, there is no video or are audio that will come out of federal courts, but we also did not have video or audio at the federal into election interference case with judge merchan. that will impact views. thank you for your service and thank you for being here. i really appreciate it. still ahead, steve bennett reporting to prison with some

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today, on a different bid for accountability, steve bennett reporting to federal prison in connecticut for defining a january 6th subpoena. he is sentenced to four months elevating benin will get out just days before the november 5th election. bennett is a second trump ally convicted of contempt of congress, along with peter navarro and recently spoke to nbc's vaughn hillyard, vowing

retaliation. >> in his justice department to do what they should do to start investigations and how the justice department recognized the legal system against the m.a.g.a. movement, president trump, and his followers. there will be plenty of time for that. >> joining me now is just green, national correspondent for bloomberg and author of "devil's bargain" josh, it is good to have you here. as we speak, you and i, steve bennett is literally, finally behind bars. your reaction? >> my first reaction, it sort of makes the book's title, " devil's bargain" more poignant. i say in the book that most of donald trump's business partners end up unhappy. here steve bennett is headed off to federal prison. with that being said, as he is

prone to do, turning it into a media circus, using it i think to try and amplify and enhance his grand. every indication he is getting publicly that this is a great thing that sort of furthers his story, as we heard in that clip, that the justice department is somehow persecuting trump-friendly republicans. >> so, we hear bannon's vow several times, including right there with vaughn hilliard, plain as day, they don't try to hide it. your thoughts now, considering what the supreme court just ruled today in terms of this cloak of official acts being able to be used to provide immunity. if retaliation is the name of the game, sounds like the supreme court just said, steve bannon, donald trump, here you go. >> usually, when bannon says these kinds of things, he is looking to evoke a reaction and get media attention. certainly, trump would have more leeway to retaliate if that is what he decides he wants to do if he gets elected. i think for bannon, the fact that he is

going off to jail is not the way he would write the script himself, if he could. the fact that it is only a four month sentence, it could be longer. i was talking to an ally before the sentencing saying, if bannonthe sentence was longer than six months, i expect benin to treat himself as if he was nelson mandela, a political prisoner. sure enough, that is what we saw on the steps of the prison today as he was going in, treating this, putting himself into this narrative of trump m.a.g.a. world prosecution, which i think he believes will enhance his brand, will enhance the image of him as a loyal foot soldier to trump, and ultimately, we are down to his benefit, at least in a media m.a.g.a. world since. >> and decided that steve bannon touting to bonnie hilliard that donald trump is a moderate, using the phrase, moderate, and when it comes to m.a.g.a., to the point you just made, peter navarro, steve bannon, they are the only ones doing jail time for a moderate donald trump?

>> i think when you look at what is going on here, bannon taking pride in the fact that he was sentenced to prison, almost the fact that reason it has become a new badge of honor or mark of loyalty to true fealty to donald trump, navarro had said, he does not want to be pardoned, he does not want to be let out early. bannon is referring to himself as a political prisoner. as these things become more extreme, as some of these m.a.g.a. followers become evermore extreme in what they are doing, this is just another marker of how far out of the norm things have skewed that somebody who was campaign director, chief white house strategist is now heading into a federal prison and is okay with it. >> elevating it, in fact. josh greene, thank you for being here and i appreciate it. at least donald trump's

allies are being held accountable. former trump lawyer, former emphasis, rudy giuliani, can no longer practice law in the state of new york. a state appeals court is barring him for spreading lies about the 2020 election. in a ruling, they say, giuliani quote, baselessly attacked and undermined the integrity of this country's election process and actively contributed to the national strife that has followed the presidential election, for which he is entirely unrepentant. this comes just a day after steve bannon reported to prison, following in the footsteps of former trump aid, peter navarro. a few allies facing accountability for trying to overturn the election . >> in arizona, for example, the democratic attorney general has indicted 18 people. rudy giuliani, mark meadows. >> yes, i was a part of the process to make sure there were alternate electors. >> steve bennett to start his

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affect, yeah, maybe. >> you can do whatever you want and the supreme court will probably let you get away with it. that is pretty frightening. >> should the supreme court start putting parties on ebay for $1 million? >> if he is president, he is likely to read this ruling as a part of all guardrails are of . >> could the president take a bribe with impunity, with immunity? >> sure looks like it. >> to put it in layman's terms, america now has a king, and six hands are the king. >> this community really reflects just how far the court's conservative majority has gone in endorsing trump's view of politics as a no holds barred battle for power. now to me as the supreme court faces a mounting credibility crisis and a conservative super majority ruled by ethics scandals, the courts' calls for reform are getting louder. joining me now justice correspondent for the nation, author of quote, allow me to retort, a black guy's guide to the constitution, elie, you

have got a job to do. i think you got to write another book or maybe 10, i am not sure what is left of our constitution these days. i read your latest piece on what happened on monday. my question to you was supposed to be what worries you the most about this immunity ruling, and yet, i feel like we already know what the answer is. >> i want to know who is surprised? honestly, i want to know who haven't been paying enough attention to the supreme court and are actually surprised they went this far. i want all of the institutional list to line up in front of me so they can apologize to me in america for gas lighting people to the past three decades about what these conservatives were actually about me because people like me have been trying to scream it from the rooftops for years at this point. supreme court is the control conservative controlled supreme court is 100% involved in a massive power grab. what they are trying to do is remake the rules on america democracy so that unelected, unaccountable judges hold all the power and

the voters hold none, even in the immunity decision. and i know immunity, it is giving, creating the presidency as an office of king, giving extreme power to the executive, but think carefully about what the court actually did their peer they try to separate out the difference between artificial and official acts. they did not give guidance about what those acts may be. they did not give any guidance so that we, the people, might understand the difference between official and unofficial acts. they just said, yeah, there is probably a difference, but everything trump date was most likely official. but what does that mean? that means going forward, the only people who know whether or not a president is able to commit crimes is not the president, it is the supreme court. with the chevron case, as we saw, the only people that know what regulations we are allowed and not allowed to have is the supreme court. the only people who know what laws are constitutional or not

constitutional is the supreme court, not congress, not the president, not the voters. that is the point. that is the pro line from everything we have seen from the supreme court, not only this past week, but over the past 10 or so years. that is where we are in this country with a court that is completely overpowered, and a court that understands we, the people, and we, the democratic party, lacked the strength to stop them. >> and in the majority opinion in the ruling, chief justice roberts argued, the hesitation to execute the duties of his office fearlessly and fairly under a pile of potential constitution raises a unique risk to the functioning of government. since when is criminal deterrence a bad thing? >> right? remember, this is about what trump did while he thought he could be prosecuted after the fact for his crimes. can you imagine what he is going to do

now that he knows he can't be prosecuted for crimes? the idea that the president needs to act quickly, boldly, and without reason that crime thing is just the thing that might happen. god forbid the president feels restrained from committing crimes, that is insane! yet, that is the opinion here. another thing, because we are lawyers, we can talk about this, but most of your listeners can understand the distinction between the absolute immunity that they offered the president of the united states, versus even qualified immunity that they give to cops and other government officials. the word qualified immunity means, well, it is qualified. that means well, there is a way to, as we lawyers like to say, pierce the veil on qualified immunity. maybe you are generally immune, but in this particular situation, you are not immune at all. presidents are asked the absolutely immune from everything. again, with qualified immunity, that

applies to civil cases, suing for damages after the fact, that does not apply to crimes. cops can still be charged with murder but not so with presidents. it is absolute immunity for criminal actions, not civil penalties. it is unhinged. again me this is what the court has been rated much since roberts took control of it. >> which by the way, and elie, i need to have you back so we can talk more about it, the robbers being construed as being the moderate is absurd . that goes out the door, because in this particular roberts court, chevron gone, homelessness is bad, but seal team six is good. >> don't forget, gratuities are also legal now. met an official act. >> thank you for being indignant and thank you for being angry. we need it. we knew. thanks, my friend.

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