♪ ♪ welcome back to "the weekend". congress returns to capitol hill tomorrow after a seismic week in american politics. president biden continues to reassure democrats after his poor debate performance that he is the best person to beat donald trump in november. at least half a dozen democrats now tell nbc news that the president's interview with george stephanopoulos did little to salvage his campaign, describing biden's political situation in terms like heartbroken, doomed and an effing disaster. we should note, however, he spoke in those terms anonymously , of course they did. meanwhile, five house democrats have publicly called on the

president to step aside. joining us now is democratic senator alex padilla of california. welcome, senator. >> welcome, senator. thank you for being with us this morning. can we please start with the lots of conversation about senator mark warner and him convening democrats in the senate today via phone, or zoom, i am unsure. what do you know about this meeting and the purpose of it x it has been assumed it is nefarious, but is it? i have no idea. maybe you can illuminate this for us. >> appreciate the question. i have not heard from senator warner about this call. i guess, if he is watching your show this morning, i would like to get something from him in a couple of hours but so far, i have not. we need a conversation, i think that is fine. look, the debate performance was not the greatest. we have

work to do in the next 120 days to make sure donald trump does not get another term in the oval office. the stakes are simply too high. i think we should have a conversation of what we will do to ensure a second biden-harris term, that is what i would like. >> perhaps an interest, senator, of saving senator warner sometime, if you were invited to that meeting, would you attend? >> i think i would attend, just to hear them out and to hopefully counter whatever point he may be trying to make with reality. they have been putting it out throughout the morning but key members need to be able to communicate with each other. there are topics that need to be thinking through, what do we

need to do? the debate was not the best performance. the next day in north carolina was. in response to so many other events he has done to show the joe biden we all know. i think there is a silver lining , let joe be joe. a lot of us were advising him to do that since before the debate. now, i think we have no choice. let's get joe out to public events, let joe be joe, unscripted, let joe biden be the joe so many people in our country no, love, respect, trust and believe in. they voted for him in november 2020 and the majority of them will vote for him this november, as well. >> to your point, senator, which is politically wise, you

know, boaters, you know, i think at this point, understand joe biden's age. they're not waking up this morning going, he is 81? i didn't know that. there is that. two, i think there is also wisdom in the idea that voters fired donald trump for a reason in 2020. democrats need to, i think, in some incidents, remind themselves of that. adam kinzinger , a former republican member of the house, put out a tweet last week that basically said just to level set:the fact that dems are having discussions about their party doesn't show weakness, it shows strength. they aren't a cult, and they have people who feel free to have opinions. take pride in that. the gop is a cult where an idea get you kicked out. that is absolutely true but the issue i think i have is with

all this, you know, showing up strength by having these very public discussions about throwing the old guy out, is there a point where it is too far? is there a point where you make what happened last thursday worse than it actually was in the mice, in particular in the minds of a lot of voters where polls are showing the needle has barely moved, probably a two point loss, not a 20 point loss, a two point loss. how do you assess this moment as the party tries to level set around this discussion of what to do with their nominee. >> look, i appreciate the question. i think it is a very timely question. as congress reconvened in the capitol this week, frankly, the chatter, the concern, the concern, asking questions, i think the stakes in this election this november are simply too high to waste the type of pressures time worrying.

the bottom line is, joe biden, 14 million american voters , the primary, the political conventions are upon us. the republican convention is a couple weeks, the democratic convention next month. joe biden will be the democratic nominee. we have 120 days to continue to reach out to the voters, make the case , we have a lot of things to run on, we could have a very successful presidential campaign after a very successful presidential administration and educate voters, get ready to organize and get out the vote. that is where the focus ought to be. that is what i will stress on my colleagues when we return tomorrow. to answer your question you have and asked me yet, i talked to the president. the answer to that is just yesterday, for the fourth of july weekend, i did reach out.

we went through some of the internal polling information, the calendar, as we discussed, and he sounded as eager as i have seen. he is taking this campaign seriously. he believes the stakes are just too high. >> senator, you, i did not know you spoke to the president yesterday. my question is, you know, i know having previously worked for the president, he does these outreach calls during the holidays and was to check in on people. i think these calls are also, you know, talking to, reaching out to talk to elected officials he had likely connected with, especially in the aftermath of the debate.

could you elaborate a little bit more on that conversation with the president? there are some folks that anonymously said they spoke to the president last week, this past week, and he suggested he somehow would not stay in the race, depending on what the polling says. what was the nature of your conversation with the president? did he seem resolute? was he concerned about any of the chatter? did he ask you for anything? >> he seemed very resolute, in terms of staying in the race and his ability to win, most importantly. the entire conversation was just two days before the debate, it was not months and months and months since we have not connected and have not interacted. he was, you know, kind of walking me through the information, some of the research we need since the debates. there is no bleeding in the polls. the point you made, a significant difference, that is what these are about. here's the bottom line when it comes to the state of the race. the fact of the matter is, there is nowhere in america, joe biden has been president almost 4 years.

america knows donald trump was a disaster for the prior four years. the fact of the matter is, most democrats will vote democratic in november and most republicans will vote republican. there is a small percentage of independent voters in the middle and only a handful of swing states will determine the outcome of this election. i think that is why you have seen the consistency in the polling, not just for the last few days but for weeks and months and months and months, frankly. so joe biden, working with democrats in congress, will continue to deliver, you know, number one and number two, consider the case that he deserves a second term and we deserve to regain the majority of both the house of representatives and keep the majority in the the senator senate to keep the good work going. >> i want you to listen, senator padilla, to a new digital ad coming from the biden campaign, this is the president in wisconsin.

>> let me ask you, what you think? do you think i am too old to restore roe v. wade as a law of the land and install a weapons ban and defeat donald trump jr >> no! >> it is about our freedom, our democracy, the very soul of america but are you prepared to fight for that? >> yeah! >> i know i am and i will. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the campaign seems pretty clear, senator, about what they're going to do. that interview with stephanopoulos, they will have the president out there on the stump and they will be pushing this message. my question to you is about what happens internally inside the party? senator warner will have his meeting, you got an invitation, you may attend, who was the leadership within the party that will make sure there are not further factions, giving you have seen five members of the house democratic caucus,

one of them a front runner, already come forward and say it is time for the president to reconsider. >> the bottom line is, joe biden is the leader of our party. we are committed to ensuring he has a second term and that donald trump does not win in november. the stakes are simply too high. i think wing congress reconvenes, of course there is the process of people getting things off their chests and concerns, the democratic governors met with president biden last week, the leadership in congress and members of congress, in both the house and the senate, to remind everyone that everything needs to happen and everybody needs to do their parts, in the front lines of the house, they can stand up to

liberty and do what they need to do in their particular districts. the big picture remains democrats have the majority at congress and will defeat donald trump jr this november and every democratic leader needs to ask themselves whether they want to do this between now and november. that is the case because the stakes are just too high. >> senator, we have more questions for you but i need to sneak in a quick break. plea stay with us. i want to get your reaction to the supreme court's decision. ♪ ♪ cision. ♪ ♪

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♪♪ the supreme court's immunity ruling made the issue of his second term turn urgent. a new piece for msnbc daily said it is quest involved whether the guardrails of our military officers' owes to defend the constitution would be able to sustain our democracy in a second trump administration. a member of the senate judiciary committee, senator alex padilla, is with us. >> senator msnbc.com, what concerns you most about the ruling from the supreme court this weekend had there been conversation within the senate judiciary committee, even via text, i know you all have been out, what, if anything, you all can do about this? >> yeah, the supreme court decision, it is deeply troubling and dangerous. you have the extremists on the supreme court. a second presidential trump

term with immunity for what he does in office, he already so what he would do. he would become an authoritarian, he would try to punish his enemies. he has done that in the past. he could do even more damage to our democracy if trump is elected in november. it raises the stakes and why we need to get out and make sure that doesn't happen this november. it sort of re-fuels the conversation. the supreme court, i don't know how much more of this extremists undermining the democracy we can handle. >> senator, you have a couple things that are playing out at the same time. want is the obvious drama around the court's decision and

then the political narrative on the republican side, really, kind of moving some of those decisions. on the democratic side is the response, the political response, to this court. you have the biden campaign planning to put out a large seven-figure avenue by that goes after this immunity ruling, making sure that it will leverage as much of that information and get it in front of the public as possible. then you have elected senators like yourself sitting on the judiciary who are in the position to oversee, i mean, we have three coequal branches of government here. at least one of them seems to be a little bit out of alignment. how do you see whether, in the remainder of this term or in the next term, the senate taking a more active role in looking at the ethical lapses

and violations, looking at the politicization of some of these decisions of the court, how, what do you see prospectively can be done to deal with the court that is now set up potentially in a peril presidency. >> a couple of things. first, the political ramifications you started with. in 2020, we had the most consequential election of our lifetime, or was at the time. since then, we had january 6th, yes, there have been how many convictions and how many more indictments of former president trump that needs to be considered by voters when they go to vote this november. there is also the dobbs decision that affects roe v. wade. we have seen the supreme court act to undermine state and local governments' efforts to combat that and advance gun safety measures, offset gun safety measures. on and on and on, we have seen

the extreme supreme court undermining what is in the best interest of our country. now you have a supreme court who is willing to grant immunity, knowing full well we have donald trump as a candidate for president that would try to act like an authoritarian, a dictator. he is making no bones about that. this takes continue to get higher. what can senators do in the meantime? the judiciary committee needs to call for hearings and oversight. the biggest frustration has been the lack of cooperation by the supreme court, beginning with chief justice roberts. other investigations will get you the information we need. we are committed to it. the best thing we can do to try to rein in the supreme court is advance an and forcible code of ethics they have resisted for so long.

i think most of the public is shocked there is no enforceable code of ethics for supreme court justices. there is for every other level of the judiciary, there is president of the united states but we need one for the supreme court justices. last, like you said, there are three coequal branches of government for checks and balances. now they will give candidates for president carte blanche, it is too dangerous, it is too risky. our democracy deserves better. >> senator alex padilla of california, thank you for spending time with us this morning. really appreciate it. next, president biden calls out donald trump's attempt to distance himself from project 2025. trump doing his own version of the heisman. this is "the weekend". ♪ ♪ kend".

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keep the conversation going here. as you heard, we came on the air, donald trump, he ought to try to distance himself from project 2025. president biden is having none of that. in a new statement about the conservative blueprint for a second trump term the presiden't pick, donald trump is lying again now. he is trying to hide his connections to his allies' extreme project 2025 agenda. the only problem? it was written for him, by those closest to him. joining us now is a msnbc political contributor and co- author, eugene daniels. alicia , he was like, what is this re-? explained to me, tell me, how is the man trying to distance himself? >> i missed the answer, what is the answer, eugene?

>> how he is trying to distance himself is the normal trumpian way. >> not the how, perhaps not the how. >> [ laughter ] >> you can replace that. >> how does he believe that it is possibly plausible that you have all of these former trump officials, deerbourne, hamilton, carson, put them on the screen. >> put them on the screen. eyes he is trying to act like you don't know them. >> this is what clearly donald trump is looking at the conversation around project 2025 and is seeing it is not doing republicans any favors, right? he only makes these kinds of pronouncements and wants everyone to believe things, as if our eyes can't see and we see on the list we just saw there, all the folks around him were part of this. they wrote this for him and are excited to do this for him. he wants you to not look at that. he wants you to realize, he realizes it is not good for the republican party. that tells you a lot about how

long it took to actually get to him. often, what donald trump, if it is not his idea or the person he directly hired, he will say, i didn't do this. i think it is impossible he had never heard of it. he also said he didn't agree with some of the things in there. he heard of the people who have been doing it and they themselves say they talked to him often. >> let me hell donald trump al. mr. trump, just get closer to the screen. i am going to play something for you to help you understand you know a lot more about project 2025 that maybe you think you do. let's listen to what steve bannon had to say about all of this. he says, what do you think a second trump administration would look like in the first few weeks? months? steve bannon said project 2025 and others are working on it . who is the inner circle? who is the chief of staff?

bannon. i think you will have someone who knows what is going on. guys like dr. kevin roberts and others. so this idea that he could actually step away from, um, this project and pretend it doesn't happen or he doesn't know what it is, the architects of it are folks that are in his inner circle. >> his allies are going to be further in the inner circle if he is the president of the united states. >> that could be his chief of staff. >> what is really interesting, this happens all the time, groups, as we are getting closer to an election, whether it is democrats or republicans, right or left, they say this is

what we would like to see the next president do but this is different. you have in donald trump, who we all know is not truly interested in policy, right? >> yeah. >> there is much more of an opening. these heritage foundation folks know there is much more of an opening for them to get in and do basically whatever they want. donald trump has talked about the things he wants to focus on but this other stuff is things that, you know, they could do with trump's go ahead if he is actually in there. he is not super interested in the day to day of the presidency. >> that's right. the recent supreme court ruling, such as the immunity decision, the chevron decision, so many in this particular term have done more to we rode the ability of the federal government to operate effectively as the heritage foundation and trump folks like to say deconstruct the administrative scene so it is there i was very happy to see the president himself going on offense on this project 2025 piece, namely, we have all heard, democrats want to see more fight in joe biden. the man is fighting. then you have chris murphy,

senator chris murphy, who was just on another network this morning saying he thinks the president needs to do more to assuage concerns that democrats have and they are critical. what we just heard from senator padilla, i don't know we have the sound, senator alex padilla said the president called him yesterday and walked him through. we do have that. >> in california for the fourth of july weekend, he reached out , he went through some of the internal points as we discussed on the calendar, he is as prompt and eager as i have seen to make sure he is taking this campaign seriously. >> senator padilla saying not only is the president being on

offense out here and we can see with our own eyes and hear with their own ears, he is also picking up the phone doing some of that hand to hand conversation with senate democrats. >> i mean, it was surprising he wasn't doing that earlier. it is his superpower. the kind of touch, the phone call, the fact that he wasn't doing that tells us whether or not they actually had, how big a problem they thought they had after the debate in calling padilla, who is not a member of leadership. he says he is at least starting to call the rank and file senate democrats as they head back in, as congress comes back in. what we have heard is that there will be a deluge people, now that they will be around each other, now hakeem jefferies or go to chuck schumer and talk to biden until he has to go. he is clearly trying to shore up that support. by doing that, he had the interview on friday, which, you know, the results are mixed. >> why are the results mixed? >> the results are mixed because it was just good enough

for the people around biden to say, see, we told you he is fine but not a knock out of the park so that the people that were so concerned -- >> i will tell you, eugene, there is nothing, nothing this president can do that will assuage those people. their minds are made up. can we stop this pretense joe biden needs to do more to prove to me that he is capable of doing the job while the man is doing the job? alicia, i don't know how you see this stuff, but the way i am looking at it right now, all this noise we are getting from folks, you know, well, you know, i think the president needs to do more. please define expressly what that more is he needs to do that would make you happy. i don't understand. i don't get the dynamic people are trying to put in play here around a president who recognized he made a mistake and had a bad night, for whatever reason, has been trying to clean up on aisle nine every day. democrats keep spelling crap on

the other aisles. >> eugene, it was neither you nor i being taken to task. that is frustration your hearing. >> thank you. >> michael steel mill shoots down the polls and political talk. michael still has something to say. >> i think there is an important thing to say that you can tease out for us, eugene, the question michael just posed to democrats who are saying that president biden is going to need to do more to create a sense of competence, michael just framed it as he needs to prove the critique, that he needs to prove he can do the job of the presidency. there is an additional critique, which is he needs to prove he can be an effective political candidate. i understand those critiques

are happening side-by-side and some people are talking about the other. i largely interpret what democrats are saying, not the ones who are calling for him to step aside but those calling for a little bit more to shore up the democratic insiders. we are not talking about the democratic coalition, we are talking about voters and what needs to be done so when senator warner has that meeting, everybody is singing from the same songbook and saying, this is our guy and we are moving for. i am curious about who it is in democratic leadership who is going to be able to do that?

not in the biden world, we know where biden world is. who it is, is it house leadership, senate leadership who will half to, at least within their own caucuses, right that shift? >> why are they letting senator warner have this meeting? >> i think hakeem jeffries has a call today with the committee chairman and ranking members to have that conversation and see where they want to go and what he can do to stem the bleeding. chuck schumer is probably working with phone calls, as well, especially after the reporting about warner. i think what is happening, a lot of what is happening is people have been frustrated 3 1/2 years that the biden world folks often don't feel open to criticism or open to advice. so now, you know, this debate was not last week, this was a week and half ago, even longer than that, so they have not appreciated how slow it has taken for president biden to kind of get out there, right? they wanted it to be much more immediate. also, i will say, it rubs people the wrong way how defiant he has been and in that interview talking about how he is the only person in the party and the idea the only thing that matters at the end of the day, even if he loses is that he tried his hardest. those are things that did not

assuage those folks and as michael said, is not going to. leadership basically needs evidence they can take to the rank and file as they move for this we. there is nato and the press conference later in the week. they can save the debate was a mess, he did not do a good job, maybe they could've done more but he had a couple rallies, he saw black voters and union folks, he did this interview, he had a press conference, he has tried to prove to you guys he can do this thing, the job, and also make the case against donald trump. that is what president biden is trying to give these leaders as evidence they can go and critically say to the rank and file, he did the thing so chill out. whether or not that works remains to be seen. democrats are often hair on fire anyway. this week is going to be over and over of them saying loudly and on the record, at this point, they want president biden to step aside. he doesn't really care that much for what they say, >> i hope they are keeping a

less. >> i am learning michael steele's based to know when he is biting his tongue. >> eugene daniels, thank you so much, always. next, speaking of nato, an important lesson about the peaceful transfer of power from our friends across the pond. this is "the weekend". w ♪♪ ♪

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>> you know, this really struck me because it seems as though our friends across the pond and i would also argue all throughout europe, are kind of like, look, america, we can be the adults in the room, if in fact you can't get it together. you have the guardian, the headline of this guardian story, goodwill on all sides, transfer of uk power the antithesis of the last u.s. election. the sub headline, donald trump refused to concede and incited riots but rishi sunak conducted himself with civility and respect. don't be sad, this is the magic of democracy. i just, i just -- >> that is how it should be. it is how it used to work here. y'all remember the days, america. >> it is now it always worked until donald trump. >> at least 244 years, you know, we had that peaceful transfer of power. we will again. you know, i think, i mean, this election, the american people should send a very clear signal that is what they want. they want, you know, a good, hard-fought political campaign,

which we are going to have, but at the end of it, we've got to move on to the next administration and the vanquished, the loser, stands as all losers before them and say, you won. godspeed. let me know how i can help. donald trump, get used to those words, just, you know. >> the world is watching. the world is watching. they do care and are paying attention. next, outgoing nato secretary jens stoltenberg will join us at the table to talk about just that and preparing for this weekend's nato summit in washington, d.c.. you are watching "the weekend".

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with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪ ♪♪ leaders from more than 30 countries are set to convene in washington, d.c. for the nato summit this week. the alliance marks its 75th anniversary. ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky is set to meet with leaders to discuss his nation's path into the alliance. according to "politico", it could turn to the looming u.s. presidential election. outgoing nato secretary jens stoltenberg, nato secretary, thank you for being here. >> i was going to say, it is a real pleasure to welcome you and have you here at the table on "the weekend". it was a busy week, as we were talking off fair for yourself,

the president and the world leaders are now gathered here. how do you assess nato at this point, as you mark this 75th year, as you begin to turn the corner into the next part of this century, given what we have seen play out in europe, with the recent elections there, including the labour party taking the lead and the new prime minister in britain and, of course, our elections this november. how do you see the alliance right now, given some of the changes that are happening globally, as well as him domestically? >> nato is the most successful in history because we have been able to be together, despite that we are 32 different nations, different political partners, different nations and different cultures. we have always been able to unite to prevent war and

preserve peace. now we live in a more dangerous world, a new war in europe, a new war in the middle east and the rise of china. that just makes nato even more important. the good news is, we are able to make big decisions together. for instance, this week we will have new decisions on defense. we have a record number of european allies spending more than 2% of their gdp on defense. when we agreed to increase the defense budget 10 years ago, only three countries met the guidelines. it is not only the u.s., but the collective alliance. >> very good. >> mr. secretary-general, i think about zelenskyy, president zelenskyy of ukraine, who will be here to huddle with a number of different folks, he will notably have a meeting on capitol hill. he said this on bloomberg

television friday. i am just going to read it. he said, quote, they can't plan my life and the life of our people and our children, said president zelenskyy. we want to understand whether in november we will have the powerful support of the u.s. or will be all alone. there is lots of reporting that knows that during president zelenskyy's visit, that is a question he is seeking to answer. is that a question that you or members of the nato alliance have? willed the united states, after november 5, depending on if president biden is not reelected, you concerned you will not have the support you need in these various fronts? it is ukraine. there is also what is happening between israel and hamas. i mean, there is a level of uncertainty in the world right now and the alliance needs to remain strong. >> you never have guarantees. it is for the voters to decide and there are different political parties. i expect that the united states will remain a strong ally and

will continue to provide support to ukraine because that is in the security interest of the united states. if president putin wins in ukraine, it is not only a tragedy for ukraine, it will embolden president putin and embolden president xi. china, north korea and iraq are supporting russia. they want nato and the u.s. to fail in ukraine. our support of ukraine is not just about ukraine but our own security. >> staying on the topic of ukraine, one of the ideas that have been floated by the right, specifically by donald trump, you have ruled out a peace deal, predicated on the fact this has been tried before and has not worked.

can you talk us through the lessons that have been learned and why you do not believe that is the best path for? >> first and foremost, it is for ukrainians to decide what are acceptable conditions for negotiations and what will be acceptable conditions as they negotiate a solution. second, the easiest way to end this war is for president putin, who started the war, is to stop attacking his neighbors, stop attacking ukraine. of course, the quickest way to end the war is to bring peace. that is to bring peace to ukraine. president putin realizes they cannot win that he cannot achieve his aim of controlling ukraine by military force. the only way to get there is to provide military support to ukraine so president putin has to sit down and a great to a solution for ukraine and ukraine remains a sovereign and

independent nation. to bal and could capitulate to putin will increase the risk for more war, for more aggressive actions by both russia and by china and as the prime minister said recently, what happens in ukraine today could happen in asia tomorrow. they are concerned about taiwan in the south china sea as to what happens with ukraine and to support ukraine. >> mr. secretary-general, there was a little debate in the u.s. last thursday that caused quite a stir and has continued to do so. there is some reporting out in the last couple of days as the nato alliance comes to washington that members of nato and other leaders around the globe are concerned about president biden. i want to gauge the concern in nato about a reemerging president donald trump.

what they see 2025ã2026-2027 looking like for the alliance, given what we already know, former president trump demanded nato and thinks of nato what concerns does nato have looking ahead, if trump reemerges as president? >> i was secretary-general for four years when former president trump was the former president of the united states and i worked 3 1/2 years with president biden. it is always important to me to not be part of parts and political domestic discussions inside any nato ally, the united states or any other nato ally. on some of the main issues, for instance, the need for european allies to spend more than their fair share in the alliance, that has been a constant message from consecutive years of president for many years and

they all have a point. the good news is, this is not really changing. the allies are stepping up and investing more, both in the defense budgets but the allies are spending at record high but also the fact that when it comes to ukraine, more than half of the support for ukraine comes from european allies and canada. the main message from both president trump and from president biden and president obama has not been addressed and that just underlines my confidence the united states will remain a staunch ally. spent mr. secretary-general, you are the outgoing secretary- general and i would be remiss if i did not say you presided over nato at a very tumultuous

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that does it for us. we end on a dignified node. we will see you saturday at 8:00 a.m. eastern. follow us on social media at the weekend msnbc. our coverage continues with the great ali velshi. good morning, ali. >> i was ready for that great discussion but i'm more riveted by the segment we are starting right now. the first time we are ever doing it hear we