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supplies to just stay up there indefinitely? >> they do. so they're docked at the space station, the space station has plenty of supplies, plenty of water, plenty of o2, plenty of food, they have other people up there of course as well and they're helping out the crew on the space station with various jobs. and they're trying to help engineers on the ground better understand what is happening to their spaceship, to starliner. listen, nasa has also insisted we are not looking at a possibility that spacex would have to come up and rescue the starliner crew. that's not in the cards. they simply want to better understand how this has happened with the thrusters so that when they re-enter the atmosphere, if one of them goes bad, then they can calculate how they make up for that bad thruster. >> important decisions to be made. tom costello, thank you very much, my friend. that does it for us today. i'll be back tomorrow, same time, same place. for now, i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york.
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jose diaz-balart picks up our coverage right now. good morning. it is 11:00 a.m. eastern. 8:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. we begin with breaking news from washington, d.c. any moment now, president biden is set to stop by a meeting of national union leaders at afl-cio headquarters. after that, he will head over to the nato leaders' summit. all this as the president faces more questions about his health and re-election campaign. here's what nancy pelosi said when asked if the president has her support to be the democratic nominee. >> it is up to the president to decide if he is going to run. we're all encouraging him to make that decision because time is running short. >> he has made the decision. he said firmly this week, he is going to run.
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do you want him to run? >> i want him to do whatever he decides to do. and that's the way it is. whatever he decides, we go. and i said, everyone, let's just hold off, whatever you're thinking, either tell somebody privately, but you don't have to put that out on the table until we see how we go this week. >> with us now, nbc news white house correspondent aaron gilchrist and nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. so, aaron, is there any reaction from the white house or the biden campaign to nancy pelosi's remarks this morning? >> reporter: well, we did reach out to the biden campaign to see what, if any, response they would have to the former speaker's comments today. the campaign has not been offering responses to every person who has come out and had something to say, one way or the other. in this case, they did refer us to some previous comments that we had gotten from the campaign. they pointed us to a letter, the president's letter to congressional democrats where he
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reiterated his commitment to winning this campaign. the quote that they directed us to, i am firmly committed to staying in this race, to running this race to the end, and to beating donald trump. the campaign went a little further and pointed us to previous comments from speaker pelosi where she did say she supports president biden and also pointed us to a list of comments from other members of the house and members of the senate who have expressed that they are backing president biden as well. and really this just adds to the narrative that we have been seeing over the last several days, where there is a clear divide in the democratic party over what exactly to say, how strongly to come out for or against the president, as he goes through this time post debate where there are a lot of questions about whether he should be the candidate, jose. >> ali, has there been any reaction on capitol hill? >> reporter: certainly when nancy pelosi speaks, democrats listen and on this one i are to have to tell you, the number of emoji laden texts i've gotten with the eyes emoji, people are surprised to hear what the
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speaker emerita had to say about this. they are certainly listening to her as someone who is maybe technically out of leadership, but very much a thought leader within this party. and even just in the last minute or so as i was getting ready to come on the air with you, senator sheldon whitehouse came around the corner, flanked by reporters, and said he thought that speaker pelosi nailed it this morning. certainly that's a voice that is -- that people are paying attention to and as we continue to track democrats' reactions, not just on the house side of the building, where pelosi is part of that democratic caucus, on the senate side of the building here too, we are talking with senators including those who are supportive of the president, who are still sort of playing this game where they are aware of the fact that he is staying in this race, that he has been vocal and clear about that. but at the same time, they are leaving the space to say he continues to need to prove himself and to show that he can carry the message over the finish line. i think we might have sound, i'll ask your control room to play it if they do of some of
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the conversations we had this morning. listen. >> how long can this trial phase go on with democrats doubting his abilities? how much longer can you all do this? >> i think he will continue to make his case to the american people. >> but do you think -- >> he's the one who will decide. i think that this kind of internal debate will end at some point. >> reporter: the next question that i asked the senator there was when. because the other concern that i heard from people is that the longer that this continues to drag on, potentially even through the republican convention next week, when the contrast should be on full display between the republican party of donald trump and the democratic party right now of joe biden, the concern is that the continued back and forth could weaken the democratic nominee if biden remains in that place. but you heard from senator blumenthal there support, but also the thing that we heard consistently over the last
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nearly two weeks now, which is that joe biden still has to prove himself to democrats here. >> and, ali, colorado senator michael bennet became the first senate democrat to warn president biden cannot beat trump, saying in public what his colleagues have been saying in private. just how divided are senate democrats? >> reporter: well, bennet, of course, is someone who came out last night, said and really owned what he said in the private democratic caucus meeting. that's really one of the things we were watching yesterday, democrats who might have been willing to air their grievances, concerns, their panic in some cases about biden as the nominee privately have not been willing to do so publicly. bennet, of course, came out and said, yeah, that's what i said to my colleagues in a very lengthy democratic lunch yesterday. and he remains out there as one of the few vocal senate democrats about concerns about biden's electability. there is that divide we're watching emerge, whether or not senators will continue to take
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that position alongside bennet or if they are as senator bob casey, for example, in the last hour or so, said to me here in the halls, he's not concerned in the way that bennet is about biden's electability and, of course, bob casey is one of those other democrats that we're watching here closely, because he is in a hot re-election contest in battleground pennsylvania. every democrat who is playing defense for their senate seat right now is essential to the larger senate calculus of being able to maintain control of this chamber. that was already going to be a tall order. but that's a big part of why we're seeing senators privately vent their concerns, is there are concerns about the impact of biden at the top of the ticket. >> and, aaron, we expect the president to be speaking with union leaders any moment now. what do we expect him to talk about? >> reporter: this is really a part of the president's effort, the white house's effort, the biden campaign's effort to move on, to turn the page on this. they believe that now is the time to do that, and it is worth
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noting that the president in the days immediately after the debate did come out and say that he had a bad debate, he admitted to that, he apologized in some instances, but that's been much quieter over the last several days. we haven't heard the campaign talking about that to the extent that they were doing it in the days immediately after. the president left the white house a few minutes ago, five or six minutes ago, a little bit behind schedule to go to this meeting of the afl-cio executive council where we understand he's going to be meeting with the national presidents of about 60 different unions and the idea here is that he wants to talk to them, he will address them and answer some of their questions, really trying to rally the support of one of the arms of the coalition that he's built over the course of the last several months during the campaigning. we have seen him go out and talk to voters, we saw him last night talk with mayors, democratic mayors as well as with democratic governors last week. this is part of the campaign's work, they say, of the president getting out there, talking to people about what he's done and what he wants to do in a second
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term. >> aaron and ali, stay with us. i want to go to this and let's live in the moment. let's see the president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] >> four more years! four more years! four more years! four more years! four more years! four more years. >> wow, wow, wow! wow! this is family. >> this is the executive council of the afl-cio in washington, d.c. and there he is being received. >> we couldn't be more honored that with all those nato leaders waiting for you down the street that you came here to the house of labor. yes. >> when the president does speak, i'm going to -- let's go back as he's being introduced there. and, aaron, you were talking about this is part of the white
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house -- the re-election campaign's attempts to put this -- turn the page. it is something that, you know, a lot of people are asking about, about this drip, drip, drip from some house and some senators, just how does the campaign turn the page? >> reporter: well, they believe exactly what you're seeing now is an example of how they do that. they just continue to do the things that a campaign would normally be doing at this point in the process and in this case, they want to see president biden out there more. we saw him over the weekend in pennsylvania. the friday before that he was in wisconsin. this coming friday, he will head to michigan to rally supporters as well. >> let's listen in. >> please, sit down. sit down. look, number one, you know, the way i look at it i was thinking about this last night, going from here to the nato summit, we have two strong, strong
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organizations in america that i look to for our security. one literally, i mean this sincerely, is nato. nato will join an assembly of democracies to make sure we're keeping the peace and no one is going to screw around with us, as strong as it has ever been. i think of you as my domestic nato. not a joke. not a joke. you're the ones, you're the ones, beyond me, and, you know, you know better than i do, beyond me it is all about whether or not we're going to grow the economy. whether we're going to give working people a shot. and i told you and you know because you -- a lot of you with me all the way back when i was a kid, i'm only 42, but -- when i was a kid, back around the senate when i was 29 years old, labor elected me. we were then a right to work state and we changed it all. here's what we're doing. you are -- you heard me say it a thousand times, i'll say it again, middle class built this
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country. you built the middle class. no, no, no. by the way, i don't want to hurt your reputations, but you know wall street is acknowledging your power. no, i'm serious. look at every projection about what we want to do with the economy, on the issues that we're talking about, and what the other guy wants to do. they're supporting us. it is your agenda we're working on. i said from the beginning that when labor does well, everybody does better. not a joke. [ applause ] that's not a talking point. that is a reality. you know that. it is a reality. it is absolute reality. when we were going -- making -- i said ways going to be the most pro union president in american history, guess what, i am. and i'm staying there. i mean it. [ applause ] because you represent the folks
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i grew up with, you represent where i come from, you represent the vast majority of the american people. and i come from a household with three bedroom -- we weren't poor, but we weren't -- we didn't have anything left over at the end of the month. three bedroom house, four kids, grandpop lived with us, i look back how my dad handled it. the point is that we just -- we just give people a fighting chance. when i got elected, and when i was -- when you guys were with me all the way back to the '70s when i was a kid, what we talked about was the whole idea this was to give everybody a shot, no guarantees, just a shot. an even shot. and that's why i determined -- and we have done it with your help and your leadership, we're going to build this country from the bottom up and the middle out, not the top down. [ applause ] i mean it. not a joke. not a joke. i'm not going to -- they're
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warning me not to take too much time today in terms of talking. here's the deal, the fact of the matter is look at what all the major economists including the wall street economists are saying. they're looking at his proposal, what he's done, and what our proposal is moving forward. and overwhelmingly, overwhelmingly you got 16 nobel laureates and economic -- and they won the noble prize for economics, 16 of them. what did they say? they say his proposals are going to bankrupt the country. his proposals are going to cause a recession. his proposals are going to cause higher interest rates. and what we -- what you and i and you've been helping me, you've been following me and i've been following you, what we propose is growing the country. no, no, we're going to -- the fastest growing economy in the world. that's a fact. we're the strongest economy in the world. here's what we ought to do. got to talk to our people. we got to talk to our people. food prices are still too high
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because of corporate greed. we're in a situation where rents are too high. we need more housing. the whole range of things we're going to get done with your help in the second term because that's what we got to get done. so, folks, i have -- i've never been more optimistic about america's chances, not because of me, but because of what we're doing together. i mean it. we're better positioned than any country in the world to own the remainder of the 21st century because of union labor. [ cheers and applause ] i'm serious. >> thank you, mr. president! we're going to have a conversation. >> president biden there with leaders of the afl-cio in washington, d.c. >> -- and it does. more minorities, more women, more labor. i'm serious.
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think about it. that's who we are. that's why we're strong. we're diverse. we're strong. we got to stop looking -- it is an asset. >> so we lost the camera, but we're hearing there the president was still at it and still had something to say and just a point from observation it seems like there was no teleprompter there. the president speaking off the cuff canwith the leaders of the afl-cio. i want to continue our conversation with california congressman alex padilla, a member of the biden campaign's national advisory board and someone who i'm always honored to be able to speak with. senator, i know that you are a supporter of the president, wholeheartedly. i want your thoughts on what we just saw right now. >> good to be back with you, jose. that was great. that is joe being joe. for anybody wondering if he's committed to the campaign, there
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you have it. see him out there work hard. if anybody is wondering whether we have a winning message, there you have it. joe biden fighting for the working class, fighting for economic opportunity, and running on a successful record for last three and a half years with much more to do. and so i'm excited about the next 117 days. i remind my colleagues every day, voters across america every day, we have 117 days to work hard to ensure the biden/harris ticket is re-elected for another four years and we defeat donald trump because of the dangers that he represents. >> why do you think it is, senator, there has been so much noise and talk and obfuscation around what the president is and is not doing? he's been crisscrossing the country. he's been visiting many states since that debate debacle. he is now, you know, yesterday he was speaking with nato
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officials. he is now this short comment in -- at the afl-cio leadership council going back to nato. why do you think there is so much clout around this? >> the fact that congress has been out of session, reconvened just a day and a half ago, all these conversations are kind of finally being aired out. but here is how i see it. yes, tomorrow marks a two-week time since the debate with president biden himself acknowledged was not his best performance. but what have we seen since them? we have seen him at rallies, we have seen him in interviews, we saw a strong delivery during the opening ceremonies of the nato summit here in washington, d.c. and now we see him at the afl-cio and i'm looking forward to his press conference tomorrow and his working part to earn re-election. for my colleagues who have had questions or concerns, you know,
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they expressed them, i think the president answered them. he delivered a letter to our inbox first thing monday morning saying thank you, i've heard you, i've done the reflection, i've done the consideration, i'm committed to this race, too much is at stake this november, we're running to defeat donald trump and to continue the progress that we made these last two and a half years. >> senator, just wondering about if you heard nancy pelosi on "morning joe" this morning when she said it is up to the president to decide if he's going to run. many would say that doesn't sound like a whole hearted endorsement. how did you see those words? >> yeah, look, i heard about them. i didn't see the interview, i heard about them. and, again, i think a lot of -- with all due respect to speaker pelosi, she's been a friend for many years, a lot of people are still airing out the questions and concerns, but the reality is two things, joe biden has given us his answer. now it is time to move forward, the more time, the energy, the energy we commit to questioning or wondering is time and energy that we need to be focusing on
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reaching out to voters, organizing, mobilizing and getting ready to get out the vote. >> how do you explain to folks, the democrats, to some at the house and the senate, that are worried about their own personal future and seeing that it may be tied to president biden more so than maybe in the past, and so what is your message to them? it does seem like, senator, regardless of the political spectrum that you're on, that when you have one political party and some of its leadership or at least those that make up leadership questions over and over again the leader of their political party, it really is damaging more to the entire political party than it is to maybe that leader. >> yeah, look, i get the concern. i'll remind us of the old adage all politics is local. jose, my sparetime, served as vice chair of the democratic senate campaign committee and can look there is a presidential
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race, presidential campaign, presidential election strategy, and each of my colleagues that are up for re-election, especially those in tough re-elections have their own unique strategy for how to win in ohio, in montana, in wisconsin, and in nevada, in arizona, et cetera, with their unique coalition of voters. they are not mutually exclusive, the commonality is our values and priorities as democrats. do you want to continue the momentum of the last two and a half years, continue to fight for reproductive rights, continue to tackle climate change, bring down the cost for working families including capping the cost of insulin at $35? or do you want to go back to the policies of donald trump, the chaos of his administration and worse, between the supreme court's immunity ruling, giving him cart blanche, his threats to serve as a dictator, put political opponents in jail, and begin mass deportations across the country, the choice and the contrast couldn't be clearer this november.
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and that's where our focus should be. defeat donald trump, re-elect joe biden. >> senator, i'm heading over to los angeles today. i'm going to be part of the national association of hispanic journalists and i was thinking, you know, you and my friendship and work for many years, before you were senator, when we would go to different high schools in los angeles area to talk to young people about the importance of registering to vote and to become part of our democratic process from an early age, just thinking how would you see the health of our youth and do you see that young people are clear in the understanding that they can make a difference, but they must participate? >> yes, i think the understanding and the awareness is absolutely there. and that's why the work of the next 117 days is so critical. the outreach, the organizing, the putting to work, to help
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spread the word, spread the message of why their vote this november is so important. look, i remember, like it was just yesterday when we approached the november 2020 election calling it the most consequential election of our lifetime. and it was at the time. but what happened since then? it started with the january 6th insurrection. we have seen not just indictments but convictions of the former president, now the republican nominee. i don't get that, the part that used to consider themselves the party of law and order nominating a convicted felon to be the president of the united states. and we have seen disastrous decisions by the supreme court from dobbs decision to the presidential immunity ruling, so much is at stake. i think when you lay it out for young people, they especially understand the significance of it and are going to be turning up to vote in record numbers this november. >> senator alex padilla, a pleasure to see you, thank you for your time. >> thank you, jose. safe travels. >> thanks. up next, one week from today donald trump's running mate is scheduled to address the
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republican national convention. but who is it? next, the latest reporting on how soon trump could announce. and right now a group of angry creditors facing off with trump ally rudy giuliani. what we're hearing out of a new york courtroom this morning. any moment, an update from the astronauts temporarily on pause in space. we're back in 90 seconds. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. r, i recommend prevagen. number one, because it's effective. does not require a prescription. and i've been taking it quite a while myself and i know it works. and i love it when the customers come back in and tell me, "david, that really works so good for me." makes my day. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. (vo) you've had thyroid eye disease for a long time. and you've lived with the damage it caused. but even after all these years, restoration is still possible.
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25 past the hour. this morning, new reaction after former president trump returned to the campaign trail for his first event in two weeks. during a rally at his golf club in doral, florida, he teased his vice presidential pick while wrapping up attacks on vice president harris. he also challenged biden to another debate and a round of golf. >> let's do another debate this week so that sleepy joe biden can prove to everyone all over the world that he has what it takes to be president. i'm also officially challenging crooked joe to an 18-hole golf match right here. >> joining us now, nbc's dasha burns from miami and carlos curbelo from florida, he is an nbc news political analyst. good morning. we didn't get an announcement last night about trump's running
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mate. what do we know about how that's going? >> reporter: yeah, no announcement last night, jose, but plenty of teasing of the announcement before he spoke at the rally, his campaign sent out a fund-raiing email saying i might announce tonight, you should all tune in. he's really ramped up the teasing out of this decision, of this announcement as he's largely been out of the news cycle. they have been sitting back watching what's going on, on the other side of the aisle. this is the one major decision, one major mystery left on the trump campaign and they really have been playing that up. as you know, florida senator marco rubio, who is one of the names on the short list was at that rally last night. he spoke in front of the crowd and the former president even during his speech said, you know, i think a lot of people showed up here because they thought i might announce a marco rubio as my pick. he knows and he's been playing this reality competition show game with this decision. we know that the three top
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contenders right now as far as our reporting has shown are florida senator marco rubio, north dakota governor doug burgum and ohio senator jd vance. there are different factions who are each hoping it will be one of those three gentlemen. as for the timing, it is sometime between now, jose, and sometime at the republican convention, which is a complicating factor because there is a lot that goes into, a, the convention, and then a lot that goes into the rollout of a vp. so the folks behind the scenes, i'm sure, are as eager to learn this as we are because they need to prepare and make sure that this rollout is executed properly. so, we are reading the tea leaves, the next big event is saturday in pennsylvania, jose, could be another potential moment. but it could also just happen that the convention and we're doing all we can to learn the who and the when as quickly as potential, jose. >> dasha burns in miami, thank you so very much. i want to turn to you, carlos,
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it seems as though trump said what's going on with president biden right now may kind of influence him one way or another on who he chooses for vice presidential candidate. what do you think that is all about? >> there is a lot of strategy in these decisions and if the democrats would have made a shift this week or who knows what will happen here in the next few days, right, because everything is so fluid, then president trump might choose someone else. i think the more confidence he gets in the fact that he may win this race, the less he will look at someone like marco rubio who i believe offers him the most political benefit, two big constituencies that rubio will give him a boost with hispanics, and also some of these republicans that are skeptical of donald trump. but, if trump feels confident and we know he feels very confident right now given the polling and everything we're hearing from him, then i could really see burgum, jd vance or
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perhaps a surprise pick for vice president. so, i think they're smart to wait to see how things develop on the democratic side this week and i also think trump wants as many eyes as possible on the convention. so i think that's where he's going to make the announcement. >> this all -- there is an implication that the former president will be looking at all of these factors versus how it seems many times he decides which is the spur of the moment and not taking a lot of these details into consideration. the whole rubio issue is, you know, they're both from florida. if it were, i don't know what the structure is, but if he announces it, you know, next week, that it is rubio, would that mean that rubio would have to, you know, announce he's moving immediately? he's the senator for the state of florida. >> look, the constitution says the electoral college cannot pick two people from the same state to be president, vice president. so perhaps rubio could stay in
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the senate until late in the year and then if they win, of course, change his residency at that point. the optics aren't great, but it will be, you know, after the fact and in the meantime trump would gain these potential benefits with hispanic voters, constituency the republicans have been trying to garner support from. and also some of these nikki haley voters that still aren't sold on donald trump. >> nikki haley did release her delegates, said they should go with trump. she's not apparently going to be going to the convention. what is that all about? >> i think that nikki haley is trying to have it both ways. she was pretty aggressive. >> was she invited? >> she may not have been invited. i don't think and the former president have had very much communication. she wants to be loyal to the party but doesn't want to embarrass herself and give trump the big bear hug. >> and meanwhile, the vice president, vice president harris, who trump insulted last night over and over again, spoke at a campaign event.
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listen to part of what she had to say. >> i will not repeat his words because they should never be repeated. but i will say that someone who vilifies immigrants, who promotes xenophobia, someone who stokes hate should never again have the chance to stand behind a microphone and the seal of the president of the united states! >> how do you read that, carlos? >> this is why a lot of democrats think that even though vice president harris' polling numbers aren't good today, that she could actually be a stronger candidate against donald trump. why? because donald trump can't help himself. he sometimes attacks people too aggressively. >> sometimes? >> well, a lot of the time. and when you do that against a woman in particular, a lot of voters tend to have a very
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strong reaction to that. so, a lot of people think that matchup harris versus trump would be -- would at least give democrats a chance to win where as a lot of democrats think they're saying publicly and into the microphone that they don't think president biden can win this. >> the vice president very focused here and really kind of targeting something very specific which i think is -- makes a difference. >> she's finally in a position to be a protagonist and to be fair to her, the biden white house has not really given her very many opportunities to do that. now with this vacuum of leadership, she is having an opportunity to shine. >> carlos curbelo, thank you very much. a pleasure to see you. moments ago, opening arguments began in the alec baldwin trial, who is taking the stand three years after the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the "rust" film set. president biden set to meet with top leaders from nato as part of this week's summit. and he's out with a new warning for members of the alliance.
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ago. joining us now, dana griffin. good morning. what is unfolding in court right now? >> good morning to you. well, the state just wrapped its opening statements and i want to read through some of the key points that they made during their opening statements. so, they said they started strongly with this statement that someone playing make believe with a real gun violated the cardinal rule of gun safety. which is to treat every firearm like it is loaded, never point it at a person unless you plan to shoot and to never pull the trigger. so, the prosecutor says we're going to hear testimony from witnesses who were in that church on october in that -- in october 2021, the day of the fatal shooting, who will testify that alec baldwin had his finger on or near the trigger. the defense just got to the podium and is presenting their opening statements. so we will be listening in to figure up what they are going to say. and this case really will center around whether the jury believes alec baldwin did in fact pull
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the trigger or not. that is the one thing that both sides are not in agreement on. he said he never pulled the trigger. during the opening statements, they mention hannah gutierrez reed and she said it was alec baldwin's job to check the weapon, do a safety check of that weapon, when it was handed to him, something that did not happen that day. jose? >> dana griffin, thank you very much. keep us up to speed on this, if you would. coming up, why an angry group of creditors right now are talking to a judge about rudy giuliani's finances. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. you're watching "jose diaz-balart reports" on msnbc. ♪♪ fastsigns. make your statement. (aaron) i own a lot of businesses... so my tech and my network need to keep up. ♪♪ thank you, verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (aaron) so whatever's next...
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book your getaway now at cachecreek.com. 42 past the hour. right now in new york, former new york mayor rudy giuliani is in court for a bankruptcy hearing, he's up against a group of creditors upset they have not been paid. joining us now, msnbc legal correspondent lisa rubin. good morning. what exactly is this all about? >> well, as you know, jose, rudy giuliani in the wake of a liability verdict against him in the amount of $148 million last december owed to two georgia election workers declared bankruptcy here in the southern district of new york. today's hearing is about who gets to control that bankruptcy and what kind of information his creditors are entitled to. they have accused him of delay, of bad faith, of hiding assets
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and information and they have different proposed solutions to it. one group of creditors wants the case to be dismissed outright. and that would allow them to enforce their judgment. another wants a trustee to be appointed to oversee the process and this morning in a surprise filing right before the hearing began, rudy giuliani said that he would also support dismissing his bankruptcy case. why and what the consequences of that would be, we still don't know. >> lisa rubin, thank you very much. appreciate it. >> thank you. as world leaders gather in d.c. for the nato summit, donald trump is once again attacking the alliance. what a second presidency from trump could mean for nato. plus, what is it like to be in space two weeks longer than originally planned? all the questions come to mind, like, you know, all of it. two astronauts just spoke about that moments ago. we'll hear about that next. l het n over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles
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46 past the hour. this morning, growing calls for president biden to step aside, actor george clooney who co-hosted a campaign fund-raiser for president biden just last month raising record numbers of money for his re-election campaign is out now with a "new york times" op-ed title "i love joe biden, but we need a new nominee." he writes, it is devastating to say it, but the joe biden i was
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with three weeks ago the at fund-raiser was not the big effing deal biden of 2010, he wasn't even the joe biden of 2020, he was the same man we all witnessed at the debate. clooney says he's a life long democrat and helped president biden raise more than $30 million at that fund-raiser in june. next hour, the president is going to meet and greet the leaders of the nato alliance as the group marks its 75th anniversary. tomorrow, all eyes will be on the president as he takes part in a rare solo press conference. here's what president said yesterday about nato's current efforts to counter aggression against ukraine continues. and putin wants nothing less, nothing less than ukraine's total subjugation, to wipe ukraine off the map. we know putin won't stop at
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ukraine. make no mistake, ukraine can and will stop putin. >> joining us now is richard stengle, a former undersecretary of state and an msnbc analyst. what do you think president biden's position is today among fellow nato allies with all that we have been seeing domestically? >> you know, jose, good morning. nice to see you. look, there's a kind of irony. nato is celebrating its 75th anniversary. it's at its height of power and influence, in large part because of joe biden and a guy named vladimir putin. yet at the same time, all of these leaders of nato countries are worried. they are worried about the existential threat of a trump presidency, a man who says that nato is an -- he says nato is
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delinquent as though once a landlord, always a landlord, as though they are paying rent. under biden, nato went from nine countries paying above 2%, which is what it was under trump, to 23 countries paying above the 2% threshold of defense spending. biden has been the most successful in effect leader of nato of anybody in history. >> i mean, i want to play for you something that trump said last night at a campaign rally. once again, went on the attack, threatening to not protect nato members if they don't spend more money, as you talk about the delinquent thing he talks about. listen to what he said last night. >> i said, you have to pay your bills. they said, sir, i'm going to ask you a question, if we don't pay our bills, will you protect us from russia? i said, you mean you are delinquent.
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yes. will you protect us? i said, no, i will not protect you from russia. >> this is last night. >> yeah. i mean, he is a landlord. i think he doesn't understand how nato works. i mentioned this in passing, there are no nato troops. countries do not give soldiers to some nato force. the idea -- it's a voluntary association where countries pay 2% of their gdp in defense spending. that's gone up three times under biden in large part because of the largest cross-border invasion since nato was formed when putin invaded ukraine. but i don't think he actually understands the alliance. he obviously doesn't value it. he treats them like dirt. by the way, that's why they are concerned. >> yeah. i'm wondering, 75th anniversary. we just, in june, commemorated
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the 80th anniversary of d-day and normandy, all the blood, sweat, toil and tears it took to liberate parts of the world that were threatened by a totalitarian, you know, ideology. do we just not learn from history? >> you know, yes, you are right to reference the visit to normandy where the sacrifice of american soldiers -- people think they see wars going on all over the planet. we are living in the most peaceful time in human history. in large part, that's because of this 75-year alliance, called nato. >> always a pleasure to see you. thank you. >> thank you, jose. in the next hour, nasa officials are scheduled to speak about how soon a stranded crew could return to earth after a month in space.
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57 past the hour. moments ago, astronauts from boeing's starliner test flight held a news conference from space. they were expected to return to earth last month but they are still up there. they are not permanently stranded. joining us now, tom costello. great seeing you. what is happening? >> bottom line, they are trying to dissect and understand why they have problems with several thrusters they need to maneuver to go back into reentry, to come back to earth. until engineers figure that out, they are staying on the space station. i asked the commander if his confidence in starliner, the boeing spaceship, isn't shaken and is he concerned about starliner going forward? here is what he said. >> this is the world of test.
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this is a tough business that we're in. human space flight is not easy in any regime. there have been multiple issues with every spacecraft that's been designed. that's the nature of what we do. that mantra, failure is not an option, that's why we are staying here now. >> bottom line, this is a test flight. the maiden voyage. only two astronauts were on. they were supposed to come home a month ago. they are staying on station for weeks because the engineers are trying to understand that thruster problem. we are going to get an update from nasa management in the next hour or so about when they hope to bring the astronauts back down to earth again. >> key, they are okay. there doesn't seem to be -- >> they are fine. >> it amazes me. >> plenty of food, oxygen, water on the station. they have to borrow other people's clothes, but otherwise they are fine. >> who isn't? the whole concept of just a talk
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back with two astronauts in space, it's amazing to me. look at this. hairstyles look certainly cooler in space. it's just amazing to me. isn't it? >> it is. every time i do an interview with them in space, i'm amazed. they are traveling at 17,000 miles per hour, 270 miles above the earth. >> tom, it's a pleasure. thank you. >> you bet. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm jose diaz-balart. thank you for the privilege of your time. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," president biden at a critical nato summit this hour, hoping his defiant stance puts out the rebellion in his own party. getting a look warm vote of confidence from nancy pelosi today on "morning joe." >> does he have your support to be the head of the democratic ticket?
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