it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, president biden on the move as many fellow democrats remain on the fence, at least publicly, at his fitness to serve. is he in fighting form or in denial? we're on the road with him in michigan. plus the defenders versus the doubters, what democrats are saying after the president's

high-stakes press conference. will they fall in line or are more defections coming? for donald trump is the supreme court ruling the gift that keeps on giving. how he's trying to use it to throw out his hush money conviction. and at&t's massive security breach. the stolen data and the company warning that nearly all of its customers were affected. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we start in battleground michigan, where the president is expected to touch down in the next hour. gabe gutierrez is live from detroit. what can you tell us from there? >> reporter: hi, chris. good afternoon. the president is expected here in just a few hours to hold that campaign rally almost a day since that press conference yesterday. his campaign says that it is feeling good at this point. he did what he needed to do at that press conference yesterday. they are eager to move on. we are speaking with voters here

and has scheduled interviews for next week, including with our colleague lester holt. this is part of the plan to get them out there and to show he can do the job. we have been speaking with voters in battleground michigan. president biden has his supporters and we're certain to see some of them here in a few hours when the rally gets underway. we have also spoken with some who are skeptical of him continuing his candidacy. we spoke with one woman, debra langston. she's a retired judge, big supporter of president biden. a lifelong democrat, but she says it's i'm for him to leave the race. take a listen. >> i love that man. he's done more for black people than any president i know. but i think cognitively, his time has come. i almost feel like a traitor, but it's nothing personal, but this country cannot let trump win. >> reporter: debra says she

would vote for vice president harris, if president biden were to leave the race, but this is emblematic of the struggle that the president will have to deal with in places like michigan. such a crucial state for his reelection, where he's already having trouble with certain voters in the state because of the israel-hmas war. now there are some concerns among some of the voter here's he may not be up to the job and they would like to see another candidate perhaps. >> gabe gutierrez, thank you. as the president gears up for that michigan rally, the head count continues on capitol hill, where julie is standing by. i understand you have some new reporting. >> reporter: we do. just in the last couple minutes, the statement has not even gone out widely yet, but our team learned there's a 19th democrat from congress, 18th house democrat, 19th overall, that is mike levin of california that has come out in the last couple moments to call on the president

to exit the race. he says, like many of you, i was naturally concerned about biden's performance in the recent debate. he said he made his opinions known in the appropriate manner with leadership, with his colleagues. jeffrey, the democratic leader relayed some of those concerns to the president in their meeting last night. levin continues to say he has deep respect for the president's decades of public service, but he believes the time has come from president biden to pass the torch. he says it's time to move forward with a new leader together. this is somebody who is a frontline democrat. he's part of the mission of democrats in trying to retake the house to try to flip those seats in california, flipping those seats in new york to try to flip control of the house. this is really crucial the. and obviously, it comes as we have seen an avalanche of democrats expressing their concerns. 19 toment colt out publicly and say biden should step out of the race. there's a lot in the gray area who have been watching the president closely in all of his

performances, privately concerned, publicly saying he could still change his mind. opening that door a little bit, including members of leadership, including nancy pelosi, who do have a caucus, including one that the president has spoken to in recent days that has stood behind the president. that's the congressional black caucus. the membership there, the leader there, they have been very defensive of biden. but in our new reporting today from my colleagues, there are some cracks there. they want to see the president more defiant. i want to see him more aggressive. like many colleagueses, they share the mind that they do need to see a clear path to victory for the president that they have not been able to map out yet. so a lot of moving parts here. and certainly, very note thabl as the nato summit concluded, after that press conference yesterday, we are now up to five democrats since then that have called on president biden to exit the race. especially as he is holding calls with members of this hispanic caucus and members of the american caucus, other

caught duss that we're reporting to try to assuage some of those concerns. >> thank you. now to donald trump fighting to get the guilty verdict in the hush money trial thrown out based on the supreme court's presidential immunity ruling. garrett haake is following that story for us. garrett, 12 new yorkers spent 6 weeks in court to reach that verdict. what now? >> it's already at least a partial victory for donald trump just by the fact that the immunity ruling has caused a delay in his sentencing, which was supposed to occur this week. now we'll see briefs from both the prosecution and donald trump's lawyers before the judge makes a decision about sentencing or perhaps as the trump lawyers request a new trial some time in september. i think we're all pretty familiar with that ruling right now. obviously, the conduct for which donald trump was convicted in this case had nothing to do with his official responsibilities as president. in fact, it all occurred before hefsz elected, but some of the

evidence used by prosecutors, the trump defense team argues, the involved private communications that he engaged in as president, as part of his job as president, that perhaps should have been excluded. they are hoping that perhaps is drawing enough to force a new trial in the overturning of that verdict. early on in the case, the judge was skeptical of immunity claims around trump at all. obviously, that's before the supreme court weighed in. he thought his time in the spotlight was largely behind him, this is a lot of pressure on him as he and the district court judge the start trying to be the first people to interpret what the supreme court's theoretical ruling means in practice for these cases against donald trump. >> garrett haake, thank you. breaking news from at&t. the company now says data from nearly all of its wireless customers was exposed in a massive data breach back in 2022. nbc news business correspondent brian chunk is following this for us. how did this happen? what happens now?

>> the short anxious is we don't know why this happened, but at&t says there was bad actors, at least one of which was already apprehended by law enforcement in terms of what they are describing as an illegal download of information. this would affect 109 million at&t users who were connect canned to at&t between may and october of 2022. i want to emphasize that this covers calls and text messages during that period of time, but the content of those calls and the content of those text messages were not included according to at&t. instead what they got was phone numbers. so if i text you or you text me, they saw those text message numbers used, but not the content of the messages themselves. but nonetheless, this is a very big deal. be aware of any sort of weird text messages or phone calls that they might be receiving that are asking for additional personal identifiable information and for what it's worth, at&t says they don't have reason to believe that information breached is made public, but they are working

with both the department of justice and also the fbi to see how many others may have been involved. this is not a good year for a t and t when you consider two of theage this is year. a huge one in february. this is not even the first one they have disclosed this year. there was one in march that was breached in 2019. >> so there's no need or offer to do something to help folks out. sometimes there's a data breach. for sixes months you're going to have free program that will watch to make sure that you don't get anything. is this a different situation? >> at this moment, they are still trying to figure out what's going on here and trying to notify users. there could be some sort of communication for at&t users in terms of next steps, but this is different than the outage in february where there were millions of users impacted by not being able to use their phones. they were given a $5 credit in that case. i don't know if a credit is for your information. this is not even the first issue

we have seen. but important to emphasize it seems like they are working with law enforcement. the doj and fbi to figure out who may have been involved, who was doing this and why they were trying to do it. >> brian, thank you. coming up in 90 seconds, joe biden refusing to back down and saying only hard data could sway his determination to stay in the race. d sway his determination to stay in the race that grimy film on your teeth? dr. g? ♪♪ it's actually the buildup of plaque bacteria which can cause cavities. most toothpastes quit working in minutes. but crest pro-health's antibacterial fluoride protects all day. so it stops cavities before they start... crest. ah, these bills are crazy. she has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000

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did good enough. that's what one major democratic donor who thinks president biden should exit the race told my colleagues after his news conference. another veteran democratic operative told politico he left us in purgatory. and a republican strategist told "the new york times" democrats are, quote, stuck in the mud. but president biden is determined, clear that he's not stepping down for anyone, not even his vp. >> if your team came back and showed you data that she would fair better against former president trump, would you reconsider your decision to stay in the race? >> no, unless they came back and said there's no way you can win. me. no one is saying that. no poll says that. >> joining us now, biden/harris 2024 spokesperson, thank you for coming on the program. what is the specific path to victory that the campaign sees that the president sees?

because the the polls show the american people don't see it. >> thank you so much forhaving me. the path for vikt visit the same we have been following the entire time. it's first and foremost through the blue wall. michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, we are polling neck and neck with donald trump. and also through the sun belt states. those are the states that we're focused on. that's where we have an infrastructure. i think i came on your show about a month ago and talked about some of the infrastructure we have laid in the states. we have over 200 field offices. we have over 500 staff in these states. the bottom line is we have been building the infrastructure early on far before donald trump built any anyone ir tra stur, which basically he doesn't have any. we are going through challenging times when the polls tight. we have the infrastructure and the structure in place on this campaign to move us forward, to get us through the tough times and to make sure that we have

the ability to communicate voters directly where they are. >> at least the national polls are dead even, at least some of the most recent ones. so they can't get any tighter than dead even. congressman himes was the first member of congress to call for joe biden to step away from the the race after the solo press conference saying not only does he believe biden can't win, but he says he thinks if biden stays in the race, they will lose the house and senate. here's what he said. >> i have done a lot of political campaigns. the one attribute of almost every single losing campaign, and i have seen hundreds of them, is that right up until the moment that the numbers are in and you lost, you believe that you will win. >> then when nbc talked to members in tough races, only one said clearly they want joe biden to campaign for them. are your internal the polls showing something different than a lot of these folks think?

>> yeah, our internal the polls are showing that this race is very tight. after the debate, which president biden made it very clear was certainly far from being his best night, we saw some independents move toward us. we're seeing this race largely unchanged over the last two weeks. a number of polls have come out, ten so far, that shows this race within the margin of error. so it's been largely unchanged. but a couple things. i want to take a step back and make it very clear. president biden respects the thoughts and opinions of members of congress. he understands where they are coming from. he understands where their anxiety is. their anxiety is the same anxiety that we have, which is we cannot let donald trump set one foot back in the white house. there's too much at stake. project 2025, that agenda that has trump's fingerprints all over it, it make it is very clear that he would do things like department of education, essentially gut government so that government cannot function

the way it has for the american people. even stifled women's reproductive rights further if he became president. so we're all united in making sure that donald trump does not set foot back in the white house. and you might remember also from the press conference last night one of the final things that president biden said is he basically said members need to run against me, that's fine. as somebody who worked at the campaign committee about 20 years ago, i understand when members in tough districts have to run against washington leadership. we get that. president biden certainly gets that. but he also understands that he's the best president to take on donald trump. he's the best candidate. he beat him in 2020. he's going to beat him in 2024. we always knew this was going to be a close race. we are living in a very divided country. it was close in 2016. unfortunately, hillary clinton lost. it was close in 2020. fortunately, president biden won. we believe he's going to win

again in 2024. >> polls are one measure. everybody is watching them closely, both the public ones and internal polls that you guys have. the other is money. the president said last night we're doing well fundraising, that's his quote. now "the new york times" is reporting, we don't have this independently, but the times reports that major democratic donors have told the largest pro biden superpac that $90 million in pledge da nations is on hold if president biden stays at the top of the ticket. can the campaign take that kind of hit when the polls show a dead locked race and this is going to go very, very, very tough from now until november. >> first of all, we have had a very strong fundraising cycle so far. we outraised donald trump in june. we have over $240 million cash on hand is what we last announced.

so we have the infrastructure. we laid the infrastructure in the battleground states. >> but $90 million, that's a huge hit. first, can you confirm that for us or deny it? >> that's coming from the superpac side, so we are not affiliated. we can't comment on that. i don't have firsthand knowledge there. i can tell you there are a lot of donor who is have been quoted in the press in the last few days who are saying i'm sticking with the president. i'm giving money. we have seen grass roots donations come in relatively strong over the past few weeks. by the way, we also had our best fundraising hour after the debate a couple weeks ago. so the bottom line is we'll have the resources we need to win this campaign. we have the infrastructure -- i keep saying intrastructure, but it's important to emphasize that the groundwork, the infrastructure in the states, you have to do that now in order to have a strong footing going into october. donald trump is not doing that. he's made it very clear that they are doing it differently.

that's not going to work. we laid that infrastructure. we have the team in place. i'm sitting here in wilmington, delaware, with hundreds of other employees on the campaign. we have a lot of folks who are fighting every single day for president biden. we know that we are doing what we need to do. we are confident that we will continue to be able to do what we need to do in order to win this campaign. >> speaking of campaign staff, the president talked about you guys last night. let me play that. >> i just have to pace myself a little more. pace myself. the next debate i'm not going to be traveling 15 time zones a week before. that's what it was about. and by the way, even with that, i love my staff. but they add things all the time. they add things at the end. i'm catching hell from my wife. >> there are a few write ups i saw that joe biden is through his campaign staff under the bus, but are you guys making

adjustments given what happened at the last debate, given that you have 60 days until the next debate, and assuming he is still in the race, it's going to be incredibly consequential. >> first of all, i'm laughing because i was sitting in a war room with probably about 40 other staff last night. we all laughed when he said that because we have packed his schedule because he's the president of the united states and he's running for reelection. so he's exactly right though. i worked for a number of candidates, hillary clinton in 2016, we had to sort of cut it down too because we were running her ragged. time is so important when you're a candidate. he's exactly right. we thought it was kind of funny. but at the end of the day, we have the organization, we have the surrogates. we have to run like the avengers. we have so many surrogates on the campaign trail.

octavia spencer, has been a long-time democratic supporter, she's in detroit. we have a number of labor leaders there. we have members of congress. just folks on the campaign trail, a lot of people in detroit with the president today. it's important we also use the other voices of the party to lift up his record, talk about his accomplishments, use his record to demonstrate what he will do in a second term. that's what we're going to keep doing. he needs to get his rest. we're going to go out there and win this thing. >> adrian, thank you for taking the time. appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come, dramatic moments in a new mexico courtroom as alec baldwin's defense makes a new push to throw out his case. a new push t throw out his case sses... so my tech and my network need to keep up. thank you, verizon business. (kevin) now our businesses get fast and reliable internet from the same network that powers our phones. (aaron) so whatever's next... we're cooking with fire. (vo) switch to the partner businesses rely on.

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an explosive turn of events at the alec baldwin shooting trial with his lawyers making a a surprise motion to dismiss the case mid-trial. baldwin's team is accusing prosecutors of failing to turn over key evidence to the defense. the dice dis put centers around a batch of bullets brought out in court today turned over after the arm error's trial. all of this to send the jury home for the weekend. dana griffin is following this for us. also with me is former attorney, professor at university of alabama law school and msnbc legal analyst joyce vance.

dana, walk us through what happened in court. >> so before the jury was even brought in this morning, the baldwin defense team said they want the case dismace misted because they accused the state of withholding evidence and this stems from something we heard yesterday in court. there's a crime scene technician that's been on the stand for two days, the defense started asking her about a round of bullets turned into her after the trial from a guy named a former police officer and a friend of hannah's father in hollywood. he claims he's bullets are connected to the death of haley na hutchens. so the crime scene tech says i processed the rounds. the state decided since they have different color primers than the ones that were found onset that there was no evidentiary value. the defense argues that that was not your decision. you still should have disclosed them.

this has major implications. the state says this is a wild goose chase, but listen to the exchange between the defense and why they are arguing their case. listen. >> if this evidence wasn't as important as we say it is, they would have turned it over. the fact they concealed it and put it under a separate document number didn't disclose the supplemental report or bring them to the evidentiary viewing. if it was that irrelevant, it had no value, it would have been there. >> and if these bullets -- >> i asked the prosecutor not to be touching to with her bare hands. >> they rolled around for three years. >> the prosecutor says that these bullets were not a match to the ones found onset. she also questioned if these rounds were so significant, why did they turn up after the trial. so those are all questions that the judge is trying to get answers to. she sent the jury home for the

day. she is now bringing in the supplier of those alleged rounds. she got the rounds from them and she's also going to hear from hannah's defense attorney. so it's an explosive moment. she will be deciding whether or not to dismiss this case. >> that's wild. i'll let you interpret it for all of us, but if it turns out that evidence was withheld, that's very bad. that's my high level legal interpretation of that. >> that's a great legal interpretation because there's a rule of law called brady that says that if prosecutors withhold evidence, the impacts of guilt or not from the defense, a case can be dismissed. that rule is called brady. that's a u.s. supreme court case. it plies in state court just like in federal court. so the question that the judge

has to decide here is was this evidence, were these bullets potentially exculpatory, something that baldwin's team could have used at trial to convince the jury that there was reasonable doubt about his guilt. and if so, why did the prosecution withhold them? you heard the defense argument. that's what defense lawyers often argue. if this evidence wasn't so significant, the prosecution would have turned it over to us. the prosecution says, look judge, this evidence wasn't relevant because there were different markings on these bullets. it's not the same the caliber or type of ammunition that was part of the death of the woman killed onset. now the judge has to resolve all of that and decide whether the prosecution should be penalized for withholding the evidence. >> so if evidence was withheld and there's a lot of questions, as you point out, that the judge has to answer before we get to

that point. is it possible the case could be dismissed? is that one option that might be on the table? >> it is. dismissal is absolutely a possible sanction. it's clear the evidence was withheld or concealed from the defense. the question will be whether or not it had the potential to be something that baldwin's team could have used when they argued to the jury. it's important to note that that's a decision that prosecutors don't get to make. it's usually a decision that's made in hindsight by an appellate court a couple years down the road after there's been a conviction. so good prosecutors tend to turn over everything that could arguably be exculpatory to defendants to try to avoid precisely this kind of scenario. >> joyce vance, dana griffin, thank you. still to come, conflicting split screen diplomacy. biden reassuring u.s. support for nato while trump meets with a top putin ally. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc.

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a diplomatic split screen is playing out right now with two presidential candidates. donald trump welcoming hungary's prime minister to mar-a-lago for what they both describe as a discussion about peace. and joe biden looking to quiet the critics and allay concerns at his first news conference in eight months discussing at length and in depth issues from

russia to israel to china's influence. joining us now is steve israel, former congressman from new york and director of cornell university's institute of politics and global affairs. rick is an msnbc political analyst. rick, arguably, the strongest part of biden's press conference was foreign policy. he did talk in depth. he did talk at length. do the flubs involving zelenskyy's name, harris' name, overshadow the substance of what was there? i wonder what the folks you're talking about in the international community are taking away from the press conference last night. >> i don't think it overshadowed it at all. he showed a mastery of complex international topics, something donald trump could not have done in any lifetime. and yes, he made a few verbal

flubs, but he's been make those his entire political career. so i think he certainly quelled any questions people had about whether he has the intellectual capital to deal with these difficult and complex foreign policy issues. he obviously does, and from the testimony of other nato leaders who said he was focused and smart and forward looking in the meetings, i think that was a pretty good job. >> congressman, joe biden is trying to convince not only the american public but frankly the entire world he's capable of doing the job. all you have to do is look at some of the foreign newspapers, their coverage of it. they want to know. is he capable not just of doing the job now, but four years from now. here's what he said about his conversations with nato leaders.

>> i'm not handing my european allies say, joe, don't run. what i hear them say is, you've got to win. you can't let this guy come forward. it would be a disaster. it would be a disaster. >> david sanger of "the new york times" asked can you be in a room with xi or putin years from now and handle them one-on-one? is that the key question that people want answers to right now? >> it's a really good question. i i just did a speaking tour in germany on behalf of the u.s. embassy. everywhere i went, there was a culpable fascination with american politics, but also very strong expressions about the criticalness of joe biden winning reelection and stopping donald trump. they are nervous. why are they nervous? you saw it on that split screen.

you have one president, who said that he will be a former president who said he will be a dictator from day one, and president biden, who understands what's at stake in the fight for democracy. you have one former president who has tried to dismantle nato and hand the crumbs to vladimir putin. you have another president who rescued nato, put it together. so those contrasts are very important, not only to the united states, but to our nato allies. finally, it's a reminder that for all the drama over the performtive nature of this campaign, there still remains the essential question, which is who should be president. what values do you want in a president? who do you want in a room with our adversaries and our allies, donald trump, who kowtows to our advers adversaries, or joe biden, who has collectively resumed and revitalized our alliances around

the world. >> i think the other part of that are the pictures between donald trump and the prime minister, an autocrat in hungary. they are talking about peace plan .0. when members of the international community see those pitures, what do they see? >> they see the league of shadows. no, trump can meet with whoever he wants at mar-a-lago. he can meet with the devil himself, and he probably would. he's allowed to do that. but the thing that's dangerous about this is that they see the maga republicans see victor orban as a model the for trump. they see him as a guy that won, lost, ran again and he started to unravel the protections of democracy and that's what they see him doing. as you know, democracies don't end at the end of a barrel of a

gun. they end in three democratic elections where we elect autocrats who then unravel the checks and balances that keep our democracy. that's exactly what conservatives see in trump and victor orban. they are helped by the recent supreme court decision in a way that they could never have expected. it's super dangerous that model in america and would lead to the unraveling of our democracy. >> congressman, none of the people who have called for joe biden to step aside want to see donald trump be elected president. the reason they say that they think he needs to step aside is because they are worried he can't win. within minutes of the press conference ending, jim himes called for booid ton trump out. he asked biden to once again put his nation first. do you think this is more about whether biden can win or whether he is someone with the mental acuity who can be trusted with

the nuclear codes? what do you think is happening with those kinds of conversations? >> i think the conversations are all about whether joe biden can beat donald trump. i personally believe he can beat donald trump. i'm not in congress anymore. the people who are there are concerned about the polling right now in those three or four battleground states and one congressional district in nebraska that counts towards the electoral college. the polling is not what it should be for down ballot races. so if you're a member of the house and know the majority is just there on the horizon and if you know the minority is on the horizon, you want to make sure that the top of the ticket can win. i'll say one other thing on this. for all the drama, you watched everything joe biden does as if we're watching an olympic gymnastics competition whether they will stick the landing. for all of that, there's a fundamental issue of campaign science. it's this.

donald trump has consolidated his vote. he's reached his ceiling. he can't go much further. joe biden has not consolidated his vote. he has room to grow. for as long as we talk about who is going to be at the top of our ticket, we cannot consolidate the lack of clarity is the enemy of consolidation. so whether you believe that joe biden should be in or out, we don't have much longer to continue to debate this. we have a vacuum. it needs to be filled so that the democratic candidate can consolidate at the presidential level and the house races and the senate races. >> there's no doubt that the president was in his sweet spot. people know he was a long-time head of the senate foreign relations committee that obviously he served as vice president through some pretty difficult geopolitical times. now as president, obviously, with what's happening with russia, what is happening in israel the, and obviously, the meeting with orban is adding fuel to the concerns that

there's basically orban is the proxy between trump and putin. but do you think this is something that resinates in terms of the campaign when people the are talking about who they are going to vote for or why they would either want joe biden to stay in place or step dune, but how much are the world situation playing into that? >> it's a good question. and one of the things i have been amazed by over the last few weeks is the amount of certainty that people have about who would have a better chance at beating donald trump. and who can't beat donald trump. i wish i had that certainty about things. people are certainly talking about it. one of the things that the press conference did was it certainly should allay any fears that voters have about whether joe biden caught conduct himself on the world stage and has the

capacity to do that. he showed that he does. but as steve knows, a man who ran for office many times, national polls show that concern about foreign policy is very, very low in voters' minds. but what they saw is someone who has a grasp of a very complex situation. biden said in his interview with george, that was a pretty vague cognitive test that he passed last night. >> thank you both. have a good weekend. thank you. and coming up, it could feel like 105 degrees today in houston and nearly a million people are struggling. another day they are without power. that means no air-conditioning. you're watching "chris jansing reports," only on msnbc. re watcg reports," only on msnbc.

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vermont after the remnants of hurricane beryl unleashed flash flooding, tornadoes and serious damage. the storm soaking the area with more than 7 inches of rainfall. battering roads and bridges. this storm comes as many in vermont are still recovering from catastrophic floods that wrecked the area exactly one year ago. governor phil scott at a news conference yesterday saying, i can't assure people this won't happen year after year. climate change is real.

>> and then there's texas, where nearly a million people are dealing with a fifth day of no power after hurricane beryl devastated that state. according to a lot of people, this is just dangerous heat. meteorologists forecasting a heat index of 105 degrees in some parts of the state. joining me now, priscilla thompson in houston. bill karins, nbc news meteorologist. okay, priscilla, how are recovery efforts going, and is there any information on when people are going to get their air back? >> reporter: yeah, chris. that is the big question that everybody is trying to figure out, when they're going to have power again. we have been at this distribution site where they have been distributing thousands of meal and water and things like that to folks. i'll step out of the way. you have a long line curving around this parking lot of folks trying to get the resources. all of the people i have talked to said they still do not have

power. i have encountered one or two people who said they have gotten it back. nearly a million people across the state of texas, here in the houston area, about 850,000 centerpoint energy customers who are still without power and the weather right now is not helping. there was just a ton of rain that came down as we were driving around talking to some folks. it is starting to clear up a little bit. this is not the kind of weather that linemen can get out and do the work they need to do in. there is real concern now. center point says they hope to restore another 400,000 people by the end of the day and they hope by the end of the weekend 80% of customers will be restored. what i'm hearing from folks here is frustration. they're angry, they're like what is happening, why is this happening, why is it taking so long to restore it. people are having to deal with throwing away food, hundreds of dollars worth of food spoiling in their refrigerators and we

know the heat can be deadly. it's trying to go to cooling centers or people staying in their cars, doing whatever they can to stay cool, as we're dealing with rain and the triple-digit heat and temperatures that are still festering in and around the houston area right now. >> unbelievable. thank you for that. so bill, what is the status of this? when are they going to see a little relief, and what's the east coast going to get in days to come? >> this heat wave is going to spread back to the east coast. first, let's focus on houston. i was about to say that's great, they had rain. it's cooler, only feels like 74. but as priscilla mentioned, when a thunderstorm comes crew, the line crews have to stop. so that's a different perspective on that. here's the houston area, you can see the hundreds of lightning strikes. that's going to exit so the line crews will get back to work and temperatures are at least briefly cooler. if someone doesn't have air conditioning, earlier, it felt like 102. now it's more bearable.

so 42 million people still under warnings and advisories for the heat. and out west, we're going to shatter more records today. denver, you're 98 right now. you have a chance of getting up to 101. other records today, salt lake, could be 105. these are locations i don't typically mention numbers like this. vegas once again near 115. just doing it over and over again. and as we were talking about, this is now going to slide and move. as we go towards tomorrow's forecast and then -- i lost all my data. as we go toward the end of the weekend, that's when we're going to see temperatures, d.c. could be 101 by tuesday. new york is going to be 95 to 96. we'll be 100 in nashville all weekend long. the heat is really going to spread across the country. as far as the rain goes we have flash flooding happening now on the east coast. all of these maroon boxes especially from norfolk to virginia beach northward here, this area is all under flash flood warnings and this heavy rain is going to head northwards as we go through the weekend.

philly and new york city, especially late tonight and tomorrow, chris, torrential downpours are likely. >> bill karins, priscilla thompson, thank you both. that's going to do it for us this hour. make sure to join us for chris jansing reports every weekday, 1:00 to 3:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. our coverage continues with katy tur reports next. has no idea she's sitting on a goldmine. well she doesn't know that if she owns a life insurance policy of $100,000 or more she can sell all or part of it to coventry for cash. even a term policy. even a term policy? even a term policy! find out if you're sitting on a goldmine. call coventry direct today at the number on your screen, or visit coventrydirect.com.

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