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has become clear that the party platform takes a lot of inspiration from what we are calling donald trump's donald trump 2025 trump is still

trying to distance himself from the heritage foundation's ultraconservative, maybe a little radical agenda for a second trump term, but dozens of officialsamlook at the screen. including some integral in crafting the rnc. here's president biden in detroit. >> project 2025 is the trump people, his top policy people, his campaign press secretary, his personal bagman in the white house, the biggest unders and more, it was a project built for trump, folks, project 2025 is the biggest attack on our system government and personal freedom that has ever been proposed in the history of this country. joining us is mark elias, partner out the elias law group and president of media matters, angela caruso and his with us. okay. can i just say, angelo, you

have-- media matters has exposed a lot of people actually posting what they have said over the years, and in your newsletter this week, there was a large section that was dedicated to project 2025. can you just talk about these claims that like the trump people don't known nothing about project 2025, you have chris, one of the senior advisers to the campaign, he is like this is not our platform, this is not us, but we saw-- put the man back on the screen, we see the names. put the names on the screen, like -- please, do not gaslight us. >> there are too many names, they can't fit them all on the screen, simone. there you go. >> angela, please. >> i will start by saying everything they say is true it wouldn't matter anyway. here's why, because one of the things that project 2025 is

doing, and this is the one thing that all of the trump staffers are saying, they will invoke schedule f, fire thousands of employees and they need to replace, the only place, that has the repository in the database, they are already compiling personnel to replace them with. so, project 2025 already has that one, so even if trump doesn't know anything about it, it would make no difference, because project 2025 will stop the trumpet ministration. but beyond that, you have kevin roberts just this week after trump's initial disavowal, going on right wing podcast and saying we understand the political tactic and maneuvering that trump has needed to do here. we are concerned, don't categorize them that they are doing this for politics. just two days ago, kevin roberts was on another radio show. he was talking about the fact that the trump campaign and the project 2025 staff have been working arm in arm for the past year they developed these policies. >> angela, my friends said you don't have to recap, let's play it for the audience so they can

hear it from the horse's mouth. it is you two guys. >> because our country is going to . a job with institutions such as heritage to lay the groundwork and heritage does such an and cripple job at that. this is a great group. and they are going to lay the groundwork and detail plans for exactly what our movement will doing what your movement will do and what the american people give us a colossal mandate to save america and that is a coming. that is coming. >> trump teased it. trump teased it. >> misinformation that has been out there and it is really everywhere these days. >> our respective staffs have been in conversation throughout the campaign on the matters of policy, i suspect very soon the president and his staff and i will sit down and talk through all of this.

i am really gratified by president trump's most recent statement in which he called out the mischaracterization of the left. >> angela i hand it back to you, but there it is, you didn't have to sum it up yourself. >> i mean, they have it. that came after the initial disavowal. so they are includes here. that is because they know that when he time people find out about project 2025 they don't like it, regardless of politics, there's a lot of people that trump was like, getting rid of 30 year mortgages ? every time someone learn something new about project 2025 , of course they don't want to embrace it, they will run, but it is-- the associations are there, this is what the future looks like right now. >> so, mark before they come to you, i just want to look into the camera and say to mr. trump, it is not hersshig, it is heritage. it is not hersshig it as

heritage. you should know the name of your platform. so, this document is the foundational document of upending of our government. go it's institutions, it lays bare as was just noted, as angelo just noted, federal employees and moving them out. how now, do democrats level off, and i have to admit it has been impressive to see president biden sort of lean more into that conversation, i would offer those democrats that want to get biden out, maybe start talking about project 2025 and focus on that. but what is your assessment of how this is playing with the american people right now? >> i think we need to break project 2025 into two pieces and angela got this exactly right. there are the policy pieces, e which are ridiculously unpopular , which, frankly, donald trump, who is not much of a reader,

probably isn't even familiar with everything in the document. i will give him props that he probably didn't read 920 pages, he might not have read nine pages -- >> there were into enough all caps for him, you really have to do all caps and underline bold to get his attention. >> right. but then there are the process parts, which are the blueprints for authoritarianism. this is the firing of civil service to replace them with his political cronies. this is the taking control of every independent agency of the federal government, so they are not, in fact, independent, but rather are under the thumb of donald trump. this is the use of the department of justice and the irs and dhs and every permitting agency, by donald trump, personally to exact revenge against his enemies and to reward his benefactors and himself, personally. so, i didn't really distinguish

those two things that i realized that the second is, as angelo said, where the action is and what is dangerous. and i think the more the american people here that the policies are outrageously unpopular, but also that, what donald trump is doing is setting up to be dictator, not for a day, not for a week, but for the indefinite future, i think people will realize just how dangerous the stakes are. >> and can i just say, mark, is he not emboldened? is he not emboldened by what the supreme court recently ruled in the last term saying he has absolute immunity but also chevron doctrine, doing away with that, taking this power away from the agencies to make that decision. the supreme court has made this prepend a lot more tangible. >> absolutely, and i wrote a piece about this, for democracy, about exactly this. so, let's just review the

bidding. the supreme court went out of its way to overturn the colorado supreme court's decision to keep him off the ballot. remember? that was when they expedited, because they needed to get it done in time for donald trump's calendar. then what happened? the supreme court took away a valuable tool that the department of justice used to prosecute january 6th insurrection is and gave a rhetorical .2 donald trump that his supporters, who were prosecuted, were somehow wronged by the criminal justice system. then we saw the local taste to overturn chevron. for people in the audience, pe what they need to know is this is an assault on agency expertise and saying we don't want agency experts deciding, we want to give more free will in power for people like donald trump and the judges he appoints. and finally, of course, the immunity decision.

that's donald trump can do virtually anything he considers to be an official act in officea and not be subject to criminal sanctions. so, if you take those together, here is what you got, everyone. you have got donald trump is more fearless and emboldened because he can't be held accountable. is cronies are emboldened come in because the court has shown it won't hold them accountable. the states are powerless, like t colorado, and finally, the expert independent agencies are being gutted and limited, because the goal here is to create a unitary executive where donald trump can do do anything he wants if you selected, which is why we can't let that happen this november. >> and i would like to focus and get your thoughts on some of the election language that is found in the platform, the boat, you know, we pledge to protect the rights of every t citizen and urge officials to take all appropriate steps to allow voters to cast their ballot.

we strongly oppose litigation against states exercising their sovereign authority to enact such laws, and those laws have to deal with securing photo identification and things like that. what strikes me about that is, so, if a state crimes, in other words, actively denies ballot access to, i don't know, black and brown people, and there is evidence of that this language says, oh, we oppose any litigation to challenge those actions.e how should we be reading? two now am i reading here? or is there a broader approach trying to achieve here? >> that is one of the shot across the bow, part of the plan is to sort of use the specter of immediate mass arrests against local officials in the first 100 days of the new administration to sort of affect their behavior before the election even happens, and e she pinpointed one of the samples, which is, you get

local officials and get inside their head, you know, i may enforce other things. i want to avoid being one of those people. and that is something they have planned and not putting the document but then start to escalate as they got into october. the strategy behind this was to lay the framework and legal argument. and simultaneously go after local officials for a whole range of things they would describe a lot of those things as voter fraud and one of the things they have argued, via the doj is that they would use the department of justice to crackdown on local officials they saw and actually helped boating, maybe have been expanding access to the ballot. >> all right, thank you very much, we really appreciate you.

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a little redundant if you ask me, especially given research that shows that noncitizens illegally registering and testing allison elections is exceptionally rare. and that is not all. the website notes that the republican party platform doubles down on anti-voter moves just like this. liz is back with us. >> you know, this aspect of this campaign, to me, is going to be the most interesting, because in many respects a lot of folks i don't think really fully appreciate how much of their voting rights have been rolled back in some states, a number of states around the country. you have democracy docket, recently debunking a lot of the with respect to noncitizen voters, noting noncitizens are illegally boating and high numbers in federal elections and reports and studies have shown that instances of noncitizen voting in federal elections are extremely rare.

a survey conducted from september to october 2023 reveals that one in 10 eligible u.s. voters can't easily access documents to prove their citizenship, like passports or birth certificates. so, this process is not as it is being laid out, by a lot of folks from the hard right, just saying, you know, you cross the border illegally you show up at a pole and you vote democratic, and that is kind of the narrative, that's a nutshell of the narrative. how are your efforts leveling up this conversation? one, to be bound dumb debunk the myths, but also to inform and educate americans about what is actually being stripped away from them, potentially? >> yeah, i think that is really important that we need to educate people, that, you know, not only is there an existing federal law that prohibits noncitizens from voting, not only is there no evidence that there is noncitizen voting in this country, but that, if,

when you pass these laws, when you make it-- when you add additional paperwork requirements for people to register or for people to vote, you are disenfranchising lawful voters. okay? i ask everyone out there watching. do you have a current passport? you currently have a copy of your birth certificate? because if you don't have one of those two things, how are you supposed to prove that you are a u.s. citizen? right? the other forms of i.d. that republicans claim, you know, until very recently, where necessary don't actually prove citizenship, so, when we talk about citizenship requirements, what we are really talking about our laws aimed at disenfranchising voters and overwhelmingly the voters who are disenfranchised when you oppose these kinds of requirements are very young voters right? first time voters and if they are the ones who have to register the first time, number one, but number two, they are less likely to have passports than older voters, they are

less likely to have with them their birth certificate. a lot of young voters, you know, their birth certificate is in like some book that their parents have at their house. they haven't traveled abroad, they don't need a passport. so, these voters they also disproportion to the affect minority voters, which i would point out is what the republicans are trying to do. it is not a byproduct of it, it is the point. they wants to make it harder to vote and easier to cheat. >> and is it-- also it is a play on older voters too. i'm thinking about like -- what about older-- depending on when you were born, you might not have access to be able to get a copy of your birth certificate, right? i think about the signature requirements. these are all things that are not needed to cast a ballot. i just-- i don't understand it, mark. they want to make it seem like it is about entering election integrity, that is what the platform says.

they will implement measures to secure our elections, including variety, highly sophisticated paper ballots. proof of citizenship, send a voting. i like send a voting, but what is this about? some of the language sounds good, i'm not against send a voting. in my republicans friends agree there. make it make sense. >> when you talk about send a voting, what they are actually saying is no voting other than our election. so, same day voting for them means no early voting, no pulls. >> i'm not with my republican friends on that. >> right? they are saying no group by mail. that is not the same day, that is not election day voting. so, what they want to do is they want to do away with voting by mail, and they want to do away with early voting, and, you know, it is high time that we stop paying attention to the press releases that the rnc issues and listen to what their lawyers are sing in court. my legal team just won two cases in wisconsin, one to expand the use of drop boxes in

the state on the other to make sure that ballots are not tossed in the garbage, because of small errors in the address that people fill in with their addresses, ballots should count and who is on the other side of those lawsuits? the rnc, the republican legislature. the republic think republican conservative outfits in the states. they are litigating aggressively in the states to make it harder for people to vote. >> and simone, just real quick, the reason why you have the same day voting initiative on the way? because they have dumbed down the voting population within the gop so dramatically around those other aspects of voting, like early voting, vote by mail, voting and they wants to get them to believe in those things again, which everybody else's using, so they want to cut it out for everyone. >> i like to say, when i was a

young democratic campaign staffer, it was republicans that used to dominate early vote. and now-- >> absolutely. the irony of it is that if you ask susan wilds-- >> well-- >> okay metaphor in politics, she would tell you that the reason why republicans were able to capture the governor's mansion in so many close elections, the reason why they were able to win the senate race against bill nelson was because they had an advantage in vote by mail. >> well-- >> donald trump had squandered the republican advantage there, because he is so intent on demonizing voting. >> it is always like he doesn't understand. you know what, mark? >> that's all i've got to say. >> michael is like, ask about me. okay, we have one more thing we want to discuss, because donald trump is thinking of efforts to get his new york criminal conviction tossed out. and i need some clarification. you are watching the weekend, folks. folks. wing stain. this bottle says i need to pretreat. that stuff has way more water. a little bit of tide goes a long way,

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the supreme court must be over the moon at all of this focus on president biden taking the heat off of them. but we are not letting the effects of their immunity ruling going unreported. you this week, donald trump asks judge juan mershon overturn his criminal conviction, arguing that it should be invalidated because of the court's decision that courts have immunity for quote, acts, this is after judge mershon pushed back his sentencing in the case to consider the impact of the ruling. and state attorney for palm beach county is here. >> thank you for being with us. so, there is theplease of this and there is also the dave check and part of this. and what you can be saved from the indictment, which includes trump strong-arming the justice

department, pressuring mike pence, jawboning state lawmakers in a fake electorate scheme, statements about january 6th. talk about the gift that the supreme court has given to us. >> yeah. it is a gift, strong-arming of the justice department will be gone. that is part of the president's core constitutional powers, but the other stuff within his official acts will be given a presumption of immunity that can be overcome. and i think that jack smith will be to overcome that. other stuff, like medications, his tweets, his speech, near the capitol, that is really a personal, unofficial act. so, the court refusing to go that far, the court says no, we will go back to the judge to decide. fake electorate? that is part of the official acts? even justice. said that a trial should be able to go on but the high court wouldn't even allow that. >> it's -- simone--

>> you came here to do the the discussed in my voice, because- - i just want to put this on the screen now. this is what the supreme court's immunity ruling said about official acts versus unofficial acts on july. it said he-- the president-- okay, is entitled to at least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. there is no immunity for unofficial act. i never knew you could do crimes in the government and get immunity. i would probably go back to federal government if i want to crime. mark? >> i mean, look this is-- not only an unworkable standard, and , you have-- you see lawyer after lawyer after lawyer on your show and others on this network try to explain it and it is about time we just acknowledge that it is inexplicable and indefensible. the supreme court created a standard that no trial judge is going to be able to administer

in anything approaching a speedy trial. i mean, we are beyond the getting it done right, getting it done fast, trying to get it done right. but this is going to be something out of a dickens novel, because judge chutkan will have to hold a hearing, whatever part she rules against donald trump on, he will appeal, we will be back then in the dc circuit, we will be back then in the supreme court, rinse and repeat, they are now filing motion motions for juan merchan in new york state, god knows how he will claim that the act he did with stormy daniels were official acts, but nevertheless, there will be a hearing on that, and, you know, meanwhile, time ticks by and donald trump remains a candidate. there will be no further trials before november. the justice system was simply not up to handling donald trump and that is something that all of the judges and justices need to confront. >> that is the understatement of all of this.

the justice system was not prepared to handle donald trump and seemingly still not the case, dave. and largely, because you have little nuggets left by the justices in their dissents and opinions. you have clarence thomas-- thomas's opinions on special counsel, noting, if there is no law establishing the office, that the special counsel occupies, then he cannot proceed with this prosecution, a private citizen cannot criminally prosecute, let alone a former president. what the hell is he talking about? because that we settle special counsel or special prosecutor law, or is clarence thomas dropping a little nugget for a future case two up and even that part of the system? >> there have been years of precedent of allowing the special counsel to continue. i am old enough to remember a guy named robert mueller.

here is justice thomas, saying even though i wasn't asked about this issue, i am going to give donald trump an extra gift and give judge cannon the ability to toss out the special counsel section, rely on my opinion, which no other justice signed off on, remember. justice thomas was all alone on that one, 8-1. domestic violence abusers are not allowed to own guns, justice thomas has been on the extremes of this court, sometimes he gets the majority. but this is just him standing alone. can i give you also just a little bit of a silver lining though. >> desperate for a silver lining. >> reporter: in washington, d.c., i think judge chutkan will hold a mini trial and present evidence and to show the world donald trump's activities before, during and after january 6th, trump does not want that to happen, that many trial will expose his conduct, even though there will be a trial before the election. >> thank you, thank you mr. chairman, when, when is she

going to all the special hearings? i have been hearing about this since the decision cannot on july 1st. what is this trevor shirley trove of information going to make itself available to the american people? >> i don't know the exact date, but she said she would be willing to cancel the vacation to get this thing going, so i think it will happen before the election. she doesn't want to be used as a tool for delay, so i think she wants something to be out there. >> mark, i would like to ask you, and this is probably a quasi-political question, i guess, with respect to our judicial system, how have they been able to get pumped so spectacularly by trump's lawyers in delaying the process? look, i get the eileen canons of the world, and there are a lot of them on the federal bench right now, who just roll over backwards for trump and that is the whole setup, and we talked a little bit about that before, but when you look at the system at large, did it just sort of bent over too much

to try to accommodate this particular criminal defendant versus what it would have done for others? >> yes, and i want to be unbending we clear on this. there have been a lot of commentators who have tried to parse between the judges, between the ones who have been less good. i am critical, frankly, of all of the judges and justices in this case. certainly, judge cannon has been one extreme, but the fact is that you can't say donald trump was treated like any criminal defendant he walks into a bar room in new york city or in washington, d.c. i know what those criminal defendants face and they do not get to argue extensively and extensively every theoretical issue. they don't get to badmouth the judge, the court, the witnesses, they don't get second chances and third chances and forth chances and the fact is that the judges,

did, i believe, show weight too much deference to the former president of the united dates. not the current president, a former president, who was running for the nominee of his party. if the standard moving forward is that anyone who is a candidate for federal office gets to use that as a shield against a timely, speedy trial, against a gag order, against the moral decorum that defendants are expected to show, then you are going to see a lot of people run for president in the future, the moment they get indicted. >> i'm going to do crimes and get on the ballot and go back to the white house, i don't know. >> thank you both very, very much. don't do any crime, folks. next, democracy may be hitting some speed bumps, but there's hope for the future. that is the argument made in the brent book and retrograde. co-authors dryness after a quick break. we will be right back on the weekend. weekend.

to protect democracy is an every day battle, and the new book, democracy and retrograde, has made changes big and small in our country and our lives and serves as a self help guide for getting involved in politics and saving democracy and maybe saving your sanity in the process. joining us now are the co- authors of that book, semi stage, the co-author and chief officer at judge chutkan five media, and lawyer to send it counsel majority leader, chuck schumer. good book. >> publishers weekly referred to it as a pop-culture inflected guide to civic engagement. i like it. there's a lot of talk about, you know, what is democracy, what does it mean to us? oh my god, it is so heavy, it

is so weighty, i don't know, i don't know. you both are looking to engage citizens, to reimagine themselves as part of this democratic democracy story. talk to us about that aspect of it and responding to people who say, or believe-- this is bigger than anything i can handle. >> yeah. i mean, people aren't wrong when they feel hopeless or helpless in the situation. what we really want to delay out here is a paradigm to help them change the way that they feel about politics. and we encourage people to start really local, to start really small, and this book really has a bunch of exercises to help you figure out what your values are, what your personality is, what your skills are, what you are passionate about, and that it prescribes, you know, different ideas for how people can get involved in their communities, in civic life and it doesn't always have to look hyper political. i think there's this idea that the only way to get involved is by text banking or working on a

campaign. in reality, politics is just about the way we all live our lives in community and we are hoping that this will help people make a paradigm shift in the way people think about themselves. we think about self-help in a way how do i be a better spouse or a sibling or a friend, and people don't think about that relationship we have to the collective, like just because we coexist here, what is owed to us and what is owed to each other and this is just a way for people to think about and find a way that they can get involved with that. hopefully have an election with turnout over 70% and see what americans really want from their future. >> i love those quizzes, they remind me of the women's magazine quizzes, i grew up taking-- there is an idea that a lot of women get, certainly not the four of us, but that they are not informed enough to talk about politics or that somehow talking about politics in a social setting is uncouth. what would you say to women,

who feel that they are opting out of the conversation for either of those reasons? >> so, the first thing i would say is that you already know all you need to know. you know you value, you know what you care about, what your kids need, what your friends need, you already know about that, so you have what you need to get started and get engaged in civic life and the second thing i would say is that, your silence is a political action. by not getting involved, by not speaking up, you are, in fact, giving people who want to take away our rights and disenfranchise voters and wants to empower corporations to pollute our rivers, you are empowering them and handing over your power to them. so, by speaking up, you are really stepping into your civic power and your ability to transform this country and help save democracy. >> i love that. yes, your silence is actually-- i mean look, people-- i think this point about not knowing exactly what to say is what hams people up and holds them back and i think a lot of folks

think they need to be a political professional right? people will see this and say she worked for chuck schumer, of course she knows what she is talking about, but i am not as- - you know, what about the people that are watching this at home who say i am not a political professional, i want to get engaged and involved, i hear you talking about self- care, and for some of them, self-care is to tune out until they can't-- until they happen to be tuned in, what you say to those folks? >> we don't need politics and civil engagement to be a biannual freak out, if the news you are consumer in, i'm sure it's not msnbc, but it is maybe outrage politics on social media, if that is making your blood pressure raise so much that you had of checking out, that means it is not good, and one of the things we have in the book is a worksheet to help you audit your news diet. so your goal is to figure out how to pull in information, because being informed is a key component but you want to make

sure you are pulling and information that helps you become more politically active and makes you want to get engaged. so maybe there's a local newsletter that you want to start getting so you can find out what is happening at your kid's school. maybe it is figuring out which newsletters and journalist she went to follow on social media. we want to make sure one of the things about this book is there is no specific action i can tell you to everybody across the board. so, the book walks you through what your civic action plan is.'s what is meaningful for you and sustainable. >> and the book you guys talk about civic engagement as a form of self-care. what does that mean? what does that look like? >> so, we also titus to the idea that we are all going through a loneliness epidemic and part of that is that people are so sideload. we are getting the simulation of these relationships from our digital online contacts, but the real relationships that make, you know, life-- that

improve people's quality of life and helps them feel supported and cared for and helps you feel like you are doing something for other people, are those real interpersonal, in person relationships? part of the irony is that emily and i actually met online, but what we want people to understand is that it is not that it has to-- you know, everything online does not have to be negative or blood pressure spiking, but cultivating intentionality around trying to get off of your phone, be involved with your neighbors, you know, the idea of rebuilding the social trust is ultimately something that will help all of us you know, there's this idea that autocracy is really just a bunch of atomized individuals who have also had to see themselves to the state and they don't have this interpersonal identity and they don't have these connections there's a reason that autocrats actually try to monitor and map people's relationships, it is because friendship and relationships and contact can be very dangerous to an autocrat. and so, when we are an involved

citizenry and we are interconnected with each other, we are speaking to each other about our issues, which is actually the most effective way of changing people's mines and increasing voter turnout, when we are engaged with each other we are not only helping the loneliness epidemic, we are helping democracy and our own personal life as well. >> sammy, emily, the book, those are the most dutiful covers i have ever seen, perfect gift for your friend who is ready to check out, it is called democracy. >> i have two here, michael, i have one for you as well. come back. >> much more ahead. but first, some exciting news for fans of the weekend. you will be able to enjoy the show soon as a brand-new podcast. starting next saturday, every single episode of the weekend will be available to listen to for free wherever you get your podcast. just scan the qr code on your screen. we are also tweeting it out, sharing on instagram and next week you will have full episodes on demand at your

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