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welcome to the beat weekend. i am ari melber. >> we begin with these vows, and sometimes confessions about the extreme agenda of the modern right, and we are not just talking about policy extremism, on taxes or education, but rather, how maga

forces are openly plotting what independent reports call and -- a revenge administration. >> the last new america will have no written constitution. >> some will say that i am advocating christian nationalism, and so i do. >> this is an approach on display at a national conservatism gathering, which i will get into with you tonight. this matters because voters are not only going to decide whether they truly want four more years of donald trump, but what more trump actually means. this is, i will tell you up top, a story about donald trump's positions. he is one of the people running for president. you know that. it's a story about his allies, and like anything in politics, it operates, it exists within these times, this current mood in politics. something that nicolle wallace just alluded to. this mood, let me tell you, could turn out to be overblown. this mood about how things are going or how the biden campaign

is doing may not predict the election, but there is, clearly, a perception in d.c. and among political elites that donald trump's election is now more likely. as they sometimes say, we will stop right there. we are not reporting trump's election is more likely as a matter of fact. no one has voted yet. no one can reliably report the future. i have mentioned that you before on stories of all kinds, but if we are dealing with reality, perceptions, or even false predictions can have consequences, especially in matters of human affairs and politics, but what i'm telling you, i bet you are already familiar with. i try to keep it clear on level with you. there are leaders in both parties, who seem to think right now that trump is more likely to be elected, and that is a perception atmosphere that matters, or it could matter and still prove not to be true. biden could still beat trump as he did once before. but even as the doubts about

biden get the tension, there is a flipside coming into view. maga leaders are not only saying they expect to win, but they have this emotion that might be tipping into a type of overconfidence or political arrogance, and that is part of what i want to get into before we bring in our guests, because i have been looking around my team and i have been reporting on this. we see here for you two key things that are pretty basic and matter here. one, this kind of excited confessions about the real trump agenda, and two, this possible political arrogance second feed mistakes, and even donald trump himself, now seems to be aware of how this could backfire. again, showing his keen sense of pr, if nothing else, and that is especially the case of more voters switch from hearing about democrats debating biden, whether they want him, which is a dynamic that could help trump, to hearing about what donald trump and the project

2025 project, agenda, nt might do with power. these people, including steve bannon, who just reported to prison, but who will one day get out will tell you what they want to do for payback, and that may cause taxable mistakes on the right even as they speak in these open terms about their agenda. the evidence i want to show you is that donald trump is backing away from this very project 2025 plan hash by his aides with clear ties to him, his past and future, but he is distancing himself from it, at least, politically. conservatives had been arguing trump was going to try to be responsible. he was not going to be the dictator, they said. he was not going to do the things that they said his opponents would, actually, do. the national review, saying hey, a reality check on trump as dictator, that kind of prophecy. these are recent pieces, but from before the debate. i pulled them for you because trump has been taking a similar

approach, basically, trying to argue that you can deal with him. it's not going to be too extreme or crazy if he wins, so yes, he rallies up his base online. he became a convicted felon, but in the big interviews and at the debate, he actually plays down the vengeance, but his own aides, trump administration veterans, are feeding those headlines. again, let's put this back up from before, trump conservative allies, plotting a, "revenge administration." that is their words. maybe with abandon, criminal defendants like architect john eastman, like abandon, peter navarro. maga allies talking about how they don't want to be a full- blown mafia, but if they aren't willing to dish it out, we can expect to keep taking it, the kind of violent talk that is in

this conversation now. bush era figures once deemed quite extreme are now admitting that if they win in 2025, retaliate against their foes in the same way they say they believe they were retaliated against. if we are not going to become a banana republic, john hugh admits, we are going to have to use banana republic means. he admits it. he says it. here is more from him. >> now, they are so worried because once they have destroyed all of these norms in the way they have gone after trump, they realize, republicans can turn around and do the exact same things to them. i don't want this norm to have been broken. i wish we were not using the criminal justice system to interfere in politics, but how else could you deter democratic d.a.s from doing the same thing? >> don't do what jesus would do. don't love thy enemy. play the long game. >> jesus wasn't running for

president. >> a little bit of jesus talk there. you will notice that as a type of pushback, coming even from fox. wait a minute, though, i think he was quoting jesus positively, and saying sometimes you have to love your enemy, turn the other cheek, that kind of stuff. john yoo says no. you don't win over voters like this. and, the arrogance is being noticed already. the miami herald in a key state with this headline, "cocky trump stretch at the rall political rally. it doesn't matter who they nominate." this is a project that even trump is walking away from, telling people project 2025, the agenda by his aides, maybe that is not what he is going to do. he doesn't know that taking up headlines over democrats debating biden. project 2025, which you have heard about and we have been covering it, goes well beyond a random wish list. it is a effort to launder and

normalize plans, by the people who really want to do all of this, and that may be why they are willing to use extreme rhetoric that goes beyond what trump wants right now. trump distancing, trump saying that may not be him. when he thinks swing voters maybe listening, but here are what some of these folks indirectly or directly tied to this project are saying at the national conservative convention in washington. >> i'm sure some will say now that i am calling america a christian nation. and, so i am. >> the progress flag says to me, it says to me, one monstrous thing. that i was a member of a government that presided over the mutilation of our children. >> the new america will have no written constitution. >> some will say that i am advocating christian nationalism, and so i do. >> public health agencies declared the coronavirus could not be spread at black lives matter protests. >> let's make the 10

commandments are simple. >> they are running the country as an unelected, secret oligarchy. they have donors, staff interest, and secret democrat party shadow bosses running the country. >> that last speaker served all four years in donald trump's white house. you may recall that many people came and went, mr. miller did not. this is the team, and while let's be clear and fair even in these tense times, candidates, of course, speak from themselves and they can distance themselves or try to separate themselves from what aides or ex-officials say. but, that is going to be hard for trump to do if we continue to look at the facts and evidence as, the giddy wing of maggot -- maga wants to tamp down extreme talk. he knows pr, nothing else. another trump official is vowing, the biggest deportation force america has ever seen,

adding in some swearing to make the point. wait until 2025. 2025 is the rallying call. 2025, this is when they will deliver this. now, again, if you follow the evidence, some of the maga talk outstrips the actual record. people can debate immigration. i have told you before, most presidents in both parties in the last 20 years have struggled with the issue for a lot of complex reasons, and with biden and trump, that is not as big a gap as some of the maga folks are selling. biden has outpaced donald trump's deportation record, returning over half 1 million people to mexico and other similarly situated countries with immigration issues, that exceeded trump's totals by lot . that is worth noting because people can debate how much deportation, and whether that is good or bad, but some of what you are hearing is them overselling it. meanwhile, donald trump says, 2025, maybe i met some of them

one time, but that's not my thing, because he has an understanding that this type of extremism and political arrogance will not help him win the election, which some now think he is more likely to do. as for the democrats, they are not just standing by. vice president harris, who has been playing a special role lately, sees it on the maga manifesto for voters. >> donald trump has openly vowed, if re-elected, he will be a dictator on day one. roundup peaceful protesters, terminate the united states constitution. trump advisers have created a 900 page blueprint of their agenda for the second term. they call it, project 2025. it includes a plan to cut social security. this represents an outright attack on our children, our families and our future. >> powerful. important warning. vice president harris also following one of the james

carville maxims, don't just tell them what they already know, tell them something new and true that matters, and he knows his way around campaigns, and democrats have still argued they want to be truthful, while donald trump has been caught lying more than any politician alive. that's the washington post, that is just a fact. it sounds negative, but if it's true versus lies, there is evidence that the carville maxims that vice president harris is pushing is working. i mentioned donald trump backing off his own teams work. that is a tell. he does not want more exposure on this. he does not want to see these headlines are this reporting on air. second, tell them something new and true. by clear metrics of public interest that we use today, going well beyond random holes, more people are looking into this controversial project than even the woman you see on your screen, who is of documented fascination. not only to swifties, but to so many people around the world.

shout out to taylor, i don't mean to bring her too deep into politics. if you compare the searches and the online traffic, queries to taylor swift or the nfl, here is a chart showing the main search engine people use. you will see taylor and the nfl clicking along with plenty of interest. the blue line is this very recent surge. i'm not talking about just news watchers or political junkies, or even say, trump foes. you don't get past those taylor and nfl levels without a heck of a lot of people searching project 2025. again, that is just search data. some of those people might be trump supporters. but, as trump walks away from it , i have a lot people are reading up on something that donald trump himself wants to disown. people are looking into this, and this brings us to a final point before i bring in our esteemed guest. there are choices in elections. the debate may or may not be a

low point for joe biden that he rebounds from, and wins again, or something that crystallizes questions about his candidacy. discussing that is part of dealing in the factual universe, not pretending that something was good or bad or indifferent to it, because you are worried it will affect your side or the other side. we deal in facts here. let's be clear, politically, a referendum on biden's competence is one way to look at the election and it raises questions. a referendum on what trump would actually do with his power, which apparently, he does not want you and other people to do, to be searching 2025 and looking at their actual plans. that could lead, potentially, to a very different outcome in november. i want to tackle those questions, that referendum, when we are back with our experts. ok at that! the heavy duty cloths are extra thick, for amazing trap & lock. even for his hair. wow. you'll love swiffer or your money back.

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the left's new america will have no written constitution , no rule of law. no independent judiciary, no democratic accountability or national sovereignty. it will be a global theocracy, with marxist, fundamentalist sitting on its grounds, managing its bureaucracies and menacing its enemies. >>. is a warning out of maga land. we are joined by maia wiley and robert draper, who has been covering some of this on his republican platform, that could read like a trump rally. i welcome both of you. robert, i laid out both the realities here, of why some

people think there is rhetorical or pr daylight between trump and some of these extreme agendas. your thoughts? >> my thoughts are principally, as you have laid out, it is intellectually unreasonable to suggest there is a lot of distance between the two. after all, the heritage foundation played a critical role in 2017 in staffing the first trump administration, and you pointed out all of the staff connections between heritage, trump, and project 2025. it is politically reasonable. trump wants to give himself plenty of wiggle room. we have seen this also with the platform, which gets by with the absolute minimum. he does not want to play his hand. i should also say, trump wants credit for everything that happens, so when he is distancing himself from the heritage foundation and project 25, in part, it's because he does not want anyone else to

actually act like they are the shadow policymakers. it's all about trump. we saw this before with the federalist society and their role in the supreme court pics. the president wanted credit for those. ultimately, he gets the credit, but it was not his idea. >> maya? >> yes, absolutely. kevin roberts, the president of the heritage foundation, which produced project 2025 himself said, essentially, conservatives him now is trumpism. he created a direct and explicit line to donald trump, and really reinforced even with some others that are conservative republican said, that this is no longer the party of lincoln but this is the party of trump. it has become a cult of personality as much as something that is platform to. it's very tenants are taken from the mouths of donald trump and all

of those who have served him. it is pretty obvious, and i just want to underscore this important point about the federalist society. donald trump ran on a platform that said he was going to overturn roe v. wade. he ran on that platform. he installed those justices because the federalist society told him these are the people, who will deliver overturning roe v. wade. that's what he did. that's what he got. a lot of these are the same folks. it's the same playbook, and even now, to your point about the tell, we are seeing them changing the language in the republican platform, not to say that they want to create a national abortion ban, but to say they want to enforce personhood under the 14th amendment. do you know what that is? it is code for a national abortion ban, but it's their way of trying to communicate to white christian nationalists

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r-o-l-a-i-d-s spells relief. because of the combined coverage last night, we got this number late in the day, ratings tend to come out later in the day. over 20 million americans, actually, watched that speech last night, so it's up with the state of the union, super bowl, as that kind of level of event. it was on all of the networks. it was not a perfect press conference, but a lot of people thought it was a pretty good one. your thoughts? >> i thought it was a very good one, particularly, given that everyone was placing the bar so low. you would think the man would not be able to get out of bed to, actually, do the press conference, given the narratives, but no, the president is in this fight. i'm reminded of a conversation i had -- i was in new york last

weekend. i was waiting for the train and an elderly irishman came up to me and said hello. we were chatting a little bit, and before he went to take his train, he turned back and looked at me and said, joe biden is not quitting this race. i said, why do you say that? he said, because he remembers and is right now, that 11-year- old kid, who was bullied on the playground because of his stutter. and so, he is in the fight, and when he's up against the bully, and he sees both donald trump, and quite honestly, members of his own party right now, as bullies, who are trying to bully him out of this race, and in the case of donald trump, trying to bully the country into an authoritarian regime, and he wants to stand in that fight. when you look at that 81-year- old man, now 41, and you see in him, that fight, you have to have mad respect for that.

i get what a lot of people are saying, but he has, basically, drawn the line of saying, if you want me out, come take me out. i hope the democrats understand what they are about to get into. maybe they will have a rush of people that will come out and scream at the president to get out of the race. maybe there will be private conversations with chuck schumer and nancy pelosi, to encourage him to get out of the race, to tell him he can't win, but it seems to me, the more you tell him he can't win, the more he knows he can, and what's interesting is, the polling is showing his own base is consolidating around that idea. yeah, he's old, we get it. we got it. he stumbles. he has been stumbling for 50 years. how many gaffe reels do we have of joe biden? >> look, i don't want to over complement you, but your clarity is reminding us why we come to you, even in these big, politically tense, emotional stories, because while there

are understandable concerns on both sides, and i cover both sides of this story, and the questions raised about the fitness of both of these candidates, both of these elderly men, by the way. the way i have set it for month is, they are both above the retirement age, so we know they are both older, and you can debate how they both came into office, but they have both done the job in very different ways. they are both the presumptive nominees. that's the wording we use when the primaries are over and the conventions haven't occurred. generally, it's unlikely that presumptive nominees don't become the nominee. i have discussed that evidence with the viewers. the other thing you are alluding to, whether you want to use the anecdote on the train station, or the polling, or the other indications we are getting, michael, the narrators, some of the d.c. narrators have been more emotional, more angry, more, at times, panicked than the audience, then the citizenry. at the end of the day, this will be up to the citizenry.

i say that by way of introduction, before i get your response to all of that, to dl huguely, who has been on this program. he is a smart comic. he works with live audiences all the time. he has that feel, and i want to play some of what he said in his own style, getting biden's back, and speaking to what you referred to as the bullying or pushback. take a listen. >> i watch a man get adjudicated for sexual battery. i watched a man that got convicted, never have i heard this fervor from the media in general about his qualifications to be president. if you are going to have a conversation about how old he is, have a conversation about how old they want to take this country back to. george clooney, he's not the man he was. name me a time when somebody gave up the incumbency and won. if you can vote for a convicted

felon, i can vote for a cadaver. >> that is how he put it. your thoughts? >> i love dl. it's the one thing i have always admired about him. he keeps it real. he and i have butted heads on stuff, policy and things like that, but he's always engaged in the conversation, because as a comic, certainly, but as someone who is also an activist, he has his finger on a lot of pulses out there, and i think it's very true what he says. we have watched the story, the saga, the drama, the serial nature of donald trump unfold in front of our eyes, and you have not heard the media go to the same depth of devcon seven, particularly, given that there are only five levels of def con. it has stunned me. i have had to deal with a lot of this crazy when i was at the rnc. you say the least little thing

and people lose their mind, but this has been absolutely apoplectic, over-the-top crazy. and, the handwringing and the pearl clutching and the big alligator tears. this is the best part for me. the people who say, oh, hey, you know, you are a good guy. you are a great president. we love your service to the country. this killing me softly kind of approach. i think dl has his finger on that. and, a lot of voters out there don't appreciate it. 14 million people voted for joe biden, and now you have the human cry of the media, the new york times, and the washington elites, elected officials, who are screaming, we don't like your choice! well, you have that conversation with the 14 million people, who voted for him, and put somebody up and see what they do if that is not

their choice. this is the conundrum that democrats have put themselves in. they need to get a grip. they need to get behind the 81- year-old guy, and if they need to will his ass over the finish line, that is what you do. >> the true deadline for the democrats is august 7th. that is the scheduled date for the roll call vote that would occur prior to the convention. long before this debate issue, the rollcall was partly a response to efforts in ohio for republicans to play around. i will summarize that and keep it brief, but to play around with deadlines and whether or not the democratic nominee would be official by then, so the democratic lawyer said, we will hold it early and skip any debate. september, you have the second scheduled debate if they both do it. there is no law that forces them, but that was the agreement. early voting in key swing states begins in october. michael, how does that calendar

line up against what joe biden is doing right now, which is doing a campaign rally in michigan's, one of the three blue wall states that he would need to win, and would need the early voting and everything else to come into perspective for him. how does that compare to what you were just discussing, which was a washington or elite conversation about trying to maybe make a change, if you use august 7th, with about 25 days left? >> yeah, look, the democrats, and i want to be very clear, because rank-and-file baseline democrats are consolidating around the president. there are more than three or four pulling examples out there now of that. that is an important piece of the narrative here. you cannot dismiss it. even when you have in our own polling at nbc news and others that show 67% to 75% of those when asked if joe biden should run again say, no.

the question is, who would you vote for between joe biden and donald trump, and the answer comes back 45-45 or 46-45. there is a consolidation happening right now in the political marketplace among rank-and-file democrats across the nation, who are looking at joe biden saying, everybody has figured out he is old, he's old, but i like him. he is better than the criminal. he's better than the guy that has 34 felonies hanging over his head, right? you have that. then, you have the clock/calendar, which is what they are up against in washington, because if you do want joe biden out, you better get him out in three, two, one. because, you don't have a runway here. you don't have a runway otherwise. because, joe biden is sitting on $100 million in cash. unless kamala harris steps into that joint, nobody is getting that, and they will have to start all over.

that takes out whitmire, gavin newsom, anybody want to put up, because they won't have the cash in their bank to run the rest of the race. they just mount. i don't know how many democratic billionaires are out there, it ain't happening. you also have the problem of the base i was just talking about. if you are going to do a swap out, when are you going to do it? are you going to do it into the convention, in which case you have an open convention, and lord knows how that turns out? a lot of angry delegates, some of whom are joe biden delegates. do you think they are going to lay down after the fight they have been through to get there? keep dreaming. but then, if you say, okay, joe, kaman, we will nominate you, and then you get out of the race okay, that even sounds stupid. how do you play that narrative on the backend? then, the party has to decide,

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here today because, this will be your last week of employment at this company. >> george clooney, a memorable role in up in the air, where he had the job of telling people their work was over, they were fired. we are joined again by molly jong-fast and michael steele. molly, george clooney try to reprise that role in the real world, and use his role as a very rich person, worth hundreds of millions of dollars, reportedly, and a big fundraising supporter of the president, and a celebrity, to step into what michael steele, earlier, criticized as a kind of panicky rush without looking through all of the facts and without also weighing the faults of the other candidate. molly, what do you think about that aspect, that some of the people in joe biden's orbit, including those who like him and think he is a good president, and some of the other democrats pushed all of

this out very quickly, a kind of snap plan to replace the president. the current nominee, and he is the nominee until he decides he is not. that's how it works. there seems to be, after two weeks in the polling, a movement away from that. >> i wrote, right after it happened, for vanity fair, but i thought everyone should slow down. that i thought making a decision this monumental in two days was insane, and i got pushed back for that. honestly, i hate to say this, but i was actually right. look, we had this week of bunkers financial news, right? inflation is lowering, the fed is going to cut rates now. they think, in september. just one good piece of financial news after another. the market is doing great. these are the things that joe biden will be running on. bringing chips manufacturing back to the midwest. the guy has a stutter.

he has always not been a gifted oratory. 2000 joe biden made gaffes too. he called himself a gaffe machine. the idea that now, he must be disqualified, because he makes gaffes, anyone that saw the debate, look, i'm not telling people what to do, because this is a very hard question, right? none of us have enough information to make an informed decision, and because of the high-stakes nature of this election, this is one of the hardest questions, i think, that we have faced in this business, but i'm telling you, he can run on this really good economy, because he has been president for four years. while the vice president can, certainly, do that, no other candidate can. a lot of these, joe biden should drop out, op-ed's, felt to me like a little bit of wish casting. we need the west wing to come in there and write us a

president, and that's not how any of this works. >> as we end the hour, and the beat installment on friday. i go to jackson browne. dr., my eyes have seen the fears and the slow parade of tears. two weeks of tears among some in d.c. what do you say to those who have wiped away their tears and need to get back to work, as you put it earlier? >> look, like you, and i'm sure others, i'm not trying to tell people how to vote. you have your own thoughts about this, but all i'm asking people to do is recognize the fight that is still in the man and recognize his ability to galvanize and bring us together around a very simple idea. america is worth fighting for. america is worth saving. america is all of us. and, there is a presidential candidate in our midst, who

wants to divide us, who wants to ship some of us away, who wants to put some of us in concentration camps, who wants to use the power of our institutions against the american people, and you have to decide for yourself whether or not you are ready to buckle up enough to get behind the 81- year-old guy, who is like, i am ready to do this fight. let's just push him. let's keep pushing him. let's pick him up and push him some more. if you are not pushing joe biden, you're pushing the country. you are pushing who we are as citizens, that is what this is about for me. i hope it's important to enough americans, not in july, not in the summer. go do you, work on that tan, but when it's time for you to saddle up and buckle up, labor day, come october, do the work.

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dropped far more headlines than any time in the past several decades, for scandals, drifting, their secret benefits and gifts to justice alito's home, violating the u.s. flag code, in solidarity with those who stormed the capital. the courts rulings, revealing blatantly, partisan edge. i don't mean conservative ideology. i mean probe republican, finger on the scale, partisanship. chief justice roberts, leading a very maga court. it makes up rules. it makes up law on the fly. that is something that conservatives had claimed to oppose, and sometimes accused others of, but now you have the unprecedented ruling that helps trump avoid a coup trial by avoiding a new immunity that no other person or president has ever had in american history. by definition, that is new law, not old president. roberts also failing to lead the court into any traditional deference or unity. let's be clear, other courts, even in tough times with many clashes have been less partisan. they have found ways to bring

justices together in a compromise, or sometimes humble agreements. this term, actually, saw the highest rate of justice is going it alone. that is through what they call concurring opinions, rather than finding a broader agreement or consistent legal reasoning. and that means, that is happening even when the conservatives agree on their rulings, on what they think the holding should be. here is how the new york times put it in one count. "these justices in this past term could not find consensus on the rationale, even in agreement. they issued what i just told you about, the concurring opinions at a record rate, the highest since at least 1937, which is often how they have candidate, and probably, the highest ever. that is a setback for roberts. it shows a type of failure and a type of partisanship. it's also, of course, a failure for the justices he leads in the majority, primarily, these republican appointees. critics say this is a sign that this court does not even

pretend to be interpreting one constitution with one lens, because its members are, literally, making up their own different and competing rationales, and these republican appointees don't seem to care that the public will see this breakdown. that they can't actually say five of them issued a ruling for the same reasoning. now, if these are real problems, are there real solutions? the court is deliberately insulated, more so than the political branches, no elections, no term limits, no mandatory retirement. judges are also, not typically, facing the threat of removal for how they rule, for their rulings. they can be impeached for misconduct, and tonight there is rare news on that front. congresswoman alexandria ocasio- cortez has issued new articles of impeachment against both justices thomas and alito, citing high crimes in there now exposed practice of taking these huge gifts and hiding it,

failures to disclose, failures to recuse, even when, according to the congresswoman, they had clear legal conflicts. it's a major step. it's the first time anything like this has been attempted in over a century. if there is precedent here it would go back to justice fordyce, who resigned after the exposure of a financial scandal that was smaller than what clarence thomas faces today. the justice pocketed about $20,000, and what he took was investigated by the doj at the time. when that news broke, we checked the archives, the washington post reported the justice thus ended what was, "11 days of anguish" personal and for the supreme court that began with discharge. he took, a $20,000 fee from a convicted stock manipulators family foundation. the resignation, first by a justice under fire in u.s. history was effective wednesday. that was a different time. clearly, a different standard that that justice help himself

to compared to today, because after an error was exposed, it was dealt with. today's justices are unabashed, shameless, as they say, in their drifting, even as they have rulings that make up new law from ending abortion rights to boosting trump with a new made up immunity for the so- called official acts that never existed before. and, practically speaking, that ruling gives trump an extra gift, and that is a court that has the members that appreciate gifts. it gives them the delays he wanted. let's be clear. this court did not try to hide the rulings, partisan, pro-trump bias, because when the court found there were certain trump allegations, where trump was immune, they said, they said okay, they declared that from the bench. the court ruled that trump was immune from anything he told his attorney general, even if it may advance an illegal coup.

for allegations they said michael against trump, they sent us back to the lower courts for a special and lengthy process. in other words, the court says if it helps trump, lightning speed. if it hurts trump, well, that could take years, or be thrown out entirely. this is not the jurisprudence of serious people. but, on a growing list of issues, these are not serious people. these are not serious judges. this is increasingly, obviously, a maga court with maga logic, where the spectrum runs from outright drifting and lying, now challenged by impeachment articles, to the more establishment rulings that claim to be something else, that try to legally sand off the edges of a now officially autocratic and imperial presidency on the op six, while delivering it for trump and mega -- maga, for years to come in

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