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this is an nbc news special report. good evening. it is 11:00 on the east coast. i am stephanie rule continuing our special coverage on the assassination attempt of former president trump. that attack happened yesterday in butler, pennsylvania. tom llamas has more from the scene. spake take a look at what

happened . >> reporter: tonight, new video and firsthand accounts showing the apparent rake gun and security that led to the frightening assassination attempt of former president trump. a picture is emerging of a perimeter that was protected, but just outside of it, 150 yards from where trump was speaking, and area where a would be assassin saw a crime opportunity. >> i witnesses say this field to the right of where former president trump was speaking outside of the perimeter was filled with people and people were walking up. that building right there behind me is where the alleged assassin was on the roof. >> reporter: in these photographs, valerie was standing below where the gunman was firing and you can see the building in the background. on the roof is where the shooter took his position to try to kill former president trump. valerie saying how they were exchanging fire right above her head. >> i asked the gentleman close to me i said what is going on

and can you tell us something and he said there is somebody on the roof with the backpack, and shortly after that is when he started shooting. >> valerie said she saw this gate secured by just zip ties and a woman freely riding around the area outside of the perimeter on a horse with a trump flag. the shots rang out around six: 11 pm minutes and his speech. trump first grabbed his ear than taking to the ground before the secret service agents rushed in completely surrounding him. mr. trump's face reappears with blood streaming from his ear down his face and he lived safest in the air mouthing the words of fight several times and before being escorted off

the stage and into an suv. the shooter taken out by secret service agents identified as thomas matthew crooks. his motive is not clear yet. >> tonight a multiagency investigation is underway. federal law enforcement is working to gain access to the gunman's cell phone. the rifle he used has been sent to the fbi lab in quantico. earlier the president addressed the nation from the oval office and clearly denounced political violence in any form. he took a moment to remember the man shot and killed while attending the rally, 50-year- old corey comperatore. >> cory was a husband, a father and a volunteer firefighter, a hero and sheltering his family from those bullets and we should all hold his family and all of those injured in our prayers. i want to speak to what we do know. a former president was shot. an

american citizen was killed while simply exercising his freedom to support the candidate of his choosing. we cannot and must not go down this road in america. >> an american citizen was killed yesterday while supporting the candidate of his choosing. tonight our thoughts are with his family. i do want to bring into our conversation are retired special agent and also an msnbc terrorism analyst and the pulitzer prize-winning reporter for the new york times. where do things stand in the investigation? >> what is interesting is we have a few things we know and those things we don't. number one the shooter was 20 years old and we do know that he was somebody who didn't seem to have any signs so far of somebody who makes threats online and not a typical thing that we look for in a shooter and he wasn't making threats and he's not tied to any ideology and they say they are still trying to get into his

phone and they are hoping some type of communications would give them a clue as to why he did what he did. there is no motive known. we do know in high school he was a loner and he went to community college and graduated with an associates degree in engineering and for the most part he was considered quiet. his colleagues at the nursing home where he served people meals were shocked to find out he was involved in this shooting as were many people who knew him. while we do know some biographical details about thomas matthew crooks, there is still a lot we need to learn. most importantly is the motive. >> walk us through how an investigation like this develops. it couldn't be more important. you have so many different agencies involved. >> that is right. we have to remember that there won't be a prosecution here. we are going through the steps. what we want to do is learn from the experience so we can stop the next killer. the fbi has publicly said they

believe he acted alone and he is dead. we won't have a court case. we will collect forensic evidence and examine the guns and find the fingerprints and find his father and it was his gun and we will find these things and katie laid out a bunch of the facts we know and this is the invisible man. there is no digital footprint or facebook pages or big manifestoes, no belonging to groups. he isn't really a political guy either. he was a registered republican and he gave to democratic causes. he was only 20 years old. was see a republican for an hour and a democrat for an hour. it isn't a political killing in that vein. the circumstances tell us what this guy is. he is the invisible man and nobody sees him and he is bullied in school and he has no identity or presence or face. he is nothing. he wants to be something. i think the motive is power for

infamy and he wants to be famous. he wants to be visible and somebody. to me it is like hinckley and i was under the secret service detail in 1980 when they tried to penetrate them and they were thick that day with the police and he didn't get through the cordon and he turned and went to the airport and got caught with three pistols and arrested, booked and given a $62 fine and, six months later he shot ronald reagan. the reason i bring that up is carter was a democrat and reagan was republican. he just wanted to kill the president to impress a hollywood actress. it wasn't really political with hinckley. this is kind of like the way the sky looks to me. he wanted infamy, i think andy

got the rifle and probably shot it a few times and maybe he was a little bit of a shooter. that is an easy shot if you have a little bit of a hollow scope on there or a red dot little scope and that is and a hard shot. he fired eight times. he only grazed the former presidents ear. he wasn't that great of a shot, but he was close. but if he had a bigger scope and the bigger rifle with a bigger shooter, he would've killed the former president. the only reason the former president is alive is because of a few inches anyway. it is basic and horrible. but that is what it is. i think it was a guy seeking infamy. >> last night at 6:30, 7:30. and as we learn bits and bits of this horrible news, what were you thinking?'s what went through your mind?

>> you know, i rolled back through the history and i was with the police in the early 70s and we were on the heels of two rifle associations, john kennedy's and dr. king. when we would get involved with the secret service on protection assignments, they were so conscious of the high ground because of those two rifle assassinations. they never gave it up and there were uniformed officers or secret service officers or agents by atf and the high ground was never given up and i was shocked saturday evening when we found out it was a rifle shot close to the ds -- dais. i think we had a complacency and a group think and all other assassination attempts on political figures in america except for the two i described. they are handguns. lincoln, kinley, garfield,

ronald reagan and squeaky from on ford and sarah jane more on ford, george wallace with a handgun. they are all handguns except for those two i mentioned, which are were along -- were a long time ago. they faded into the memory of detail. because in my memory that was prominent on your four head with a rifle because that is what we experienced so much. i was shocked and i have really been more worried about a drone attack because we are in the little bubble here in the united states and sometimes we don't pay attention and the ukraine war, the drone technology that is destroying russia over there is unbelievable. it has reached technical levels that is hard to describe.

they are flying drones into kill battle tanks by the hundreds and thousands over there. we had a few assassination attempts with drones and that is what has worried me is the drone or explosives being on it. i always believe the service would have the high points covered from the rifle. that is shocking to me. >> january 6 happened not that long ago. we do know how divided things are and we know how aggressive the rhetoric has become an you covered the justice department. in the last 20 hours, as you have called your sources within the department, things like what jim just said like complacency or groupthink, they shocked and surprised to that something like this could take place given how heated we all know things are? >> i will answer the question in a little bit of a different way and there is a lot of shock and surprise that people think what happened is wrong but for the justice department,

remember it is under the department of homeland security. we have already seen the president publicly say the needs to be an independent investigation of this situation created by the secret service on saturday and that will happen in the white house referred me to dhs to figure out who this independent oversight -- investigator will be and dhs hasn't commented or decided to call me back. clearly, there is recognition inside the administration which includes dhs and the justice department that saturday didn't go well and something happened that was wrong and you will see outside congressional oversight to make the same point. i don't think this is anything in dispute. people brought up other things multiple times whether they are at fbi or doj, it feels like the combination of, to your point, heated rhetoric, not like -- unlike what we saw with january 6. over the past decade

we have seen a national security situation in the united states begin to fray with not only tempers flare but also action and extremists try to kidnap governor whitmer and we have seen nancy pelosi and her husband be physically attacked and we saw this and it isn't a surprise to people a national security that these are the sorts of things that could happen in the surprise is the secret service didn't prevent it. this is one of the reasons i think you are seeing from the white house and trump campaign and some of the former presidents surrogates a call to please calm down the rhetoric and the secret service is stretched thin. the country is afraid. we don't want to see copycat crimes. it's one of the reasons why the fbi would really like to come up with a motive and show people what happened that they could solve this because they do want to put an end to any

thought that this is the sort of thing that people should do in order to make other political statements. but they said it is being investigated as an act of domestic terrorism and it could create a political outcome or impact the way we run as a society. they want to make sure it isn't part of what happened in this incident. if it is, want to make a strong statement again as a deterrent. we are in a fragile situation. but one of those that they have been talking about and worried about for years. >> thank you so much for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. >> when we come back, we will dig deeper into president biden is responding to this political violence committed against his opponent when our special coverage continues. coverage continues. you want ♪ ♪ what could go wrong? ♪ ♪ come on, come on, come on ♪

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you know, the political rhetoric in this country has gotten very heated. it is time to cool it down. we all have a responsibility to do that. this is inevitable and it's part of human nature but politics must never be a better fit -- battlefield or a killing field. politics should be there for peaceful debate to pursue justice and make decisions guided by the declaration of independence and our constitution. we stand for in america and not

of extremism and fury but decency and grace. >> that was president biden in a rare oval office address calling on the country to lower the temperature and denounce all political violence of all kinds. joining me now to discuss his are correspondent who is covered president biden for decade and peter baker the chief white house correspondent. this was the third oval office address of biden's presidency. talk to us more about his response and message of unity and how the white house is handling it. >> it is remarkable when you think about the last 48 hours. we saw president biden on friday in detroit. the white house has been using the word fighter to describe him as he is in this battle to retain the democratic nomination for president trying to demic -- convinced democrats he should remain in this race with some of the toughest rhetoric on president trump and the rally calling him a loser

and talking about his felony conviction or what he would do if he were reelected to another four years in the oval office. as a result of this assassination attempt on donald trump, this searing event in our nations history, the president has returned to home base, the joe biden that so many democrats and so many americans voted for in 2020 and president biden, the one who is drawn on that well of empathy and tragedy in his own life to be a consoler in chief or the uniter in chief before the country and this is really been the president over the last 24 hours trying to take command of the situation and he is a candidate for president and the democratic nominee. this is an incident involving his opponent, but as the head of the government and the president of the united states, he is to lead the nation for a moment of crisis and officials have been emphasizing this is been his focus dealing with briefings from his team and setting the tone for the

country and obviously a heated political campaign but as he said in his victory speech in 2020 and his inauguration speech and 2021 and as we heard tonight in the oval office it's time to lower the political temperature and he hopes that the case moving forward. >> we know president biden spoke with former president donald trump after the attack. what we know about that conversation? >> we haven't been told very much and meet were told it was short and respectful and polite in the president obviously wished his opponent and the former president trump well and glad he wasn't seriously hurt. it doesn't sound like there was a whole lot more to it than that but we haven't gotten the full readout on either side and particularly extensive details but it is obviously a fraught moment and like we said this is a president who was a candidate and leader of the country at the same time and you saw him in this role the night he is talking about the state of the country more broadly and not

just about this campaign and it's been a period of discord and polarization over the last few years and it has involved heated rhetoric and involved threats and actual execution of political violence on both sides of different degrees and i think what he was trying to do here is provide leadership as mike just said about how to cool the temperature and cool it down. >> tonight in an interview with the washington examiner, donald trump is putting the word out that he is potentially rewriting his rnc speech and more of a message of unity. it sounds like you are not buying it. in your latest article for the new york times, you write that this assassination attempt seems likely to tear america further apart and bring it together. explain. >> you saw the first instincts within minutes and hours of the

shooting as soon as people realize that the former president wasn't seriously hurt, the recriminations began instantaneously with the bitterness and anger and resentment. even at the rally you saw some of the presidents own supporters instantaneously attacking the reporters and not physically attacking but cursing the media saying it was their fault and they would be next and some of the presidents allies like his eldest son and campaign strategist took the social media and other venues in order to say this is the fault of democrats who used in their view incendiary rhetoric about president trump and they say they have vilified president trump and verify -- therefore bear responsibility. it was the back and forth and partisan divide over this incident so quickly, i think, is really telling. past assassination attempts have been divisive and they

have rarely been about republican and democrat and whether this gunman was about that or not, we don't know. it instantaneously, it brought to the surface this partisan divide that we have been watching develop and grow over the last decade. >> mike, you are talking about this moment for president biden and where he was today and what he spoke about tonight. let's look at the week ahead with his schedule and the vice president schedule. >> it is interesting. i think there is a real trepidation on the part of the campaign about when do you campaign again and the first and foremost obligation at this time by the president and you look at his schedule tomorrow, it's to have a briefing again and the situation room with his core team. but then he will sit down with lester holt for an interview in which officials say he will expand upon the theme of his oval office address about the need not just for the country to come together to condemn political violence but ended.

and then the president will in fact had out on the campaign trail in las vegas on tuesday and wednesday to speak to major gatherings of core constituencies of the democratic base and black voters at the naacp convention and latino voters as well. he will hold a separate set of campaign events at a key battleground state. this will be happening as the national convention plays out and republicans are not taking a beat at all. it is hard but important for them to balance those obligations. you talk about the vice president schedule. she has been with the president in these briefings. she will be again tomorrow, but she did have an interesting set of events planned for her during this republican convention week. she was going to host moderated conversations with republican women, the first of which was supposed to be in palm beach, florida, literally and donald trump's backyard. it was canceled almost immediately after this

assassination attempt. her schedule is in flux as they find the right tone because the campaign says they want to draw the contrast between the positive vision the president is running on for the second term versus the backward vision we will see from the rnc this week. >> when you look at this week ahead, can you speak how the president and his campaign will try to balance this? >> it is a very awkward moment. you don't want to look political at a time of crisis. but at the same time we have a convention that will invariably be partisan which is the point of the convention. how they strike that balance will be an interesting dilemma. to the extent that the president tried to show that tonight, i think that is a bit of a preview that he wants to show that his message has always been in some ways about unity and that has been a theme of his since the campaign in 2020, but republicans could point to some of the things he said and complain that they

were inflammatory and point specifically to a fundraiser a week ago where they said it was time to put trump in a bull's- eye and his campaign strategy would be attack attack attack and he meant politically and not physically not in terms of actual violence. but the argument republicans will make is a larger narrative that former president trump had been trying to advance for a long time which he has been under attack and persecuted when it comes to indictments or lawsuits or now this kind of an event. we don't know that this had anything to do with politics but the motive is still up in the air and we should be very careful about implying or assuming we know what is going on. but the fact that the republicans were quick to point a finger at democrats indicates, first of all the level of bitterness in there is and of course it ignores the fact that president trump

himself has long been somebody who is encouraged violence in his rhetoric and talked about pardoning the january 6 rioters and encouraged supporters to beat protesters at his own rallies. he made fun of the attack on paul pelosi and so forth. so they said they are pointing fingers at democrats and there isn't a lot of discussion at where president trump has been inflammatory himself and that may be blaming the victim which is where republicans will say in this moment and it's not something i think you will hear president biden talk about but the reality is this division has been growing for quite a while. >> of course, michael is the colleague said they have reported today for nbc news that the presidents language target bull's-eye and these are

figures of speech and put into a broader context and he was certainly not meaning anything targeting or physically targeting the former president, correct?'s >> that is right. the comment that the republicans seized on quickly last night after this attempt was part of a conversation that president biden was having with campaign donors earlier this week as part of a series of conversations he was having to try to restore confidence in his candidacy going forward in the presidents point was the democrats were engaged in this family feud at a moment when they needed to be focused on donald trump and that he largely had been off the campaign trail for the last several weeks. he said it is time to focus on donald trump and not this battle. >> thank you so much for your reporting and i know you have been up late and i appreciate having you here. when we come back, we will reflect on this moment in history with presidential historian and special coverage. wait, there's an elevator? only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, ♪ ♪ liberty. ♪

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the united states has tragically seen assassinations and attempted ones throughout our history. but as my colleague reports, the country today faces a dangerous rise in political violence. >> take a look at what happened -- >> reporter: political violence strikes yet again in america with an assassination attempt on former president trump. he nearly avoided serious injury at the rally saturday in pennsylvania. while it isn't the first time a president or presidential candidate has been the target of political violence, it has been decades since such a high profile attempt. in 1963 president kennedy was shot and killed in dallas while riding in a motorcade. >> to priests with president kennedy say he is dead. >> reporter: his brother shot and killed five years later in 1968 while campaigning for

president. and then 13 years after that in 1981, it was the attempted assassination on president reagan. in recent years politicians on both sides of the aisle have been the target of attacks. like the democratic congresswoman gabby giffords shot in 2011. and republican congressman steve still lease -- steve scalise in 2018. since then the climate has escalated more leading to the 2020 plot to kill the michigan governor gretchen whitmer. and also the attack on nancy pelosi's husband paul pelosi and the arrest of a man allegedly attempting to kill brett kavanaugh that same year. >> i cannot condone this. >> reporter: republicans and democrats are condemning the attack on mr. trump, the incident only punctuating concerns about a growing support for political violence. a recent pbs poll found one in

five americans think violence may be necessary to get a country back on track. last summer tucker carlson asked former president trump whether he was concerned about violence. >> are you worried they will try to kill you? why wouldn't they? >> they are savage animals and they are people that are sick and really sick. i have seen what they do and the links they go to. >> reporter: following the assassination attempt saturday, this political scientist expressed concerns about what happened in pennsylvania could lead to more violence. >> this is a very grave turn of events in a country that is very deeply polarized. i do deeply worried that it pre- stages much more political violence and social instability. >> reporter: a dangerous reckoning in america reaching a boiling point. >> joining me now is a celebrated author and

presidential historian. michael, you have studied and written about american presidents throughout our history. last night, after you heard about the attempted assassination of former president trump, what was your reaction and what were you thinking? >> obviously, i was outraged. i wish i could tell you that my attitude was that this was un- american and what a big surprise. but probably the worst thing i have to say is that the violence has been rising in the past 30 years. look at least the reported death threats against american presidents back to clinton which have been rising of the last 30 years in clinton time which compared to nowadays seems like a calm time when americans loved each other and you do remember there was a guy who is so angry at clinton that he pulled his airplane into the south wall of the white house and other threats and they have

been rising through george w. bush and popular wars and barack obama and the first african american president. so the violence has gotten mixed with politics in a way that probably we haven't quite seen before in most of american history. >> what does history tell us about the impact on the country after an event like what happened yesterday? >> if it had succeeded, that would have been the outrage and anger and the conflict between one group of americans against another and it probably would've been almost overwhelming. i not remotely comparing this except to say that after martin luther king was assassinated in 1968, the anger was so great that there were riots in 104 american cities and largely black americans and not all who felt that their government didn't do enough to create a

situation where king could be protected. this happens in american life but it is getting to be more of a problem than ever especially now with the number of guns in the hands of even seemingly emotionally disturbed people like that accused shooter yesterday. >> what does the country need to do right now to reverse this rise in political violence? when you think back to when we have had these moments in our history, how do we reverse things? and how do we lower the temperature? >> the one optimistic thing, or at least what we are talking about right now is our system was designed to self correct. when we have a horrible event like what happened yesterday, we say, maybe something brought this about. maybe campaigns are getting too

fierce or too many falsehoods flying around. maybe people are throwing around too many personal insults which is what president biden was talking about tonight. may be it will lead us to have the rest of this presidential campaign, at least this year that is more fact based and less vicious insults by one candidate against another, which it does nothing but destroy confidence in the system and leads people to feel so frustrated that they say the only way we can solve this is to be violent and go into the streets. >> thank you, michael, for being here tonight and i appreciate seeing you. >> when we return our next guest says the thing we need most right now is restraint. that conversation when a special coverage continues. coves

it will take time for the country to make a sense of what happened yesterday in butler, pennsylvania. today my next guest wrote about the power of restraint and in part he writes this, "people of america, especially its political leaders, but not them alone, must now amid the fury and distrust, resist the temptation to lash out, provoke, blame others and settle scores. there has been far too much of that already even in the hours after the apparent attempted assassination of trump. but there has been gracious and healing words including from trump's critics and opponent, president biden. joining me now is the contributing writer at the atlantic and also a senior fellow at the trinity forum. thank you for what you wrote and thank you for being here. the essay is called the power of restraint. how do you make that case for restraint in this incredibly

tense moment? >> thank you for having me on. i think the way you make the case is to put it in context which is america right now is a cauldron of hatred and antipathy and anger. i do think people have a sense of this happening and there are certain events like the attempted assassination of president trump that does make it more vivid. but i think president biden tonight made that case in his oval office address. i think the key is whether what is said is effective. you need two sides to do that. i think president biden has done what he needs to do. we will see in the next week and the next few weeks in the next few months during the campaign other donald trump will do it. i think another thing in a larger context is you have to

summon people to the better parts of our nature and remind people of what american ideals are and what life can be and that it doesn't have to be filled with this much anger and rage as it is right now. >> you write that it is possible to fight for justice without going to dehumanizing places. here is the problem. we are already in that place. so what is the path forward?'s >> lyrical leadership is part of that and you have to have political leaders who can make that distinction and argue with moral force about the importance of justice and they mentioned martin luther king junior in the previous segment. he is in a sense the avatar in the ideal of that and he spoke with enormous moral force but also with love and against violence. look, you don't get one like

him every generation and we haven't had one like kim since him but you do have political leaders who aspire to speak as he spoke or as lincoln spoke so political leadership as part of this. part of this also is the base of the party and political leaders react to what their base wants and what makes it such a complicated issue and such a tragic issue in a sense is a large part of america, i think, is energized and vilified by the hatred and anger. as long as that is the case, it is a tough hill to climb. but you have to have people who are willing to do it and we do have agency in a democracy. >> you did sort of nail it. our political leaders are responding to what people are asking for. so if people are asking for anger and asking for division, how to our political leaders

change that? >> i think there are a few things that have to occur. one is the public, the majority of the public that is exhausted by this that the intensity of the struggle and the intensity of the debates and the radiating anger just wears people out. they want to find something else. i think there is an exhausted majority. that is one thing that has to happen. you do need political leaders who are talented and courageous and willing to give a voice to honor and decency and peacemaking. and also unity. and they will do it even if it upsets some of their own base. you don't always get it. when you don't get it, you have a divided country. in some cases, you can get a violent country. but the rest of us have to insist that that is what is

done because it is best for the country and because it is the right thing to do. we have to keep making the case and hope that people will listen and follow and act. >> you are a speechwriter for george w. bush and you deeply understand the power of words in a time of crisis. what are those words? what is the message we need to hear from our leaders in the coming days? we are less than 120 days away from the selection. >> i think president biden touched on some of that tonight. i think part of it is to call people to the ideals of america and johnson once said people have to be reminded more than they need to be instructed. i think we need people to remind us what america at its best is and people have to give words to why decency and honor

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and -- yesterday was a tragic day in america. we saw the attempted assassination of a former

president and a u.s. citizen killed for supporting a candidate of their choice. there is somebody we want you to hear from before we end this evening. the emergency room doctor who jumped into action to try to save the rally attendee, corey comperatore. here is what the doctor told my colleague, tom llamas. >> i was covered with blood and my face was covered. so was my shirt and i had a usa shirt and trump hat on and i also had some brain matter on me. after that interview, and i was in disbelief and shock and after that interview and i give this guy credit was an army combat veteran. excuse me. after the interview he came up

to me and said, brother, there is blood on your face and i said okay and he gave me the water bottle and i washed it off and looked at my shirt as much as i could. and i handed the ball back and he took it and he stepped in and put his hand on my shoulder and said are you okay, brother? >> a very human moment on a very difficult day. that does it for me. thank you so much for watching and our special coverage of the assassination attempt on former president donald trump. it continues right after this break.

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