in the last 48 hours the race for the white house has changed dramatically after the assassination attempt on the life of former president ump at a campaign rally following th attack, president biden announced his campaign suspended all campaign advertising for the time being. we don't know how long that is for. the president canceled a planned campaign trupin fundraiser in texas today. vice president kamala harris canceled a planned trip to campaign in the state of florida, campaign event expected to focus on the ise of abortion rights. all those campaign events and all campaign ads have stopped for now. we don't know how long that will remain the case. president biden has spoken publicly about the shooting in number of times including a special prime-time address to the nation last night and in the interview, just now with nbc news' lester holt. president biden call for unity and as the nation to focus

political debates room policy and differing visions for the country. he told jiving him at the end as they were saying there thank youse and good nights, he wanted to have him back for another interview and they could talk about what really matters, talk about e issues. former president trump has reportedly changed his plans beach weatr republican national convention. saying he will now focus on, quote, ringing the country togeer. we shall see. at the same time, the former president has moved forward with his own campaign plans anuncing that ohio senator j.d. vance will be his running mate. of all of the purported shortlist contenders for trump's running mate, j.d. vance widely considered to be e most radical choice in terms of his ideological, his ace on the ideological number line and what he's ticulated about what he thinks the powers of the president are and should be and what trump should do .

he is talked openly about a president defying a ruling from the preme court. he has set explicitly they had he been a mike pence's position on january 6, 2021, he would've done what trump wanted and not what ke pence did which was t give trump what he wanted which is why we still live in a republic. j.d. vance is radical both in terms of what he thinks truck and do president at radical on policy. he wants a national abortion ban. he does not believe in exceptions even in the case where women have become pregnant as a result of rape or ansays. women violently abused by their husbands should not be allowed to get out of those marriages. j.d. vance is a choice and a half. it's 39 years old d is likely with this designation from donald trump is likely to be the future face of the public party, perhaps for decades to come.

joining us is former senator claire mccaskill, democrat of missouri. it's great to see you. what do you make of the choice of j.d. vance? >> it does not signal that he -- trump is trying to soften the edges. the only person more excited than j.d. vance this afternoon was vladimir putin. they dropped balloons from the sky. where putin was hanging out this afternoon because j.d. vance has even said he doesn't care what happens to ukraine. think about that for a minute. the republican party that i knew which was all about making sure that we were a beacon to democracies around the world, and we would not ever stand by and do nothing while they dog would roll into another country and try to change its borders by force. you know, j.d. vance said he really didn't care about ukraine. all the things you just listed, i would say this to the biden

campaign, think it's time to start campaigning again, like tomorrow. if you listen to ron johnson's speech tonight at the convention, if he saw some of the things trump said today, it's time. listen, we all are shocked and horrified by what happened saturday. as nicole said it's 115 days. i want to get in this and i thought the president did a great job pivoting and punching on the lies trump told in the debate tonight. i thought he has done a good job since saturday being a good guy. just being a good guy. a good normal guy, presidential, who wants the country to turn down the temperature. who abhors the violence in a political context. who reaches out to the widow. who reaches out to a guy who wouldn't even come to his inauguration. to make sure he was okay. that is the guy that got elected four years ago. i will give the president this. i thought he has been very

presidential and been the kind of guy people want to und instead of the chaos represented by the other side. >> do you think there is a fine line to draw or there is any sort of adjustment that needs to happen to bring the temperature down, as you said which is the president's words in his oval office address, but to keep the focus on trump? to be unrelenting and uncompromising in pointing out what the dangers are of trump and what's wrong with what he is proposing for the country and with what he would represent in his second term? can you do the latter while keeping the temperature cool and not worrying about contributing to what has been an increasingly radicalized and now we've seen violent environment? >> i think you can. i think you can do it by a little of what he did tonight with lester holt saying,

listen, i didn't sit quietly while people were attacking police officers and breaking windows in the capitol. you know, i have not proposed hardening people who have been sentenced to many years in prison for attacking police officers. i don't call them heroes and patriots. he can do the contrast without making it trump. he can be biden to in the contrast. the vice president can do the contrast. the campaign can do the contrast. the contrast is essential. it's really essential if biden is going to win the selection. he can do that without ramping up the vitriol, calling people vermin and without trying to demonize certain swaths of the american public that trump does on a daily basis. there's a big difference and i think most americans see it.

not maga people but most americans see the dierence. >> with trump choosing pants as his running mate, some of the other calculus is about whether or not he helps him win. i think he would help th govern the way you wants to with the racalism that hes endorsed and how trump shld conduct himself as president. how he should treat the preme cour how he should treat for rulings and how he shou treathe electoral process and this other stuff. i think of vance d his association with the heritage foundation and project 2025 and these other things isvery much about clearing a swap for trump to do anything he wants an office. is vance a good choice in helping him get elected? it strikes me that the republican pay's problems with women, which are perment problems, are probably significantly worsen with a choice like vance, not just on

abortion but for everything else he has reprented and disposed and said a creepy podcast the last few years about what he thinks the role of american women should be. >> yeahand you mentioned earlier which is stunning for erican women to hear. a ndidate for vi esesiden says stay in a marriage that is violent. stay in a marriagewhere you are being assaulted. this is not something that you say to get more votes in the suburbs of philadelphia or the suburbs of milwaukee. where they need help, that's where they need soften the edges. he picked someone who irresponsibly, immediately blamed biden for thhorrific violence that occurred at th trump rally. he picked soone who is a flamhrower, a bombastic guy, guy who will gothere and say things. he picked him because he was willing to say i will violate

the constitution, y not ratify duly elected electoral colleg people in a presidential election. he said althe things that trump wants him to say and he said with passion and trump thinks he will be lol no matter what, and he will never have a pence problem with vance . even though he does not like his facial hair. >> i think, i will say as much as guys with this type of personality ke obsequiousness and like supplication, they like people that will w down and humiliate themselves and do anything. i think he has enjoyed extracting what can from ted cruz after saying what he said about ted cruz's wife. trump enjoys that. that sort of personality trait overlooks the fact that you, by definition, taking on board people who have shown a willingness to change on a dime

and do a 180 and be a completely diffent person when it suits them. may that feels great when they're doing the 180 toward you, but there shown a propensity to turn on any principl anything they supposly stand for when it works for them politically. maybe it will turn against you someday. as a politician, would never turn it back on j.d. vance after what he's done the last couple of years. >> by the way, hewill always go for someone he perceives as being a stro man and exudes strength as opposed to anybody else. he sees j.d. vance as that kind guy. in the same way he sees putin and kim jong un and president she the same way. >> great to have us -- have you tonight. more to come on this unique night in american politics. am you been in politics a long time. would speak frankly. we are all adults.

has the shooting changed the trajectory of this race? >> i don't know and you don't know either. know either.

we are coming up on 9:00 local time in milwaukee, which will mark the start of the final hour of the first night of the republican national convention. you see the crowd going wild. we had a lot of images of donald trump on the screen over the course of the day but this is donald trump actually at the arena. the first few we have had of him with a bandage on his ear ter the assassination attempt on saturday which injured him. it's good to see that he is well and able to be paicipating in things unaided. we did see a shot of him coming down the stairs from his airpne. when he loved pennsylvania and went back to new jersey after the shooting, it's the first time i've seen him since and the first time we have seen the bandage on his ear. i don't think we are expecting

to hear anything from donald trump tonight, but he is at the venue and you are hearing the crowd in milwaukee react to that fact. the final hour the night of the convention is typically where we see, typically where we see the largest speakers of the night. tonight, one of them i'm telling you, i'm expecting, is someone i should describe as a model and only fans entrepreneur. she's the ex-girlfriend of anti- semitic rapper kanye west. once anti-trump but made a reversal on that in recent months. she will be speaking tonight and this final hour. it's an unusual choice. i am just listening what they are hearing on the floor as this awkward shop of trump is being broadcast on the screen

and is looking from side to side. it's an inspirational voice over here. i should mention it's also possible there will be a surprise of some sort before the night is through. donald trump is known for his love of dramatic moments, especially on television, so i wouldn't rule out something unexpected. something unexpected beyond him standing here in a hallway not speaking. i don't understand what's happening in terms of programming. can i -- the screen we are looking at, the people in the hall can see this as well? okay. >> please welcome the next president of the united states, donald trump.

>> ♪ >> this is donald trump in the hall, he is going up to the back seats. there is his son don jr., clearly emotional. obviously must've been scarily for the trump family narrowly avoided saturday night.

>> trump greeting tucker carlson the former fox news personality and members of his family. soon, his new running mate, j.d. vance. standing next to j.d. vance who in turn is standing next to the speaker of the use mike johnson. >> the n with a high-pitched

voice that you hear off-camera is lee greenwood who is there live singing the song and doing commentary along with it. >> the 45th president of the united states and soon to be the 47 president of the united states, please welcome donald j. trump. >> stephanie ruhle joins us, lawrence o'donnell is back with us. joy reid. the theme tonight at

the rnc is make america wealthy again? they are it's make america blank again. every night a approach to the theme this week. were you able to see president biden's interview with lester holt earlier? it does seem like the campaign is back on. i don't know if that means president biden's campaign will read up its ads. they had taken them down since the shooting and they canceled a bunch of campaign events. as president biden does appear to be pivoting back to normal campaign tactics and normal campaign messaging around his opponent, do you think the democrats have been sharpening their economic message? that's what the republicans are -- their convention. >> democrats need to.

they need to fact check republicans and literally say, show me the money. this first day of the rnc is the economy day in their messages, we are going to wipe out inflation. are going to clean it up and get prices down. we will get fiscal spending under control. what democrats need to say to republicans is, where? because donald trump's platform so far, he is saying i want to put 10% tariffs on and everything. that will balloon inflation. donald trump wants to extend corporate tax cuts possibly permanently. how's he going to do that? have you cerney single republican articulate how that will happen? republicans like to say democrats to the spending but when you stop collecting taxes and the coffers are empty, that's a problem. these corporate taxes they want to extend, there will be huge problems because it will expand our deficit. the issue for democrats, they've got a good economic message. inflation is a problem but they

have a lot of positive economic messages and the need to call trump out. what will you do? >> we shouldpoint out the first time convention watchers, and it's very unusual for the nominee to be there on monday night of the coention. this is donald trump coming back from that saturday assassination attempt to make it clear how strong he is physically at this point as a candidate. >> th were just yelling fight, fight, fight. >> for those who are not turf familiar, the way that that open was done will be very familiar to people who are familiar with the evangelical church. lee greenwood doing his god bless the usa which trump uses at his campaign rallies. it was done in a style, this is a focused message to evangelical voters because that whole open was in that style. in lifting donald trump up

essentially as god blessed. god saved him and he was touched by god in order to be saved over the weekend. that was a specific and focused message to evangelicals. >> conventions deal in images. this is a rather remarkable image of the bandaged nominee appearing for the first time with his new running mate. there is j.d. vance to his left. u see the bandage on trump right's ear. tucker carlson there. it's a deliberate choice not only for us to see the return of this candidate and thank goodness he is safe and was not hit worse in the assassination attempt, but very deliberate bit casting to lawrence's point, to show him seen but not heard. we don't usually see donald trump in this mode or any nominee at the convention listening and on stage and proof of life he's okay.

now, i guess, as you were commenting earlier, they were showing him waiting to walk out and sit down and watch him watch. >> i feel at previous conventions you had moments where you have the nominee appear so people can applaud. it's usually tightly scripted and its an appearance and you get excited than their on-again. this waan extended thing and showing him in the holding room was an unusual decision. credit tothem for mixing it up and for making us wonder what was going on. as part of the way you make people watch. on hilliard, correspondent vaughn hillyard is in the room, covering the rnc for us in milwaukee. we've been catching shots of him here and there is a camera pans around the room. can you tell us your vantage point from what you have seen and what the atmosphere is like now that trump is there himself in person? >> if i could, it was eight years ago that standing in the

arena in cleveland, ohio, with the republican national convention when the first time donald trump was seen inside the convention hall. in the middle of ted cruz's speech and that's when he said vote your conscience to which the arena booed loudly. donald trump in the middle of that moment came walking down the stairs. eight years later, he came walking down the stairs with a united republican party that was hailing him almost as a hero type status. at this point, donald trump has been impeached twice. he's been indicted four times. donald trump was found in a civil fraud trial -- trial and fined $350 million and these are not the folks you would necessarily driving hours to trump really like we saw in pennsylvania. these are the folks that are the activists of the party, their elected leaders. these are the folks who are the delegates to the republican national convention.

when donald trump camein with legreenwood singing which he always said every rally he has god bless usa be the intro song he walks out to. it's a defining moment of where the republican party finds itself. the chant you heard, we heard it earlier, when the convention began and it was fight, fight, fight. i had to check that is what i heard. that is what went donald trump was lifted onthe stage after being shot, he lifted his fist and said fight, fight, fight. with trumstanding there in silence, this whole hall chanting fight, fight, fight. this is 113 days out ere american politics finds itself. donald trump is the leader of not just a party but of a movement that's only been emboldened and grown over the years. one that is fervent and passiona at this moment in time. great many folks believe the election was stolen re four years ago. they e out for the revenge and to take back the white

house thatthey feel and believed it was owed to them. this is a moment for donald trump and his allies and deliver a message it's a republican party that will take back not just the white house but a senate and a house cause a lot of those folks, liz cheney, mike pence, the folks he when he talks are needed in the republican party anymore, and they're not here. this is donald trump's publican party in 2024. >> vaughn, you spent a lot of time, that's trumpism and the trump takeover of the republican party has been the media has been targeted almost as much as the political opposition, reporters, particularly with mainstream news organizations like ours get singled out and get targeted and put in unsafe situations and sometimes made the subject of political commentary by people when you're standing in the middle of the crowd. has it been any different at

all since you have been in milwaukee? and thinking of the aftermath of the events of saturday night, and wonderingenerally what the temperatures like in terms of how people are feeling abt reporters? >> reporter: that's a good question. it's not like itwas eight years ago over 12 years ago, if i may. as we stand in this convention hall, i think there is an acknowledgment that there isa clear disagreement over what realities, often times are. the one thing i can say is there's a united front, and the agreement the political violence is not a means to the enfor this country. there is a belief among the delegates i talked to that what happened on saturday could've easily, they could've been at that rally. there's an acknowledgment that in this country the political candidates and supporters should be able to go and hear from those candidates and that's one thing, the press, we are targeted. donald trump has made us a fixture in a way that has

propelled other new outlets, right-wing outlets, to become popular and to have growing mass reaches where frankly they do not necessarily turn into nbc news anymore. in a way they did just eight years ago. is still believe and i know from conversations there's a baseline belief among most that violence is not the answer and at the same time i know we have had conversations with those others told us the opposite. they have foreshadowed a civil war. that it could be on the brink. understanding this country is at an anxious and angry point. there is a reckoning that this country is currently going through because not only do they feel that their political candidate has been targeted and attempted to be put in jail but their election is stolen. it's not the same conversations i had with voters that i did eight years ago and with each passing year, it's only got more intense. >> on hilliard for us in milwaukee. thank you. ll be back with you.

what's happing right now, the final hour of republican tends to be the biggest eakersof the night. one of the big events of the night is the site of trump. the fact trump is there himsel the big news was the choice of his running mate because we are in the world that we are in. the other big news was one of the federal criminal cases against their nominee being dismissed by the judge he appointed in florida. that will be appealed, but it's incredible that that alone is happening on the day his vice presidential running mate has been announced. the arexpecting to hear a speech tonight from a woman named amber rose, not a aditiol fixture in consertive politics. it's rt of remarkable shis such a hi-profi speaking slot tonight. she is a mode and only fans

entrepreneur we. she's a reality tv person known for being the ex-girlfriend of the anti-semitic rapper kanye west when ump ran the first time in 2016, she was a vocal critic of trump. now she supports him. >> most importantly, i am a mother. my whole world revolves around providing for my children. keeping them safe and giving them the opportunity for a better life. that is something that unites all american parents. whether we are reblicans, democrats, conservatives or liberals, we all want a better country for our children. i am here tonight to tell you, no matter your political background, th the best chance we have to give our babies a betterlife is to elect donald trump president of the united states.

you may be wondering why i am up here telling you this. i am no politician and i dot want to be. i ar about the truth, and the trh is thmedia has lied about donald trump. i know this because i believe those lies. i am here to set the record straight. the first person i knew who supported donald trump was my father. i was shocked. my entire family is racially diverse. i believe the left-wing propaganda that donald trump was a racist. my father said, no, he is not. what are you talking about? when i insisted, he said prove it. so to prove my father wrong, i

did my research and looked into all thgs donald trump. people have to do their research . i watched all the rallies and i started meeting so many of you , his red hat wearing supporters. >> the reason this is awkward is because charlie kurt just oke just before this. one of the other big speakers for the first night. the thing about what's going on in the maga movement and particularly the younger side whicis in some ways by charlie kurt and is turning point. they are embracing the idea of biological determinism. the idea -- raised signs. the talk about red pill, that's become a term that is a way then it deserves.

what charlie kirk has been arguing that the civil rights act of 1964, not like a current civil rights act in 1964 was in s words a big mistake. luth king jr. was a terrible person. he's the one who expressed when he gets on a plane, the pilot is black, he assumes the plane is not going to be flown safely. when there is aviation disaster, he looks to see if there's black people who were involved. so amber rose, i'm sure she has done her research, but it's awkward to have the i checked and i'm sure nothing going on here is racist, happen right after they do the charlie kirk speech about how mlk is terrible in civil rights is a bad idea and black people shouldn't be allowed to fly planes because is not biologically capable.

>> lesson two weeks ago, donald trump was talking about black jobs. >> let's not forget he also did say the mayor of baltimore, republicans all said the mayor of baltimore just being black cause that ship to crash into the bridge. i have done my research on donald trump too. i did write a book about him. among the things i found in my research, amber rose has every right to do her research. i actual love her haircut. it's similar to mine so i wi say i respect her aesthetic choices. inmy research about donald trump, what i found c was sued by the nixon administration for refusing to rent to blacks. they would put c on the application for colored. he wanted to have executed the 14 and 15-year-olds who were accused of being the central park five of a white woman who they were later found innocent. he is somebody who is called countries that are run by black

people -- whole countries. he has said look at how they live when it comes to the way black communities rollout, michael cohen his longtime attorney. donald trump has also leaned into biological determinism, said president ama should not of been president because he codn't have been an american because his father's keny and said he walyg out his identity d wasn't even american. also, denounced muslims by trying to save president obama was a muslim even though there's thing wrong with being a muslim but he said there's something wrong. he said muslims should be allowed to come in the country. there should be fight club the brown people should beforced to fight in and put in camps around it up simply because they are migrants from countries that are brown. don't know what research or tools amber rose used to determine who isracist and who has racialnegative attitudes.

i am thinking might not be google. google is helpful. >> can i say, you mention the muslim ban. when donald trump in december 2015 said we are going to have a complete and total ban on muslims entering the country, that was a shocking mont in american politics at the time. he saida lot of terrible things. he talked about mexican immigrants being rapists. i remember being shocked it wasn't something that he pulled from the ether but read it off a piece paper. somebody who knows how to operate a prter had assisted him in writing down these words about banning people on the basis of the muslim faith, at religion from the united states, and he proposed is policy. he got into office, he was sworn in january and try to implement it. now, seas running in 2024, they tore apt the

republican party platform. there was one in 2016, it was weirdly pro-russian and nobody explained that. they abolished it in 2020 but brought back a brief all capitol letter version this time. one of the things arpledging to do again is ban people from the united states of their muslims. the idea you would make an antiracist, and he's not a bigot argument, for a candidate who is pledging to ban people from the country on the basis of their religionwho ju chose as his running mate, somebody who ha't passed any legislation at all. the only legislation j.d. vance has been involved in as a senator was a bipartisan real safety legislation with sherrod brown after the east palestine derailment dister. the thing has his name now that he has been pushing his anti-diversity initiatives. not all -- they all should be banned of federaprograms. >> i'm glad you mention that

because project 2025 which is written for donald trump, he would have written it because he doest care about policy, but the policies laid out for hiare almost insanely anti- black. they want implement the projt 1976 -- 1776 project, sorry, which was her answer to the 6019 project. essentiay banning any school that receives federal funds from teaching black story for many other point of view other than the all-time point of vi th as the founrs were saintssecular saints. they wa to take away deral funding and also ban title i, gender inequality in schools will be gone. they want to punish parents who have children whare transit tried to get the medical treatment. they want to treat them as criminals. evything about his platform is either and ty blach, anti- brown, anti-ltq and hateful. this is the program he would implement if he was president of the united states. that's project 2025 and the

people around him, after this terrible incident happened over the weekend, a member of congress who is a republican came out immediately and blamed the incident on deiand sa the fact there were women and black people in the secret service is e reason this happened. that's a member of congress who went out on the tv and said to the world that dei was the cause of an assassination attempt. this is where the republican party is. it's ironic they were able recruit this younwoman and she is racially -- i don't want to say she's black. i don't want to say thisblack woman. this whatever race she has claimed, she says she's not ack, but the press somebody whose whole career is based in black culture. shused to be on a show on bet. that's the reason mostknow who she is. sheet data one of the most prominent africaamerican rappers in the history of hip-

hop. her whole culture came from black culture even though she says she's not a black person herself. the fact she is the person they're using to try to recrt young people of color and say this the rson o is the endorser of nald trump who you should trust, when she won't even claim the culture thatbrought her to the table? i am dubious this will work. i don't know anyone who takes eir political cues from amber rose but if you you might want to duplicate doing your own research because you might not of done a thoroughly. >> when we look at civil rights, he was a president before. we know his record. we reminded people some of the. he had anti-civil rights record and judges anti-civil rights, anti-voting rights, so we know where donald trump is and we covered project 2025 which builds on the. in politics there's something interesting to observe. it's instagram play at the conventionit's a truth social candidate you are going get.

with instagram copy of the polish photos of amber rose and becca pearson joe biden has about 70 million instagra followers. everest has 25 milln instagram followers. she has a following or whatever you want to call it. >> would you describe her job as an influencer or fr- floating celebrity? >> i think she predates -- it's a great question. she predates the influencer era , as mentioned, she was romantically linked to kanye west who is a trump politica haful fire in terms of wh he does in politics e has a lae following d she us only fans as a model, entrepreneur. 25 million people is a t of reach. whether any of those people will choose a candidate who th vote for based on her or thspeech is an open question. instagram versus truth social because they are looking for

more polished, more pitch that may not relate to the actual plans in e past or the future that donald trump has on the issu that matter to people. i don't think it's a raom play. the only other point is, monday night is usually the night of thleast important speakers. because of the horric events of the weekend, donald trump is on the floor and feels larger. i don't know that anyone originally planted donald trum present on camera while amber rose made this pitch. >> he seemed to enjoy quite a lot. >> is not just making an instagram play. what i think is the most significant play is elon musk. elon musk tonit announced he ll begiving $45 miion a month to newly formed sur pac. that stress cash. think about, you have the man who controls formerly twitter and now ask goinouthere ying, i am openly supporting in a maive weight, donald trp. it was moments after the

assassination attempt, you saw elonmusk who controls twitter putting up the photo of donald trump on the platform. one of the reasons it's notewort to a major ceo in the a.i. space who said, elon musk's laser beam focused on donald trump, why? because the next president, is going to control the fate of a.i. which will change every bit of how we live. to me, yes, instagram play, amber rose, when you have someone like elon musk today make a public he's giving this kind of money over the next 113 days, that's major. could you have a shadow type president and elon musk getting what he wants from a donald trump? that's something to think about. >> if elon musk puts up $200 million is what he's talking about plus whatever he has already put in, and then you peter teal who spoke at the last republican national convention, he is an incredibly

radical and controversial figure in american politics to the point where women should not vote. we should form new countries based on floating shipping containers so we are constrained by the terrible tyranny of an american constitution. peter teal is as out there as you get. they gave him a speaking spot at the last convention. peter teal almost single- handedly created j.d. vance as a political figure. he funded him becoming a senator. he tried to do it in arizona at the same time and with j.d. vance an ohio and could not get there with lake masters. it didn't help lake masters thought the most and her underappreciated thinker in the you know life was a unabomber. j.d. vance was disciplined enough to not talk about his unabomber believes if he has them. peter teal created him in a lab. to have peter teal on the vice president and have elon musk on the president at a time a

donald trump as personal financial liabilities in the hundreds of millions of dollars that are not going to go away because he is president, we are looking at a situation. >> and harlan crow. >> think about the amount of government contracts elon musk has through starlink, not just the u.s. government, governments around the world. he is so tangled and he could be in a position re-sitting behind the scenes i getting what he wants from a sitting president. >> that's why i'm saying harlan crow. if you think of the way billionaires are purchasing supreme court justices, purchasing policies and want, purchasing the american government. elon musk is a person, his somebody who was sued by his own employees because they created such a racist environment inside of tesla that people couldn't even stand to work there. there were parts of the factory call the slave quarters under him. he said to don lemon when don

lemon briefly had the show that the way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. if you would shut up about it it would go away. he has opened twitter to nazi and extreme views to the point or a lot of reasonable people of gotten off because it's toxic and ugly. of course he would love to own a president. of course peter teal would love to own the vice president. we are seeing the purchasing of the american experiment. the purchasing of the american government. multiple branches and it's happening in front of our eyes. >> unless the voters choose otherwise. that still to be seen. we have more of our special coverage of the rnc next with j.d. vance from people who know him well. well.

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>> sean o'brien from the teamsters giving the keynote speech tonight. basicall trying to say that thing republicans are trying to get organized labor to say which is, we don't suppor democrats because their democrats. where avlable to you to. he's not endorsing trump but they are there to y the teamsters are available to the republican party. in stark contrast to the uaw, most high-profile union in the cotry whose leadership very strongly endorsed joe biden after joe biden need history as, thing, and arguably the most prounion president in history. he ma history when as a sitting president he stood the picket line adjoin workers striking, big three auto workers in michigan. that a successful strike that resulted in record contracts for the uaw. >> i mean, thing this stings a bit. i don't think it matters but it stings a bit of fear that

democrats and biden team. there hasn't been any more prolabor president aside from joe biden. >> sean o'brien has been telegraphing this for a long time. >> not a surprise but there's a difference between being available and speaking at the convention during prime time. i don't think it changes the support the joe biden has among labor unions across the country, t, you know, democrats never love it when a labor leader speaks at a republican convention. >> it's awkward because the republican party, uniformly antiunion. so thwhole right to rk thg. they are in wisconsin, the hallrk of the wisconsin republican party is stripping union rights. stripping the rights of unions and union members in that state. that said the republican party got a holdof republican state government in wisconsin.

for major labor leer to sa the republicans, they have a lot to offer our members anwe are open to eir endorsement given the recent history e repuican party, -- >> e teamers ha a bit of a hiory wi republans. theyndorse nixoanreagan. th's thone union at has alwaysbeen lurking er there. there an lot ofney stuf especily arnd thxon peri ofe teamsts. it was the st corrupunion possib in the couny's history at the time. >> i' never heard that before. >> you ght've heard of a guy med jimmy hoffa. not every union at their president's get murdered. they were so deep in with th mob, jimmy hoffa and those ys. and nixon at the same time. >> while we are watching this first night, the closing portion of thfirst night of the republican national

convention, we are geing reaction to the news that j.d. vance has been chosen as trump's vice presential running mate. i believe we have got a guest standing by from j.d. nce's home state of ohio. >> i went to bring in less waters his chair the democratic party in io. thank you for ining us this evening. i know there's a lot going on and big news coming out of your stay. let's start with the big news from tonigh you know j.d. vance and you followed his record and know about his record. what shou people know who are just tuning in to who this guy is? >> in the short time j.d. vance habeen re inthe political space in ohio, i think ohioans have learned something the rest of the country ll learn. in the selection, the country will see that ohioans know and they will know that j.d. vance is a go out of touch millionaire and shape shifter

who isbeen wrong for ohio and willbe wrong for e countr he will lie about s record and lie out his past. you will lie about the things he believes in. i am interested to see how the next few days unfo. >> let me ask you one specific piece of his record. he has in the past and in the present been for an abortion ban. he said it's up to the states and we know that means a lot of women out there will not have access to abortion care. talk about his record on women's rights and abortion and his history on that issue? >> lesson, what we learned in the senate caaign in 2022 is j.d. vance has dangerous stances about women's health and safety. whether telling women they should stay in a violent marriage or the sake of their children or how he referenced a victory for abortion rights in ohio in november last year as a gut punch. has been unabashedl antiortion and unabashedly anti-women the time is been involved in politics in ohio. i think ohio voters have senta

strong message not only to j.d. vance but any politician looking for about that we support abortion rights. voted to enshrine in the constitution by 13 points last year. anywhere this issue is on the ballot, anywhere caidates who oppose this issue on the ballot, votershave something to say. >> one of the things we've been talking about is his evolution. he called himself harry never trumper. he had many negative things to say about donald trump in the past what do you attribute his evolution to? is that what he believes? is it ambition? what led to this point? >> evolution is a tasteful way to say it. i think is ruthlessly ambitious and he will send towhatever he has to to get ahead. th's what we saw through 2022, and, frankly, his record so far as a u.s. senator leaves us ttle to go on for most of the 18 months he been in

office, he's been auditioning for this job. i think as a campaign unfolds, we will see a clear contrast between vice president biden d vice president harrison the record they have to run on. j.d. vance 18 mohs of nothing in the u.s. senate where he has done little to thing to support the people of ohio sent him there to be their vocate. >> if you don't mind if i jump in. it's rachel maddow and thank you for being with us. you said at the outset that he is a shape shifte he has not been a u.s. senator for very long. he has not been a public figure for a long other than a person a wrote a well-received autobiography. when you describe him as a shape ifter, do you mean ohio voters who didn't get what they were expecting when they got him, that he campaigned for had a public image that was different from what people realize they were getting once he was in office? >> that is completely right.

whher it was, he's famous for this book about appalachia and in appalachia, ohio, there still waiting for j.d. to be their advocate. to do any of the things he promised to make their lives better. he's done re silicon valley than he has for the people of palachia, ohio, or is never trumper background for the way he has conveniently tried to reshape his stance on his abortion. he is not honest or sincere in trying to remake himsf to whatever is convenient or politically expedient to serve his ambition. >> less walters, you have a big job ahead of you. a big senate ra with sherrod brown. thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> it's interesting. hearing the homestay perspective on him. ohio, we've all been in this business long enough that we have seen ohio go om a purple state to a red state.

sherrod brown is very hot popular and has a good chance, hopefully come up holding onto his seat. i think democrats think that at he has a chance to hold onto it. to see j.d. vance ride to the senate on the strength of that autobiography he wro. the strength the book he wrote, and then, essentially, be peter al's pet senator, to hear the state party chairs say he has been working for silicon valley ever since he got here. hasn done anything for the people here this movingbook about in terms of his background. that's hard to run from. that will stick to him. >> here is something about the ohio senator now vp candidate who wrote 2016 when he was comparing donald trump to hitler. he begins this particular piec saying if you saturdays ago, my wife and i spent the mornin volunteering at a community garden. in our san francisco neighbhood. [ laughter ] if that was kamala

harris's description of how she spt her san francisco weakens, okay, get it. it's stunning and this is the e piece in which he compares donald trump, not to hitler but to heroin. the heroin he said his mother was addicted to come in so many people he knew in ohio were addicted to. they re hoping that he would, as we just heard, help them and address their lives. the is j.d. vance saying donald trump will not do that. then j.d. vance becomes a senator and we are told he doesn't do it ther. >> a complete loss of empathy that some people thought he had for people who are not doing ll. for people who face addiction and been dismissed sort of by the elites, here he is doing the posite of sort of what

his book proposes in terms characteand consideration. someone in the pocket of silicon valley. sort of on the main side of the conservative aisle when it comes to that empathy that i think is partof that book. it's a repudiation ofthe emotional core of what that book explored. >> if you read hillbilly elegy, there is -- see the ryan howard movie, the movie upped the sort of empathy piece of it. there was a core piece hillbilly elegy that i think had a backound contempt. a sort of sense that people of appalachia have pathologies that often prescribed to people of color, honestly. i think that tinge of it, there were me reviews of it. i diread it. there's part of it that felt, he is saying on the one hand

that he comes from these people. that he has empathy for the people, but it's similar to the way ben carson the back slaps the people of detroit he grew up with them said they have pathologies i was able to rise out of and why can't they? there's an aspect in hillbilly elegy,'s tectable when you read it that makes it a little less surprising. he went to yale. he became a hedge fund guy. rick scott has a little bit of that who grew poor buseems to show a sort ofcontent for the people he came from i am not shocked that this is what he is. he is ambitious and decided the people he grew up around have too many pathologies to figu t whathe figured out and is willing to dispose of them for power. >> i love the republican cket is a real estate developer and capitalist. they got a case to make to the working class? >> i was going to say i think it's the evolution of the power of donald trump. not the evolution of the power but the rise of the power of donald trump maybe for being

nerous for a second because we watched interviews from seven or eight years ago, maybe th's where was a bit more eight years ag he can no longer be that person, if he wanted to rise in thparty and become the vice presidential nominee. he said, i am shutting the person, and any connection to appalachia and the working- class people i ran for, because i want to be that. i want to be in the oval office. >> i want to run th the guy that i think will be america's hitler. >> the families are sortof, they don'want to be part of it necessarily, t he's a man is married a woman whose parents immigrated to the country from india and he represents a country that wants to end the birthrht citizenship. is a lot of irony just like donald trump's wife is an immigrant but his most anti- immigrant that we seen in a long time. held those get explain to j.d. vance's wife and the family.

are they part of this new right that he's a vangua of? i don't know. we wi see. >> j.d. vance mas history tonight is the running mate on a presidential tiet who has said the worst things about his running mate. there is no one else -- the others who had conflict points, it was always policy. geor bush ying agan's ecomics r vood econics then putsit away and becomes a running mate. comparing your ruing mate to hitler and all these otr things that j.d. vance has said is ique in there's donald trump sitting in the row, half of the guys he's sitting with have expressed their hatred of him. is sitting with four guys, two, tucker carlson and j.d. vance, have expressed their hatred of him and donald trump knows that. >> that's part of his power. you ha me but look what i can make you do. >> that is what it is.

election he can take these people and control them and foe them to bend to his will. >> the downside of that, you do that with people of supplicant personalities but do it with pele asambitious as j.d. vance and tucker carlson, never turn your back on the skies. we will take a quick break. (man) mm, hey, honey. looks like my to-do list grew. "paint the bathroom, give baxter a bath, get life insurance," hm. i have a few minutes. i can do that now. oh, that fast? remember that colonial penn ad? i called and i got information. they sent the simple form i need to apply. all i do is fill it out and send it back. well, that sounds too easy! (man) give a little information, check a few boxes, sign my name, done. they don't ask about your health? (man) no health questions. -physical exam? -don't need one. it's colonial penn guaranteed acceptance -don't need one. whole life insurance. if you're between the ages of 50 and 85,

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debate and you said i don't think so, no. have you since scenic? >> i've seen pieces of it. >> the reason i ask is are you on the same page? are you seeing what they saw which was moments of, frankly, it appeared, you appear to be confused? >> lester, look, why don't you talk about 18, 28 lies he told? where are you? why don't the press talk about that? 28 times, it was confirmed, he lied in that debate. i had a bad bad night. i was not feeling well at all, and i had been -- i screwed up. >> it has the question because the idea that you may or may not have seen what some of these other folks have seen. >> i was there. i didn't have to see it.

i was there. seriously, you won't answer the question but why doesn't the press talk about all the lies he hato? >> we reported ma of the ises. >> noi have it. god love you. >> god love you. know you haven't. kind of a fight between president biden and lesterholt in the interview that aired earlier this evening. that happened today at the white house. we were talking about the campaign plans. we don't know how long the campaign pause is going to last from biden/harris. have taken their addown in the wake of the shooting saturday night. you said vice president kamala harris has a campaign event back on her schedule? >> she will do a moderated event on wednesday. she will do a moderated conversation with republican women in michigan. then another one i think on thursday in north carolina to talk about abortion and reproductive rights.

we know the president is happy with how she has been his emissary on that. it is a weak spot for j.d. vance. national public opinion and reproductive choice. the fact they are putting the vice president out at this moment on this issue as her opponent is making his grand debut. >> her with republicanwomen. >> including olivia who will be familiar to nbc viewers because they think they could make inros there. >> very interesting programming. the republican national convenon continues to thursday night in milwaukee and happening unr unusual circumstances in the wake of the shooting, attempted assassination, the nonominee donald trump on saturday night. the democratic campaign has taken down all its ads an stopped it'scampaigning. it sounds like maybe, as of wednesday, they'll beck doing campaign style events. that is one of the unusual things that is happening