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donald trump shows up bandaged after naming a first-term ohio senator as his running mate. we're live in milwaukee for day two of the republican national convention. plus, the fast-moving probe into the attempt on trump's life, including the very few clues left behind by the gunman. also ahead, case dismissed. a judge tosses the classified documents case against trump. the moves the special counsel is already making. and later, nbc's exclusive interview with president biden. what he said about the attack on his rival and his own decision to stay in the 2024 race. >> my mental acuity has been pretty damn good. i've gotten more done than any president has in a long, long time. ♪♪ it is 10:00 eastern. good to be with you. i'm ana cabrera reporting from new york. we begin with donald trump's first appearance at the rnc
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after the attempt on his life. a bandaged trump walking onto the convention floor, unusually otional, it appeared, days after being shot at at a campaign rally in pennsylvania. his appearanc coming hours after he revealed his vp pick. first term ohio senator jt -- jd vance. we haveew reporting on how he made that choice. joinings from milwaukee is nbc anchor katy tur, nbc's garrett haake, along with lanhee chen, former adviser to the rodney campaign, and the political reporter for "the boston globe." good to see all of you. garrett, what s it like when trump walked into the arena? >> i think it was definitely an emotional high point of the evening. obviously, this crowd had been, you know, listening to these speeches, listening to people talk about donald trump, talk about the shooting on saturday. the idea of him as this survivor, someone who almost
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touched by god, sort of the language being used by delegates on the floor. then to have himome out, kind of do the slow walk up here with the lee greenwood music playing. the people in the audience here certainly ate that up moment, and i think for a long of people around the country, seeing donald trump for the first time post-shooting with the bandage on his ear, reminder of just the kind of gravity of the moment that we're in and that everything we've experienced over this weekend was sort of real and tangible and an opportunity for folks to check in with this candidate after a couple days of him being out of the spotlight and not really appearing on camera, except for videos that we now know were basically shot so you only saw his profile. you never saw that injured ear until he walked into the arena last night. >> katy, trump has signalled he has maybe a new perspective on life following that assassination attempt. he's reportedly reworking his convention speech to focus more on unity. we're also learning about a new speaker tonight, nikki haley. do you sense a fundamental
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change in trump or his approach to this campaign? >> listen, you can't predict anything with donald trump. there have been moments in the past where people have said he could pivot, he could change, and he has not done so. then again, this is a situation where he had an actual brush with death. i was speaking to someone really close to the president a moment ago. they were saying that, yes, he is emotional. the entire family is emotional right now, just watching him walk out, as garrett was describing, was an intense, emotion until experience yesterday, especially to the lyrics of that lee greenwood song. that is the feeling in this hall right now, that donald trump survived something and that it was miraculous. i use that term intentionally, miraculous. as garrett was saying, that's what the people in this room believe. in terms of what we're going to see at the keynote speech on thursday, the reporting is that he's changed it. donald trump has said he's changed it in light of the events. he, himself, was emotional
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yesterday. he looked different than i've seen him in the past. the emotion on his face, i personally, having covered him as long as i have, have never seen that. it looked at moments like he might tear up. what that speech looks like, though, i think we need to not be holding our breath. donald trump is a consistent character. he's consistent with what he h himself, how he campaigns. so they might change some of the language in this speech, the tone might be different, but the content of his policies, i would not expect to change. >> lonnie, as we mentioned, nikki haley is expected to speak tonight. she and trump clearly aren't always on the same page. your thoughts on trump's reception at the convention last night, his plan to focus on unity, i wonder, just how unified is the gop right now? >> well, i think it's more unified than we've seen it at
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any point in recent history. i think if you look at the reception that the former president got last night, that moment was the electric moment of the night, overshadowing what was an eventful night. i mean, you had the revelation of jd vance as the vice presidential candidate. you had the head of the teamsters appearing at a republican national convention. when has that happened? really, the night was about donald trump's appearance and being able to see him. so i think that, frankly, there is a level of unity now, even amongst those republicans who voted for nikki haley. her presence tonight, she wasn't supposed to be here, signals the degree of unity that exists within the party now. >> garrett, the other big news, jd vance will be on the trump ticket as his vp pick. why vance? >> well, look, jd vance has proved himself to be a very effective spokesperson for the maga movement. that does seem to be the role that donald trump wants him to play, particularly with voters in the rust belt states like jd vance's ohio. i'm thinking about pennsylvania.
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here we are in wisconsin. michigan. where he could be a younger, slightly more eloquent spokesman for the policies that trump hopes will win over particularly young men, like jd vance, who is only 39 years old, to the trump ticket. one of the downsides to vance, and i think one of the things we'll see the biden team try to exploit, is his long history prior to his conversion, if you will, as a trump critic. listen to some of what jd vance had to say about donald trump the candidate back in 2016. i'll tell you why both parties think it is useful now on the other side. >> i'm a never trump guy. i never liked him. at the end of the day, do you believe donald trump, who always tells the truth, just kidding, or do you believe that woman on that tape? there is definitely an element of donald trump's support that has its basis in racism or xenophobia. i don't hide from that. i was skeptical of donald trump in 2016. but president trump was a great president, and he changed my mind. i think he changed the minds of a lot of americans.
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>> the biden campaign and democrats could try to show vance is hypocritical or opportunistic in his support, but the trump campaign and allies believe that jd vance gives a permission structure for other people who felt the same way about donald trump in 2016 or might even feel the same way about him now to come on board. >> they love a conversion story. >> that's right. >> they love somebody saying, i believed the media narrative about donald trump. now, i've seen the light. this works for them. the biden team -- >> they hope. >> they hope. the biden team is going to try to use those words that he said in the past. they've done that with others. i mean, there's been a whole conversion within the republican party toward donald trump since 2016. >> that's right. >> it hasn't dented trump's standing within republicans and republican voters. they're obviously going to go for more independents now. jd vance is going to be useful -- i was talking to somebody this morning within the campaign who said jd vance will be specifically useful in the rust belt states. he's from ohio. he wrote "hillbilly elegy."
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though he is a yale educated lawyer, he can camp out in michigan, in pennsylvania, in wisconsin, here in this state, and speak to working class voters in an authentic way. remember, in 2016, they were bleeding suburban women. they didn't think they could get suburban women back, but they thought they could break down the blue wall on the message of jobs, jobs, jobs. people were really skeptical about that at the time. what do you mean, this guy is going to be able to do something that republicans that have the been able to do in modern history? the democrats had that wall so firmly built. they believe, again, if they're able to take jd vance, authentic on the working class messaging, they can win again using that strategy, even if they are bleeding away independents, even if they are bleeding away suburban women. you know, they think they're going to do better with the latino and black vote, but this is a strategy that they're going to go full force on. >> james, i want to get your perspective on that, too.
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how did someone like jd vance, who as you heard, once called a never trump guy, who called trump himself cultural heroin, how did he turn into trump's running mate? >> the full inside route. obviously, trump is very -- it is important to him that they look the part. he thought mike pence looked the part. he obviously thinks that jd vance played the part. he got very close to the family. you know, there's reporting showing, even from nbc, that donald trump was inclined to go with doug burgum, the north dakota governor. then the family, particularly the sons, came to the former president and said, "no, no, you're going to do jd." he got close to susie wiles, a top campaign official. they said, here's the argument, and laid it out, particularly as it relates to the rust belt states. also, that he is young enough. i mean, donald trump kind of made a decision like he does a supreme court nominee. he finds someone who iseducated
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preserve the legacy for decades to come. >> on that, the reporting about, you know, his decision and maybe grappling with is it burgum, but his sons pointing him to vance, this was a different type of calculation this time around compared to last time around. nbc is reporting that backn 2016, trump looked to his daughter and her husband, the more establishment-friendly ivanka trump and jared kushner for strategic advice. this time, his red meat throwing sons have a more central role in his campaign. instead of a ng-time traditional republican like mike pence, trump chose the maga warrior vance. lanhee, is this trump fully leaning into his maga base here, and do you think picking vance actually brings any new voters into the tent? >> well, i think that the trump campaign recognizes that there is one pathway to victory for joe biden or for any democratic candidate really, and that is
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through those blueall states. i think politically, they view this as being incredibly add van hey advantageous. i'd think they also believe vance is the most articulate spokesperson forhe neopopulist, whatever you want to call it, perspective on issuesike trade and competition and other issues where the republican party has really changed from the republican party of mitt mney, the one that certainly was verynvolved in. so i do think that they view this both as a substanti savvy move as well as politically beneficial with respect to what they need to win this election. >> james, president bid was asked about vance during nbc's exclusive interview with him. take a listen. >> jd vance has adopted the same policies. no exceptions on abortion. making sure he supports the $5 trillion tax cut trump wants to give in the next administration. signing on to the notion of
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whether or not -- he says there's no climate change happening. he signed onto the trump agenda, which he should if he's running with trump. >> james, how do you think the biden campaign sees vance as a vp contender here? >> well, look, i think one tng they're obviously going to try to drive home are the positions where he does disagree with trump, which is more to the right. in fairness, when joe biden picked kamala harris he was a person who supported, y know, medicare for all. she supported the greenew deal. she's one of the first co-sponsors on that and obviously had that one big debate moment. look, this vice presidential debate is going to be extremely key with these two oldest nominees in u.s. history and these two figures, hars and jd vance,ossibly being the future of american politics. one thing'd like to say, though, is one thing that has changed in terms of the environment here in milwaukee, is while the polls he not really shown much movement from the dete, and clearly we
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haven't had any polling since the assassination attempt, but delegates here feel like this is in the bag. the replicans are going to win. they're wondering if evenhey can get a landslide. now, again, pling is not suggesting that is remotely true. we've seen the conviction of a former president that didn't move polls. we saw all the charges that dn't move polls. everything else that didn't move poll maybe this isn't going to move polls either, but i'll tell you, the environment here is that they're very jubilant right now. >> we have reporting that vice president harris reached out to jd vance after this announcement, congratulated him, welcomed him into the race, and expressed her hope that he would meet her for that debate that's been proposed later this summer/early fall by cbs news. thank you, all, for joining us. katy, you're back later this hour. garrett haake, lanhee and james, thank you for your insights. ahead, we'll take a deeper dive into who jd vance is and what he stands for.
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plus, the fbi has gained access to the phone of donald trump's attempted assassin. what are they learning about a ssible motive? also, a florida judge just dismissed trump's classied documents case. where it could go fro here. and later, president biden's exclusive sit-down with nbc news. what he is saying about his decision to stay in the race. we're back in 90 seconds. v with arexvy. arexvy is a vaccine used to prevent lower respiratory disease from rsv in people 60 years and older. arexvy does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients. those with weakened immune systems may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects are injection site pain, fatigue, muscle pain, headache, and joint pain. arexvy is number one in rsv vaccine shots. rsv? make it arexvy. liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. hi honey.
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welcome back. we have new details in one of the most critical investigations and mt troubling security lapses in american history. nearly three days after a 20-year-old gunman tried to assassinate donald trump, the fbi is still on the hunt for clues left behind that point to a motive. today, a fuller picture has emerged about the moments leading up to that attack, including interactions the gunman may have had with officers before he fired on trump and rally-goers on satuay. nbc's stephanie gosk has the latest from butler, pennsylvania. >> the shooter did not fire many rounds before he was located by snipers and killed, but were there opportunities missed to stop him before he got on that rooftop? the secret service says the building fell outside of their security perimeter, even though it was nearly 150 yards from the podium. they say the responsibility was primarily local law enforcement's. >> this morning, new questions
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about whether opportunities were missed to stop thomas crooks before he took aim at former president donald trump. >> take a look at what happened -- [ gunshots ] >> reporter: crooks was shot and killed by secret service snipers after he opened fire with an ar-15 style rifle, just 148 yards from the former president's podium. >> he's on the roof! >> we have people that -- >> right on the roof! >> reporter: nbc news learning crooks was spotted before he got on the roof. rally-goers on their way in noticed crooks pacing and behaving strangely near the metal detectors, according to four officials. they alerted local police who began pursuing crooks on foot. a u.s. official telling nbc news that during the pursuit, the officers told secret service they were looking for a suspicious person in the area. it's not clear when secret service was notified. >> look, there he is right there. >> reporter: but crooks did make it onto the rooftop. two senior officials telling nbc
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news he had a home depot receipt for a ladder when they searched his body. officials have not confirmed if that ladder was found on site. nbc news learning two local police officers approached crooks before he opened fire but couldn't stop him. the head of the secret service telling abc news, local police were actually stationed inside that same building. a secret service spokesman says the location of the roof fell outside of their central security perimeter and was the primary responsibility of local law enforcement. the department of homeland security, which oversees the u.s. secret service, now conducting a review. the dhs secretary acknowleding mistakes were made. >> when i say that something like this cannot happen, we are speaking of a failure. >> reporter: senior fbi officials tell nbc news they have cracked open crooks' cell phone but haven't revealed a motive. we are also learning from senior officials when they search the
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family home, they found nearly a dozen weapons. back to you. >> stephanie gosk, thank you. joining us now is retired fbi agent bobby shacone. local law enforcement and rally-goers were aware of this suspicious person at various points before the shooting. shouldn't that have put secret service on higher alert? was there a communication breakdown? what's your view? >> yeah, i mean, that's what the internal investigation needs to address, right? what happened? you hear the woman on one of those videos imploring the officer, saying, "there's a guy on the roof!" some people even saw a gun. why there was not a more robust response, why officers saw him or saw him with a binocular or optics, we don't know. that has to come to light. this is very important. we are now, once these conventions are over, we are on the homestretch of a campaign where there will be more of these rallies. there will be more of these type of events. we need to make sure that the secret service is up to the task of keeping them safe.
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>> right. so much of the scrutiny has been about securing that building that the shooter scaled. here was secret service director kimberlyhcheatle discussing this issue on "good morning america." >> that has a sloped roof at its highest point, so, you know, there is a safety factor that would be considered there. we wouldn't want to put somebody up on a sloped roof. you know, the decision was made to secure the building from inside. >> she also said that secret service was responsible for the inner perimeter and local police handled the outer perimeter, which is where that building was. is that all standard protocol? >> well, no. that building should have been within the perimeter, the security perimeter. why it wasn't is the question to be answered. mber two, that roof is pitched a little bit. there's not a very big pitch to the roof. it is not angled tt much. they're angled for snowfal uay in those areas. counter sniper teams and snipers
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prid themselves into getting in uncomfortable positions for a long time. that roof should have been inside the perimeter. it was close enough to take a shot. it was in a position to have direct line of sight to the stage. it should have been inside the securities perimeter. it should have been secured. we're hearing there was a team securing the building from the inside. you don't secure from inside. the threat comes fro the rooftop, having direct line of sight, and a short distance away from the stage. the answers that the secret service director gave in that interview are just not acceptable to many of us. >> moments ago, we learned a joint fbi dhs bulletin is warning of possible retaliatory violence. i wonder, how does that change the security posture looking ahead to, as you mentioned, other campaign events? there's the upcoming dnc. does this go beyond the usual uptick of threats we see around these events and how security is handled? >> absolutely. not only retaliatory, but over the weekend, we saw a massive
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amount of people saying his aim wasn't good. a schoolteacher made a facebook post about that. i can't believe the amount of people supporting this shooter and showing support for him and wishing he had been successful in his mission. it's coming from both sides. i think the danger exists, and the secret service better figure out what happened here quickly, be transparent to the american people, come out and say what the mistakes made were and how you're going to correct them moving forward. there's going to be a lot more of these appearances between now and november. >> thank you very much for offering your expertise and experience here. >> thank you. up next on "ana cabrera reports," taking on his critics. what president biden said in an exclusive interview with nbc news about whether he is mentally fit to run again. plus, dismissed for now? after being thrownut by a judge, what optns does special counsel smith have to revive his classified documents case against donald trump?
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case dismissed. donald trump scored a legal win with judge aileen cannon throwing out the classified documents case against him in florida, on the grounds that special counsel jack smith's appointment wasn't constitutional. smith has indicated he plans to appeal this decision. joining us now, nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. ken, lay out the ruling and the possible paths forward from
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here. >> yh, as you said, ana, jack smith indicated he will appeal this stunning ruling. his spokesman said in a statementthat, quote, the dismissal of this case deviates from the uniform conclion of all previous courts to have considered t issue. the justice department authorized a special counsel to appeal the court's order. in fact, ana, eight separate judg have rejected the claim that judge aileen cannon endorsed in this decision, holding that the special counsel and others have been unlawfully -- this special counsel and others have been unlawfully appointed. it is important to say that this ruling has nothing to do with the merits of the case. there's nothing in it about classified documents or obstruction of justice. it dismissed case entirely on technical grounds. in plain language, she ruled that special counsels exercise so much power, there either must be a law to establish the office, which there isn't right now, or that they should be appointed by the president and confirmed by the senate. what this ruling does is upends a system the doj has been using for 25 years. it's been upheld by the courts
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consistently through the time. it even goes back further than that to watergate, when the supreme court said it was okay to appoint a special counse judge aileen cannon said this was dicta, meaning it wasn't binding on her. now, we'll have to see what the appeals court does with this case now, doj has one other option in addition to appealing. they could have the u.s. attorney in miami re-file the case inflorida, but it is not clear they're going to go in that direction. >> ken dilanian, thank you so much for breaking it down for us. joining us now is former assistant manhattan attorney and legal analyst catherine christian. what do you make of judge cannon's ruling? >> well, it was very surprising. it was unexpected. what many of us expected, that she'd continue to drag out the case and allow the defense to keep filing motions, but it was really shocking. as ken said, eight different judges already ruled the opposite way. this has been the way you choose a special counsel for more than two decades.
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it's going to be going to the 11th circuit. i do not think they'll re-file it again because you'll just get probably judge cannon again. i think the special counsel knew this was not going to be tried before the election, so why not appeal snit. >> walk us through what the appeals process would look like and how long it could take. >> it's going to take a while. because it's also going to go to the supreme court. what do i mean by that? if the 11th circuit overturns judge cannon, donald trump's attorneys are going to try to seek cert in the supreme court. the supreme court will probably take it. but we're talking about next june or july, what happened with the presidential immunity case. of course, if donald trump is re-elected as president, both federal cases, i am certain, will go away. >> okay. so you mentioned the other case. that was my next question. how does this ruling potentially impact jack smith's other case, which, of course, is the election interference case?
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is there any connection or impact? because judge chutkan in that case also had looked at this very same issue and ruled differently. >> exactly. so it doesn't affect that case unless it eventually goes to the supreme court, and the supreme court does what justice thomas has said. in his concurrence, though no one brought up the issue, he's the one who said, you know, is the special counsel even lawful? which is, i think, what gave judge cannon, you know, the green light to issue her decision. so judge chutkan andeven other judges have ruled the direct opposite of what judge cannon has. it doesn't affect jack smith unless and until the supreme court decides that judge cannon was right. >> speaking of the supreme court, this cover of "the new yorker" is getting some eyeballs. it shows trump's likeness in place of allhe conservative justices onhat court. supreme court has really led to many legal wins now for trump
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lately. first, of course, the ruling that trump is protected with presidential immunity for official acts, which l to the delay in sentencing for his hush money verdict. now, you have judge cannon dismissing the classified documents case based, in part, on judge thomas' concurring inion in the presidential immunity case. how many more ripple effects could we see from those decisions? >> many more. elections have consequences. presidents are the ones who appoint federal judges. to the appellate court and the supreme court. donald trump appointed three. i think judge barrett is sort of a wild card because she doesn't rule as always expected. clearly, there is a 6-3 majority for the conservative position on the supreme court. >> catherine christian, as always, thank you so much for joining us. >> you're welcome. president biden sitting down with nbc's lester holt for his first interview since the attempted assassination of his electionopponent, donald trump.
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president biden talked about what he called a cordial call with trump just after the attack and defended his own political rhetoric. >> you called your opponent an existential threat on a call a week ago. you said it's time to put trump in the bull's eye. there's some dispute about the context, but i think you appreciate that words matter. >> i was talking about focus on. look, the truth of the matter was, what i guess i was talking about at the time was, there's very little focus on trump's agenda. >> yeah, the term was bull's eye. >> it was a mistake to use the word. i didn't mean -- i didn't say crosshairs. i meant bull's year, focus on him. focus on what he is doing. focus on his policies. focus on the number of lies he told at the debate. i mean, there's a whole range of things. look, i'm not the guy who said i want to be a dictator day one. i'm not the guy who refused to accept the outcome of the election. i'm not the guy who said he
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wouldn't accept the outcome of this election automatically. you can't only love your country when you win. so the focus was on what he's saying. i mean, the idea -- >> but have you taken a step back and done a little soul sher searching on things you may have said that could incite people who are not balanced? >> well, i don't think -- look, how do you talk about the threat to democracy, which is real, when a president says things like he says? do you just not say anything because it may incite somebody? look, i -- i have not engaged in that rhetoric. now, my opponent is eaged in that rhetoric. >> joining us now, nbc news white house correspondent monica alba. and "the washington post" white house beau chief. monica, on this issue of heated rhetoric, the biden campaign clearly doesn't think there's an equivalence between what biden
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has said and what trump ys, but do they think president biden effectively made that case last night? >> i think so, ana. they're trying to point to really, when you look at joe biden's history here, some of the most key motivating factors they argue for why he decided to run against donald trump in 2020 and why he is trying to lay out the case he is now,he biden re-election effort really says, look, joe biden has talked for years about the threats that can lead to political violence and the need to address those in this country. they're trying to really insist here that when you look at things like charlottesville, when you look at january 6th, that this president has been completely clear about needing to tone dow the rhetoric. but there isn admission that, of course, everybody needs t take a close look at why their words matter and how messages can be interpreted. i think everybody agrees that there have en, both for democrats and republicans, moments and key surrogates and
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people who have said things that haverossed the line. so the president is saying that he has always talked about this with clear context and wanting to put this in the context of how he has spoke out again anything that would lead to any kind of political violence, which he does certainly have a record on. then, also, really notably as part of the larger conversation, ana,n this interview with our colleague lester holt, we thought that most of this was going to be dominated before the assassination attempt on donald trump's life, on joe biden's own fight for his political future and candidacy. it was really notable tt when lester asked him who he listens to in terms of these deeply personal struggles about a potential path forward, about remaining in the race, his answer may have surprised some. take a listen to that exchange. >> who do you listen to on deeply personal issues, like the decision whether to stay in the race or not?
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>> me. look, i've been doing this a long time. the idea that i'm the old guy, i am. i'm old. but i'm only three years older than trump, number one. number two, my mental acuity has been pretty damn good. i've gotten more done than any president has in a long, long time, in 1/2 years. i'm willing to be judged on that. i understand, i understand why people say, god, he's 81 years old, whoa. what's he going to be when he's 83 years old or 84 years old? it's legitimate question to ask. >> we knowhere are, of course, advisors who are influential in his thinking, his close fily members certainly have a lot of input, as well, but notable the president is trying to sen this signal, perhaps to some democratic lmakers, to others who are waiting to see if they'reoing to publicly call for him to exit the race, tt it doesn't really matter what you think. it's what he's trying to tell them. ultimately, he is going to
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decide, and he has decided he's going to continue with this election. ana. >> monica alba, thank you for the reporting. ta lou, president biden has done several interviews since the debate, and since the shooting, there haven't been additional calls for him to get off the ticket. >> there was a truce after the assassination attempt against trump's life, a pause from the democrats and also a pause on the calls for biden to jump out of this race. everyone sort of decided to take a breath and take some stock of where we were as a country. now, we are hearing behind the scenes, there is a renewed effort to look at how to nudge biden out of the race by a number of democrats close to the white house who have seen the race, have seen the polls, and don't see a path forward for biden. as monica said, it was very notable that biden said he listens to only himself on these
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critical issues, because there are a number of democrats, as we reported in "the washington post" today, that are looking for more choices to be able to influence biden. talk to him about the real poll numbers, not just the poll numbers he is getting from people who want him to stay in the race but poll numbers that showcase this case seems to be getting away from him. i wouldn't be surprised if we start to hear more democrats publicly and privately advoting for biden to get out of the race in the days ahead. >> as that is happening, perhaps behind the scenes at the president biden is pushing forward with the campaign. in las vegas today to campaign. what do yousee, or what do we know about the next stagef the campaign for him? >> he wants to continue to showcase his vigor. he talked about his age in the interview. he's been doing multiple interviews in recent days, multiple events, speaking to the base of his party. in the polls, those who form the
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base of the democratic pty and biden's voting coalition, including black and hispanic voters, he's going to be speaking to those groups. going to the naacp conference today. tomorrow, he' be speaking to a hispanic civil rights group. he is going to be spending time talking about policy issues. he wants this to be a contrast between himself and trump on policy. it's been difficult for h to make that transition from focus on the debate and his age. he's going to be doing a flurry of events as the republican national convention takes place, trying to showcase that his policies are more popular than the policies espoused by project 2025 and some of the things that the republicans are talking about in milwaukee. >> taluse, great to see you, my friend. thanks for joining us. next on "ana cabrera reports," he wrote a bestselling book, flip-flopped on trump, and now he is the first millennial running mate on a major presidential ticket. but who is jd vanceally? what's behind his meteoric rise? we're digging deeper as he's
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already making waves at the rnc. >> i think he brings to the table a common person. >> we need someone for the future. we need someone to carry this mantle of america first agenda.
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it's piled high with tender beef that's slow cooked and smothered in tangy memphis style barbecue sauce. it's no fuss, no muss. just tons of flavor. the best barbecue beef is only a togo's. try one today. donald trum oicially has a running mate, b who is jd vance the millennial? ohioenator with two years in office. he rose to prominent with his best selling memoir, "hililly elegy," growing up in appalachia he is kwn for isolationolationi staunching opposing aid to ukine, denying the results of the election, and pushing for a
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national abortion ban. now, he seemso be softening his stance on abortion in line withis new boss. >> the democrats completely twisted my words. what i did say is that we sometimes in this society see babies as inconveniences. president trump is trying to identify some of the reasonable compromises so we can tone this thg down, find some reasonable pro-life policy. you have to believe in reasonable exceptionsecause that's where the american people are. you've got to let individual states make this decision. >> my colleague, katy tur, is back with us now from milwaukee. the biden campaign is already labeling vance's personal views as extreme. but how do they align with trump andhe maga movement at larg >> well, they're going to align mo thoroughly with donald trump now. lara trumpas speaking to our colleague, garrett haake, the othe night, and -- or last night, and garrett haake brought up jd vance believes in an outright ban. that's what he was runni on for the ohio senate. lara trump, who is the co-chair of the rnc, said, well, donald
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trump is atop the ticket. the top of the tict is where the policy stands. jd vance will align himself entirely wit daltrump. even before, you know, the abortion comments he me where softened it a bit and talked about it being up to the states, he was already very much aligned with donald trump on policy. economic policy, immigration policy, and foreign policy. one of the staunchest opponents in the senate to giving more aid to ukraine. he believes the borders should be shut. he's aligned with donald trump on that. that's the big theme, by the way, today at the rnc. it's all about immigration and, in their words, keeping america safe. abortion, i mentioned, tariffs, economy, they are in agreement on this. remember, jd vance is from the rust belt, an area ravaged by globalization, or they're arguing ravaged by globalization. donald trump wants to impose a 10% tariff on all goods coming into the country. economists said that'd likely
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raise prices for a lot of americans, all americans. jd vance and donald trump believe staunchly that the economics of this country should be -- should prioritize the u.s. also, by the way, desantis, if you can look behind me, is practicing his speech right now here at the rnc. desantis is going to be speaking tonight along with nikki haley. nikki haley was a bit of a surprise. remember, she wasn't invited to this convention after the primary contest. desantis has been on the schedule for quite a while, but this is part of what the rnc and the trump campaign are saying they're trying to do in light of the -- what happened on saturday. they want to push for more unity within the party, more unity within the country. so by inviting desantis, who ran a hard fought campaign against donald trump and was critical of him, and by inviting nikki haley, who also was quite critical of donald trump, they're trying to project this sense that the party is in line. we can all come together despite our differences.
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they're going to try to pitch that to the broader person public, too, ana. that's a much harder sell, certainly among democrats who are not going to buy it. but are there some softer independents out there or moderate republicans who don't like donald trump, who see this as an opportunity to perhaps change their mind? >> right, katy tur, good to see you. thanks for the update about the speeches we can expect tonight as we look ahead to the rnc. we also continue to find out more between this partnership of donald trump and his vp pick, jd vance. few clues left behind by president trump's would-be assassin. what we're learning about who he was and what may have motivated him.
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shaquille brewster joins us now. what are we learning about him? >> reporter: you continue to hear him described as a loaner and quiet kid, and somebody described him as a regular target of bullies. yesterday we heard from his guidance counselor, somebody that knew him all four years of high school and would meet with him twice a week during the school year, and he was described as smart and stayed out of trouble and would eat lunch alone but would like to keep to himself generally. outside of the home, many neighbors are either saying they were unfamilr with the shooter and the family or saying they are not really wanng to talk. i want you to listen to what conversation, wha one neighbor told our affiate station just yesterday. >> he would just walk around the neighborhood b himself. the only thing that was odd is he kept to himself.
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didn't talk to people much, which i found odd because i like to talk to peopl and make conversation, but n everybody does. he kept to himself. >> reporter: all of this you can bet will be part of that overall investigation as the fbi tries to not only determine what the shooter's motive was in this incidents, but also tries to piece together a timeline of his acons in the hours and days before the shooting. the fbi received over 2,000 tips and conducted nearly 100 interviews and are still collecting photos and videos from the scene from the folks who were there witnessing that assassination attpt. >> i am looking at new reporting we are getting. stay with me f a second. on the 13th, he purchased 50 rounds of ammunition for a n, and this is a new retail that
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has been revealed by investigators as we continue to search for answers in all of this. we are learning about what happened and the events leading up to the tragic moment. thank you so much for your ongoing reporting. keep digging for us. that will do it for us. e you tomorrow, same me, same place. you can catch our show around the clock on youtube and other platforms, as always. i am ana cabrera reporting fm new york. josé diaz-balart picks up our coverage, next.
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