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it is good to be back with you on this second hour of "chris jansing reports." at this hour, donald trump's choice for vice president gets his starring moment. how will j.d. vance introduce himself to a national audience? the new reporting on his rnc speech. plus, after months in prison, former trump adviser, peter navarro gets a prime time speaking slot, a preview of that and what else to expect on a big night three. demanding answers, lawmakers prepare for briefings with the secret service about how a 20-year-old with a gun managed to take a shot at donald trump as new reporting raises new

questions daily. and breaking news, the dnc moving forward with its plan to virtually nominate joe biden before the convention. the backlash from democrats who say that should be ditched given concerns about his candidacy. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. we begin with nbc's vaughn hillyard, he has new details on j.d. vance's speech tonight. what are we going to hear, vaughn? >> we should expect a heavy biography story from j.d. vance, introducing himself to the country. he's 39 years old. he's only been in the u.s. senate for about 18 months. elected back in 2022, of course, with the donald trump endorsement, and folks will know his story through "hillbilly elegy" he chronicled growing up in poverty to a mother an opioid addiction.

so much of his explanation of how donald trump first became elected in 2016 led him to a place of being able to echo effectively donald trump's message and convincing the former president and republican nominee in 2024 why he should be his running mate. you should expect to hear him talk about trade and the reason that tariffs are good for this country, to focus more on increased manufacturing and jobs in the united states, the need to address the fentanyl crisis, the need to have stricter immigration enforcement. you should listen to this from j.d. vance last night on newsmax because i think it's a good indication of where he sees himself on this ticket. >> i think that fundamentally, president trump has changed the republican party, and i think he's changed it for the better. you see a lot of new people coming into the party, blue collar folks, working class folks. the basic idea is simple, america has to be a

manufacturing power house if it's going to be anything else. if you don't make your own weapons and pharmaceuticals, you can't do anything else. and you can't employ good workers unless you're building your own stuff. >> reporter: over the last two years, j.d. vance that has consistently made the case the greater focus of resources in the u.s. should be made domestically. and for example, that includes cutting off aid to ukraine that the focus should be here and not overseas, and that is a message that he believes will resonate with the great share of the american electorate. >> vaughn hillyard, thank you. in the meantime, donald trump's former white house aide peter navarro is going straight from his release from prison to the rnc stage. nbc's ryan reilly is tracking this story for us. get us up to speed with what's going on with navarro. >> peter navarro served the four month sentence, his release date was today. he's going to be headed to the

rnc after the release. he's going to be headed over there. it comes at an interesting time. so far at the rnc convention, we have seen very little to no mention of january 6th itself. that's not something that is really been something they have been pushing forward, even though that's been something that donald trump that be talking about in his speeches, and even playing the january 6th choir music at the beginning of some of his rallies. so this will be sort of a question of how much focus is there going to be at the rnc to remind the american public of january 6th itself, even though they're going to talk more about what they claim is a weaponized system of justice against january 6th defendants, and against trump aides like navarro, whether or not that's just going to remind people in general about january 6th itself is an open question, and what we have seen so far on social media is that donald trump jr. actually plans on interviewing navarro. interviewed the day before prison and tonight i'll interview him on the day he got

out, live on rumble from the rnc, calling peter navarro, a maga patriot. and remember, it was peter navarro's report and some reporting about that that originally set off really this organizing faction right before january 6th because that was donald trump promoting that on december 19th, 2020, just days before the january 6th attack. that's what he was promoting, a report from peter navarro about election conspiracies. >> ryan reilly, thank you for that. meantime, about an hour from now, lawmakers on capitol hill will be briefed by the secret service and other officials about the attempt on donald trump's life. nbc's julie tsirkin son capitol hill. there's breaking news from the speaker of the house, one from the chairman of the oversight committee. tell us the latest. >> reporter: exactly, chris, that briefing that you mentioned that's going to happen in an

hour, first with members of the senate, then with members of the house will include the secret service director, kimberly cheatle, who the chair of the republican oversight committee issued a subpoena to. the lack of transparency and failure to cooperate with the committee on this pressing matter, referring to prior letters he sent to cheatle, this calls into question your ability to lead the secret service and necessitates the subpoena, compelling before the oversight committee. comer already planning a public hearing on monday just a couple of days from now wants to hear from cheatle, also the head of the fbi and officials from the administration. this all comes as you preview just before the briefing calls, the first time that all members of the house and senate, though virtually because they are on recess are receiving this kind of unclassified information all together over the phone. i want you to take a listen as well to something else you previewed, chris, the speaker of the house, mike johnson, saying

this this morning. watch. >> i'll be setting up on monday a task force, a special task force within the house. the reason we're going to do it that way is that is a more precision strike. there's not a lot of procedural hurdles. it will be republicans and democrats to get down to the bottom of this quickly so the american people can get the answers. >> now, in the wake of that assassination attempt of the former president, johnson also this morning making some news calling on kim cheatle, the head of the secret service to offer her resignation. the republican-led panels will be pressing members of the administration but you also have democrats that are equally just as frustrated and want answers as to what happened, how that could happen during the former president's rally on saturday night. the administration on the other side of pennsylvania avenue also calling for answers, chris. >> julie tsirkin, thank you for that. more controvert for the democratic national committee

which announced plans today to announce joe biden ahead of the convention. nbc's aaron gilchrist is reporting from the white house. aaron, explain what's going on here? >> reporter: it's gotten confusing here. our team on capitol hill learned about a letter that was going to call on the dnc not to rush a virtual roll call vote for the nominee for the democratic party ahead of the convention. we learned later in the day today that the dnc sent a letter to leadership from the rules committee at the dnc that said that there will not be a rush to a virtual roll call, it won't happen before the beginning of august. now, back up a little bit here. we know that the dnc had said the roll call vote that actually nominates a person for president was going to happen around august 7th. that because of a law in ohio, the dnc was going to do this virtual vote, instead of doing it at the convention, when it begins on august 19th. so that was sort of baked in already over the last couple of

months here. while there had been this concern that the dnc was going to try to rush that vote, to make it happen potentially as soon as next week, in order to get the nomination in for president biden. at this point, the dnc is saying that that is not the case. it will not be before the first week of august, that there will be in roll call vote that happens. this all obviously coming after president biden had this bad debate performance, and there have been calls for the president to step aside, to exit the race for president, and let someone else take over that role. we know the president did an interview in las vegas with b.e.t., and he was asked in particular during that interview, is there anything you would look to to say if i see that, i will reevaluate that, meaning reevaluate running for president again. i want you to hear part of the president's response to that question. >> if i had some medical condition that emerged, doctors came to me said, you have this problem, that problem. but i made a serious mistake, in

the whole debate. >> reporter: and as this conversation is happening, chris, we have now learned that prominent california representative adam schiff who's running for senate in california now is calling for president biden to exit the race. he said that he has serious concerns about whether the president can defeat donald trump in november. the response from the biden campaign has been one that's pointed us to things that the president himself has already said, that he's in the race, that he's in it until the end. he intends to win in november, and he wouldn't be in the race unless he thought he could win and continue to govern, chris. >> aaron gilchrist, thank you. in 90 seconds, what undecided voters are saying about the race for president in a critical wisconsin county that has a long track record of picking the winner. >> what is it going to be that helps you decide? >> a coin. >> reporter: say that again. >> a coin. r: say that again. >> a coin. are now being analyzed

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call the number on your screen. today we're getting a new snapshot of the issues that are top of mind right now for wisconsin's undecided voters. just a couple of hours north of the rnc in milwaukee is door county. it's a bellwether, voting for the winning presidential candidate in every election since 2000. so partnering with nbc green bay affiliate wgba, our jacob soboroff went there to find out what matters to undecided voters there this year. >> welcome to door county,

wisconsin, around here people call it the cape cod of the midwest. check it out, it's not hard to see why. over the course of the last six presidential elections, voters here have accurately picked the president every single time, and that means three republicans and three democrats. >> my grandparents came over from norway, and then he said on tugs. >> reporter: tom and sue own melody charity orchard. >> two native wisconsinites, two door county natives with cherry pickers in their family meet each other. how has it changed over the generations you have been involved in cherry picking. >> always like a wave. some years you make great money, and it goes down. >> reporter: what do you think, the people who are running to be our leaders on both sides of the aisle need to know about what life is like, what really matters out here? >> what really matters is that people need to work. you know, they just need to work. >> reporter: what work means on a cherry farm is much different than when tom and sue's family started in the business. >> this is what changed the

business. >> first time on a cherry tree shaker. here we go. ready, tom? >> yeah, you just come on up. >> here we go. >> reporter: the shaker now does the work of what used to be hundreds of migrant farm workers. turns out it's a pretty good place to talk about politics too. it seems like people here in door county are kind of reliably in the middle, it's a purple place. >> i never said i was a democrat or a republican. i don't do that. >> reporter: what is it going to be that helps you decide? >> coin. >> reporter: say it again? >> a coin. >> reporter: really, is it like that? are you going to wait until the last minute or when are you going to make up your mind? >> when this is done. >> reporter: when cherry season is over. >> at 15 years old, you were picking cherries and apples on the farms here in door county. >> in door county, ye. >> reporter: she was born in texas and as a young person traveled the country working on farms. since returning here, she spends

her days helping immigrants. >> there's so much population we got last year from nicaragua, honduras. >> reporter: immigrants are a danger to the community. what is it like to hear that? >> it hurts me. when these people are working out here, hardly rest one day to do their families. they're not taking jobs away. >> reporter: have you figured out how you're going to vote this time around? >> i haven't made up my mind yet. >> reporter: democrats, republicans? >> i've always been a democrat, always. >> reporter: yet this year she's uncertain. you feel like politicians understand the way of life out here? >> no, they don't. they haven't lived in these people's shoes. ooifr been through that already. >> reporter: you lived that life. >> yes >> reporter: and now you're trying to help people living that life themselves. >> yes. >> reporter: jacob soboroff, nbc news. hire with me in studio, tim miller, former communications

director for jeb bush, 2016, and msnbc political analyst. look, those are two different people who i think represent groups. some folks are skeptical there are any undecided voters. number one, there are people who aren't paying close attention yet. they actually have lives that occupy them. tell us about it. we don't know anything about that. the other, you know, who has real life lived experience and has to go through what she considers to be a complicated analysis. so what do you make of what you heard there? >> first off, these people do exist. that's not a fake for the tv, and at the bulwark, we do focus groups of undecided voters. sometimes people that are political obsessive, there are still split ticket voters. we're polarized. it's not the same as the 90s. but there are enough in a close state like wisconsin, which has been the tipping point state the last two times that really

matters. and right now, what i heard from those folks is they don't really feel like, i think, either main presidential candidate is speaking to their actual needs. and what you see in the polls time and again right now that is a warning sign for joe biden is i would have loved for jacob to ask because of my assignment next time, have they decided on the senate race yet because tammy bald win, who really is wisconsin and has been an advocate for the working class, she's doing way better than joe biden in a lot of polls, and i think you're seeing that in a lot of plays. you hear from democrats, why haven't democrats decided yet? whether it's inflation or age or whatever, they're not sure about joe biden. >> the last time jon tester in montana, i drove south to north, stopped at diners, gas stations along the way, talked to people. love jon tester, we're never going to vote for a democrat for president. having said that, look, the rnc,

they're trying to be more worker friendly like. they're courting unions, which has been joe biden's stock and trade. can they make that argument, and can j.d. vance help them make that argument. >> they're trying. and i think they can do so on the edges. the problem is they don't have a great story to tell on this point. and trump was in there for four years, right, and he can talk about oh, the economy was good until covid happened. but he didn't advance proworker policies. joe biden has the better story between c.h.i.p.s and the infrastructure and the investment in the communities. j.d. vance, while his brand is speaking to white working class voters, it's really kind of an inch deep. he didn't perform that well in ohio in the midterms. the governor, mike dewine who's more of a traditional old school republican, moderate republican, way out paced j.d. vance in ohio, 11, 12 points he did better than them. i don't think there's a ton of evidence that j.d. vance helps with the working class white voters in the upper midwest.

they're going to try. we'll see what he has to say tonight. . >> immigration huge for republicans. last month the numbers of migrants crossing the southern border were at the lowest level since january of 2021, a lot of new policies put in place by the biden administration, and yet you have a woman who spends her days and i'm guessing her weekends as well working with immigrants. she's not sure who she's going to vote for. i wonder in the end, in states that have large populations of immigrants who have businesses that rely on migrant labor, it's a complicated issue. we have been talking about it for, i don't know, a hundred years at least. how that's going to play, and how it's going to play for republicans when they talk about it tonight. >> it is complicated. republicans have an easy story to tell. the democrats have a complicated story to tell. >> nuanced! nuanced, and the numbers are moving that direction. that's good. that's a good element of the story that joe biden and kamala

harris can talk about. i wish they would go on offense a little more. the democrats scared of this issue, talking about the mass deportations. i think a broad swath of americans don't like illegal immigration. also a broad swath of americans don't want, you know, cops going into parties and taking out people brought here as children and sending them back to countries they don't know. that's not popular. for the democrats to combat an aggressive republican message on this, i would like to hear more offensive messaging from that on that. >> tim miller good to see you. >> thanks, chris. president biden face ago critical question, how do you turn down the temperature when you're running against donald trump? >> you peacefully protested george floyd's murder, donald trump called for the national guard to go after them. what in the hell is the matter with this man? .

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. vice president kamala harris in michigan talking about the attempted assassination of donald trump. >> it was a heinous, cowardly act. my husband doug and i are thankful he was not seriously injured. that day, as soon as we saw what was happening, we said a prayer for his well being, and our thoughts immediately turned to melania who we have met and their family. the bottom line is no one should have to fear for the safety of a loved one because they serve in public office. our heart goes out to the family of corey comperatore, a true hero who died protecting his family. and doug and i are holding them close in our hearts. we are wishing those who were critically injured that day a swift and full recovery.

and we are thankful to the united states secret service, the first responders and local authorities. the united states of america, i believe, is the greatest democracy the world has ever known. yes. [ applause ] but in the after math of this weekend's shooting, one of the questions we now confront is about the way we should engage with one another in this campaign. on sunday evening, our president joe biden issued a call for unity. and there must be unity around the idea that while our nation's history has been scarred by political violence, violence is never acceptable.

there can be no equivocation about that. [ applause ]. at the same time, the hallmark of american democracy, the hallmark of any democracy is a strong competition of ideas, policies and a vision for the future. and just as we must reject political violence, we must also embrace a robust discussion about what is at stake in this election. the surest way to reaffirm the strength of our democracy is by engaging in a vigorous and civil exchange of ideas. and one of the ideas and one of the principles that is at stake in this election is the issue of reproductive freedom. and that is why i am here today

to discuss that topic, and i look forward to our conversation. thank you all very much. >> vice president harris, who is going to talk to some other folks there, including senator debbie stabenow and the county sheriff. this was a long ago planned event. we're hearing her speak about the attempted assassination of donald trump, calling it a heinous, horrible and cowardly act. she says she and her husband doug prayed for him, for his family. no one should have to fear for the safety of a loved one, she said, as a result of political violence. violence is never acceptable. and yet, she is pointing out that that doesn't mean that there couldn't and shouldn't be what is a hallmark of american democracy, which is a frank debate, an exchange of ideas over very important issues that are out there, a robust discussion of the stakes.

vigorous and civil, she says. nbc's mike memoli is reporting from las vegas, where president biden will be speaking later today. also with us, symone sanders townsend, spokesperson for vice president harris, and cohost of msnbc's "the weekend," i think it's worth pointing out, mike, look, there is no one in a high profile position in public life these days, and it's unfortunate but it's true, who doesn't know what it is to face threats. too many know what it is to have someone close to them have an unfortunate situation or a dangerous situation as we saw with nancy pelosi's husband. but i think one of the things that vice president harris just laid out is to answer a question that a lot of people have had, can you run a campaign, a robust campaign, fight strongly for your ideas and still unite the country? she clearly, mike, and the president believe that you can.

>> yeah, that's right, chris. this is a very difficult moment for the country, no doubt about it, the attempted assassination of a former president of the united states, but also a candidate for president, and this question of how quickly after saturday's shooting that both campaigns could get back to the campaign was one that i know both were wrestling with. i think it would have been an even more difficult conversation if not for the fact that the republican national convention was scheduled to begin on monday. you did see the president cancel a scheduled trip to texas to mark the anniversary of the voting rights act. vice president harris also had to cancel an event she was scheduled to do in palm beach, florida, literally donald trump's hometown where mar-a-lago is because of the shooting. but now both the president and as you see on screen right now, the vice president, back on the campaign trail. both in important battleground states. and we heard from vice president harris just now, the attempt to pivot to the conversation at hand that i also heard from president biden yesterday. he began with civil remarks to

the naacp convention that all of us, as he said, pray for the former president's health and safety. but that as much as -- and he invoked harry truman in doing this, we have to get back to a frank discussion of the issues, and he said he was not going to shy away from telling the truth about donald trump's record, and invoking harry truman he said he was going to tell the truth even if it sounded like when somebody give them hell, harry, he's going to give them the truth and they'll think it's hell. you saw a contrast oriented speech, a similar one when he speaks to an important constituency, latino voters. >> thank you so much for that, mike memoli, and we have that quote. we have that sound from president biden. so let's play that. >> now, just because we must lower the temperature in our politics, it doesn't mean we should stop telling the truth. who you are, what you've done,

what you'll do, that's fair game. as harry truman said, i have never delivered giving anyone hell, i just told the truth and they thought it was hell. >> what do you think is key for the president and vice president if they're going to make the pivot? look, in the immediate after math of an assassination attempt, your conversation is going to be patriotic, it's going to be about unity. for many people it's going to be about prayers for the people that are affected by this. there's a campaign, and the stakes are high. how do you make the pivot? >> well, i think that there's a couple of things, chris. first and foremost, there were lots of things saying, why is the president pausing campaign events. because he's the president of the united states of america. there's the vice president of the united states of america, there's campaigning and governing. joe biden has said he's going to be a president for everybody whether they voted for him in the last election or not, and so

i think it was very important that they set that tone very clearly. this is not about democrats or republicans. because what happened at that rally, it could have happened at a biden/harris campaign event. it could have happened to mitch mcconnell, like that is a real take a pause here. however, this idea that -- and i think that the president and the vice president are being quite, you know, generous saying, as we take the temperature down, they didn't ratchet the temperature up. let's just be very clear here. i have not heard national democratic leaders calling for republicans to be rounded up and locked up. i have not seen joe biden tweet or post about military televised military tribunals for a republican member of congress or even democrats that don't agree with him. so this is just like a i am kind of like a hold on here, the temperature does need to be taken down, but we need to speak about and directly to the people that have ratcheted the temperature up. >> donald trump posted this image on truth social today, and

i think we can show it. it shows his picture after getting up from being shot. compared to a picture of joe biden falling down the stairs. is that fair game? or moving back to the old world order? >> i think it's petty, first of all, and in the aftermath, i'm so glad that president trump is okay. i am so glad that he is okay, and my heart hurts for the people who are at that rally and mr. comperatore's family who has lost a life and the two individuals who are still in the hospital. let's be very clear, this image that donald trump was so able to capture, looking for his photo op moment in the aftermath of something very harrowing, that picture is a picture of he himself in danger and the agents around him in danger. this is not something to be celebrated. this is serious, and i think that in the aftermath of what is a very devastating assassination attempt should cause everyone to give pause and say, okay, one, how can i take the temperature down, but two, how am i leading as a leader, and posts like this are just petty.

the glorification of that photo. what i see in that photo is secret service agents putting their lives on the line for the man that they have signed up to protect because that is, in fact, the job. >> there are thousands of people in a convention center in milwaukee who see that as a sign of strength, and so that is going to be part of the conversation going forward, and it is an important one. symone sanders townsend, always love having you on the show. mike memoli thank you for your great reporting. be sure to tune in to "the weekend" saturdays and sundays at 8:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc. democrats flex their fundraising strength. the numbers offering a bright spot for the party despite all the concerns about joe biden's candidacy. the concerns about jos candidacy.

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and z fold6 when you trade in your current phone. get the fastest connection to paris with xfinity. on capitol hill. doug, nbc news political reporter, and adam jentleson who served as chief of staff for john fetterman. break down the fundraising numbers for us. >> reporter: the democratic house campaign arm, which has the goal of flipping the house of representatives this november, they pulled in a whopping $44 million in the second quarter of this year. that's a trip record, according to them, and 19.7 million of that came in the month of june. the leader, hakeem jeffries has been traveling the country. they point out the traveling for the company has been robust, and they beat republican counter parts by the june metric and also the overall q2 fundraising

metric. this comes against the backdrop where we have spent a lot of time reporting on the panic and the concern within house democrats and some of their most vulnerable ranks, specifically the so-called front line democrats that are in symptom of the swingiest districts in the country. democrats will need to retain those as well as find places to expand the map, if they want to flip an already razor thin margin in their favor in november. i listened to what hakeem jeffries told me for this story where he says that now those members, quote, will have the money, the mobilization and the message to win convincingly in the fall. as we look ahead at the sort of dissonance that i have heard from donors in regards to president biden's campaign and the way that they want to work towards down ballot races, the fundraising might be in a difficult place for the biden campaign, but most donors i've talked to, even if they want to turn off the cash to the biden folks are still going to be funneling that money down ballot, especially to house

races where people do really see this as a map that could allow democrats to take back control of the house. that of course is the top priority for them here, and why this story in the midst of frankly despair on capitol hill, this story might be a bright spot for them. >> ben, you're reporting on the quarterly fundraising boost where senate democrats are also raking in the cash, particularly in a few key races. you write, in all but one of the ten competitive races, democratic senate candidates raised more than their gop opponents, pulling in a combined $90.6 million, compared to 64.4 million for republicans. the question becomes is that fundraising advantage quieting vulnerable democrats who have at least privately expressed worry about biden being at the top of the ticket? >> i think in short, no. think of it in two ways, one, more money as a candidate, every candidate wants more money. it allows you to run the

campaign you want to run. you can control what you can control, and if you have the money to run the campaign you want, to run the ads you want, to do the persuasion you want, you can control that part of it. there's a whole outside of it, there's been a steady drip of is biden fit, should biden step down, a new democrat came out in the past couple of hours saying maybe he should step down. this kind of optics, this national mood is not good for the democrats, and on top of that, talking about the senate race, yes, the money that candidates raise will be huge. the battle for the majority of the senate goes through states like montana, west virginia, and ohio. and then into the pennsylvania, nevada, arizona, sort of swing states. those first three states are states that trump won convincingly in '20. democrats have an up hill battle to keep the senate. >> adam, you know a thing about fundraising in key races, having

worked on one of the most expensive senate races. i want to know from your perspective what it can buy them, and if it can overcome the concerns if joe biden turns out to be a weak candidate at the top of the ticket. how much can money really buy you? >> well, it buys you a lot. there's a point of diminishing returns, where you have raised enough money, and it doesn't count as enough. the main thing it buys is television ads. the biggest expense on the campaign is tv ads and paid media, ads on social media and other platforms. that's your voice, essentially, when you're a campaign, and so if you have an issue where the top of the ticket is not as strong as you might like it, those ads are your opportunity to distinguish yourself, and to articulate ways in which you are different from your party, and that's, you know, a very common thing to do, not just in cases where the top of the ticket is weak, but in every race, you know, if you're in, especially

if you're in a state like ohio, montana, west virginia back in, i think it was 2016 when senator joe manchin first won his seat, he famously shot a copy of the climate change bill with the rifle in one of his ads, so this is a tactic, but you have to have the money to put those ads on air, and i think what we're seeing with these numbers are that a lot of senate democrats are in reasonably strong positions to drive that message one way or the other as we approach the end of the summer and the real campaign season, which kicks in after labor day. >> after joe biden's performance at the debate, a lot of democrats, who like joe biden, who wish the best for joe biden, were being cautious. they said, let's wait, let's see what the polls show. let's see what the fundraising numbers are. they say now, adam, look at the polls, they still remain static. look at the fundraising you're reporting. do these numbers give joe biden a little breathing room? >> well, it depends on who you

talk to. so the numbers at the top of the ticket have held steady, and i think that would be an argument for biden to remain in the race, and i think his allies are making that case. i think part of the question that people are wondering is what converges with what. it's impossible to say. do the senate numbers where -- because even though biden is holding steady, he's losing, and he's losing in many states where senate democrats are running. senate democrats themselves are ahead in those states. which numbers converge with which, do the senate race numbers converge with the presidential numbers or do biden's presidential numbers converge with the senator's numbers. and i think what people are trying to figure out is which direction does this go. and there are lessons from history where generally the down ballot candidates converge with the top of the ticket. but a lot of people are making the case now that things are different and what we call reverse coat tails might be a factor here, where, in fact, the presidential numbers will

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we have brand new details about what local police flagged before a gunman attempted to take donald trump's life. "the washington post" is now reporting that they quote, alerted the secret service before former president trump's rally saturday that they lacked the resources to station a patrol car outside that key building. according to local and federal law enforcement. nbc's shaquille brewster reports from bethel park, pennsylvania, also here, retired special agent, u.s. secret service, robert bobby mcdonald. local police and the secret service, obviously very different levels of resources, but this is a rural county with very limited resources. now we hear they basically said we can't do this. so then how does this happen? >> well, good afternoon, chris, it's nice to be with you. look, the secret service is the coordinator of this security platform, and it's ultimately responsible for how this gets implemented and everything takes place. so if one of the partners that

they were working with during the week came back and said at some point, hey, we can't handle this. somebody needs to come up with a solution on how to solve that issue and close that loop on that problem. we don't take the answer that you just can't handle it so let's not worry about it, we need to come up with a solution, and there should have been some type of solution sought out from another agency or somebody else to come in and pick up that hole, you know, to fix that problem and negate that nefarious activity. >> there may be some confusion because some people probably heard that there were local law enforcement inside the building. now we're led to understand at nbc news that the head of the secret service misspoke. they were actually in a different building in that complex, but that's not all the new information. we just have some new details about what was found next to the body of the gunman. what can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right, and look, we knew that next to the

body of the gunman, they found a phone and what was described as a transmitter, but now a senior law enforcement official is telling nbc news that that transmitter was a remote control for a firework detonator. you see it on your screen. that's an exclusive photo of the device from our pittsburgh affiliate, wpxi. it's a device that could trigger not only a firework but incendiary device. we know when law enforcement approached the vehicle that this 20-year-old shooter that was driving nearly the rally. they found two improvised explosive devices. they described them as rudimentary, they were devices that had the ability to, one, injure officers and distract officers and law enforcement and kind of suck up resources if they were to go up. i think if we step back a little bit and approach this from -- and look at the big picture here, you know, we talk act the failures, we talk about the missed warning signs, but this speaks to a little bit of the planning of this 20-year-old shooter and the fact that there

was some level of sophistication in the plan and plot to assassinate former president donald trump. >> there's a source telling colleagues that local police alerted the secret service that there was a suspicious person with a range finder and they still let donald trump go on stage. we know what a range finder is used for, right, it's often used in hunting. it could be used in this type of situation. you know what the trajectory or what the distance is of the gun you have, and how far, then, away, that podium is. you could see it from that roof. does it make sense to you, if they did know that, to let their protectee go on stage? >> i think i said the communication issue here is going to rear its ugly head. you're working with different agencies who have different frequencies. there's a plan in place so that realtime information can get everywhere it needs to get to immediately to its consumers, and if the detail who was on the

dais with the former president, and make the decision to take the president off the stage before the shots rang out, then that's a problem. if that information did get to them, and they chose to go forward, that's a whole other problem. so, i think, again, we're going to continue to peel back the onion here as we find out this information, and we're going to really need to do a deep dive to find out, again, exactly what happened here, how it happened, why it happened, and how we make sure that it doesn't happen again. >> robert mcdonald, shaq brewster, thank you both. we're going to take you to milwaukee where j.d. vance is making his first appearance since being named donald trump's running mate outside of the convention center. let's listen in. >> i joked with the president that, you know, i'm very excited about this evening, and i don't plan to screw it up, but if i do, it's too late. he made the pick, right. it's official now. we're going to get out there and try to fire up the crowd tonight and make the case, a very easy

case to make but an important case to make that we have got to reelect president donald j. trump to the white house, right? [ applause ] now, what i'll do here is talk a little bit about what is at stage in this election. i'll talk a little bit about what i'm going to try to do as his running mate, and i'll talk a little bit about why the biden presidency has been such a complete failure, but what i'll first -- what i'll do after my remarks, actually, is try to take some photos and hang out. if you've got anything you want me to sign, you guys are going to hear me speak tonight for a much longer time than you're going to hear me speak today, and i would like to actually visit with you a little bit, so hopefully you're ready because i would love to just talk with people and answer some questions, and take some photos. but, you know, i keep on thinking to myself, what's the best way -- and this is part of what i've been going through when i think about what i'm going to say tonight -- what is the best way to articulate why

it is that reelecting president trump is so important. there are all of these different sort of spins you could take on it. one is you could say with apologies to our friends back there, the media has lied more aggressively and slanderously about a guy, and he keeps on coming through it. he keeps persevering, and fighting. president trump has taken everything that they've thrown at him, and he's come out stronger, and the country has come out better for her service, and we should be grateful to him, and all of us in this room absolutely are. it's the wait that we saw that, the contrast between the lie that the media tells about president trump and the man that all of us actually know, of course we saw it in really really stark definition on saturday. because i'm sure that all of you had a similar reaction to me, you see the video, your friends

start telling you, oh, my god, they just shot the president, and then when i first saw the clip i was worried, you know, you saw him go down, and i didn't know what was going on afterwards. i was so terrified that we had just lost a great president, but an unbelievably terrible thing if our country in that moment of time. i was so afraid for him and so afraid for our country, and then of course he stands up a minute later, after they shot him, they literally shot him, and he raises his fist in the air, and he says fight, fight, fight. he fires up the crowd. but this is where the media was really dishonest, and i think they really missed what the man is made of because after he literally got shot, came within millimeters of losing his life in the service of the country, what did he do? i remember what i did. i was pissed, as soon as i knew

he was okay, i felt relief, and i was like, i cannot believe an assassin tried to take down the president of the united states. i was mad about it. was he mad and angry? he called for national unity. he called for calm. he showed leadership, my friends, that the media keeps on saying they want somebody to tone down the temperature, well donald trump got shot and he toned down the temperature. that's what a real leader does. there's another spin on the contrast again between joe biden and donald trump that i think it's important to take on. you know, president trump obviously is one of those successful real estate executives in the history of our country. of course the trump name became synonymous with luxury and with beauty in the real estate world, and joe biden, of course, likes to pretend that he's just scranton joe. i don't think joe biden knows

much about what he is or isn't these days, but, you know, the guy who actually connects with working people in this country is not fake scranton joe. it's real president donald trump. because they know -- because they know that he has their best interests at heart. they know that when he was president for four years, groceries and gas and energy and housing were actually affordable to a normal person in this country, and after four years of the biden administration, the basic trappings of a good middle class life have become less and less attainable. in my home state of ohio, the average ohio family is about $10,000 poorer than they were four years ago. and of course ronald reagan famously asked in a great debate, i think it was jimmy carter, he asked the american people in a debate with jimmy carter, are you better off than you were four years ago.

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