good morning. we begin with the growing isolation president biden is facing both politically and physically. the president is isolating at home in delaware after testing positive for covid. this as questions about his health and his reelection campaign continue to grow. four sources tell cnn former house speaker nancy pelosi privately told the president

polling shows he cannot beat donald trump and that he could destroy democrats' chances of taking back the house in november. chuck schumer had a similar message for the president during what was described as a blunt conversation on saturday. and congressman adam schiff has become the most high-profile democrat to call on the president to step aside. in an interview this week, the president laid out what would make him reevaluate. >> if doctors said, you've got this problem and that problem. >> all this comes as donald trump prepares for his crowning moment at the republican national convention in make tonight.

ali vitali and jonathan allen. when you have someone like chuck schumer telling the president he can't win, what was that like, and what was the conclusion of that meeting and that conversation? >> there's a real parallel here. obviously the situations are different, but there's a parallel here to richard nixon after the watergate tapes came out where barry goldwater and other senators told nixon you don't have the votes to survive. ultimately nixon resigned. the difference is there is no vote on whether or not joe biden remains the democratic nominee for president. it's really up to him. but there is a problem democrats are having, which is, their fundraising has fallen through the floor. i know that sounds a little bit esoteric for some folks, but

they're not going to be able to run the race if their funders are not giving them money. schumer went there and talked to him. hakeem jeffries went to talk to the president, gave the same message, according to our sources. he's hearing that he needs to step aside, but he is not yet accepting it. >> the president has been a prolific fundraiser. there's 200 million plus in the bank. what does it mean that his funding is drying up? >> it means that the donor class, the people who give big money to democrats -- by the way, it's not just for our campaign. it's also for super pacs supporting his campaign. donors are saying if you don't

step aside, we're not giving any more money. that's problematic not only for biden, but the other democrats. that's one of the reasons you're hearing so many people come out publicly by name to push on him or you're hearing reports of others doing it behind closed doors. >> ali vitali, we've seen this drip, drip, drip of lawmakers coming out and asking the president to step aside. can we expect more of this? >> reporter: the drip and the leak might be the thing to finally break the dam. this is not going to be a massive watershed moment publicly, but instead it might come through blind reports overnight about conversations that the president had with top members of congress. based on the statements from schumer and hakeem jeffries'

office, those offices are not shying away from saying their bosses relayed concerns to the president. in the case of chuck schumer, it was a blunt private conversation. hakeem jeffries said he was relaying the concerns he has heard from democrats. he has really run this caucus up here on the hill as someone who does embark on listening tours of his members. he doesn't weigh in, but he gives members the space to vent concerns. in this case, it's venting about the drag that biden could have on their own reelection efforts, but also out of concern, because all of these democratic members know the stakes in needing to defeat former president trump. many of them say one of their biggest concerns in the aftermath of the debate was not just that biden couldn't do the job, but that he couldn't carry

the message. the message is one of such stark contrast, whether it's on something like project 2025 or abortion or peaceful transfers of power, talking about january 6th. democrats want the focus to be there. instead, you have seen this continued circular firing squad. so a lot of attention is being paid to what schumer and jeffreys might have told the president in their private conversations. if they're saying they relayed concerns, we have a pretty good sense then of what might have been said to the president. so it is clear at this point that biden is getting those warnings from key people within his own party, but is remaining steadfast in saying he's going to be the party's nominee. at least that's where the conversation stands right now. >> what is the biden campaign saying about all of this?

>> reporter: we're really seeing this all-hands-on-deck effort from the biden team. you have the white house this morning pushing back on claims that chuck schumer and nancy pelosi are adding to this pressure campaign among democrats calling for the president to step aside. we have a statement from white house spokesperson who says president biden is the nominee. he plans to win and looking forward to working with congressional democrats to pass his 100 days agenda to help working families. we also heard from deputy campaign manager at a campaign event in milwaukee this morning slamming reports about whether a backup option to president biden is being discussed among the biden team. he said our campaign is not working through any scenarios where president biden is not the top of the ticket. he is and will be the democratic

nominee. the biden campaign conveying how busy they are, promoting surrogates that they have all over the country, trying to counter message the republican convention, including vice president harris campaigning in north carolina today. the president has said the only things that would make him reconsider whether to stay in this race is the lord almighty or a medical condition. the white house is saying that despite this diagnosis, he is not reconsidering his decision to double down and stay in the race. but we know from sources familiar with his private conversations in recent days that the gravity of this situation is really weighing on him and he's considering what impact that could have on his legacy. >> is there a specific reason these top names are making these moves right now? look at the time we're living in

politically. why make these moves now? >> what democrats tell me behind the scenes is that these leaders gave subtle hints to joe biden that it was time for him to step aside. he chose not to do it. then they gave more public hints to joe biden that it was time for him to step aside. and he didn't do it. now they're getting more and particular public. they're trying to give him the space to make the decision on his own. he said only the lord almighty could come down and make him change his mind. nancy pelosi is as close as you can get in democratic politics. if she came out publicly against him, it would cut his feet out from under him. >> they rarely take a step without consulting each other.

was this a move that was coordinated? >> reporter: i think that many of us who watch the ways nancy pelosi operates here paid close attention when schiff came out. although his team says they didn't consult with the former speaker, i think many of us who look at the way pelosi has operated find it notable that she came out on "morning joe" and said this is a decision that is biden's to make. of course, she was faced with the reality that he already made the decision, but she still defaulted that it was his decision to make. we've only seen confidence in the president wane since then. from my conversations with elected democrats who were on calls with him before the shooting of president trump that

they heard from a feisty president who didn't seem keen to take the concerns that had been delivered to him about polls and confidence that he can carry the message and carry democrats to another term of holding the white house, flipping the house and keeping the senate, it seemed to lawmakers on those calls like those concerns fell on deaf ears and biden wasn't willing to hear that picture or at least not concede it on these private calls last weekend. elected lawmakers are not here. they are home in their districts. this is a recess week where in theory all focus should be on milwaukee and on countering republican messaging. instead democrats are in their group chats trying to talk to each other about where this goes next. it feels like things have hit a

different phase like this is a fever pitch moment and we could see something more happening as we track the people behind the scenes like pelosi and schumer. we already watched members trying to pressure the dnc out of that virtual roll call happening early to try and give them the time and space to work out who the nominee could be if it's not biden. they got that and now we're in this next phase. >> how is president feeling? >> reporter: we saw him slowly boarding air force one as he cut his trip to battleground nevada short. when he landed in delaware, he said he was feeling good. the president's doctor says his symptoms are mild, a runny nose,

a cough and general fatigue. he's taking paxlovid to help ease the severity of the symptoms. they say he's continuing to carry out his duties as president from rehoboth beach. obviously with the president's age at 81 years old, we expect him to be closely monitored. coming up, senator alex padilla is with us. we'll ask him where he stands today. plus, tonight is donald trump's big night at the rnc just days after being shot. we'll break down how the assassination attempt will impact his remarks. and new reporting raises more questions about how the shooting happened in the first place. abog happened in the first place. i used to leak urine when i coughed, laughed or exercised. i couldn't even enjoy playing with my kids. i leaked too. i just assumed it was normal. then we learned about bulkamid.

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14 past the hour. in just a couple of hours, the grand finale of the republican national convention. former president trump will deliver his keynote address in milwaukee, his first public prime time remarks since saturday's assassination attempt. also in attendance, melania trump and ivanka will join republicans at the rnc in a show of support. it all comes after ohio senator jd vance made his national debut last night as trump's running mate, highlighting his working

class background. >> from iraq to afghanistan, from the financial crisis to the great recession, from open borders to stagnating wages, the people who govern this country have failed and failed again. i promise you this. i will be a vice president who never forgets where he came from. >> joining us from walk, katy tur and ashley parker. tonight marks another major moment for the former president. what is he walking into tonight? >> it is a significant night for him. he's going to be walking onto the stage after surviving an assassination attempt after regaining the full confidence of his party, not that he ever lost it, after the 2020 election and running again in 2024.

does he change his tone after what happened on saturday? we're told by aides and the campaign that, yeah, the speech was rewritten, that it's going to have to be different because of what he went through, that it will be more emotional. we're going to have to wait and see what exactly that means and whether the full speech was rewritten or just portions of it. remember, donald trump had been waging that campaign as a war of vengeance. he said he was the party's retribution. he talked about going after his enemies, using the doj. the policy this party is promoting here at this convention is an extraordinarily tough convention. while we're all talking about a change of tone in donald trump, i think it's important not just to remember how he says it, but

what he is saying, and whether this brush with death changes not only how he speaks but the country. yesterday as we were watching him do a run through of his time on the stage, standing right beside him was steven miller. >> it's not only how you say things, it's what you say. and then also what it is that you're proposing. >> that's exactly right. i think the opportunity -- i just want to go back to 2016, his first convention. i'm sure everybody remembers the party was not so unified behind him. you had senator ted cruz withholding his delegates until the last minute giveminute, givy controversial speech where he didn't endorse the nominee.

compare that to know where ted cruz gave a full-throated endorsement of donald trump. it's also worth noting that with president trump, all indications are he is rewriting portions of his speech. the caution is, how many times have we heard when he was first nominated back in 2016 once he's the nominee, he will grow into the role. he will become presidential. once he is elected and experiences the weight of the white house and the oval office, he will become presidential. just because he gives one unifying speech and rises to the moment -- and all indications

are that he has not urged everyone not to let the assassination overshadow the election. one speech doesn't change who he is at his core. >> can human beings change their core depending on, you know, life-changing moments? katy, you were talking about those signs we saw yesterday at the rnc, you know, deport millions. we heard a lot of rhetoric last night about migrants and crime. here's a sample of some of them. >> the democrats flooded this country with millions of illegal aliens. so citizens had to compete with people who shouldn't even be here for precious housing. >> joe and kamala, they threw

out the woke blue carpet across the rio grande, opened our borders who murderers and rapists. >> biden has welcomes into our country rapists, murderers, even terrorists. >> wave after wave of illegal aliens, deadly drugs keep pouring across our border. >> it's murderers and rapists. it's this broad-brushed painting of, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. it kind of is very directly tied -- katy, you were there when trump came down from the escalators in 2016 and said when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. he calls them rapists. what kind of a message is this? and is this any change in tone?

>> it's not a change in tone. remember when he said that. the party recoiled. how can somebody say something like that and run for office? but it resonated with republican voters. clearly he won in 2016. build the wall. you see people here today wearing jumpsuits with the wall painted on it. donald trump is using it to his advantage. doesn't matter what is actually happening at the border. he's still going to use it. in fact, there was an immigration bill put forward in the senate just a few months ago, a bipartisan immigration bill cowritten by bipartisan

senators, leaned conservative. james lankford was the guy pushing it from oklahoma. it angered democrats. but it didn't go anywhere, because donald trump started making calls to lawmakers saying i don't want this bill to go to the floor, i don't want this to pass. this is the sort of thing i'm running on, and i'm going to fix it when i get into the white house. i will note, there was no immigration reform while donald trump was in office. he had control of the house, the senate, the presidency. no immigration bill got to the floor. there was chants of "build the wall." some of it did get built, but there was no immigration reform. here's what they're proposing. steven miller wants to deport a million immigrants a year. i asked whether there will be exceptions for maybe someone who's lived here for all their

lives or most of their lives, the dreamers, will they be separating families? they don't answer that question directly. eric trump didn't, at least the other day. but it is a popular chant, a popular talking point, and it works certainly for people in this room. >> the fact that the border bill -- it wasn't really an immigration bill. >> you're absolutely right. >> it was more of a border bill and that couldn't get any traction. thank you both so much. great seeing you. we're getting new revelations this morning about the assassination attempt against donald trump. we'll tell you what the gunman wrote online before opening fire and what secret service and law

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the president sat down for an interview with univision before he was diagnosed with covid and left las vegas. he was asked about the growing calls from democratic donors and lawmakers to step aside, concerns about his age. >> people are now saying, well, that was only one thing, but he's 81 years old. what happens at 84 years old? what happens when he's 85 years old? i was smart enough to know with age comes wisdom. i know the difference between truth and lies, good and bad and what has to be done. >> joining us now is senator alex padilla. senator, always a pleasure to see you. the last time you and i spoke on the air eight days ago today you were unequivocal in your support of the president. are you still 100% behind president joe biden to be the democratic nominee?

>> 100%, jose. the only thing that's changed from last week to this week is there's only 109 days left between now and the november election, 109 days with which to reelect joe biden and kamala harris and to defeat donald trump because of the danger that he, jd vance and project 2025 represent. >> senator, there is a lot of talk on capitol hill between what some members are saying publicly and what they're saying behind closed doors or in phone conversations. there are reports of the president meeting with the congressional hispanic caucus last week, maybe some tension and confrontational moments. how would you describe that meeting? and how do you explain to us, senator, how much of a difference there is between what some politics say publicly and

what they say behind closed doors? >> a couple things, jose. yes, i was on that virtual meeting with the president and members of the congressional hispanic caucus. one member might have made some headlines for what he said at the end of that zoom, but the vast majority of the members on the call were supportive of the president, because the stakes are too high. second, there are some members of the house and other democratic leaders urging president biden to consider. i wish the press would give equal time to the many, many members continuing to support the president and campaigning, reaching out to voters, mobilizing. that's why i'm here in wisconsin today on day four of the republican convention, because the contrast between joe biden's

leadership and the dangers of donald trump coming back to the white house couldn't be more clear. we had a primary election season. 14 million voters in the democratic primaries looked at joe biden's record of accomplishments, his leadership and progress made in the last four years and said, yes, we want him to be our nominee for another term. he's got the delegates. unless and until he decides otherwise, he's our nominee. i urge all of my colleagues to work as hard as they can for the next 109 days to make sure we win in november. >> my only interest is to give everyone a voice. the issue that you bring up about how a lot of these people who are complaining and asking the president to step aside are the ones getting all the

coverage. here's my question to you. where is the loyalty and where is the perspective on someone who ran for office who received millions of votes in a primary and that same person is the president of the united states of measuring. where are the voices saying we're with president biden? [ speaking in a global language ] >> we've been saying publicly and privately. i certainly am not the only one. we're the democratic party. of course we are diverse and we welcome different ideas, but at the end of the day, joe biden's not new to politics. he's been around the block more than once or twice. he can handle a difference of opinion. he's heard it and he's answered our question.

he sent that letter last week to members of congress saying he's thought about it and he's committed to winning this november. it's going to be a close race. that's why i'm asking to direct all that time and energy to actually reaching out to voters. the stakes are too high. we have to continue to make sure we're reaching out to new voters and particularly in these key swing states. we have to turn them out to reelect joe biden and kamala harris for another four years. >> senator, in other news, two sources directly familiar say bob menendez has signalled his intention to resign. have you spoken with the senator? >> i certainly conveyed a message that i had not called

for his resignation previously out of respect for the judicial system process. he had a clear verdict, 16 counts. i think he should step aside. >> you and your fellow senators got a briefing from the fbi and the secret service on the assassination attempt of former president trump. do you think the secret service director should resign? >> it could lead to that, but there's currently an investigation as to what went wrong. what we did convey to the secret service and security personnel in our briefing to members yesterday was, as you're able to obtain information, corroborate information, let's err on the side of being forthcoming with the public on what did or didn't

happen. short of that, we leave room for conspiracy theories to happen. clearly that was a breakdown in security. what was the fault of secret service versus local law enforcement partners? that needs to be fleshed out. if any of that analysis recommends changes to policy, protocols or procedures, then that needs to happen as quickly as possible. >> thank you for being with us today. up next, new video shows the gunman standing outside the security perimeter ahead of trump's rally last saturday. we're going to break it down with a retired secret service agent. with a retired secret service agent. indigestion iberogast bloating iberogast thanks to a unique combination of herbs, iberogast helps relieve six digestive symptoms to help you feel better. six digestive symptoms. the power of nature. iberogast. after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief, my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas.

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40 past the hour. new information this morning about the assassination attempt of former president donald trump. we now know that the gunman's search history included images of donald trump and president biden. sources tell nbc news the shooter was reported as a suspicious person one full hour before he opened fire. joining us now, tom winter and bobby mcdonald. what else are we learning from this investigation? >> every day new questions and every day the questions we asked the day before we try to fill in the gaps. a lot of this reporting comes from our colleagues on capitol hill yesterday. congress received a briefing from the fbi. the fbi director even spoke as

well as from the secret service. i'm going to kind of mix together their reporting and what they have and some of our reporting as well. so what is now reporting that this organization and others have had is this person was initially identified as a suspicious person at least an hour beforehand. what made him suspicious, the way he was acting around the magnetometers and he had this range finder on him which has been described as a golf range finder. it looks like binoculars you hold up to your eyes to determine distances. what could he have been using that for? we don't know specifically because he's now deceased, but could he have been using that to determine distance from the stage. obviously within ten minutes of all this going down they're concerned about his current presence.

then we have him getting on the roof. law enforcement is trying to engage with him at this point. moments after they radio in this guy is on the roof and he's got a gun, the shots start firing. who knew what and when remains a question. what did law enforcement transmit to secret service and what did secret service transmit to their own people? for obvious reasons the secret service does not have normal police communications. a lot of times on scanner websites we can pick up what police are saying to each other. but the secret service runs on an encrypted frequency so we can't listen to that for ourselves. if they were recorded, then obviously at some point the independent investigation will cover that. >> i want to put on the screen the timeline of what happened saturday. local police report a suspicious

person around 5:09. 5:51 police notify secret service of a suspicious person with a range finder. 6:02 trump takes the stage. 6:11 the shooter opens fire. in what world would the secret service to allow a protectee to take the stage with those details? >> good morning. it's nice to be with you. tom is exactly right. as we look through the different aspects of that timeline and the whys and wherefores of what happened here, there are more and more questions. i'm not sure the secret service is putting out with any transparency or helping the situation. caveating that i wasn't there and in my 21 years never had to respond to a gunshot, working with our partners and asking all

the hypothetical what ifs, that's all part of the advance process. maybe several things here slipped through the cracks, and we need to figure out why, how and how we not allow it to happen again. >> the roof being slanted as a possible reason there wouldn't be someone up there from secret service or local police or anybody, what are the questions you have? >> those things aren't adding up. i get no joy being here talking about my former agency where we are members of the family forever. and responding to gunfire and responding to the former president on the stage, you know, getting a feeling of empathy for their response. remembering the victims here, the gentleman who lost his life and the two people injured, we can't forget them either. the secret service needs to

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some of my former colleagues as well. there are people that cannot believe that the opposition to the president's candidacy has been as strong and vocal in this particular moment, a month before -- less than a month before a convention, less than three months until people start voting. i had people who worked for president clinton who said we have never seen anything like this. they worked for president clinton. >> simone, you know, the president and the vice president -- how do you think he is thinking about this lack of loyalty? the president, as a candidate, just came through a long and intense primary process. granted, he was the president. how do you think a president feels with this lack of solidarity, respect and support? >> i think two things. i go back to the primary, the competitive primary in 2019 and 2020. there were calls when -- for all

of the candidates to drop out and it was clear joe biden was the presumptive democratic nominee. he would tell us publicly, i'm not going to pressure anyone. it's a personal decision. we will not call for anyone to get out. i don't want to see anybody on tv saying that. to see what's happening now, it's personally for him probably shocking. i will say this, i think people are -- don't understand how is he resolute? he lost support from a number of congressional members. he has been out there with voters. every interview i have seen him do, he says, i hear what people are saying, but voters are telling me -- if you look at what happened in las vegas and naacp convention, you saw his rally in michigan, the voters and people that he is seeing are telling him, hey, we are with you. that flies in the face of what he is maybe hearing on television and pelosi and

jeffries and schumer. that goes into his resoluteness. he did win a primary. it does feel like the tide is so strong that he is swimming against. it is only joe biden that's going to say, i don't want to swim against this anymore. last night, we were told that the president is still swimming. he is in this race. it's my understanding they reiterated that today. things have not changed. the tide is strong. the last point is if the president says he can't swim anymore, i think the only natural choice is vice president harris. >> i want to talk to you about that. the democratic primaries, start with south carolina this time around, no doubt to help in some ways the president. that was a clear indication of support of the party for him. he has been the recipient of overwhelming support in these primaries by african american and latino voters, by the millions. >> absolutely. >> now these calls in washington for him to step aside, how does

the ground shift so quickly? what is that ground that's shifting? there's a solid ground of people, of our color and our persuasion, who supported him and went to the polls. what's that ground? why does it shift? >> there's a disconnect with the conversations that are happening in the media. the party elites are having one conversation. as simone was saying, voters are having a different conversation, particularly black and latino voters. this is their nominee and all of this conversation is a distraction. to the point of congressional leaders, most of the congressional black caucus as well as the hispanic caucus are with president biden as well as a lot of progressive leaders like senator sanders, congresswoman presley, aoc. they listen to voters.

>> we spoke to senator padilla who is behind him. >> we both worked on the campaign in 2020. you hope the campaign actually continues to triple down engaging those voters and that the party elite start to listen to the voters that are going to determine the race. it's not the conversations we're having. it's who shows up in november. >> simone, what do you think happens from today going forward? >> again, i think the president is resolute. i think the fact that covid has taken him off the campaign trail, he is now -- i think it's really important to note the place that he is in. he is physically at home, not being surrounded by the voters, the people saying, we support you, we are with you. he is at home. i don't know if the change of environment, not being on the campaign trail, could affect him. the voters and the delegates are voting for joe biden. >> you think he stays in? >> i don't know. that's crazy for me to say. >> i don't know.

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