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a good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. we begin with decision 2024, president joe biden and covid self isolation today saying he's ready to return to the campaign trail. ap is reporting david letterman will headline a fundraiser with the president on july 29th. it is one of 10 campaign fundraisers scheduled for the last 10 days of july even as debate intensifies among democratic lawmakers over whether the president should be at the top of the ticket.

>> joe biden is our nominee as i said before. he has a really big decision to make. what gives me a lot of hope right now is that if president biden decides to step back we have vice president kamala harris who is ready to step up. >> resident joe biden has been a very effective president over the last 3 1/2 years. he understands what it means if donald trump should get his hands back in the white house and on the levers of executive authority. i believe we are well off with president biden. >> vice president harris is scheduled to travel to massachusetts to deliver a marks for the campaign fundraiser.

donald trump will speak at his first postconvention and post- shooting rally later today in michigan. he will be joined on stage by his running mate jd vance. the campaign opted for an indoor rally. we have several correspondents in place following these developments. we will go to allie raffa in delaware with breaking news on the biden campaign. in this last hour we are learning the president is securing more high-profile support, what more can you tell us? >> reporter: we are learning from sources familiar with the thinking of former president bill clinton as well as former secretary of state and democratic nominee hillary clinton that they are being privately supportive of president biden's decision to stay in this race, even encouraging his donors to stick with him. we are learning from these sources in recent days the clintons have been in touch with the white house, they have offered to help in any way they can as we continue to see these new waves of democratic lawmakers calling for the president to step aside.

we are also seeing some prominent democrats come out and stand with him. one of those being a longtime friend, longtime ally, a co- chair on his campaign. listen to what he told our msnbc colleagues. >> i was on the phone with representatives, donors, voters and 85% of the people that have contacted me are all in for the president. i don't believe that we are unanimous for the president. we are certainly unified. >> we are continuing to see this divide within the democratic party as the president continues his recovery from covid here at his delaware home. you are seeing this public portrayal of defiance and support from not just the democrats but the biden campaign.

the campaign coming out yesterday admitting they have had a slip and support and this has been a rough few weeks but vowing the president is in this race to win it. we heard from the president directly in a statement yesterday saying he looks forward to getting back on the campaign trail. we also know of private conversations happening within the biden circle. we know conversations happening within his family about what him stepping down may look like. several factors there considering is what the impact on the party stability would be, the country and that is a huge shift for the biden family as they come up until this point remained the most committed and dug into him. >> thank you so much. we will have a question right now posed to yvonne hilliard joining us from michigan were donald trump and jd vance will hold their first joint rally. welcome, this is the first rally since the attempted assassination last weekend. what is it like? we know donald trump left

saying to fight, fight, fight. >> reporter: i think that was the question coming here that we had. was there going to be anxiety, was there going to be fear, anger, frustration? across-the-board i would describe it as enthusiastic, energetic and patriotic around donald trump. person after person who we have talked to have said they had no reservations about coming here today for this grand rapids rally. it will be inside the arena behind us. there's typically big crowds the morning of a rally but this one, hundreds of thousands of folks in the early morning hours here in solidarity. the doors have not open yet. we expect donald trump and jd vance to take the stage about four hours from now i want to let you hear from a few folks we've talked to. >> after the shooting we thought this is a historic event and we wanted to be a

part of it. >> how would you describe the decision to come today? was there anxiety? >> no. i mean, no, i think anybody who is a supporter and just the courage he showed plus this has got to be the safest place to be right now especially after the shooting. yeah. no hesitation. we are going. >> this is the first president i've ever voted for in my life. what brought me today is the patriotism. when he said that it touched me. >> they're selling merchandise of the shirt you just saw that gentleman wearing there. we are seeing dozens and dozens of folks wearing the now famous photo of one week ago today in the attempted assassination of donald trump here. this is quite a moment coming off of this convention. we are 100 days away from the general election and while

there's questions on the democratic side of what that ticket may or may not look like there is no doubt and no questions among the donald trump loyalty base about where this party stands and what their mission is over the next three months and that starts with this first joint trump vance rally here in michigan. >> i can hear the shouts nearly drowning you out. i'm going to ask you to stay right there as we are all joined by peter baker, msnbc political analyst chief white house correspondent for the new york times and co-author of the divider, trumping the white house 2017 to 2021. let's look back at thursday night specifically. trump made a showman's entrance on stage to deliver his acceptance speech. he seemed to stick to his prepared remarks on the teleprompter for 15 minutes or so before going off script for most of the next 75 minutes. some describe his remarks as rambling, boring, divisive.

was this speech a gift to democrats? >> i think it was a gift in the sense it didn't expand his base. i think the people who are excited about president trump who are there in grand rapids are obviously charged up. i think the fact he comes out of this with a burst of energy from his base but i don't know he expanded his support to people who haven't supported him in the past. after that first 15 or 20 minutes which was personal and evocative and he did talk about unity he quickly went back to rally trump. talking trash about his opponents and talking about the dystopian america and so forth. if that's appealing to you than he gave the audience what it wanted but i don't know it convince a lot who didn't already support him. there seems to be a cap beyond which former president trump has not been able to exceed when it comes to his support, even his biden support has eroded.

the lead trump has is not because he gained support so much as biden has lost support. >> on friday president trump spoke with ukrainian president zelensky one day after accepting the republican nomination. what can you tell us about that call? >> there was a call in which it was described by zelinski's team as going exceedingly well. i think it is clear for the ukrainian government that there is an understanding that three months from now donald trump could well be elected to be the next president and be sworn into office. in january of 2025. of course, there are obvious concerns that donald trump has openly questioned whether continued u.s. financial aid to ukraine is the best use of the country's resources. he has questioned whether the united states should wholly defend nato allied countries. he met up just over a week ago

with the prime minister of hung gary who had openly talk this spring suggesting for his previous conversations with donald trump that trumpet told him the best way to end russia's aggression and to ukraine would be to cut off u.s. funding and effectively force ukraine to cede some of its territory. the trump campaign never pushed back on that assessment of the conversation from the hung gary side. you're looking at the prospect of the vice presidential pick 80 vance being somebody who openly said he doesn't care what happens to ukraine. this was a clear acknowledgment from president zelenskyy that they very could be dealing with a different administration. they could have a different approach to the u.s. role in the region. >> can i ask you then, how is it that zelenskyy's team

classified this call as going well? by the sounds of it is that just a platitude saying they were cordial to each other? were there more details? >> reporter: i think that's a question donald trump should be able to answer at some point in time here. we don't know what sort of commitment trump gave to zelenskyy but i think it is one of those moments where i think that trump administrations posture towards ukraine but also towards our allies i think is an open ended question that may not be able to be answered here in july of 2024. one of those understandings is that second administration, who does he surround himself by as secretary of state? does he potentially go the route of nikki haley or go in the direction like rick? i think those are the open ended questions that i don't know if

we are wholly able to be understanding of except other than knowing that zelenskyy has found a willing partner in the biden administration and they understand the need to maintain u.s. support in order to continue to push back against russia's invasion. >> peter has nodded in consent with what you're saying. before i asked mina question any comment you want to make? >> no. i think he's right. if you are ukraine or zelenskyy you have to do whatever you can to but -- build bridges on the thought he might come back even if it doesn't seem like it's likely to work. trump has made very clear he is not pro-ukraine, he's done that all the way back to the first impeachment when he blamed ukraine in his view for undercutting him and his 2016 election. he's headed against ukraine for a long time so ukraine and zelenskyy understand but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try

their best to build bridges and it's true people have found in the past former president trump does have a way of listening to the last person who talks to him. there is a theory you can reach out to him and maybe possibly affect his thinking if you engage and flatter him and do all the things that diplomats know how to do. >> not to state the obvious but there are reports president biden is considering dropping out. there are reports he's staying in and that includes his statement friday that he's excited to get back out on the campaign trail next week. where does the truth likely lie? how long would it be between making the decision to drop out if that were to happen and the news being made official publicly? >> that's a good question. he's in the race until he's not. i think that's the obvious thing. even if he's thinking of getting out he wouldn't say or acknowledge that until he made the decision. to keep people on board, tell them he is in and so forth

doesn't mean there is an unanswered question. a lot of democrats don't feel this is a subtle question and that's why they come out with new statements urging him to step aside, that's why they say things like i hope he makes a decision soon and things like that. there really hoping by himself with jill and a handful of aides with a couple stewing i think. we understand he's upset at what he sees as an orchestrated campaign to drive them out by people he has been close to including nancy pelosi and barack obama's former running mate. according to some people close to him he seems to be coming around to understanding he may not be able to win and he may have to think about stepping aside and if he does that there is already conversation about when that could happen and how that might work. >> can you talk about the divide between the democratic party over who should replace the president if he drops out? >> reporter: we are not only seeing this divide among

democrats over whether they want the president to step aside, even among those who say he should there is a divide over who should replace as the democratic nominee. we are seeing some democrats come out publicly and say vice president harris would be the best option but of course an endorsement of her by president biden would be a very big factor in that. we are seeing others who are publicly supportive of an open sort of many primary were any democrat would be able to throw their hat in the ring which could potentially be a very messy process. at the end of the day, who really nominates these nominees are the delegates and we expect that nomination process to happen the first week of august. it's important to note as you heard peter a mind until the president makes this decision to step aside he is still in this race. >> last question. president biden raised millions so the big question is what happens to his campaign war

chest if anyone other than vice president harris were to replace him? >> it's a complicated question. there are lawyers who will give different answers as i understand it. if it were to be vice president harris taking over the ticket she has a stronger legal position because she is already on that organization as the biden harris campaign so she has a legal involvement there. there are some who think she could go ahead and take it over right away. there are some who think it has to wait until after. if it was another candidate other than her there's talk about whether you would take that money and turn it into or super pack function in order to help the democrats even if the new candidate who is not kamala harris couldn't directly inherit. there's a lot looking at these right now. i'm not a lawyer and i think it's a question that will be studied and debated before we get a clear answer. >> you would make a good one. thank you all so much.

appreciate you all. you will hear from congresswoman about what's being said behind closed doors as more democrats are telling resident biden to drop out of the race but it might not be what you think. congresswoman chantel brown of ohio, a member of the caucus will tell me what she thinks the president should do. democrats today are also paying tribute to texas congresswoman sheila jackson lee. she served 30 years in congress and was an advocate for social and economic justice. african-american and women's rights as well as energy independence. she most recently reintroduced the george floyd justice and policing act back in may. we announced last month she was battling pancreatic cancer. sheila jackson lee was 74 years old. to expect! turn shipping to your advantage. keep it simple...with clear, upfront pricing.

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as president biden's campaign vows he's staying in the race just yesterday an additional 12 house democrats and two democratic senators joined the call for him to pass the torch bringing that number now to 36 congressional democrats having done so. your progressive congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez who has stood by president biden is issuing a warning about conversations among democrats happening behind closed doors. take a look. >> if you think there is consensus among the people who

want joe biden to leave, that they will support vice president harris you would be mistaken. i see what they say in conversations. a lot of them are not just interested in removing the president. they are interested in removing the whole ticket. >> joining me now, democratic congressman shontel brown of ohio. she's member of the progressive caucus and i welcome you to the broadcast. thanks for joining me. have you heard similar rumblings somewhat to remove the whole ticket and where do you stand on that and whether president biden should stay in the race? >> thank you for having me. i haven't made it abundantly clear i am 100% writing with the biden. what worries me is the

conversations happening remind me so much of what happened in 2016 when we had one of the most qualified candidates to run for office at the time that was secretary clinton up against donald j. trump. there's a lot of folks that talked about her emails and emails were all we had to worry about today that would be a blessing. here we are today questioning whether or not we should support a candidate who has really delivered transformational legislation in 3 1/2 years. he's accomplished more in his time in office with the support of a women who has been working alongside of him this entire time. for me to have a discussion about the decision he has already declared seems futile. for me, he is the nominee. he has said it multiple times and he said it with his chest so now it's time for us to stop worrying and to start working. the man has made a decision until he decides otherwise and

that is the nominee. the other thing i think important to point out, i mentioned there is a process, a protocol in place god for bid should something happen to the president he has a number two and it is called the vice president and her name is kamala harris. if that is too hard for you to remember how to pronounce then you can call her madame vp. >> i have to say, the 10 toes down put a smile on my face. that was cute. the discussion is out there. they both report nancy pelosi told colleagues she was in favor of an open nomination process if biden were to step down. of california congressman joining the call for biden to get out of the race echoing that sentiment here on msnbc. >> i think should he make that decision it will have to be quick steps. i don't think we can do a

coronation, but obviously the vice president would be the leading candidate. i think kind of a many primary, maybe a vetting hosted by former presidents including obama and clinton would be helpful and help focus the attention and whoever emerges including kamala harris would be a stronger candidate than if we tried to exclude a transparent public process. >> your thoughts on that, do you agree an open primary would be best if president biden were to step down? >> i respect my elders and colleagues. i respect their seniority and tenure. the decision has to come from president biden. he has made his decision very clear. what i will remind folks is when we did the stance back in 2016 we ended up with donald j. trump. he was able to appoint not one, not two, but three supreme court justices who have

overturned president that has been set in this country for decades. need i remind you all of the decision overturning roe versus wade? that was the first thing that happened. he overturned the decision around donald trump's supreme court overturned the decision around affirmative action as it relates to education. this donald trump supreme court overturned the chevron case. there so many things happening as a result of donald j. trumps 2016 election because we did not unite and stand together behind our democratic nominee. what i am respectfully requesting his folks to recall what happened when we did the stance in 2016. it's not an easy process, to sit appear and to say what if and the hypothetical game is not something i'm interested in. what my constituents are calling me and saying is how do we move forward? how do we help the president when? what they realize in ohio is

that a donald trump jd vance presidency and vice presidency would be detrimental to women. these are two people, specifically jd vance, who opposes abortion. he supports a national abortion band with no exceptions. ohio is the state where we had a 10-year-old victim who had to flee the state to get the care she needed. this is very familiar territory and very real for ohioans. we are in a place where we are like the democratic nominee has been set, let's go make sure we keep donald trump and jd vance out of the highest office in the world. >> let me ask about the balance with the concerns some stemming from montana senator jon tester calling for biden to withdraw. he's in a competitive race to hold his seat. she said his candidacy could potentially impact house and senate races. are you worried about biden's

impact on down ballot races? >> what i'm worried about is of donald trump and jd vance get an office and start to implement project 2025 which would institute and put forth a national abortion ban. there is a war on women happening and they are not shy about it. this information is widely available on the internet and in print. what i would caution some colleagues is if polling was the sole indicator of how a presidency or campaign would turn out that i wouldn't be sitting in congress. i was 35 points down so i understand how it feels when people underestimate you, when they discount you think you are not capable of winning a race. polls are a snapshot in time, not the sole indicator of the future. if we had solely went on polling than hillary clinton would've one. i want people to recognize we have time to get it together, we have time to make sure the

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did judge cannon leave wiggle room in her 93 page ruling? >> the overwhelming response from many as a legal analyst is jack smith has an exceptionally compelling case. there are federal statutes that exist that allow for attorney general merrick garland to appoint special counsel, that being jack smith in this particular instance but equally as compelling is the fact judge cannon ignored president in a united states supreme court decision which is u.s. versus nixon that basically stands for the proposition that it is okay for an attorney general to have other people assist him in roles like special counsel to be able to prosecute crimes against the united states. it's baffling to a lot of us that a 93 page ruling was generated and the timing of it being it came after justice clarence thomas and immunity opinion said it is okay to be able to explore these deep

questions as to whether or not special counsel appointment is valid the weight was done in this case even though that was never raised by donald trump or briefed in front of the supreme court and the timing also dropping in the first day of the rnc was a big tell when it comes to eileen cannon. >> we have to remember the source. almost two years ago the court of appeals not just overturned one of judge cannon's rulings in trumps favor but that court rebuked her for her decision. what can you tell us about the makeup of the 11th circuit and if they revive the charges will they be inclined to remove her from the case? >> those are two questions. i did my homework because i was want to make you proud. the current active judges on the 11th circuit i will tell you there are six that are trump appointees but that doesn't mean anything because as you noted right now, when eileen cannon was appealed to the 11th circuit she had judges that kicked it back telling her

she had done something wrong and abused her discretion in the decisions that were reached. the 11 circuits makeup, even though it may be made up of judges appointed by trump and george w. bush, that doesn't mean that those judges are going to ignore president like eileen cannon did. if the charges are revived or if the case is reversed and remanded as they call it then will judge cannon continue on this case? i don't see the court of appeals removing her and at this time we don't have jack smith asking for her refusal. >> let me ask about president biden who told democratic lawmakers he's bringing big reforms that includes term limits for justices and an updated and enforceable code of ethics. what are you learning about that and what are the hurdles that would face? >> there was a blue ribbon commission that was put together

during the biden administration and it reached this amazing multi-hundred dollar page report that basically urged these reforms be done. it's good news for a lot that believe in the world of law that these reforms are being sought but there are challenges. you have to have a certain number of senators to vote on that in congress and if you see constitutional amendments is not just congress it also involves the vote. i urge people to actually look at the current makeup of the supreme court and i urge them to consider the reality which is their voice is just as important as that of a judges opinion because if you go to the ballot box and vote for a particular person including the president you actually have a hand in how the makeup of things like the supreme court end up being but these reforms are being sought, ethics, may conjure there's ethics adhere to, making sure there are limits, age restrictions in

this instance, those are very important and that's exactly what the biden plan is going to be. >> you always make me proud. you are like a walking legal analysis case history encyclopedia. thank you. for all of you who want more we invite you to watch the katie phang show saturdays at noon eastern right here on msnbc. the pressure is building on capitol hill. new statements coming from lawmakers urging president biden to bow out of the election. new tums+ upset stomach & nausea support, and love food back. (♪♪)

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california mark to, has a joint calls for president biden to exit the race bringing the total to 36 congressional democrats. the president and his campaign remained defiant while some members of congress appear weary of potential chaos if biden does not directly name a successor. julie, welcome. what are you hearing? >> talking for a second that congressman from california you referenced is important because he's one of the very few that have publicly called on biden to exit the race to actually lay out a strategy moving forward in his words he called on the president to pass the torch to vice president kamala harris. he said it's become clear to meet the demands of a modern campaign are now best met by harris who can seamlessly transition into the party standard there. this is notable because that's the question on voters minds. i

was in pennsylvania over the past few days asking democrats whether they do believe according to the growing number of democrats biden should exit the race, whether they believe that's a good idea at this point months before the election. the reaction was mixed. some don't think that's a good idea that there's not enough time to make that kind of change, others advocated for harris. another voter advocated for an open process as we have heard other democrats echo and capitol hill. senator bob casey who was one of the last remaining vulnerable democrats to stick behind president biden privately and publicly seemed to soften a little bit yesterday when i asked how this looks going forward in the next coming days. >> i do take those considerations and concerns very seriously. every voter, every public official has to make their own determination. i will say it again, i think the president as he has always done will make a decision

that's in the best interest of the country. i don't think there's a specific timeline, but i do think it's going to be very soon where we have to begin to move forward. we can't stay in the position we are in right now where there is no definitive determination. >> what casey was saying is he wants the party to get back to talking about donald trump and talking about republicans instead of this public infighting we have seen unfolding. the senate and house are coming back early next week on monday and tuesday so they will have a lot to answer. >> that is for sure. we will see what that is. thank you. new detail about a drone flown by the gunmen who shot the former president donald trump. number-one motorcycle insurer. but do you have to wedge it into everything? what? i don't do that. this reminds me of my bike. the wolf was about the size of my new motorcycle. have you seen it, by the way? happy birthday, grandma!

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new details about the lead up to the attempted assassination of donald trump. nbc news confirm the alleged gunman thomas matthew crooks flew a drone over the rally

site a few hours before trump hit the stage allowing him to get an overhead view that could've helped him plan his attack. also new, an examination of his cell phone indicates he may have scoped out the area six days before the rally. joining me now, former secret service agent and former dhs senior adviser charles marino. the gunman's aerial surveillance , that appears to be a series of security failures that allowed him to nearly kill the former president. what more can you tell us about this and the latest on the investigation? >> this is a concerning piece of news. apparently, thomas crooks flew a commercially available drone over the site which perhaps could've helped him plan his attack. it's not clear if drones and aircraft were banned or prohibited over the site which is often the case. our

guests can clarify further. i don't know if it somehow violated a band over there but they know he drew the flu -- drone over the site and they have also looked at his phone now. investigators have been able to search through all sorts of links on his phone and that is not still provide a motive. the motive is still something elusive, but investigators did see he searched information about the mass school shooting in michigan at oxford high school that a teenager carried out there as we all know. he also did research on explosive materials, devices, improvised explosive devices, more details emerging here and more questions really unanswered about the security for that rally. >> first question to you would be, was airspace restricted? i'm sure you're very familiar that typically it would be.

>> yes, airspace is restricted depending on the timing of when this drone was being used to surveil the property and event location that will come into play. yes, the airspace is always closed via a temporary flight restricted zone anywhere the president goes. the secret service is responsible for the creation of the overall security plan and effective implementation of such. that includes the use of state and local law enforcement to support those operations as they do all around the world. i think what you're going to see on monday with this testimony of the director in front of the house oversight committee is there is going to be a lot of areas covered that will include hiring, are the standards maintained, training and operational aspects both resources and the use of technology. it's 2024.

you're not keeping up with technologies like drones and drone detection then you are going to lose the game. the secret service has got to be resourced the way it needs to be by the department of homeland security and after 22 years since joining the department and being absorbed into dhs i think we need to ask some hard questions. does the secret service belong within the department of homeland security? every year they are fighting for the resources they need as they go up against agencies like the coast guard who are looking to purchase ships, cbp looking to buy helicopters, this is a real question that needs to be had. of course, is the right leadership in place right now at the secret service to make sure that they come out of this stronger? >> i know you have been familiar with what went down nine years ago when there was a report issued that brings into question those things charles is mentioning. talk about that.

>> that's right, these are not new questions. really, you have to ask yourself why these questions and these concerns weren't addressed long ago. nine years ago, congress issued a report on the secret service saying it was an agency in crisis and that report was prompted by some incidents that were very worrisome including someone simply scaling the white house fence and strolling across the lawn and walking into the white house. that report said one of the issues, which we are covering here, is training and a chronic shortage of personnel. the core mission, according to a lot of folks who used to work at the secret service and others who have studied this, has been chronically short of agents. when you don't have enough people you don't have the space and breathing room to train them . this really dates back according to some accounts to the 1990s. the idea was you would be on shift for six weeks

or so and then you would have two weeks of training to keep everyone fresh and up-to-date. training often gets sacrificed when you are shorthanded. that is one of the big issues here. >> josh, i want you to put back up that photo we have of the stage in context to the complex of warehouses. we have that one and another one. charles, this is what congress is looking into. these warehouses to the north of the stage which were excluded from the security perimeter despite the closest one being within rifle range as we saw. the secret service has also been criticized for how long it took to get trump offstage. overall, was this a blatant failure of security protocols? i'm curious to your assessment of how the secret service handled that date before and immediately after the shots were fired. >> thanks. i think this has also been part of the messaging problem, the limited messaging problem we have heard coming out of the

secret service. that is part of the responsibility of the secret service. that is part of the operational security plan. there are three concentric rings of security, the inner, middle and outer perimeters. just because state and local law enforcement is in the outer perimeter and they were given the task according to the secret service of securing that building, it's the job of the secret service to make sure that the building is being taken out of play. by that i mean it no longer represents a risk. the secret service sends people out in advance to identify these types of threats and come up with plans to mitigate them. there is no way, as a secret service agent, that you go out to that site in advance and stand on that stage and see that building and not view it as the threat that it is. this is messaging. the secret service, if the bucket stops with them as the

director said, then you've got to own this and that is nobody that has been with the agency in their right mind is going to tell you that the building did not fall into the overall security plan of the secret service. >> thank you so much. what we know about a coup by your moment for democrats happening tonight. happening tonight.

a new event to watch as president biden contemplates his future in delaware. former house speaker nancy pelosi is traveling to north carolina today, where she is set to headline an event intended to unify the democratic party. it comes as some of the closest to cyprus to the house have urged the president to withdraw from the race. tell me who will be attending this event tonight in raleigh, north carolina and what kind of pressure is being put on

democrats. >> the dinner is supposed to start at 7:00 tonight. attendees have spent between $75 and $10,000 to be here. the proceeds go to fund in the democratic effort in the state of north carolina. you mentioned former house speaker nancy pelosi will be in attendance, also top north carolina leaders. we are talking about north carolina governor, the current one, roy cooper, democrat, ineligible for reelection. he has met his max time. there is a tight gubernatorial race happening. who will be in attendance is the attorney general, the man who is running as the democratic candidate. this is an important election that will be happening here. the person he is running against, lieutenant governor mark robinson, this is someone who has been favored by former pres