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very good day to all of you from missing the headquarters in new york. welcome to alex whitney reports. we begin with decision 2024 and president biden's weekend of recovery and recalculation. the president battling covid infection and fending off growing chorus from congress urging him to step aside from the campaign. he says that he is ready to return to the trail. the ap is reporting david letterman will headline a fundraiser with biden set for july 29th. the debate is not going away. >> i am 100% riding with biden. >> president joe biden has been a very effective president over the last 3 1/2 years. >> i was on the phone with representatives and donors, voters, what i'm hearing, 85%
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of the people that have contacted me are all in for the president. >> joe biden is our nominee. as i said before, he has a really big decision to make. what gives me a lot of hope right now is that if president biden decides to step back, we have vice president kamala harris, who is ready to step up. >> in fact, vice president harris in massachusetts at this hour delivering remarks at a campaign fundraiser. donald trump will speak in two hours at his first rally since the rnc and assassination attempt. he will be joined in michigan by his ohio running mate j.d. vance. the secret service is protecting j.d. vance and his family. several reporters and analysts in place covering the new headlines for us to we go first to allie.
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what are we hearing about the big show of support for his re- election? >> reporter: receiving new update from dr. kevin o'connor updating the public on his condition as he continues recovering from covid at his rehobeth beach, delaware home. his doctor saying in the new letter, he tested positive today, he completed his sixth dose of paxlovid to help with symptoms. he is continuing to experience symptoms like a loose nonproduct cough and hoarseness. he says that his symptoms continue to improve steadily. he also explains what the president is suffering from is a specific variant that also accounts for more than 30% of the new infections across the united states, according to the cdc. that new show of support for president biden as he continues to face calls from democratic lawmakers for him to step aside, we are learning from sources familiar with that
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thinking of former president bill clinton and former democratic nominee herself, hillary clinton, that they are privately supporting the president's decision to stay in the race, they even are encouraging donors to continue backing the president. the sources add, they have been in touch with the white house in recent days offering support they can offer at this time. we are starting to see democratic lawmakers, who are helping the campaign, trying to quiet the growing calls. tech listen to congresswoman chantel brown. >> it is time for us to stop worrying and start working. the man has made a decision, until he decides otherwise, that is the nominee. the other thing i think is important to point out, i mentioned there is a system, process, protocol in place god forbid should something happen to the president, he has a number two and it is called the vice president and her name is kamala harris.
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>> reporter: remember that the biden campaign is admitting the last few weeks have been tough, admitting a slip in support but they are vowing that the president is going to stay in e ard from the president directly himself in a statement yesterday say that he looks forward to getting back on the campaign trail next week. privately, we know the conversations that are ongoing are different. we know from sources familiar with that presidents thinking, he feels sad, the trade by these growing calls from his democratic colleagues. we know from sources familiar with with the conversations ongoing within the biden family, they are talking about what possible exit by president biden would potentially look like, they are factoring in things like the president's health, stability of the democratic party in whether he will make that decision. >> thank you for that, please standby, another couple questions. let's go down julie tsirkin from capitol hill. if capitol hill representative mark tor:con oh making it 36
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democrats in congress calling for biden to exit the race, all of whom are democrats, what are you hearing not only from democrats but voters? >> reporter: that is the most important piece of this, even as i talked to democrats, talking to lawmakers of the last several weeks, it comes back to what they are hearing from constituents back home and they spent a lot of time back home, the last week on recess over the last few weeks, they have also been home hearing from voters after the debate performance. there is a level of frustration, some democrats, who are riding with biden no matter what, calling up the media, perhaps, other democratic colleagues in their words perpetuating the narrative that biden made the decision but why are we still asking him to step aside? as we heard from all the reporting, privately is at a different picture than what we see play out publicly. it is notable that 36 democrats that called on him to step
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aside publicly, many more lying in wait privately. it comes back to voters and what they are saying. here's a part of my conversation with some democrats i spoke to in the swing battleground state of pennsylvania over the last two days. do you think that president biden should be at the top of the ticket, should stay in the race after that debate performance? >> absolutely. the reason being, what is the alternative? if we don't vote against the republican party right now, we have no democracy left, in my opinion. >> reporter: what you make of the conversations of people saying that he should exit the race? >> i would vote for him on a ventilator. >> reporter: that last woman, though her comments were colorful, she said that because she thinks, what is the alternative here? a few months away from november, it is not biden that she is behind, it is the democratic party as a whole. if he is the nominee, she is with him here. i want to quickly point out,
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the first sound bite you saw, maybe you saw the boy standing on the right of your screen he is 18 years old, voting for the first time in november and he is completely undecided. it is those voters, the young folks, the independents, not necessarily the democrats that will vote for biden no matter what, that the party is thinking about and worrying about, especially as easy to democrats that have come out and called on biden to pass the torch. >> i did notice him, the woman you spoke with was his mom, i'm sure they will have conversations in the next couple months. thank you. stay where you are, we will be back with you in a second. i will bring eugene daniels, msnbc lyrical interviewer, morning joe contributor, political white house correspondent, and playbook coauthor, anything you else -- else you want to add? how big a deal is that the clintons are throwing support behind president biden? >> it is interesting because you have other leaders who are the opposite, pelosi and schumer, obama working behind the scenes to do the exact opposite.
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i will say that president clinton and hillary clinton both have a lot of sway within the democratic party, a lot of sway with donors, that is who they are talking to, telling donors not to give up on him, telling aides and other people. it got to us at playbook, allie talked about it, they also want, their deferential to whatever president biden's decision is, that decision is to stay in the race, they feel good about that and i think the most important aspect of this, you talk about the 36 democrats, a lot of these people saw the same poles we did for a long time, most democrats did not want president biden to run anyway but they were not saying anything before that, they took the debate performance. however, voters have been concerned he was too old, voters concerned he could not do it again because of his age. they decided to ignore the will
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of their own voters in polls. the dmc and the process we ended up having in the primary worked to the benefit of president biden, which is abnormal for an incumbent. there were calls, he called himself a transitional figure. now they are flipping on that because of that one debate performance. him and his folks, at least publicly, our dug in. >> that may not be the only concern expressed, we will dive into your recent article that came in like an hour ago, it is called, can she win? why kamala harris cannot shake doubts about her political future. can you elaborate about the struggle to instill confidence in her own party amid the questions about who will be the nominee? >> reporter: you talk to senior democrats and democratic donors, they don't always pay as much attention as we all are to a lot of the things happening. they see and hear the big narratives. she has struggled to shake the concerns democratic donors and
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key leaders in the party have from 2019, when her own presidential campaign struggled, the first couple years of the administration where she struggled publicly, the kind of memes and things. the counter to that, you can see with your own eyes, we have seen it especially, since the june 27th debate, vice president much more comfortable, someone who can make a really strong argument in defense of president biden, she is sticking by him, obviously. laying out the stakes of the election. a lot of what i hear from folks behind the scenes, democrats, who want joe biden to come out publicly, they don't know if she is ready. they don't know if anyone is ready. they are not sure, according to polling, anyone consistently doing better than president biden or winning against former president donald trump to make this risky move. i will say, the don't biden folks, to have
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to talk, they're talking a lot about the process. they have to talk about leave, the rules committee can make a rule to change things, do what we want to the convention with the delegates. it is not easily understandable for most voters and president biden, it is a lot, he has 14 million votes, they voted that with president and vice president kamala harris been a part of that ticket. trying to get voters to understand that you can throw out president biden and vice president kamala harris, the supporters say, it is difficult, maybe impossible for voters to understand. because they say, you throughout our votes. that is something that dump biden crowd has to deal with. they have not thought about it that much, when i'm talking to folks, as they are trying to push him out, that is something that needs to be top of mind, how do you explain it to voters? >> one after another article where you report kamala harris'
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allies are preparing her defense. what are those allies, what are they doing behind the scenes to guarantee she would move to the top of the ticket if president biden exits the race? >> reporter: the list is members of the cdc, civil rights leaders, allies riding with her for a while defending her publicly over the years. they have been both organically and also unorganized and disjointed, working behind the scenes to find ways to make sure if something were to happen, she would be at the top of the ticket. one, something really important, vice president harris ' team and her are not involved in this, there cannot be any whiff of her maneuvering, did not blessed the people organizing. what would the campaign look like, the people she would hire, do you toss out the folks on the biden/harris team now and install your own folks or keep with them to keep consistency? what would her electorate look like, most importantly, what is her message and brand, her bio?
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how do you tell that story? the thing that people often think about vice president harris is her going and talking about reproductive access around the country since dobbs came down and roe v. wade fell. other things they want to highlight, i started realizing that having conversations with folks about her, the vice presidential pick on the republican side, j.d. vance, and their different views on abortion, how that might be beneficial. multiple sources continue to say to me, eugene, don't try to pigeonhole into just abortion, talk about her 150 foreign trips that she is been on, talking about what she has done -- all of the accomplishments she is a more wholesome candidate, all of these things happening behind the scenes just in case they are worried leaders will push for her to not be at the top of the ticket. >> it would need to be done like yesterday if this were to happen.
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no pressure. allie, the issue of who would replace biden is creating a deep division within the democratic party, what with that process of assigning a new nominee even look like? >> reporter: there's a big difference with what this would look like on paper and how messy the process would get given how unprecedented this is, there is no playbook for this. we remember the biden campaign has said that they are not having any discussions about a backup option to the president. we have seen some lawmakers come out and publicly support vice president harris as the backup option, a huge factor that would play into that would be an endorsement by president biden if and when he decides to step down. we are also seeing this other option that some democratic lawmakers are in favor of this mini primary were essentially any democrat could throw their hat into the ring, potentially very messy process. some of the lawmakers in favor of that process say it is
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simply because i don't think vice president harris is the one that is best suited to face off against former president donald trump in november him and some of them don't want this to appear as if it is a coronation for vice president harris, they are concerned about how that could reflect among the public or how that could reflect in polling at the end of the day, the delegates are the ones who decided the nominee is and we expect a virtual roll call to take place the first week of august. if that does not happen, a nominee is not chosen on that call, we would have to wait until the democratic convention in chicago that starts august 19th. time is ticking, time is sensitive. >> 100%. julie, with the list of democrats calling on the president to leave the race is on the rise, which weighs momentum going on capitol hill? i think the list keeps growing. >> reporter: i did not get into journals and because i'm good at math, 11 democrats coming out just since the former president's rnc speech calling
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on president biden to exit the race, that is a big chunk of the 36, that should send alarm bells blaring to the biden campaign and biden team. the members that compromised his 11 alone the last 36 hours or so include one senator who is up for re-election in ohio, sherrod brown, steadfast ally and supporter president biden. zoe lofgren, institution of the democratic party on capitol hill. somebody, by the way, very close friends and allies with speaker emerita nancy pelosi, who is not her thumb on the scale in any which reaction except to say it is president biden's choice. at the end of the day, that is what the democrats are saying. however, they will come back to capitol hill on monday and tuesday, they have benjamin netanyahu, the prime minister of israel coming to speak to them on wednesday. foreign leader in town. privately, there really worried and nervous, they want president biden to make a decision, though he already has.
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allotted up in the air for the biden team and democrats. >> you can count the important stuff on capitol hill, that is what we rely on you for, thank you, julie, allie, eugene, appreciate all of you. breaking news, the israeli army says it struck several houthi targets in western yemen, significant flames and smoke can be seen coming from the scene. it comes after yesterday's deadly drone attack on tel aviv. today's air strikes appear to be the first yemeni soil since the israel hamas war began in october. we will keep you updated on developments. it was red meat but also nothing burger? what did you gain from the long speech at the republican convention? we are back in a quick 90 seconds.
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one week to the day since assassination attempt at donald trump rally in pennsylvania. gearing up for the former president and his running mate to return to the stage in a few hours. vaughn hillyard is in grand rapids. the rally will be held indoors this time, are people expecting a lot of safety checks, any concerns by anyone attending? >> reporter: that's right. very little concern among the attendees here. what we heard was acknowledgment from folks that believed secret service, law enforcement would ramp up their presence. coming to downtown grand rapids, even on some of the
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buildings, parking garages, we saw law enforcement presence looking down and every person we talked to, they were mostly, overwhelmingly confident that the presence here would be secure and they felt it necessary to be here in solidarity with donald trump and his new running mate. we are expecting them both to take the stage in just under two hours from now. take a listen to a few of our conversations. >> trump is the man for the job. it is because of what we had seen at the attempt on his life is that he showed absolute power to the country. he showed us what strength looks like. i think when other people look at america, they see strength in him. >> reporter: watching what happened last week, did you guys have an anxiety coming here today? >> no, not at all. i think it is more secure today than last week, obviously because of what happened.
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you know, it does not matter, they will try to take shots, we will still support him no matter what. >> reporter: you're still coming to the rally, you will be there? >> hell yeah. >> reporter: there are thousands inside the arena, the pre-speakers begin the rally here in grand rapids. we expect j.d. vance, their first joint appearance before j.d. vance starts going doing his own solo rallies including ohio and virginia this week. today is a defining moment, the crowd overwhelmingly confident in their candidate's chances with just over 100 days until the general election. it is exuding among the crowd here, one week ago they watched their would be nominee, now formal nominee, almost be killed by an assassin. now they will be watching themselves, watching donald trump take the stage for the first time since accepting the nomination. 48 hours ago in milwaukee at that condition. >> vaughn hillyard wrapping everything up at grand rapids,
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thank you. joining me now to break down donald trump performance at the rnc, axios political reporter. it was a long speech on thursday night from donald trump, the longest nomination acceptance speech on record, 92 minutes, 12,000 words. the reaction so far, meandering, incoherent after the first few minutes, flat out boring. what are you hearing? >> reporter: it was almost two speeches put together, not only because of the length of the time trump was speaking at the rnc, also clear tone shift, 30 minutes into the speech, it is important to remember, this could have been a huge moment for trump, who was listening to former opponents and people at various places throughout the republican party come up and speak and unify the party around trump in contrast to democrats who have clearly been
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divided over whether biden is really the best candidate moving forward. instead, it started off in emotional setting, i remember thinking to myself at the beginning, who is this, more quiet reserved trump who spoke emotionally about what went down on saturday at his rally when he was shot? then it kind of meandered from there, there was a shift and we reverted back to the old trump we all know who continue to give his typical campaign speech, going off script, being boring, which is not something we are used to seeing out of the former presidents. >> have any trump insiders then consider critical that trump missed an opportunity to hit democrats at this time? >> reporter: people are going to say this was a great speech, we have seen outwardly, most republicans are behind trump and feel like it did not matter it was a big moment of unity for the party all week.
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some have admitted it went too long, they wish she stuck to the first part of that speech, the moment most compelling. you could tell being in the room that people were captured by the first part and cared about hearing the story from his perspective of the assassination attempt. what we've seen so far, at least publicly, republicans are consuming to tout their unity around the president but there is no question, this left open the possibility this is still a race until november. it was not closing the door on competition which it could have been. >> it was like on details, there were details trump did not hammer on, key election issues like abortion, gun rights. was that strategic? >> reporter: certainly on the abortion issue, we know that the former president has been very careful in the way he talks about abortion. he has said that he will leave the issue to the states.
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it is notable, at the convention, there was a vote on the new republican platform, for the first time in 40 years, does not include a national ban on abortion. i was on the ground and spoke to republican delegates from states around the country who have decided they are in favor of that shift for the republican party. they are okay with the idea of leaving this to the states. we have seen that shift from trump and republicans saying that we know what we need to do on this, try to avoid the topic, knowing it is a difficult issue for them electorally, they have seen losses at the polls time and time again since the overturning of roe v wade. >> stef kight, thank you very much, always good to see you. when mike president biden returned to the campaign trail and how kenny move past those asking them to get out of the race? kevin munoz, senior spokesman for the biden/harris campaign will join me coming up with some answers.
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new today, ap reports former late-night host david letterman set to headline a fundraiser with president biden later this month as the president, so far, resisting calls for him to exit the race and recover from his covid.mrs. joining me in the city of kevin munoz, senior spokesperson for the biden/harris campaign. welcome. can you tell us how the president is feeling and when he plans to return to the campaign trail? >> the president is feeling better, he has gotten covid before, we all have gotten covid before, i can tell you no one is more excited to get back on the campaign trail than joe biden. it is a secret sauce, he loves talking to voters. we are not waiting for that, the election will be decided by person to person, community to community conversations. that is what we are doing, 2000 events this weekend and talking about the issues that matter most to voters. they don't look like the same ones happening at washington or wilmington, there about abortion rights, project 2025, lowering costs, we think that
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is what will matter. >> what about the good news with hillary and bill clinton during their support behind him , that was just announced, how is the president reacting to the show of support in times that has to be hurtful, if not anger inducing, he has people he felt he could rely on, that he helped in the past as well, turning a bit? >> the president has been in politics sometimes and he understands it is not anything personal. it is about winning and beating donald trump, winning is critical of course. having the backbone of the party that represents the voters with the most at stake in the election. before he had covid this week and he was in nevada, with the cdc, the chc, these are elected officials that represent the communities that know we cannot talk about hypotheticals, we have to talk about what the choice is in the election because their committees are the ones most impacted if trump sets foot back in the oval office. >> how quickly do we need to get past this?
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i can appreciate if you say yesterday. >> it is yesterday. honestly, look at our campaign, 100,000 doors talking to voters in battleground states. he was old before the debate and he is old now. what they care about is hearing more about the choice in this election. they want to know, tell me who is running and what are the issues that matter? we view those issues being lowering costs, creating jobs, protecting rights, on all of those issues, joe biden has a vision and story to tell, donald trump, was out of the convention in milwaukee, no vision on the issues that matter, all he wants to do is divide. >> would donald trump him of that is normal. that is normal for him, we rarely hear policy or details, we hear a lot of lather, we hear lies, ginning up the crowd. when you come to joe biden, you expect a man, who is been in politics this long, to give you
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the details, to give you the facts, to give you the policy, and he does. is he being held to a different standard than donald trump? >> we know how donald trump is, how some members of the media treat him, there's a lot of interest in unifying message that would come from him on thursday night, we did not see that. >> are you surprised? given what he experienced, did you believe, he might be a changed man? >> what i can say on that, the president is in the race because of political violence, he got into the race in 2020 because of what happened in charlottesville, he is in it because of january 6th and the fight for our democracy. what i can tell you, it is really important for joe biden, for democrats, any american that cares about the future of this country, to put this back to the choice that matters to the american people what we saw on the convention stage was terrifying. we saw the architect of family separation get a prime time speaking slot, thanks a donald trump. i did not see coverage of that because people are focused on
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the things, that frankly, are not the issues that matter to americans. when they get home at night, we went to reese in that conversation. >> campaign initiative matters is money, word is the campaign took in half of what they hoped to from the big donors in this last month. how can you run a campaign without the kind of money you need, what is your strategy for bringing these big donors back under the biden intent? >> we are excited to announce the letterman fundraiser you brought up, another fundraiser coming up in chicago at the end of the month. he will be in southern and northern california, i know you are from southern california. he will be doing big fundraisers and focusing on continuing to bolster grassroots fundraising. you would not of thought the first week of this month, right after the debate, would be our strongest start to grassroots fundraising. it was. you know why, our base understands it is bigger than one debate, bigger than one moment, it is about the future of our country. >> when it comes to the foibles, you try to compare the speeches and the doctrine, or
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lack thereof, donald trump puts forward, you compare that with joe biden, is it fair to keep them on the same level? yes, it is fair for americans, that is what we should expect. it seems like donald trump gets a pass, all of the fact checking for him and the lies that he puts forward, they get a pass, it is baked into the cake. >> i think we very much understand how to run against donald trump because we were the ones that did last time and we won. we are not here to be media critics, what we can say is we have to focus, again, on the ground game. the paid media efforts, the efforts that are person-to-person, breakthrough of challenging political moment, divided electric, fragmented media environment, get the facts in front of the voters and we have a good story to tell. we have to unite as a coalition like we did in 2020 and bring that message to voters because we know when we do, talk about project 2025 or affirmative
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vision joe biden has a for the future of our democracy, it is one that brings in voters. >> when do we expect to see the president again, where will he appear? i know he has to be cleared from covid, he is feeling better by his doctors account, we got the letter. >> as soon as he can travel, get into the west coast, some of the swing states that matter like georgia or pennsylvania, he will be there as soon as he can. >> kevin munoz, senior campaign spokesperson for the biden campaign, thanks for joining me. safe travels, you're a busy guy. secret service director gearing up to appear before congress on monday, the questions will likely face. the latest on the investigation coming up next.
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up on the roof, there he is right there. >> video posted to tiktok, rallier should notice the
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shooter two minutes before shots were fired. identifying features of the building and location of the tree in the video, we could tell it was filmed 200 feet from the shooter. the gunman on the rooftop of the nearby glass and plastics company, 450 feet from president trump. in that same video, one officer appears to be walking along the building, another standing nearby. >> is a clip from the digital documentary on the attended assassination of donald trump, analyzing social media video and telling the story from the perspective of witnesses. we are learning new details today, investigators say that the suspect fluid drown above the butler, pennsylvania rally venue hours before trump walked on stage. the fbi and department of homeland security warned of potential retaliation and 62 minutes past between police first spotted the suspect and when the for shots rang out. monday, secret service director kim cheatle will appear before the house oversight committee. let's bring msnbc law
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enforcement analyst, former secret service special agent national security journalist, and author of becoming bulletproof, life lessons from a secret service agent. i'm glad you're here, and here to ask you what questions you would ask the secret service director amberley cheadle, if you're in the house committee, what is burning on your mind, that you've got to know? >> reporter: would want to know what the security plan was, what they created, there's a paper trail you can follow, logistics, drawings, diagrams, there is that and the conversations had between the secret service and local law enforcement, what was agreed upon, and what actually ended up happening. i think that is where a bit of a hiccup lies, a plan was put into place, it seems like there is an issue with communication, it also seems the assets that should have been located to that building, perhaps, were not located or designated to that building. that is really what i would want to know, the plan put in place, the plan that came into
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fruition. >> either questions she could face impossible to answer right now without a completed investigation?'s >> reporter: i feel it is complete at this point, when you did the advances, you have to think of u.s. secret service, the conductor of the orchestra and they have other entities, local law enforcement, state police that work with them so ultimately, they absorb that information. i don't know how much more in depth you need to go other than speaking with law enforcement, talking to the agents that put the site plan together, also advanced team that goes out, they go out a week before so they're the ones that talk to the locals, i think that is what is going to set the tone. what conversations did they have? quite honestly, text messages or emails, if there is any information or anything tangible the u.s. secret service can show, i communicated with this law enforcement entity, this is what we agreed upon or vice
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versa, there is nothing to confirm that. looking at those things to confirm and solidify what the story actually is. >> there are some, this is disturbing, right-wing figures blaming the female secret service agents with trump the day of the assassination attempt, dredging sexist and strange anti-dei rhetoric. homeland security director along with others including the secret service director released a statement today saying that the assertions made are insulting and baseless. i have to think you agree with that too, what goes through your mind when you hear that? >> reporter: i will say this, if you're going to be an agent to meet all the physical standards, male or female. that is one thing i agree with that, everybody has to be physically fit and mentally fit to do the job. the latter thing i would say is this, if it is a gender thing, played that gender blame game, let's play it right. who were the law enforcement officials who spotted the shooter and neglected to say anything right away and also
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lost line of sight? who are the individuals who did not pass the information to the u.s. secret service about the suspicious person until 40 minutes later? who are the law enforcement officials positioned at the staging area, where the individual took the shot, i think we saw it a little bit of the video? it seemed like they were no to me, i could be wrong. i also want to know who were the decision-makers who had president trump take the stage, despite knowing all of these things were happening? if they are all women, fair game, habit the conversation. but if they are not, there are all men, you might want to have a very different conversation. >> is there any other way to classify what happened other than a serious security failure? who is going to be held responsible for, do you expect resignations, and if so, who? >> reporter: i want to say this, i saw the footage from the rnc, i understand the heat but director is taking, at the same time, saw the footage of
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the senators harassing and following the director, she is the director of the u.s. secret service, there is a time and place to have these discussions. they are going to do it, they are going to have a hearing, i saw that video, i was quite taken aback because everyone is talking about the vitriol and the hate, turning it down, yet i'm watching these senators harass a lead director, a person dedicated, not a woman, a person who dedicated her life to serving and protecting others. to be treated by that either public officials and also too, what tone are they setting? we want to set a better time for people to follow so we don't have this divisiveness? yet you are on the rnc for, not the time or place to do this, actually if you watch the video from the beginning, you can hear the director listening, nodding, and saying to them at one point, this is not the time or place. we can have the discussion elsewhere. i think these are really important things to keep in mind, whether they want her to resign or not, there should be a certain level class and tach and respect for someone who
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dedicated their life to serving their country and their people. >> your 100% right, there should be that. do you think she will keep her job? >> i don't know. to be frank, i have seen homeland security, mayorkas took a lot of heat and has seen a lot of look officials demanding his resignation and he is still there. i think it might also be on her, whether she wants to endure this or not. it all depends, is there a security issue? there is, nobody can deny this i think what needs to come out is what happened, i suspect a lot of the issue will be toward local law enforcement, it is not to blame, here's the thing, this is the conundrum the secret services in, they need local law enforcement, you work with them, you cannot do it alone. you need their help. if they truly, if there was a mix-up there or a mistake made on that part, have you put that out front and hopefully the
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investigation will reveal that so the director is not put in the spot to say, this department is in charge at the same time, you have that clarity . if somebody else did make that mistake, yes, you own it, you're the director, i understand. yes have to put out there who did what and what decisions were made. >> 100%, evy poumpouras. fact checking outlandish claims donald trump made, a leading economist with his take , next. the world might not be ready for them... ...but at $3 a pop? your wallet definitely is. power outages can be unpredictable, inconvenient, and disruptive to your life, posing a real threat to your family's comfort and safety. when the power goes out, you have no lights, no refrigeration, no heating or air conditioning. the winds are not letting up at all here. we're going to see some power outages. number one thing to prepare for is extended power outages.
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there are growing alarms over the impacts donald trump's economic plans could have if he returns to the white house. in a speech, at the republican national convention on thursday, trump made sweeping promises to inject inflation, redirect infrastructure spending, and impose steep tariffs, largely avoided policy details and stuck to crowdpleasing talking points. >> we will end the ridiculous and actually incredible waste
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of taxpayer dollars viewing the inflation crisis that they spent trillions of dollars on things having to do with the green new scam, it is a scam, that has caused tremendous inflationary pressures. under my plan, incomes will skyrocket, inflation will vanish completely, jobs will come roaring back and the middle class will prosper like never ever before and we are going to do it very rapidly. >> joining me as chief economist mark sandy. let's dig into this, trump's america first agenda, adopted as republican party 2024 platform including plans such as 10% tariff on imported goods, deporting millions of undocumented workers, extending those 2017 tax cuts heavily slanted to benefit the wealthy. recent study predicting what a trump win and gop sweep would mean for the economy.
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tell us what you found relative first to the trump terrace with 60% le'veon imports from china, how would that affect prices and inflation and the overall economy? >> it would add to inflation, tariffs are a tax on the american consumer. particularly lower middle income consumers, spend a large share of budgets on food, apparel, cut appliances, consumer electronics, vehicles, that kind of thing. if you're importing, you have to pay that terrace, it adds to the cost of that particular good so it adds to inflation. the tariffs, it is 10% across the board terrace the former president was talking about, 60% tariff on chinese imports, that would be highly inflationary and add significantly to inflation. >> it would drain people's pocketbooks, they would pay more for things that they are
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paying for now? >> it is effectively a tax. if you have to pay more for the iphone or the microwave oven, that pair of shoes, that means i have less to spend on everything else. just like a tax. it is the same thing. >> let's tackle trump's promise to deport millions of undocumented workers, how would that affect the labor force in certain economic sectors and what kind of ripple effect would that have on the overall economy? >> a lot of people, different estimates, between 10,000,015 of undocumented immigrants in the country, very tight market, businesses struggling to find workers and retain workers and lots of industry, agriculture, manufacturing, transportation, distribution, retail and hospitality, childcare, eldercare committees industries are really starved for workers and relying heavily on these immigrants from other countries to take those jobs and work. if
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they are deported, that makes it very untenable for the businesses, costs will rise, inflation is going to pick up as a result. it would be highly disruptive. obviously, it depends on how it is actually implemented, how many folks would be affected. all of that being equal, it would also add to inflation. >> even beyond economically, this would reduce the ability to even have many of the services. you don't have the workers, you can't employ them. >> especially in this economy and the unemployment rate is 4.1%, that is great, full employment, everyone has a job and wage growth is strong so it in that context, if you require millions of folks to leave, that is a pretty big hole in the economy. whatever gets done will be more costly and expensive for everybody. >> hard to find your babysitter
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or hard to help with eldercare for your parents. when you get to the 27 tax cuts that would increase the deficit, already at a level never before been seen during a period of peace and high employment, how would the tax cuts affect the middle and lower middle class households? >> the former president talking about extending the tax cuts for individuals, as you know, under current law, they expire at the end of next year for everybody, lower, middle, high income households. talking about cutting the corporate tax great -- rate, he cut it from 35% to 21. the discussion is 21 to 15. it is not clear how you would pay for that, presumably some of the higher tariffs, they are like a tax so they generate revenue for the government could be used to defray the cost of tax cuts but not all of the cost so you're adding to
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the budget deficit and debt load. an economy running full out, full employment you add this kind of juice, to inflation, you take the tariffs, the deportations, the tax deficit tax cuts, you add that up and that means inflation is going up and not down. >> mark zandi, i always have questions for you, come see me again. many thanks. that will do it for this edition of alex wood reports. katie turner will be in for me next time. up next is the beat the weekend. ts to known for canc, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer, fda-approved for 17 types of cancer. one of those cancers is advanced nonsquamous, non-small cell lung cancer, where keytruda is approved to be used with certain chemotherapies as your first treatment if you do not have an abnormal “egfr” or “alk” gene.
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