what trent meant to these kids. young adults now. and what they mean to us. it has been a blessing. >> they all get together and laugh and tell stories. and imagine. >> i'm sure he would have been magnificent as an adult, just like he was when he was a teenager. i am angry that i don't up >> all the adult things we have had the opportunity to share with each other. >> when i get rid of those been feeling, the underlying feelings of gratitude that he was in my life for a brief moment in time. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm andrea canning. thank you for watching. watchin

conversations you might have missed. jonathan martin, let's ed begin with you. reaction from milwaukee, reaction from the aaron from everything we are hearing from r biden world? >> welcome i think that there is an extraordinary scene, joe, that we have not in a mop modern american politics, whichs is one party's convention totally eclipsed by the other party that shattered in and around the convention was not nd about jd vance, it was you know what? biden maybe forced to drop out and plotting asked what the an implications of that are, housing he could go and then whether or not he lays hands on his vp for trying to win her as his successor and then their convention in chicago and what o it looks like. that is the conversation here, at least with the political process, the delegates, obviously are still enraptured by all things back, but joe, hi

the operative class is transfixed by this story taking place. >> you know, jonathan, we have been quoting you. so, q this might be like a funn winston churchill quote, but so, if you haven't ever really said this, i will take credit for it, because i like it. you see, donald trump eustace with republicans and unite democrats now it is the opposite, he is uniting republicans and dividing democrats. talk about the second part of that equation, just how divided democrats are in your reporting, nancy pelosi, what she has been doinge and how much longer this can give you? >> joe, i think there will be books written someday about the ark of nancy pelosi's career and i think this will be at least a couple of chapters. the former speaker of the housee and 70 who, by the way, when she was going to retire after the 2022 midterms biden talked to her on the phone and

suggested that she not retire and she stated speaker, now, less than two years later, she is, in some ways leading the plot against her friend, and as biden calls her, his catholic sister and trying to get him off the ballot. look, it is no accident that adam schiff went on meet the we press. it is no accident that adam schiff yesterday came out on a statement fully calling for g biden to call out of the race, he is a lieutenant. so i think what is happening here is that she, and other high-ranking democrats, joe, are convinced that there is no africa by win this fall, and, he will take another democrats e on the ballot with him him and are trying to get him off the ballot, without publicly calling for him to drop out of the race, but doing everything just short of that. it has been a three-week campaign, obviously biden has dug in, but they are now turning to extreme measures, look at what happened yesterday, that flurry of leaks that came out in about a five

hour period, all designed to increase the pressure on biden to ensure joe that he can't run out the clock, which has been oc his strategy for the last couple of weeks here, so, we are now and i think the critical hours of this campaign, this campaign to force biden off of the ballot and i think now between the k first of august will be crunch time. >> jeff greenfield, i was on the show, from atlanta the th morning after and a couple of democrats had told me overnight and in the wake of that disastrous performance, they believed president biden would be in and that he would fight, the one thing they said that could change his mind is a congressional leadership said, hey, if you stay in you will cost us both houses of congress, that has no happened as jonathan just detailed, coordinated leaks, seemingly coordinated leaks yesterday coming at the end of three weeks where president biden ande his team have really tried to e turn the page and try to show you still up for the job, he has delivered some successful

performances, but it seems likef democrats simply haven't bought it, what you think? as you know isolated delaware, y how does this tell play out? >> you know, it occurred to me that this is the 50th anniversary of the debut of rubik's cube, that device that drove many of us crazy. and the democrats are facing-- the democrats are facing a th classic rubik's cube issue. whatever they try to do to adjust this, the other side says wait a minute, what about that? well, let get rid teof biden, y have hundreds of delegates who are unhappy about that. people, lane harris and a lot of democrats she is run going to run no better than biden, but if you create a fresh team, the most loyal base of the democratic party will say wait o a minute, now that there is a black woman vice president she c can step up to the top and the only thing that occurs to me that is mildly encouraging with democrats is that i think back to 1968, hubert humphrey came out of a bitterly divided convention 15 points behind

richard nixon with no money and came up with the point of winnie, had nixon not treacherously played games with the government humphrey could have won. but to try to figure out a way out in an era, where there are no powerbrokers that can say, here's a ticket, if they try a mini primary, a kind of you know, competition, like a talent show at the democratic convention, they are right now, i think in a incredible pickle and the one saving grace for them is the country still doesn't want to put donald trump back in the white house. there is a road to victory, but trying to figure out how that re works with all of these different rubik's cube terms, frankly, i don't have a good answer to that either. >> so, it appears donald trump, as jeff just said, simon, as a ceiling which, for democrats could be good news. a fresh team, a fresh team

would be completely unknown, a l fresh team would be completely and tested. a fresh team would not have had the experience of how to be donald trump and a fresh team would not be vetted. so, to me, that leaves you with vice president,, lane harris. she has her strength and i would say on the debate stage she has tremendous strength. and she has perceived weaknesses. the question i would have is, is this the most seamless way to go, and which you have the backing of former presidents and stoners right away? what would be the most seamless? >> well, honestly, mika, the most seamless is that everybodya backs up and joe biden days on the ballot, but it feels like-- and let me just tell you, i talked to a lot of delegates over the last 24 and 48 hours, a lot of dnc members, you know, former colleagues and where the people are within the party is,

the delegates at the convention are saying they are still backing joe biden, they are true blue delegates. and what i have heard people say they don't understand what is happening in terms of why is our family business, as someone said, playing out on national television and so that is one piece, the other piece is so, it seems like the tide is really flowing again president, and he is resolute in that position to his candidacy. so the question becomes in a standoff, who is going to blink first and in the event that president biden blinks, he is saying right now, his people are saying, he is not blinking, he is in this, and i 1000% s, believe what they are saying, that is how he feels and that is how they all you'll. but in the event that joe biden is like -- as long as i swim i will get more-- the vice president is the only natural choice, but what i there's a lot of concern from the members

about the money and what can be raised him and i have heard from people who say that i don't think the vice president can win. and jeff made a point that i want to underscore, what does say? what does it say to the base of the democratic party apparatus that, yes, a black woman can be vice president of the united dates of america, but you da cannot at the top job. there's just something about it that says she can't do the work even though she has been doing the work. you know, when the united states got into a little tussle with france because of the submarines in australia, it was vice president harris-- the president asked to go to france to smooth things over with president emmanuel macron. before putin invaded ukraine, it was vice president harris that went to the munich th security conference and again gave a rousing rally rallying cry and warned our european allies about what was to happen and how the united dates was going to lead. and so i just-- i don't understand it, mika, this conversation about anybody besides the president and what i will say is if joe biden b

canceled against the tide anymore, it would be him, i think to, strongly and say what he has been thing, every time he has been asked about the vice president the last week he said i think she could be nk president, so joe biden should say, in my opinion if you want i me out you need to show me a plan to make sure-- until i see that i'm not going. >> all right. more morning joe weekend after a quick rake. ick rake. every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪ you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stresses just melt away. i hear that. this bad boy can fix anything. yep, tough day at work, nice cruise will sort you right out. when i'm riding, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity. well, you shouldn't ignore that. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills, i just hop on the bike, man. oh, come on, man, you got to pay your bills. you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number-one motorcycle insurer.

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this movement of hours going to succeed at this country is going to thrive, our leaders have to remember that america is a nation and it citizens deserve leaders who put its interest first. republican vice presidential nominee, jd vance, with an america first message in his acceptance speech last night at the rnc. just which allies is he exactly talking about? meanwhile, russia's top diplomat appears to approve of jd vance, as donald trump posting my running mate. that is my point. at the u.n. and new york yesterday, russia's foreign minister, sergei lavrov, when asked about russia's position toward ukraine, sergei lavrov said he is in favor of peace, in favor of ending the assistance that has been provided and we can only welcome back. sergei lavrov went on to say

that what russia needs is for ukraine to be stop being pumped full of weapons and then the war will end. he has long been a critic of ukraine and he has here's what he told steve bannon in february of 2022, when russia was about to launch its full- scale invasion of ukraine and he was still a candidate for senate in ohio. >> when i graduate from high school in 2003, two kids on my block graduate high school 2003. both of us enlisted in the u.s. marine corps. we did not get served in the marine corps to go and fight vladimir putin because he didn't believe in transgender rights that is what the u.s. state department is saying is a major problem with russia. at the end of the day, we serve to defend our own country. i think it is ridiculous that we are focused on this bordering ukraine. i have got to be honest with you i don't really care what happens to ukraine one way or another. >> joining us now, president emeritus of the council of former foreign relations,

richard haas and former aide to the george w. bush white house and state department >> what i will say as he certainly is lined up with what's donald trump was. he can score and allies and doing the bidding of our enemies or at least appearing to do the bidding of our enemies. you know, donald trump would always attack democratically elected governments and talk about how great putin was and she and kim jong-un. welcome you look at jd vance, he said that, which of course makes the kremlin thrilled. he also has recently said that britain is the first islamist crunchy to have a nuclear weapon, because he doesn't like the fact that your summer has a diverse government. fascinating of course.

i guess-- i don't know, maybe it wasn't in the history book when he was growing up that pakistan already has a nuclear weapon? but be that as it may, here we have again, somebody, whose words provide aid and comfort to russia, who is attacking. a democratically elected western government that is one of our strongest allies. >> lots to say, joe. just to begin with where he began. he experiences with iraq and says that is why he doesn't support ukraine, but iraq in 2003 was a war of choice by the united states and what ukraine is doing is a but we have sent thousands and thousands of trip to iraq. we have not sent one trip, we are helping ukraine indirectly

and over the two and half years, thanks to our help it has been a remarkable success. if you look at the territorial, you know, who controls what after two and half years of fighting, ukraine because of its efforts they have helped russia to a standstill, so i think this has been a remarkable success for western- - for american foreign policy and if we allow russia to win there, then russia would not necessarily be content. and then with challenge nato and then what? then we would have to challenge with responding troops. >> well, richard, yes, then american troops are put in a position to defend other countries in europe and american troops die, it costs us more money. this is-- bluntly, this is like us getting out of iraq overnight, and creating a vacuum and into that vacuum came isis. that is something donald trump talks about all the time. this morning also the wall

street journal editorial page rightly questions donald trump's abandonment of taiwan, saying basically we are not going to do anything for taiwan. this is the wall street journal editorial page says this position will end up causing american lives. these shortcuts that they are talking about it is just like 10% tariffs which a massive taxes on the american people, really stupid policies that may sound good in a soundbite, but if you think through it as a wall street journal editorial page it ends up costing americans more money, more lives , more hardship. whether it is the abandonment of the centerpiece of our asia policy in taiwan, or turning over central europe to russia. >> if you read the full bloomberg interview it is quite stunning. essentially the president dismisses our ability, president trump to make it clear, to defend taiwan. he talks about the

impossibility of it. and basically sees taiwan of an economic competitor or adversary. what this tells you than his two things, is actually emblematic. one is trump team sees the world through this narrow economic prison. it is as if geopolitics and history never happened. everybody is an economic competitor. all that matters is trade. and if they are producing things it is better for us, because anything other than american manufacturing is unacceptable. secondly, they seem not to care about geopolitics. so, what do they think would happen if china moves against taiwan and we weren't there to help? what do they think, globally, it would mean for the security and stability for the most important part of the world and the 21st century, the asia- pacific, where the wealth and the money is? what do they think japan and korea will do? where everybody gets nuclear weapons of their own is that necessarily world that is stable? what happens to america? it is as if the last 75 years

didn't happen, people are ignoring all of the benefits we have accrued from this post- world war ii world. and they seem ready to essentially deconstructed without putting in its place. i just think this is short-term is him of a really dangerous variety. >> let's talk about the consequences of america in retreat. because what happens when america is in retreat? chaos is unleashed on the world. we are the indispensable power. let me say it again. america is the indispensable power. so, you don't have to go back long. i talked about iraq. we get out of iraq overnight what happened? it sounded good. everybody cheered and then isis goes in, bills that boyd. we have to send american troops back and we have to fight with our allies there and go door by door by door in bloody urban

warfare, to try and wipe out isis. you can also talk about syria and come back and look at this show, with us asking during the syrian civil war, how long is america going to stand by? 10,000 dead, 20,000, 50,000, 75,000, 100,000, 200,000, 400, 500,000 syrian that and we did nothing, because people were concerned that, well, we don't want to be like bush and cheney, so what happened there? not only did half-- half 1 million syrians die, arabs die, muslims i, it also unleashed the greatest humanitarian crisis since world war ii. so, there are two recent examples of america going, you know what? it is better that we just retreat, lead from behind, put up a fortress and do nothing.

but we always have to go in and clean up america posthumous whether it is isis or it is-- it is a massive humanitarian crisis, because it always ends up back on our doorstep if we try to retreat. >> you know, joe, the interesting element of what you are just saying is there is a touch of pre-world war ii isolationism on the republican party it seems. apparently they think that two oceans that are surrounded by two oceans separate us from the world, separate us from the globe and give a safety, all safety that just isn't there today, but at least you worked in a republican administration, and the fact that we are assisting ukraine against putin and the idea that we-- are not to care about ukraine, as jd vance has said, is shocking know? >> what would be the second and third order effects on the economy of we just abandoned our aid to ukraine immediately? and the ripple effect within

europe especially? i am so concerned by germany's announcement that they are going to have their aid to ukraine by 2025. i think this is the gradual direction that so many allies are going in after, i guess it has been two and half years now that ukraine has been at war, the spigot is going to end eventually, and so you have allies in signaling that they will start reducing their aid and i think that what you hear from trump and jd vance is what republican voters want right now and some democratic voters too. i have been struck during focus groups in wisconsin and michigan , by the tenor of foreign policy in this time of economic hardship. and they simply do not want to send money abroad, even though it is a very small portion of our budget, when they feel that

inflation and other problems at home aren't being addressed. >> so what means is that people who care about these issues they want to show why what happens there affects here. we have to choose goals. we have to define success in a way that is achievable. the definition of success in ukraine, we fail until ukraine is able to liberate all of the land that is left in 2014. >> not going to happen. >> we have got to choose a definition of success where we say this is an achievable goal. russia will not get what it wants. and that will become a basis for diplomacy. and if putin realizes that i think and then he will essentially be willing to compromise himself. coming up, with the approval of the supreme court at record lows, president biden is hoping to get support for a proposal to make sweeping changes to the high court, including term limits and ethics reform. we will tell you about it after a short break. break.

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joining us now, national correspondent at bloomberg businessweek, josh green. he and his colleagues sat down with donald trump for a wide ranging in review on the former president's economic plans for america if he wins in november. josh, what were some of the big takeaways from this interview? >> well, we covered a lot. what we wanted to ask trump was, if you make it back to the white house, what should we expect, both for the u.s. economy and also for the global business community generally? and in the interview trump made a ton of news. he talked about what he would do with the federal reserve and his chairman, jerome powell, a lot of people on wall street are afraid that if trump got elected he would try to fire powell. told businessweek no. in fact he intends to let powell serve out his full term. he spanned the globe he talked about his lack of awareness to

continue u.s. protection for taiwan against chinese aggression. was very clear that he intended to impose steep new round of tariffs on europe and across the globe. but what really stood out to me, mika and joe, was this time around trump knows what he is doing. he said at one point in the interview, you know, the percent ministration he was new, he didn't know all of the people around him. the quote that jumped out to me was trump said, this time i know everybody, now i am truly experienced and when you look at the erosion of joe biden's numbers and a lot of democratic numbers there is a real chance that trump could not only be elected in the fall but could also have a republican house and senate and that would allow him to implement a lot of the fairly radical policies and he talks about in this businessweek interview. >> so, josh. it is interesting.

we always hear those stories, if it is foreign-policy, general mattis or other people trying to curb some of the more -- what they consider to be extreme policy issues, we famously had gary cohen going and trying to take something and leave off of donald trump's desk. pushing back on things like tariffs, which scare the hell out of wall street and scare the five out of the editorial journalists, he is more than a mixed bag but what you are saying is there will be no gary combs, there will be no people curbing some of this sharper edges of these economic policies that played very well i think in america, but not so well among business leaders? >> joe, i think that is exactly right, the oppression i personally took away is that this time there will be no guard rails. he said in an interview, you know, i had some people serving me last time around, i didn't

know and what i wouldn't put in place again, what we know one thing about trump and the republicans while he is been off in exile is find a group of capable loyalists to stop a second trump administration and do what he wants on business and everywhere else.

i will say one thing that stood out to me about the interview, i just want to mention, given the intro. we saw jd vance's interview, full wall street economic populism. that was not the tenor that trump took in our interview. he was quite pro-wall street and a lot of senses, suggested that he would start his administration with ceos for people like doug burnham, to glenn young can, former collett group ceo and even singled out jd diamond a long time ceo of jpmorgan chase as someone he might want to serve as treasury secretary. he also talked about slashing the corporate tax rate lower than he already did the first time around. so i think for viewers who might have been put off by vance's speech, the interview that trump gave to businessweek i think shows the other sid

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the president is waiting legislation that were established and an updated code of ethics for justices any reforms the high court would require congressional approval, which remains unlikely, given republicans control of the house and democrat's inability to break a 60 vote filibuster in the senate. joining us now, a white house reporter for the washington post tyrah majors. you were first report this story, tyler, what more can you tell us? >> thank you so much for having me. that is exactly right. this is a significant shift for the president who has resisted calls for members of his own party to endorse reform to the supreme court. we are expecting him to formally back some changes in the coming weeks and i think, you know, it is obviously facing long odds of being an active and would need

congressional approval, but it still shows the way in which the supreme court has transformed its public identity over the last few years. biden resisted these calls in 2020 when running for president, he told democrats, if he was elected he would institute-- or bring together a commission to study some of these proposed reforms. they run a nearly 300 page report and then that was it. he didn't really activate at all, but as we've seen the supreme court further to the right overruling roe v wade this decision on trump's immunity we have seen its public reputation and american's approval of the decline and we've already seen the president become more critical of it and that has led us to this point where we are expecting him to finally-- democrats have long waited him to do this, through his support behind some of these reforms. >> and because they haven't gotten the decisions they wanted over the last several years many progression progressives what call for the expansion of the number of seats, the president stopped

short of that here, but what is this symbolic of in many ways, given the threshold that you would need 60 votes to do any of this and two thirds action to get constitutional amendments on some of these things? so that is unlikely, given the way that our congress is divided right now. so, is this sort of a symbolic signal to the progressive base in an election year? >> absolutely. we are not going to see the president come out in court of spent expansion, something he has long been opposed to and remain so. worried about what that would mean going ahead, but this is absolutely a symbolic measure, something where he wants to signal his views on the court and we are obviously just a few months away from an election and this is often a time when we see presidents or major party political candidates rule out new policies are signal their support. but i do think it is still significant that the sitting president of the united dates is poised to call for these reforms, particularly term limits would be monumental

change to the workings of the supreme court and obviously still has long odds of passing congress, but still a huge shift for biden and for the country as they change their opinions of the high court. >> you know and united states maybe-- i believe it is one of the only western democracies if not the only western democracy that does not have term limits. or their supreme court justices. there just usually is. and so-- and as far as reforms come, right now, i can---- i have great reference for the court, i have great reverence for the federal judiciary. i think it continues to act as a leveling wind even though we may not agree with everything that comes down the pipe, but that said, right now, the supreme court standing with the american people has fall into a

record low. the credibility is shot, they are seen as a political and attrition. a lot of this comes because of the dobbs ruling, a 49 year precedent that about 65, 70% of americans did not want to return. you take on top of that, clarence thomas and all of the other issues that have been happening, as far as people finding out that the supreme court justices sort of live by their own ethics rules, there are no guidelines whatsoever and so the numbers are really getting not down, so an idea like this, which may have been very unpopular 10 years ago probably, because of the lack of discipline by some of the justices on the court and how politicized they and their families have become unfortunately it casts a bad shadow for the roberts court so something like this may actually connect not just with progressives but a lot of americans. >> a lot of us politically in

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her list of accomplishments. who knew memoir, just that water, my swimming life. that is the book in the seven- time olympic gold medalist joins us now. katie, it is so great to see you. you know, i was thinking about that first gold medal, i was there in paris in 2012, excuse me, in london in 2012, you were 15 years old, thinking about the world suddenly knowing your name, everybody having these incredible expectations for your career and you having somehow lived up to all of that. when you think back to those first games that winning that first goal, what you think of that 15-year-old girl? >> well it feels like yesterday to me in many ways and i wrote about it in my book, some of the memories that i have from that race, flipping out the 600 mark, knowing that i only have 200 meters left to win olympic gold and get my hands to the wall first. so that was a very memorable starts to my international career and i am really happy that 12 years later i am still competing at this level and

getting to represent team usa at the highest page. >> and now here you are moving over to paris 12 years later, this is your fourth olympic games, how are you feeling now is the veteran of the american olympic swimming team and the competition you will be facing this time around in paris? >> and feeling good, we had a great couple of weeks of training camp together as a team the swimming team, we are in croatia right now and headed to paris in a few days, so we are gearing up and we are happy to help some of the younger swimmers the rookies on the team get a feel for what the olympics is like give a little bit of advice but they seem really confident and they seem really ready to just be on this team is so hard. just to make it through the olympic trials. so they are well prepared and i'm excited to see what we can do as a team. >> katie of course, good luck we will all be rooting for you. but as you are detailing your book swimming is so hard.

it is often very solitary, it is physically and mentally demanding and yet, this is 12 odd years of just olympic competition, so obviously you swam much before that, how do you keep yourself motivated to keep doing this? >> well, my answer to that question is the book. i detail what i love about this sport and really, all of the people in my life that have contributed to my life in the sport in my life out of the sport. really, just that balance that i've been able to have in my life that has allowed me to continue to compete at this level and enjoy the grind, enjoy the training every day. i have the best teammates, the best coaches of the best family, my mom, mary jen, who i am growing up, she is the one who got me into the pool, along with my brother-- my brother, michael, he is when i followed into the pool and onto the team and they have been part of my journey ever since day one. >> so, katie in the book you

explain the mental edge that you have as a distance swimmer and you write in part this, it comes down to how you are made. i have known i have had an engine since i swim my first mile, when i was probably 11. i remember swimming that's distance for the first time and walking away from it, like that wasn't so bad. mentally i have learned that i am wired as an aerobic swimmer, i embrace routine, eileen into the irregularity. the endless laps become a kind of meditation. it is a bit like walking through those spiraling zen gardens, a way to call the noise of the world and let the consistency and predictability of swimming back in north wash over you. i don't have as many fast twitches as the sprinters and i don't have the technique to be a 50 meter freestyle are, but psychologically i am built to endure. i love that. and i love how you look at your work as sort of a mindfulness

routine. instead of work. i am curious, is that also you get your confidence? and what about days, if you have any, when you are not feeling that confident, how do you cope with that? >> yeah, it really is something that i see as something that has taught me so much. the sport has taught me so much about determination resilience how to get that confidence and really, for me i get that confidence from my training, from pushing myself every day, from having my teammates and coaches push myself-- push me and really just that drive comes from within and really i'm proud that i have never hit the snooze button once in my life. >> wow. >> my mom knows. some good snacks for before morning practice that got me out of bed. but i will-- i always loved those car rides, with my family

and my parents. they were our chauffeurs growing up to and from the pool every day. and i owe a lot to them and again all of the people around me. >> it truly does take a whole family. let me say you truly are built different if you never hit the snooze button, katie. extraordinary. one of the things people love about you is your humility, so this might be a hard question for you to answer, but we watch you swim and we watch how much you win by and we go, now she is doing that again the other greatest swimmers on the face of the earth. there is no one better that you could be competing against. so, to what do you attribute that? why are you heads and shoulders above the rest of the world? is it a physical thing? is it a mental thing? what is it as you think about it? >> i think it is a combination of a lot of factors. i think first off there is a lot of great competition out there. i'm going to be facing some

really tough competitors the next few weeks. so i am excited for that. but really, i think the goal setting that i've been able to do my entire swimming career has allowed me to break these records and continue at this level and i have kind of have a knack for goal setting from the start. i would call michael times and write them down even for my 800 races when i was still starting to swim, so, i have continued to do that, continue to set bigger and bigger goals for myself and that is what motivates me, that is what keeps me going in the pool every day and just continuing to believe that i can achieve these goals that i set my mind to. >> it is so much fun for the rest of us watch. the new book is titled just add water, my swimming life, it is on sale now. "new york times" best- selling author and seven times olympic gold medalist, who has

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we are back for this second hour of morning joe weekend. let's dive right back in with some of the big stories of the week. >> we will be talking about the discussions around president biden and whether he's going to get out of the race or not this weekend. "the new york times" reporting you had a chance to speak with him. tell us about it. >> i spoke with him on monday. what i said to him is that i really feel that people must deal with the record of what he did and his legacy and what he has done and he must make the decision and i think all of us should respect that. that could to be deciding to go on or him deciding not to, what they call an emotional decision. there are those who said i've said he should step out. i'm not saying he should step out. i'm saying he should make that decision. what he's done around voting rights, what he's done around

protecting women's rights to choose, what he is done in the areas of police reform and others that i've worked with him on i think needs to be protected. i think he may decide the best way to protect it is to stay in and he believes he could win or for him to step aside. that is his choice. he should not be pushed off the stage. i think this democratic prose in the party that are trying to push or shove i think are doing a disservice to the work that has been done in the last 3 1/2 years by the biden/harris administration. i'm not saying he should move out, i'm not pushing for him to step aside. i'm pushing for us to have a very unemotional, clear perspective on how we salvage the progress that has been made in the last 3 1/2 years and move forward because we have real danger, which was demonstrated last night by

donald trump. we have real danger to all of those achievements. >> several people close to the president tell the new york times they believe biden is beginning to accept the idea he might not win in november. this comes as grassroots fundraising is not keeping up with the demands of the campaign. one source tells nbc news biden's team expects only to race 25% of the big donor money it had originally projected to raise in july. meanwhile, former president barack obama reportedly has concerns about president biden's ability to stay at the top of the ticket. that is what two sources told nbc news. the former president sees biden's victory as "getting harder," one of the sources said. "washington post," reports president obama has said president biden needs to consider the viability of his candidacy. before we go to willie, one of the concerns here is that yes, the viability is waning because

of all of these people who are constantly talking about the fact that he needs to step down. chicken or egg at this point? i understand this all started with the debate. at this point, what is causing the donations to wayne and things like that? is it the talk, the constant churning about it? something needs to be done. >> it very well could be but the fact is that you now have barack obama having his concerns, nancy pelosi, the top democrat in the senate, the top democrat in the house, the top, president biden's top fundraiser telling him flat out we can't raise money, the money, on the sources have dried up. and, there is pushback from the biden campaign. and, we read a statement last hour, growing anger, especially the obama faction that have

been pushing, trying to push him out, setting these are the same people that, i'm quoting what they said, "these are the same people who gave us donald trump in 2016 by pushing joe biden out the last time." they really want to do it again. >> it has been very interesting, hasn't it been in the last day or so that there's almost, for a moment, this inevitability he will get out of the race. the pushback has become much stronger from joe biden's team. save for that one report that says he's now open to the possibility of getting out of the race, and i'm sure that is true, he's open to a number of possibilities, but that pushback yesterday from the campaign and from the white house is strong side and maybe don't listen to the people who brought us donald trump, talking about barack obama, talking about etsy blue sky, nancy pelosi, chuck schumer behind the scenes for joe biden to get out of the race. one of those voices joining the court, democratic senator jon tester of montana calling for president biden to leave the

race. in a statement yesterday, senator jon tester wrote "montanans have put their trust in me to do what is right and it is the responsibility i take seriously. i worked with president biden when it has made montana stronger and i've never been afraid to stand up to him when he is wrong. while i appreciate his commitment to public service and our country, i believe president biden should not seek reelection to another term." the daily montana and reports jon tester supports an open nominating process to select a new nominee, which is an entirely different conversation to get into, if in fact joe biden does step aside. then what? a lot of people say it has to be vice president kamala harris, within the party. others say open it up at the convention, see what happens. mike barnacle, what is your sense of this morning? this changes our to our. senator jon tester is in a very difficult race to hold onto his

seat in the state of montana. these are not just vibes from a lot of people, these are people looking at internal polls that say if joe biden stays in the race, i may lose my seat too. democrats may lose the senate, they may lose the house. from the white house, from the biden campaign site of it, what is your sense of where they are this morning? >> you know, i think they are where a lot of people might be, looking at the level of cruelty that is involved in politics today. here is a man who has given 50 years of his life to the democratic party and the country. here is a man who, in 2008, was quite substantial in terms of barack obama being elected. i would hope resident obama has shared his misgivings about joe biden's chances this fall with him personally over the phone rather than having this political death by 1000 leaks each and every day. this is like a large family, the biden family of politics gathered together.

that is all the democratic party, that is his family, that is what he has devoted his life to. that is who he has helped for over 50 years on the ballot or off the ballot. now, they are basically telling him, okay old man, you can't sit at the head of the table on thanks giving day. they basically want to throw him out. you can withdraw but trying to get someone to withdraw after stripping them of humility, of going after them, of going after him, embarrassing him in public with all of these leaks, i think they are angry about it. the reality of it i'm sure has struck home to them. still, it is appalling. >> that anger was evident last night with some very forceful and specific pushback from members of the biden team about reporting the president had decided to step away from the race. he, again, he is team is a saying he's not doing that, he is still in this. we know he is currently recovering in his beach home in rehoboth as pressure mounts.

certainly the walls and like they are closing and the lack of fundraising, influential democrats pushing them toward the door, remains to be seen if that stiffens the president result to stay in or whether his inner circle and the president himself eventually bow to the reality that he can't win. one of the things that the president has decided that he will inform this decision is whether or not he thinks if he says own data, that someone else could eat donald trump. that someone else, in particular, his vice president kamala harris. michael smith, you've done a lot of reporting on the vice president and this could vance she and her team after conduct right now where they are publicly fully supportive of president biden. and that has been well received in the west wing. she and her allies recognize that if the president does step aside, there could be an opportunity here. as willie noted, we don't know what would happen next if suddenly there is a vacancy at the top of the ticket, with her president biden would say i want it to go to my running

mate or whether this is some sort of open contest. >> what would that path look like? what is the precedent for it? how much time is left on the clock to do that? how would that be done at the convention? what we wrote about yesterday was about how this is, behind the scenes, a bit messy. there have been different flareups where the vice president's staff has been concerned that, in the process of trying to prop up presidents chances of winning, that they have denigrated the vice president. >> we have lots more to get to. morning joe weekend continues after a short break. t break. wh? can this be treated? stop typing. start talking to a specialized urologist. because it could be peyronie's disease, or pd. it's a medical condition where there is a curve in the erection, caused by a formation of scar tissue. and an estimated 1 in 10 men may have it. but pd can be treated

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donald trump has officially accepted the republican party's presidential nomination for the third time. the former president delivered a record-setting 93 minute address last night at the rnc

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everywhere. yet, in a certain way, i felt very safe because i had god on my side. i felt that. if i had not moved my head at that very last instant, the assassin's bullet would have perfectly hit its mark and i would not be here tonight. we would not be together. >> trump made the remarks while standing next to the firefighter suit of the man who was killed in saturday's shooting, corey comperatore. the president also said, "that is court and division in society must be healed. i am running to be president for all of america , not half of america." he then called on democrats to drop the federal and state cases against him, calling them a "partisan witch hunt."

when trump turned to his policy agenda, he focused on immigration, promising to carry out the largest deportation operation in u.s. history if reelected. >> it is a massive invasion at our southern border that had spread misery, crime, poverty, disease, and destruction. we have to stop the invasion into our country that is killing hundreds of thousands of people a year. no hope or dream we have for america can succeed unless we stop them illegal immigrant invasion. they are coming from prisons, they are coming from jails, they are coming from mental institutions and insane asylums. the republican platform promises to launch the largest deportation operation in the history of our country. i will not let these killers and criminals into our country.

i will keep our sons and daughters safe. >> just a couple things right here. we are going to continue going here but i do have to say, jonathan, it is worth reminding people that are watching here, that illegal crossings from mexico and the united states reached a 50 year low under barack obama and they were at about 50 year loan at the same time donald trump was running in 2016, talking about and invasion, and illegal immigration invasion. those numbers have gone up, they've gone up under donald trump and they exploded under joe biden. they have started to go down, just like crime numbers have started to go down as well. this remains a very potent issue and a very potent issue not just for republicans but

independent swing voters and a lot of democrats, which is why the democratic party got behind a republican bill on illegal immigration that actually included more border security than we've ever had. and, it was killed by republicans. >> killed by republicans because donald trump wanted to preserve it as an election year issue. senator langford of oklahoma was in the room last night. would've liked to have seen a couple thought bubbles from him while he listened to donald trump complain about the border. i do think it was, we need a moratorium in the medium about donald trump's, praising donald trump's new tone. that doesn't ever happen on this show. certainly, the first 20, 25 minutes of the speech, his lengthy recitation of what happened on saturday, was new and different, the room was silent, people were listening, there were some in the crowd who had tears in their eyes and streaming down their cheeks as trump talked about his brush with death. but, once that moved on, it was

suddenly a donald trump rally again, maybe a little more subdued in terms of tone but full of false claims about things like immigration and a rambling, dark rhetoric that does seem out of place with what so many americans to face, with reality in this country right now. i will say, and we are going to spend so much time this morning talking about it, but there are republicans who expressed it was a missed opportunity for trump to actually try to, for the first time ever as a political candidate, reach out beyond his base and a number of democrats say, look, this is the guy we can beat. what a flawed candidate he is, which is why, of course, there's so much scrutiny about resident biden's upcoming decisions. >> there is so much scrutiny about that. i will say, willie, there is republicans at the rnc are supremely confident, regardless of any misgivings they may have been from republican consultants last night. the people in that room, by all accounts, believe that donald

trump is there man. he's going to win, he's going to restore america's greatness, and that he has the hand of god on him. not maybe some people who were watching but that is what republicans feel. >> they feel confident. >> extremely confident, the most confident i think any republican party has ever felt going into an election in late summer. also, you notice, he had the elvis lights behind them. >> i noticed that. the trump thing had the elvis lights behind him. he is going full elvis here. but, it was, there it is, elvis 68, baby, the 68 special. i think i've seen you in front of things like that before, willie. >> just missing the black leather. >> yes, but there will be people throughout the day picking through the speech, talking about what he said, the

hannibal lector stuff, rambling stuff that, again, didn't make a whole lot of sense but once standard for him. make no mistake, this is a republican party that goes into the general election more unified than they've been at any time, by gosh, in 20 years. >> you go into and nbc poll going to this convention this week that showed nearly 3/4 of republicans support their pick for president, donald trump, after all the debate and all the discussion after january 6, you think about where the party was, it's time to turn the page, we have to move on. they are there, donald trump is there guy and you saw it in the room last night and the confidence comes not just from their candidate but from, of course, what they are watching on the other side and they believe, in some ways, they can stand back and let the democrats beat each other up and do the damage to themselves. they are looking at these new battleground polls that showed donald trump making up more

ground and enjoying leads in most polygram states at this point. there was a reason for the confident. but, i will say, and i'm sure you guys heard this last night too, democrats have been depressed lately, let's just say it, about the state of play. as they watch that speech and what really was an excellent convention the way they put it on, not an endorsement of the rhetoric or the policies but just the enthusiasm in the room, democrats are getting more and more depressed, except last night as they watched the speech, obviously the beginning, the first 30 minutes were very moving as he talked about, and very hushed tones, talked about the man who died, corey comperatore, talked about his own experience on saturday. then as the page turned for the next hour, democrats had a moment of oh, right, this is donald trump, this is a guy we can beat when he talks as we. this is rally trump. whether it is joe biden or someone else, democrats, for a brief moment anyway last night, mika , thought we are still in this thing. this is the guy we can beat.

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welcome back. senator bernie sanders remains one of president biden's biggest supporters as calls from democratic lawmakers continue to grow for biden to step aside. in a new interview with "the new yorker," the vermont independent doubled down on wanting biden to stay in the race. senator sanders joins us now. senator, given the growing calls and whispers, loud whispers from very big names in democratic circles, isn't that causing a lot of destruction on the democratic side? opening the door for donald trump? is joe biden, we know he's fit for the presidency. is he fit to run or should he

step aside? >> i have to say something, if i make them all due respect to my friends in the media, you know, we may, we might want to concentrate on what president biden has accomplished, which is probably the strongest record for working families in the modern history of this country. then we might want to talk about why people should vote for him and why, in my view, if he runs, he is going to be reelected. he has an agenda, we don't talk about it in the media much, that speaks to the needs of working families who have been ignored for decades. when i go out and i tell people that president biden wants to expand social security by asking the wealthy to start paying their fair share of taxes so we can increase benefits by $2400 wasn't a year, people say that is great. when i say president biden wants to expand medicare so that we can cover dental, hearing, and vision, and the media, these guys make a lot of money, not much interest in

that. if you are a senior who can't afford to go to a dentist, that means a lot. if you have cancer or have had cancer treatment and you went and corrupt and lost her home because of the outrageous cost, president biden wants to end all medical debt in this country. he has a massive housing program, which will deal with the crisis that exists all over this country. he understands that in the midst of massive income and wealth inequality, maybe it is time for the billionaire class to start paying their fair share of taxes. by the way he is running against a guy who doesn't believe that climate change is real. all of the scientists tell us the future of the planet depends upon us acting aggressively to cut carbon emissions. maybe if we stop, if we start focusing on his record, start focusing on what he's trying to do, not only with the wind, he has a chance to win very, very, in a big way because working- class people in this country are hurting. they want specific ideas as to how their lives are going to be improved.

>> senator, good morning. i want to ask you about the minimum wage specifically, which as it sits is just at the poverty line for individual. not good enough. it is not just the media, it is not just people who are billionaires and everybody else worried about their life, it is your colleagues in the senate, jon tester came out yesterday. chuck schumer has expressed his concern to the president as well. they are worried that with joe biden at the top of the ticket, they may lose their seats and you may lose the senate. what do you say to them crystal >> i'm very familiar with that, believe me. i think maybe if the democrats in the senate spent less time criticizing biden and more time bringing up legislation, raise the issue of the minimum wage. $7.25 an hour. i tried to years ago to raise it to $50.00 an hour. should be higher than that. ring that fell to the floor, see how many republicans vote for a minimum wage which the american people want. president biden has reached out to the unions but they need help in terms of countering

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if either donald trump or joe biden are elected this november, it would work the seventh time in the last nine elections americans will have chosen a president born in the 1940s. that would put the u.s. at odds with the rest of the world. both trump and biden, ages 78 and 81 respectively, are significantly older than most current world leaders, whose median age is 62. the advanced age of america's current leading presidential candidate is one of the topics discussed in "the economist," new limited series podcast entitled "boom," which analyzes the waning, yet still potent lyrical power of baby boomers. >> let's bring in the host and is editor of "the economist.

john, one of the most fascinating stats or bits of information, trivium i ever heard politically regarding age and president have to do with the fact that donald trump, bill clinton, and george w. bush, were all born within a month of each other in the summer of 1946. that tells you how long, as you say, these boomers have been running america. >> that's right, joe. i got into this because i have been covering america for "the economist," for 10 years on the question a couple getting is why does america have these two rather elderly candidates at the top of the ticket? why not somebody more youthful? there is a way to explain that by looking at what happened after the 2022 midterms, when joe biden was convinced he was such a strong candidate he should say or you could expand it by looking at 2020 or going for the back and 2016 and

donald trump's rise and how joe biden wins the primary in 2020 as of the trump slayer. the thing that was just hard to explain is it is even narrower than the baby boomers being in charge, which i think a lot has been written about. the baby boom generation, as you know, runs from 46 to 64. if you narrow that and look at americans born in the 1940s, you have those three president who, as you mentioned, joe, were born and 46 and you have biden in 42. with the exception of barack obama, that is a big eight-year exception, from 1993 until potentially january, 2029, we could or are likely to have a white man in the white house born in the 1940s. that is a very long stretch. it is doubly strange given that america is much younger than most other rich, western democracy. the median age of americans is only 38. to have these guys knocking on

80 running is genuinely puzzling. it is also puzzling even at ceos of big american companies are typically much younger as well, with a couple of receptions but generally they are in their 50s or early 60s. some very strange things going on that i thought needed explained that the more you pull on the threats, the more you have to look back into the air they were born into and when they came of age politically. rather than just explain what happened in 2022 that would make this podcast, which is called, the generation that blew up american politics, which takes six years starting in 68, which is a formative year for this generation, and goes until 2020 and tries to tell the deep story of the political education of this generation. people will hopefully have a sense, after listening to it, of why we are where we are. >> john, claire mccaskill here. i'm curious if you are exploring what i see as a really stark contrast between what has been accomplished by the boomer generation in terms of technology and strides in

gender equality, all of those kinds of things, but yet it feels like this election is a giant pothole that all of a sudden we are presenting the country with a choice that our country does not like. and, are you going into that in the podcast, do you have a simple explanation of how the boomers who have done so much, are now faced with this kind of calamity? >> to me, that is almost the most fascinating question in american politics right now. i know there are lots of more immediate ones, will joe biden step down, what will happen in november, but just as a sort of how strange american politics is at the moment, the disconnect between what you hear on the floor. i was on the floor for the j.d. vance speech, and what is going on in the country. there has, as you say, been the most extra ordinary amount of progress in america over the

past few decades. racial progress, economic progress. one statistic i like is that black white implement gap in america, which has been a thing for all of american history as long as anyone has been county, that has pretty much disappeared now. there are so many good things happening in this country. yet, this election feels like and existential, you are saying it is a pothole, if you like that is putting it nicely. it feels like the stakes are so high and the rhetoric around politics is so incredibly heated for reasons that i understand perfectly but kind of starts from the assumption that america is fundamentally broken and needs fixing. you get that on the left wing of the democratic party as well as in the mainstream of the republican party as well. and, it doesn't track with what the data shows and the story of progress. >> so much of it, also, is, again, coming of age for all of these rumors. it came of age in the 1960s. came of age in the most

volatile decade and most of these around 67, 68, 69. it, i think it shaped our politics in a great way. the new limited series is "boom," available wherever you get your podcasts. i have to say this, barack obama, i know people like to say anybody born from 1946 to 2018 is a boomer. it is the widest spectrum. barack obama, look at him. he is not a boomer. he is most definitely a post whom jen x guy that was skeptical of boomers and it is very interesting. i actually think, and the numbers kind of move for what boomer is and what a jen x is, barack obama was our first and only jen x resident.

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♪ hardest tumbling pass in the entire world where there. >> that was gymnast symone biles and her electrifying floor routine set to taylor swift's hit song "ready for it," at the u.s. olympic trials last month. the 27-year-old will be the oldest female american gymnast to compete at the olympics in 72 years. but, that is not the only

significant milestone we will see for women at the paris games. for the first time, the summer olympics, which start next week will have gender parity. aft of the over 10,000 athletes participating will be women. to tell us more about the slow and steady build of female participation at the olympics and why it matters is msnbc contributor huma aberdin . and, editor of forbes women, maggie mcgrath. maggie, forbes has taken a deep dive into the numbers of women parts debating in the game since 1900 when paris first hosted the games. what did you all find christmas >> i'm so glad you started with those 1900 paris games because with those were the first olympic games to include any female athletes. that year, there were 22 women competing out of 997. they competed in just five

events. over the years, as the international olympic committee has added women's events, we have seen female participation increasing. and a full circle moment this year, 124 years later, we will have full numeric parity in paris for the first time ever. 5000 athletes on the device as female of the roughly 10,000 total olympians. i want to point out these numbers are just the start of the story here. the ioc is signaling its commitment to gender equality in a number of other ways. there will be equal coverage of men's and women's events during prime time, the ioc has asked all participating nations during the opening ceremonies to bring a female and male flag bearer. then, in my favorite fact, the olympics normally conclude with the men's marathon. this year, the women's marathon will be the grand finale. it will be such a good race, i

love watching. >> huma abedin, why has the landscape where women athletes changed so much ? obviously, we know some of the answer to this next question, but why is it so important? >> it is a combination of three things. honesty, access, and inspiration. it is not like girls have not aspired to be amazing athletes for centuries. every member when i was nine years old and watching the 1984 olympics and watching mary lou written on that gymnastics mat and being so inspired and setting that is what i want to grow up and be but it wasn't until the passage, the three of us talk about this all the time, the passage of title ix in this country, not policy, but legislation that required equal opportunity for girls and boys, which led to a fivefold increase in girls participating in school sports, since then this explosion of female athletes on all levels is something to inspire a less, inspire us, along with billie

jean king and leading to a generation of athletes in all fields so to see that you have the ioc requiring that the flag bearers at the opening ceremonies be one man and one woman, these are small things but they are not. they are huge. i see it, his representation, that is possible for me. the mongolian team has already won the award in the best dressed athletes. it is leading to the largest record-breaking leadership, viewership this year and i cannot wait until it starts. >> so, maggie, let's talk about the female star power on team usa. how many athletes do we have headed to the games? how have american women fared versus men in terms of winning medals? >> i love this question. we have 592 total athletes

heading to paris this year on team usa. 314 of those athletes are women, 53%. in terms of their odds of success, it is quite good, if recent history is any indication. over the last 15 years, the team usa female athletes have out meddled female athletes, despite competing in fewer events. in 2020, american women won 66 medals, nearly 60% of the team total. if the u.s. women had been their own sovereign nation in 2020, they would have come in fourth place overall in the medal count behind the u.s., china, and russia. i just want to underscore what huma abedin said. all the statistics are fun to brag about or post about but women success is driving interest in women's sports, which is driving investment and money. >> exactly. we had katie ledecky on yesterday, who is expected to clean up. she was amazing. i love her positivity and her

confidence. what story, story lines and women athletes will you have your eye on? >> there are four. coco gauff, she is our u.s. champion, can't wait to see what she does. symone biles , she left in the midst the 2020 olympics, is now coming back. and, katie ledecky. when you do something extra ordinary and it goes like this, what the heckie, katie ledecky. she has versatility, skill, staying power. can't wait to see what she does. >> relevant. >> the fourth is the unknown. who is the story that comes out? >> exactly. the breakout star. huma abedin, megan mcgrath, thank you both very much. we have lots more to get to this hour. morning joe weekend continues after a short break.

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as it pertains to what we heard and what we didn't hear from former president donald trump and his acceptance speech last night, he had mentioned a few weeks back about his ability to attain the release of evan gershkovich. i don't know why he wouldn't do

that now if he could do that be the question is raised, you are talking with vladimir putin? there are some the questions raised by the way donald trump talks about vladimir putin in light of this breaking news be >> the phrasing of what former president trump set a number of weeks ago almost gave you the impression he was encouraging the russians to hold on to evan gershkovich so that he could take the credit for releasing him, trump. it is unfathomable to me that anybody could put their own interests, anybody, it is not unfathomable because he is the largest narcissist on the planet. it is ugly to see donald trump basically putting his old, his own personal interests above the nation's interests, as he does, but above this poor man's interests, who is suffering. donald trump doesn't care about that. he only cares about himself. >> so, george, you have just launched the anti-psychopath political action committee. part of that lunch included this mobile billboard, which

circled the rnc ahead of trump's speech along with many other billboards across milwaukee. tell us about the new medical action committee. >> this is something i got into many years ago about trump's psychological health. i turned down a position in the administration because i thought it was such a dumpster fire. then, there was time where i ran into the president with kellyanne conway and a reception and he told me you are so great, that is so smart not to work for jeff sessions because he's such and then starting to insult jeff sessions and sitting jeff sessions couldn't, shouldn't have recused himself. i remember thinking what is wrong with this guy? he just went on and on and it was bizarre. we went to the bar to, the refill. i started laughing. we both started laughing.

we both started laughing historically. the next morning, i was laughing at the president of the united states. what is wrong with this guy? finally, i started reading the psychological literature. once i started reading about personality disorders, in particular, narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder, pathological system and sociology, everything became clear. became clear. that is all the time we have heard of this weekend, we are back tomorrow morning for what looks to be a consequential week in the news.o things for watching, enjoy the rest of your sunday. your sunda.