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conversation with congressman smith. it was rather interesting. somebody asked me, actually, whether symone gave him the business. if you know symone, you should not be surprised. >> i did not even say anything. often times i am saying something but this time i did not say anything. >> you get in trouble for saying nothing. at least, alicia, you are quiet over there. >> i don't want my face to do too much talking. >> it is a look . >> it is a look at "velshi" starts right now. ♪ ♪ the morning. it is sunday, july 21st. you are watching "velshi" on msnbc. i am charles coleman filling in for my friend and colleague ali velshi. we have a lot to talk about. what a difference 72 hours makes. it was only three days ago when donald trump first took the

stage at the republican national convention and declare, quote, the discord and division in our society must be healed. but yesterday, during his first campaign rally since being injured by a gunman last saturday, trump reverted to his usual combative tone and delivered a speech that featured plenty of lighting, name-calling and fear mongering. >> it is no wonder joe biden and his thugs are so desperate to stop us. they know that we are the only ones who can stop them. we are the only ones. you know, we talk about biden like he is a feeble old guy and he is. he is. it is the people that surround him. he is perfect for them. this is them, they are fascists and communists and bad people surround him. >> bad people surround him. that is so rich. just one also went on to call vice president kamala harris, quote, crazy, nuts and added that democrats work grossly

incompetent. listen, for anyone out there still waiting for the new trump to arrive, i hate to break it to you, but he ain't in trump is continuing to spew the same type of xenophobic and divisive rhetoric that has become pretty much the defining feature of his entire political career. this time, he also has a running mate we already know will amplified all of his threats, lies and his insults. yesterday marked the debut of the gop's new presidential ticket on the campaign trail as jd vance joint trump at a rally for the first time as his official running mate and full- time enabler. vance is a rookie and a political opportunist. he was once a prominent and vocal critic of his new boss, donald trump , a literal never trump guy. then he became a hard-core supporter and sought out the former president's endorsement when he ran for senate in 2022. he served less than two years in congress and before that, he

had not held any other public office. vance is incredibly valuable to trump because he made it clear he will support the former president's hard right agenda, no matter what. in recent years, vance has helped to boost trump's lies about the 2020 election and echoed trump's words by calling january 6th riders, quote, political prisoners. vance even dressed up like the former president when he attended trump's criminal trial in manhattan in may, which he called a sham. that is one of those things where you get dressed for the job you want, not for the job you've got. most alarmingly, vance also told abc news this year he would not have certified biden's victory like mike pence did in 2021. joining us now is jason stanley, professor at yale university and author of the upcoming book, erasing history, how faceless -- passes rewrite the pass to control the future and a colonist from nbc and

political analyst and author of the books, the w know, a black power manifesto and fire, shut up in my bones, not to be confused with charles coleman, even though we have both amazing beards. good to have you, charles. jason, good to be here. jason, trump supporters, their new catch is fight, fight, fight. this is something that donald trump started essentially after he was attacked, the attempt on his life, but he also talked about the notion of division. what happened to the unity? >> first of all, there was some attempt at normalization. that is extremely common. if there was no attempt at normalization, it would not be authorities em -- authorities him and fascist. in the past we have seen this kind of normalization. the new york times had a headline when hitler was

elected. hitler gives up his goal of being a dictator. we are seeing that kind of normalization but it isn't, as you pointed out, a holding that far. we've got these, you know, signs, mass deportation now, calling for concentration camps. that is what is happening. that is no kind of normalization at all. >> charles, one of the things that has been interesting is donald trump has used this very aggressive theme, if you will, of victimization. everybody is coming after me, you know, i am the number one target. i am the one who will take all the heat for you. by leaning into this victimization narrative, how has this helped republicans shut down the actual legitimate criticism of the former president? >> well, donald trump has remained a victim his entire presidential campaign career.

what changed, to some degree, not completely, but to some degree with the assassination attempt, before that, the ignorant dacian was completely fantastical, he had made it up. with surviving that attempt on his actual life, he actually had some legitimacy in claiming a victimization in that moment but what they are doing is trying to broaden that and say this is an example or one part of a larger victimization. this is connected to the criminal prosecutions, this is connected to his loss of the election. he is saying it is stolen. it is connected to all those things. they are trying to say, you know, there is one big conspiracy here and it is crystallized in a bullet. that is the attacked. it does not hold together.

the young man who did the shooting, it doesn't quite fit their narrative so they keep trying to push past that. and also, donald trump keeps going back to, you know, the other part of his campaign, other parts that will make him a sympathetic character. they are still trying to use it. >> charles, to follow up on that, when donald trump leaned in, when he is the patron maga sank of all things white, conservative, male, super masculine that many people view when they think of what america was when they think it would be great again, does not give permission for other people who identify with donald trump to also say, we are victims, too. whiteness is under attack. the notion of diversity is attacking who i am and my identity. does that feel parallel for

people and they also adopt that in their individual spaces? >> well, there is a group of americans that believe whiteness was under attack for decades, long before donald trump became a politician. he has become the champion of this victimization among that group of americans who believe that whiteness and white culture and white power and white status in the country is under attack and being eroded by an ever-increasing percentage of minority people and the ability for them to have political party power in the country. that has always existed. what is new is that he had become the front land the >> front man for that candidate and has used that to be rocket fuel for his rise in politics. >> jason, speaking under the same narrative from the

victimization piece, you and i had a conversation off air that was very interesting about how di now has become a new catchphrase and a new target for the right. i would love for you to talk more about that. >> people have not picked up on this but the history will pick up on this. dei, the republicans' focus on dei, which is targeted against black people, black politicians, black people in power, like clotting gay , the black president of harvard. it is the upscale version of welfare queen. that is what we are seeing. history will recognize this is a racist campaign. it is not about, it is not being used against the policies principally, it is being used against black people and women in positions of power, the mira baltimore, they are gearing up to use it if the vice president runs, they are already using it. what we are seeing is an explicitly racist campaign with a very obvious dog whistle. i just want to pick up on the victimization toll. that is classic. we are seeing victimization, a

chapter of my book, how fascism works, is called victim. resentment is the most powerful emotion in fascist politics. what you do, you pick on multiple groups that feel victimized. men, with women equality, white people, you pick up heterosexuals, lgbtq is taking over. resentment is core to what we are seeing. we are representing, by representing himself as the victim as charles blow said, trump is saying, i am your champion. >> you know, there is a lot of white ingredients that has been fueling the maga movement and continues to do so. your emotion of resentment speaks directly to that . it will energize around campaign, even when it has seemed like it

was on the rose. thank you both for helping us get started on this saturday morning. coming up, with president biden recuperating from covid in delaware, vice president harris is hitting the campaign trail and was out last night, holding court in front of a crowd of 1000 donors in massachusetts. someone shouted, go get them as harris went up after trump to give her speech. plus, donald trump is bowing the largest deportation of them immigrants in u.s. history. should he take the white house? the 900+ page project 2025 shows this is just the tip of the iceberg i will discuss it with congressman robert garcia of california. certain black and brown republicans keep debasing themselves by cozying up to donald trump while getting nothing in return. i have a very special message just for them coming up next. i am charles coleman and you are watching "velshi" on msnbc. ♪ ♪

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♪♪ we are the republican party of frederick douglass and of abraham lincoln. [ applause ] >> of ronald reagan and donald trump! [ applause ] >> for leading us in this fight will be a man, although wounded and facing danger, he stood up and raised his fist and reminded us that our people and our country are always worth fighting for! >> with trump, our economy will boom again! you will have more money in your pocket again. your children will have a future again. together, i know we will make america wealthy again! >> you know, there is a certain

literary classic by alexander demoss that shares the same with a candy bar that just came to mind but that trio, marco rubio and congressman byron donald all speaking this weekend at the national convention. for months, these three were the top contenders to be donald trump's running mate. but, as it happens in american life, the job went to the lesser qualify, white guy. ohio senator jd vance, young grad with humble beginnings who has just 18 months of experience working in public service. still, you would never realize that these guys were actually chosen given how they actually continue to throw themselves out donald trump's feet. alright. it is hard enough to be a man of color in this world and these guys chose to doubled and

on the degree of difficulty by deciding to be republican men of color, happily giving their dignity to trump's base to be in contention for his number two spot. tim scott, despite the fact he ran against trump in the primaries and ultimately ended his campaign because it failed to gain traction, well, he has pledged fealty to done. remember this awkward moment from january that took place right after trump ran in the new hampshire primary? >> she actually appointed you, tim? [ laughter ] >> and, think of it, appointed you the senator of the state and she endorsed me. you must really hate her. [ laughter ] >> no, it is a shame. it is a shame. at. >> i just love you. [ laughter ] >> that is why he is a great politician. >> bro, where is your dignity? senator rubio or little marco, as trump used to eventually call him, has come along way since running against trump in

2016. back then, rubio often slammed the former president saying he was a con artist and hijacking the conservative movement quote, trump runs with the idea he is fighting for the little guy but he spent his entire career sticking it to the little guy. his entire career. fast forward to this election cycle, rubio, the son of cuban immigrants recently defended trump's comments on immigrants to quote, poison the blood of the united states and said it had nothing to do with race. sure. i would like to point out he said this in a spanish-language interview, nonetheless. and then on to congressman donalds in an attempt to court black voters, he participated in a multicity speaking tour called the congress cognac tour. go on, i am listening. at a spot in philly, donalds was called out for making an extremely controversial comment where he asserted the black family was stronger during the

era of jim crow. donalds spent weeks twisting himself in knots to defend those indefensible comments, including right here on msnbc with two of my colleagues, joy reid and reverend al sharpton. i said before and i will say it again. in the end, the black and brown folks will cozy up to donald trump but don't end up with the favor they are seeking. what they end up doing is falling for a trap. being a conservative or having an ideology that is not in line with democrats is completely fine but if you have to embarrass yourself and you get nothing in return, how much is that space actually for you? maybe these men could keep hope alive with the possibility of getting a cabinet position in the next trump administration, if there is one. for now, it clearly seems that trump does not need their help in making america great again. well done, fellas you played yourself. ed yourself.

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♪♪ welcome back. you are watching "velshi" on msnbc. two more lawmakers have called for president biden to drop out of the president race just this morning. joe manchin from west virginia and dean phyllis for minnesota, altogether, 38 minutes -- senators calling on him to resign instead of facing donald trump in november. vice president kamala harris hit the campaign trail yesterday on behalf of president biden, headbutting a fund-raising event in massachusetts against calls of biden to step down. president biden says he will stay in the race and vice president kamala harris is still supporting him. that has not stopped a pro, harris campaign from taking shape, with or without her approval. according to new, exclusive nbc news reporting, a handful of

alumni from hillary clinton and bernie sanders campaigns have come together to form the first public fundraising effort to promote a presidential campaign for harris so far., as congresswoman alexandria boccaccio cortez warns, many of the democrats who are calling on biden to step aside don't necessarily want harris at the top of the ticket. >> if you think that there is, if there is a consensus on the people who want joe biden to leave, that kamala, that they will support kamala, vice president harris, you would be mistaken. i will say that because if they are going to come out and say all their little things on

background off the record, but they are not to be fully honest, i am get a be honest for them. i am in these rents. i see what they say in conversations. a lot of them are not just interested in removing the president, they are interested in removing the whole ticket. >> auc effectively just told y'all, i am in these democratic streets. it would be a stunning choice. if you were somehow looking for a way to alienate one of your most loyal, one of your most consistent groups of supporters, that is voters of color, this would be it. let's talk facts and let's talk numbers in an nbc news poll

conducted prior to the assassination attempt on former president donald trump, shows there are actually a few areas in which vice president harris runs stronger than president biden. harris outperforms biden among black voters. she 78% support from this demographic while trump only earned 14. that is a 64 point lead, in comparison to biden's 69% support among black voters. the poll also found trump in biden are tight in those who prefer a third candidate. when harris is the choice against trump, moore made a pick in the ballot test. harris leads trump alone these other voters, 46% to 39 percent up it is a higher upside when voters are considering a third- party candidate in an election disclosed that matters. as of now, all this talk about biden dropping out of the race remains a moot point because he says he is committed to the election and pledging to return to the campaign trail this week. here with me to unpack all of this is the host of mornings with his alina on sirius xm, the former director of the clean campaign and the author of how to heal her liberal

divide. good morning. it is always good to talk to you. you are the person who i am really hoping can really give some clarity to the elephant in the room. there is this talk about democratic division and a very strong undercurrent of both racism and sexism for those democratic elites who have doubts in vice president kamala harris. can you way >> layout what it looks like and what problems it presents when we get to the point of the convention. >> sure i can come i wrote an entire book with the subtitle, how to heal our liberal divide. i feel like i have a lot to say about this. i think alexandria ocasio- cortez was right on the money. you have elected democrats who were anxious, everyone is anxious about a second trump term listing to their donors instead of their voters. i think, when we are talking

about the elevation of vice president harris at the top of the ticket, democrats only have three options, biden, kamala or chaos. i think the last option was probably the least desired option. in terms of the racism and exes him that kamala harris could potentially face, number one, i don't think she is under any illusions that is not a factor at play here but i think that may be stated by some of those calling for biden to step aside. if any of these democrats want biden to step aside, i think personally they should be saying pass the torch to the vice president. that is why she is there. i speak to voters every single day who want biden to stay in but if he were to make the decision to drop out, they all say the vice president is experienced and ready and bedded to take up and get that torch that is passed from the president. >> zerlina, i want to play a clip from you from last night from donald trump's campaign rally in michigan and get your reaction on the other side of the break. let's listen.

>> for the moment, we take that the white house, the moment we take it back from crooked joe biden and kamala, and i call her laffin' kamala. she is crazy. she is nuts. you can tell by her left. she is not as crazy as nancy pelosi . did you see nancy pelosi? she is selling out biden now, did you see it? she turned on him like a dog . >> okay, so, the guy with the tiny hands wants to make fun of the vice president's laugh, i get it, fine. not that this is in any way, shape or form okay. we are going with this. last week at the rnc, there was a virtual whitewashing of any conversation that seemed to be pointed at the women who will

be going to the polls and casting their votes for president. there was no conversation about reproductive rights, no conversation about abortion. is donald trump digging himself in a bigger hole by essentially launching attacks on vice president, harris, particularly attacks that are based and rooted in sexism? what does that do to any particular turnout of women going to the polls to vote for him? what is the strategy there? >> well, it depends on what type of women you are talking about, charles. donald trump has a long record of being sexist towards women. yet, he got a majority of white women to vote for him in both of the elections he has run in. that is my first point. the second point is he is clearly scared of vice president kamala harris because he can't come up with the good nickname. he can only critique or left, not the substance. the vice president, who has

lived in a black woman's body her entire life will be very prepared to deal with the racism and sexism coming her way. that is not the reason to avoid elevating her to the position at the top of the ticket, if biden decides to step aside. that is a big if, charles. i think that the republican party with their avoidance of talking about abortion, the vice president is very strong on that particular issue. the vice president is a former prosecutor. she can prosecute the case, as they say, against convicted felons and also generate a great amount of enthusiasm among the base of support the democrats need to win, like they did in 2020, young voters, voters of color, she can talk about climate change and guns in a compelling way that i do not think the president has demonstrated to date. that could change but of all the scenarios, biden, kamala or chaos, the top two, they

include the vice president. no matter what happens, charles, i think the democratic party at this moment needs to stop this infighting in public and elevate the vice president, whether biden is at the top of the ticket or not. they need to elevate her . they need to put her out front as a strong messenger about the policies they are running on. >> zerlina maxwell, i appreciate everything you have to say but if anybody wants more, they will have to do like i did and read your blog. thank you for being with us. still ahead, when donald trump ran in 2016, he promised to build a wall. now trump's plans are still anti-immigration but more organized and even more dangerous. ♪ ♪ we will shut down deadly da sanctuary cities. we are not can i have them anymore! [ applause ] >> we plauwill shift massive portions of federal law enforcement to immigration enforcement. we are going to get the bad ones out and get them out immediately.

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greg abbott's take on the immigration issue in the u.s. and you may have seen these signs that filled the milwaukee convention hall calling for a quote, mass deportation now. as for how republicans plan to do this, look no further than project 2025. the 900 page conservative handbook calls for the creation of a standalone border and immigration cabinet agency that combines elements of the dhs, ice co., customs, border protection and the department of health and human services. it suggests using active duty military personnel to assist in arresting folks at the border, even on the mexican side. it seeks to empower ice co. agents to arrest migrants anywhere in the country, even without a warrant and calls for eliminating several visa applications, for people trafficking or other serious crimes and encourages congress to appeal unaccompanied minor

to cross the border. i cannot stress this enough. this is just the tip of the iceberg. with me now to unpack all of this is freshman democratic congressman robert garcia of california, a member of the house, homeland security and other committees. i want to start with project 2025. donald trump, once again, he is trying to create some distance between himself and the actual plan. does that signal to you that he knows that this is perhaps unpopular? >> akamai think he probably does know that. i think we should be very, very clear. donald trump, his former administration officials, his top advisers, those of the architects of project 2025. he is out there at his rallies

saying, you know, i have never heard of project 2025, i don't know what it is. that is total bs. we know that essentially donald trump's top lieutenants have drafted this manifesto. that is exactly what it is, of the most extreme, radical ideas they have been dreaming about over the last few decades they have tried to roll back every single right and every step of progress we have made in the last 50 years. it will be destroyed and moved back through project 2025. so donald trump is there avatar of this document. he is the person that put it in their view, he wants to be in office to execute it. it is concerning not just for immigrants but for women, for working people, for anyone who actually believes in progress. we've got to talk about project 2025 every single day between now and the election. >> congressman, i think part of what you just said is part of the issue that at least i and some others have with it, every day between now and the election suggests that a donald

trump loss is the death of project 2025. i don't understand why we are not approaching this in the sense that this is the republican playbook for the next 50 years. why isn't that the broader focus of people on the left and democrats who are trying to stop what project 2025 is attempting to do? >> i think it is both those things but i think we have to be very honest. donald trump wins in the pregnancy is my pregnancy, that is how they will force project 2025 on the american people. they don't care if they flip the house or they have the senate, during executive action, the presidency and the courts, they will implement project 2025. you're absolutely right. obviously, this will not end what donald trump's defeat but there is no question they will be able to implement large portions of the document if donald trump is elected. job number one, we have to defeat donald trump.

we have to flip the house and remind voters we've got to fight all these dark groups, all of these dark groups come all these far right extremists are involved in this document, including trump's top lieutenants . they continue to harp every single day through the election and beyond. >> i understand the notion of fighting these groups and i think that is important. it is important that viewers understand this is coming from a groundswell from the right. when are democrats going to go on the offensive? when are democrats going to put forth their own project 2025, whether it is project left, move on left, whatever it is, that will give the american people an opportunity to vote for something as opposed to talking endlessly about project 2025? i hear more about that from democrats than i do about something affirmative. when does that happen? >> well, i think we are all, i am advocating, we got to now

come together and focus on the states and the stakes of the election and what progress means. it starts with looking at the president's 100 date agenda for second term. those are issues that matter to the american people. we are talking about codifying workers rights, codifying access to abortion. he is talking about eliminating things like student debt and medical debt. he will put a national to assist people with rents and make sure people and tenants have actual rights. he is talking about improving the way he operates around zoning issues. there are a lot of ideas being put forward by the president that focuses on issues around the climate come around infrastructure, along access to education and canceling debt that we should absolutely be talking about. that is the agenda for democrats over the course of the next years. we have to to spend way more

time, we have to put our focus on beating donald trump and promoting the president's 100 day agenda. >> california congressman robert garcia, always good to talk to you, my friend. thank you for your time and your work. up next, what happens to democracy when elected officials undermine the will of the people? i will discuss that with my next guest and how she was ousted by governor ron desantis for daring to go against his political desires. ♪ ♪ sires. ♪ ♪ and ask for something for memory, i recommend prevagen. number one, because it's effective. does not require a prescription. and i've been taking it quite a while myself and i know it works. and i love it when the customers come back in and tell me, "david, that really works so good for me." makes my day. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. announcer what if you could whiten your teeth by simply brushing your teeth? now you can with smileactives, the teeth whitening breakthrough that safely gets your teeth white and keeps them white every day

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♪♪ perseverance is one of my favorite words and it immediately comes to mind to describe monique worrell, a former state attorney in florida who was unjustly ousted from her post last year from republican governor ron desantis. just last month, the florida supreme court ignored the rules and refused to restore her position. in 2020, she ran on a progressive platform to be the state attorney for florida's ninth judicial circuit court. she ran with the plants that she would not prosecute low- level marijuana fences, she would seek alternatives to prison for nonviolent first- time offenders and promised to reform the juvenile justice system. she won with more than two thirds of the vote. in august of last year, governor desantis suspended her

for her lack of prosecution. here is what she said about it then. >> refusing to faithfully enforce the laws of florida puts our communities in danger and victimizes innocent floridians. >> desantis claimed, without any merit, mind you, that it led to an increase in violent crime. in response, she said this district under this tourney come elected officials can be removed simply for political purposes and bio whim of the governor, and no matter how you feel about me, you should not be okay with that. the voters of the ninth circuit overwhelmingly collected an upper worse -- aggressive approach to criminal justice but later the governor appointed a prosecutor nobody asked for. what happened to monique worrell follows a national trend of republican-controlled legislatures undermining the

will of voters in progressive lead cities. the 17 states have attempted to strip power from progressive prosecutors and undermine the voters who elected them, including republican-controlled state legislatures in mississippi, missouri, ohio, tennessee, pennsylvania and texas. in florida, monique worrell is running now for the same position again . according to internal polling, she is beating her successor by 11 points. her campaign put out a statement in response to the florida's supreme court decision again reinstating her or talking about reinstating her, they are against reinstating her, apologies. it reads in part, the court's decision is a troubling indication of the erosion of factual accountability and judicial independence in the state. it is a stark reminder that politics takes precedence over facts, the very foundation of democracy is at risk. for more on this, i am joined by monique worrell herself, the elected state attorney who served on the ninth circuit court of florida. monique, we have talked literally on this platform last

summer, in august, after ron desantis had decided to remove you. catch us up with everything going on. what are you hearing from the voters out there since everything initially happened with you? >> thank you so much for having me. um, voters here are outraged. they understand our democracy is at stake. my reelection at this point is not just about who they are choosing to be there state attorney, but also to take back the vote that was stolen from them. you know, as you mentioned earlier, there was no merit to the claims that were made as a basis for my removal. i won't even justify them on the basis of my removal. of course, what the supreme court did was validate the fact that we don't need a basis, there doesn't need to be any merit to these claims. what we are seeing here in florida is a preview to project 2025. >> monique, one of the things i think that is interesting and one of the themes that emerged out of a lot of the racial unrest we experienced post george floyd during that very,

very tumultuous period in american history, was this notion that people have the power, particularly in urban centers, to elect prosecutors and judges and people in the judiciary who share their values and to our ultimately going to protect their rights and their civil rights. can you talk about how this new attack on the judiciary from legislative houses across the country now puts that protection in extreme danger, particularly for communities of color? >> yeah, absolutely. in 2020, we saw a community together, honestly, in a way i had not seen for much of my lifetime. yes, urban communities became involved, but other communities, um, surrounded them and supported them saying we need people who are going to recognize the injustices that lie in this system and actually do something about it. if you, you know, listen to the transcript from andrew worn's

suspension hearing, that is a sign of what is, acknowledging there are injustices that have happened in the past and now shape our present and trying to do something to fix it is the wokeness they are trying to whitewash and come away from. they are rewriting history to make us believe that african americans somehow benefited from being enslaved. these are all of the things we are seeing taking place. florida has been a building ground, i believe, for much of this. they have individuals going through the pipeline, through the heritage foundation, through the federalist society, who were going on the judiciary. they are, as is stated in the

project 2025 plan, maga loyalists. they will be the ones replacing people like myself, who have fought and worked to push our country and our system forward. >> you are a former state attorney. i am a former prosecutor. we are both black people. a lot of people misunderstand what that function looks like and feels like. can you just talk about, given everything that you have been through with the governor, with the state legislature and the state judiciary, you are running now. why is this so important to you? >> you know, it is important that you have identified the fact that we are both black people in this space, a space that historically has not had a lot of black people. when i was elected, there was less than two percent women of color who were elected state attorneys. when you look at the percentages of african americans and people of color who work as prosecutors under

elected or appointed state attorneys, there's numbers are very low. representation matters. it is so important because we need to bring different perspectives and life experiences to the justice system. no, that is not just found in the color of your skin, but in the entirety of representation of experiences. now you have individuals who were coming to the prosecutor side with experiences, a family member who faced the legal system, people in their neighborhoods, people in their churches, they have dealt with the criminal legal system. they have seen how it is unfair. we have seen how it is unfair because this hope project 2025 plan to give people from january sixth being able to escape responsibility for their actions, that shows we have a justice system set up for certain people and not for others. when we apply the rules and the laws equally to everyone, now

that is a problem. we have gotten way too progressive and we have to push up on that. that is why we are seeing a rolling back of progressive labeled prosecutors. we are trying to take the system forward. who can be meta-progress? progress is simply moving forward. that is what has caused such a backlash. the system wasn't supposed to set -- apply equally to everyone. >> that was former florida state attorney, monique worrell. thank you for your time and good luck in your race. "velshi" will be right back. ♪ ♪ back. ♪ ♪ after careful review of medical guidance and research on pain relief, my recommendation is simple: every home should have salonpas. powerful yet non-addictive. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine.

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