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thank you for being with us as we continue to process and further develop the stunning news. president biden ended his reelection bid and endorsed kamala harris to be the democratic nominee and lead the charge against donald trump and jd vance. over the last few hours endorsements have poured in from democratic members of congress and democratic governors and state attorney general's and several unions including the service employees international. also a statement from the executive council of the american federation of teachers. fund rating has exploded for democrats. donations exceeding $30 million in less than half a day. that would be the biggest day for online democratic donations potentially ever.
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for kamala harris to become the nominee, she will have to formally win the nomination and secure the vote of enough delegates will be free to vote for whomever they would like. it is reported that the campaign has already begun calling delegates. party leadership in tennessee has pledged that all 77 tennessee delegates will see work her as the nominee. the chair of the north carolina party also said her state party unanimously voted to pledge all of its delegates to vice president harris. not just tennessee and north carolina, south carolina has
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also pledged its delegates to harris. one chairperson tells nbc, on the call, among the different party chairs, there were no objections to moving forward with being open for support moving forward. there was no formal roll call vote or formal declarations of support. the call among all of the party chairpersons in the country, concluded with a strong call for unity and support for the president's choice. she will need the support of 2000 delegates to officially win. she appears well on her way. the national finance chair, that chair telling nbc, i
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believe there will be enough wedges to be the nominee by the end of the business day. >> joining us now is elizabeth warren of massachusetts. she has already endorsed kamala harris. thank you for taking the time to be with us. you put out a video and said, the part that is fun to think about is when you are up against a felon, who better than a former prosecutor to take it to donald trump. let me ask you, what do you think scares trump the most about a general election. >> a tough woman scares trump. also trump is very afraid of someone who knows how to hold
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people accountable. think about the years as a prosecutor. she has gone toe to toe with people that blustering bully. she has held them accountable. she hones in. she delivers. someone like that is frightening to donald trump. >> i have no doubt about it. i want to know what you were thinking because you are such an effective communicator about the economic agenda. watching that convention, the speech, where they were arguing that they have a better agenda for the working people. tell me about what your thought bubble was.
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>> i kept thinking about project 2025. i hear jd vance and donald trump but read the details in which donald trump has already said he is ready to go and jd vance backs them up on a tax cut that will deliver $3.5 million in tax cuts every year to every billion. project 2025 said it's going to be paid for on average a family of four will pay $2600 more every year just so the billionaires can have more. that is not supporting working people. that is not strengthening middle-class.
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i have known vice president harris since she was a baby attorney general. in the wake of the 2008 crisis, we worked shoulder to shoulder to fight back against banks that were trying to cheat homeowners. that is what she has been doing year after year. she has that experience but also has the economic experience. a couple of months ago she was pitching in to help people drowning in medical debt. what does it take to stand up for hard-working people? just giving an opportunity to build security. that is what
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she can run on. >> that is a good visual to hear. one of the big decisions that they need to make us who her running mate will be. she already has quite a record. what kind of person or candidate would be a good partner? >> i love the way you framed the question. i actually think it is the right question. i know they all want to sit around and say so and so stater appealed. i think vice president harris has had a difficult relationship with president
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biden. she has been part of the process . she has been fighting every day for the items in the agenda. on student loan debt for example , she has been making most punches and helping people get the relief they need. i think she will want to replicate that kind of experience. she wants to be president to a vice president that is someone she can depend on. what makes them someone you can depend on? it is the shared value. someone that sees the world the same way and someone that believes that government is not here for the billionaires and giant corporations. government is here to work on the side of working people all in here to invest in americans in education and health care and housing. the big one, a big fight, child
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care. we need to get this done across the country. she will want someone that looks at government the same way. i think she has a lot of good people to pick from. >> no question. first person in the room and last person, elizabeth warren, thank you for taking the time to join us. n us. >> she is a powerful communicator. think about one of the things that is happening, as the parties consolidating around vice president harris, you are getting testimony, not only from people that work with her
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as vice president or during the biden administration but people that ran alongside her in the primary. also those that have experience in the senate and seeing the endorsements and that support. we will have a lot of that. another piece of news, i mentioned moments ago that they were three state democratic parties that have now made the decision and decided all of their delegates will go to kamala harris. we heard that about south carolina and north carolina. it is where all of the states delegates are pledged to kamala harris. the idea that there will be fight is starting to fall by the wayside. they did pledge already for the run for presidency.
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joining us now is the chair of the democratic party. the first that announced the delegates to ms. harris. >> pink you for having me. >> can you help our viewers watching understand what it meansr you to have done this. what your options were. did you know that you would have to make this decision? walk us through the importance. >> we are proud to be the first state to vice support toward vice president harris and stand behind her. and becoming the nominee of the party. we did not plan for this. we had a previous meeting on the calendar for today. just before that, president biden issued the statement to the people of bowing out of the
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race. when the call started, the vice president had not even known publicly if she wanted to be the nominee. we had an opportunity to have a real discussion about the future of the country and what it means to us to swiftly move beyond the moment that we have seen play out and lead the charge. i figured we were probably the only in that moment and helping to leave that charge and set the tone for closing out this process and coalescing around the nominee that can continue to deliver the results. all of our delegate, there was no defections and no contention. everyone understands that we have a mission which is to defeat donald trump. >> there was essentially no hard-core debate and no big
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disagreement. it was essentially a unanimous decision. >> the biggest part of the discussion is delegates wanting to know how quick with the dnc rollout rules and how the process would play out. there was no one standing up trying to say we need another candidate or option. all of those delegates understand that it is important to support the nominee and that vice president harris is the most qualified person to step into that role. he believed she was ready to be president on day 1. we decided to stand behind her because we believe she is ready to be president. she has been in tennessee whether this is will shooting of the death of tyre nichols, she has been here on the ground. we want to make sure that if
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the process plays out over the next few weeks, we are steadfast in our support for vice president harris to become an historic first woman president of the united states. >> let me ask you about something, we understood happened but we don't know much about what happened on it. there was a call this evening with all the party chairs. were you on that calling can you tell us anything? was it previously scheduled or was it ad hoc and pulled together in the wake of the announcement. >> it happened quick we. we had a lively discussion about the future of the country and the contents of the call,
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we have -- between party chairs. as we progress, we will see state parties dealing with how you coalesce delegates around the nominee. once the process is laid out, much of that dialogue and -- will take back to the state and begin to rally troops around the nominee. >> the first state democratic party to announce that all of its delegates are pledged to kamala harris. i appreciate you helping us understand the process. >> thank you for having me. >> politico is reporting on the meeting that took place last night.
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between president biden and to of his closest and longest serving advisors. according to politico it is stark reporting. the two men presented president biden with new concern for lawmakers and updates on a fund- raising operation that slowed considerably. they also brought new internal polling which showed joe biden's path to victory was gone , according to 5 people familiar. when he first started fielding questions about whether or not he would heed the calls that he should not had the ticket and that someone else would have a better chance at taking on donald trump, one of the things he said was he would get out if he believed or was brought data that showed he did not have a path to victory and did not
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have a way to win. reporting tonight that data was delivered to him last night at his home in delaware where he has been isolating with covid. that is internal polling. we can't confirm it publicly or through our own rip boarding. we have had -- closely watching the polls. the national correspondent has been looking at polling that was staring president biden in the face. also, the bits and pieces that we have gotten about how a presidential candidacy of kamala harris might look different than what president biden was against. >> a couple of things. let's look at it this way.
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this is an average of all of the polls that have been conduct did since the debate. nationally, the average had him running two points behind. a couple of things to say. in 2020, when he defeated trump, never did trump ever lead in the polling average. biden led from start to finish. here is trump leading in the average. we have seen this for a long time. it was the end of last summer that for the first time, donald trump drew level with joe biden and pulled ahead. he has been there since. in some ways looking at these numbers since the debate as a lot of democrats look up in the debate and said not quite what we expected in terms of performance.
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one of the things that happened, numbers didn't change dramatically. the polling numbers did not change dramatically. a lot of democrats looked at them for the first time and started to take them more seriously. we have been seeing numbers like this for a year or so. we do have swing state polling. some he is down high single digits. that complicates the path when you see the article thing the path is gone, i would caution, it will forever be unprovable. that will always be a subjective statements. just as a reference point, remember, the entire political world including donald trump's party concluded that the path to presidency was on and donald
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trump won in 2016. that will always be academic. we will never know. that is what the national polling has been showing. then it has become okay if kamala harris becomes the candidate, does that change things? the same polls that produced this average, but to be show when harrises substituted? a difference but difference of a point. an average of 46% and trump 47%. you look at this and kamala harris is not entering at least in the head to head standpoint with an obvious strength over joe biden nor with a weakness in comparison. those numbers are pretty close to the same in terms of a starting point. also the basic impression. this is the average when you ask, do you have a favorable or
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unfavorable view. biden 36/57. these are perilous numbers. what are they for kamala harris, average 38 and 52. take a step back. those are not strong. the comparison to trump, trump averaging 41 favorable and 55 unfavorable, also not strong. just a tick above biden and harris. again this is the starting point. the question is what happens in the next week or two weeks as this rollout as a candidate begins. does she get a second look, do the numbers improve? is there movement in the horserace and is there a backlash. she'd be the first candidate
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from either party to be the nominee without contesting in name the presidential primaries. is there any backlash to that. if it is harris or whoever, this is the battleground. if it is harris versus trump, we talked about it a lot. the course states, every single one of the states was won by joe biden in 2025. biden flipped from donald trump in 2016. harris, if she is the nominee doesn't have to win all of the states but the states i reference that polling that was showing biden down. mid-single digits or worse. she is going to have to win a number of the states. maybe those three midwest states that could hold. the other challenge, the polling that came out was suggesting and there wasn't enough to be
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definitive, it was suggesting that democrats were getting into trouble outside of the core battleground states. in particular, polling from virginia that showed a close race. virginia thought to be solidly blue. new hampshire, joe biden won by seven points in 2020. polling mayor had a competitive race. there were rumblings about the statewide vote in the state of maine and maybe minnesota or even new mexico. there wasn't a time of polling. there were some indications. that is the other order of business. can they make sure there is no trouble in those states and then solidify enough of the swing states to win. >> could i ask you a technical question?
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it does seem like what is happening in democratic politics is the consolidation around vice president harrises fast, overwhelming and likely to be pretty much complete and in short order. if there isn't going to be a protracted fight and it's clearly going to be vice president harrises the nominee, how soon would you expect high quality swing state polls to emerge that reflect that? >> specifically when you say swing states, that complicates it. in terms of national, i would say in two weeks or so we should get a readout. you can just imagine what's going to be happening. the profiles of kamala harris and interviews. what ever the rollout looks like immediately. the real test nationally of is she getting a new look. plenty of polls i would expect. the hesitation on the swing states, we haven't had a lot.
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those polls that we have, a lot of them don't necessarily fall into that proven commodities. they have long track records widely thought to be -- we have had some. they have shown some trouble for joe biden but one of the realities we have had, this cycle is not a time of high quality swing state polling. in terms of when we will start to get a readout, i am not sure. it might take longer. if there is going to be significant movement one way or the other, i think you will at least get a clear indication in the national polling. >> we really appreciate having you here as we continue to
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cover this, let's bring in simone sandra townsend. >> i can feel the heat coming off your phone. she is now the cohost of the weekend. had to ask you the question. where were you when you heard the news and how did you learned and what was your first reaction. >> i was pulling up to my mother-in-law's house. i was supposed to be dropping something off. one of the senior producers called said making sure we saw the email. she said joe biden dropped out. >> that is where wise. than when i walked into her house i told her and her sister and my sister-in-law that he was still the president but no longer a candidate.
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>> what was your initial reaction and what have you learned as we've all been not just consuming the news but talking with sources and developing our own reactions. >> i expected this was the point that he would come to. he was swimming against the tide. i was shocked that it happened. i was sad for the president. someone who dedicated his entire life. he got into office when he was 29. and the third time he ran for president, he got the nomination and was elected handled covid and did all of these things only to be backed against a wall from members of his own party and he made a decision that i think many elected officials would not have had the courage and
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statesmanship and foresight to do what he did today. there was sadness but also intrigue nests about the fact that he endorsed vice president harris immediately of the nominee. my phone started blowing up and they were officials that noted they had gotten calls already. many of them had missed the calls. people just asking what happens now? i got on the phone with some dnc members who noted that there were processes in place and you have confirmed they are still planning to do a virtual nomination. similar to 2020. two weeks from now we will have an official nominee from the democrat's. >> it has been my feeling that
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any question about whether or not there would be some sort of open process or surprise announcement or many primary or open conventions. all of that seems to be settling tonight. now i believe it is four parties having already pledged all of their delegates to vice president harris with the unequivocal endorsement. we have at least seven democratic governors including several that were themselves seen as candidates were potential running mates. they have endorsed her. senators are lining up to endorse her. progressives and moderates. important groups including labor unions endorsing her. there is other information out there too. maybe i should be less
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blinkered about it but my subjective experience is that she is the nominee. >> my sense is she is doing what she said she would do. she said she intends to earn and win. the fact that in the immediate aftermath, she was on the phone picking up the phone and calling people and asking for support. it is important to note that it was not blindly given. i know he is one of the folks that vice president harris called and had a conversation prior to the sub court being given. that is how you win and how you lockup support and how you build a coalition. i don't think there will be bumps or hiccups on that and. this is going to be a rigorous, 107 days. after the democrats do their
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business, people are going to vote in early set timber. this is not a situation where -- in that just because he was old as white was so close. it was close because there are people that want to support what donald trump and jd vance are offering. in georgia, last election, a little over 11,000 votes. i don't think people should expect that the margins will all of a sudden widen. if not then it means something is wrong with or some actual issues with her candidacy. this will always be close. democrats will have to hunker down and do the work. i look forward to seeing if we see a debate between her and trump.
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>> that question is wide open. that dynamic, this internal fight within the party at which is a heartfelt and emotional and difficult fight is now over. early voting starting before. symone sanders-townsend, thank you. we have much more to come. claire mccaskill has insight to share about why schumer and pelosi and obama have not yet explicitly joint the endorsements and, after we take a break, we will be speaking with jasmine crockett. she is particularly great tonight because she just spoke with vice president harris.
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welcome back to our coverage that joe biden will no longer stand for his reelection and he is endorsing kamala harris. there has been a steady flow of news as the democratic party coalesces around the candidacy of vice president harris. to more governors, phil murphy and jay inslee have added their names to the list of democratic electives that have thrown support to vice president harris. raphael were not, the senator
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from georgia, now lending his endorsement. >> governor westmore of maryland has an eminent endorsement coming as well. he is doing that as an event tomorrow. right now i will bring in our friend and favorite, jasmine crockett from texas. i understand you have just gotten off two big calls. the win with black women, that busted capacity. also with the vice president, and you want to tell us anything? >> i was never one of those
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leaky people also know i have nothing to say. other than what i'm sure people already know which is i stand 10 toes down with her to become the next president of the united states. i made it very clear very early that if joe was out there is only one person i would work for. if you all decide to go any other way, have fun without. the only person that i will get out there and break my back for and campaign for and believe in is kamala harris. >> you mentioned joe manchin. , it is confirmed that she got a call from him to inquire about the nomination.
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she did remind him, that he would have to be a democrat to do it. let's talk about it. you have been very clear, the push to get biden to stand down is not something your constituents were in support of. we both spoke to a lot of civilians that were angry about it. what do you make of how the process played out and are you confident there is no way to stand in the way of harris payment >> i am not confident. i will be working on working. there's another call going on now.
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i have been in touch with delegates that pledged themselves to biden. we are in process of contacting all of the texas delegation. i do know that behind closed doors, there were people that it can't be her. in one breath they were saying the president needs to be out but it can't be her. that is one of the reasons i was fearful that way we would end up falling into a trap of chaos which we have done a good job of making it clear that the chaotic party is republicans as we have watched them perform a straight up clowns. the fact that we would eat our own was disappointing, especially because i knew it wouldn't be a smooth transition nevertheless everybody knows, i
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was doing everything i could for the president i will for the vice president. i was just in phoenix. i have around the country. i have been to philly four times i've been to michigan. a lot of the people, i hadn't seen them fighting for this. now that they got their way, my only request is will you lace up your shoes and do some work. if it was the president that was the problem then get to work.'s i appreciate you at all times. you were one of the first people to bring up project 2025. you have always made it clear there wasn't a decision to make. democracy or dictatorship. a family man or a felon. you made the choice clear but some people were struggling.
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i know her heart. the fact that i got a phone call from her. i am just a freshman member of congress. it tells you the type of person she is. i can't say i would know for sure that i would be here today without the inspiration of kamala harris which i was able to share. the fact that as a young black female lawyer, i looked her when she first became unelected prosecutor in the bay area and i have been following her career the entire time. if anybody thinks it is going to be easy, it is not. we need all hands on deck. >> thank you. is someone when he first got the readout, she was one of the kind people that reached out. people will get to know who she is. there will be a lot of attend from around her coming up.
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people will find out the lovely person she is. i would like to see a debate. people would pay money for that. thank you so much. i appreciate you. >> thank you. >> thank you rachel and back to you. >> i don't know what they're going to do. donald trump is already complaining that it is somehow against the rules and unfair. donald trump is posting that it's not cool because they adjusted the whole convention about running against someone different. they want a do over. you know you have made a wise decision.
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>> a couple of hours ago, just after 7:00 pm eastern, the fundraising group, actblue announced the stunning figure. they said that in five hours, since he made the announcement, they raised $27 million. the just posted up date. $46 million has been raised in a little more than seven hours since the announcement was made. this would be or this is already just at seven hours. that is not even halfway
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through the day. it is already the biggest online democratic donation hall since 2020 election. that is with only seven hours on the ticker and still counting. >> you have this expression about events that create their own weather. no one has asked you to tell your story so i am going to do it. >> i was in the audio studio and was re-recording the ending section of the next episode of my podcast hurt i get a little focused. i was on the 40th take and now i'm going to have to do 40 more.
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she said i am really sorry. i know we will have to do a few more takes. >> i hope that is recorded. >> if you are listening to episode seven and my voice sounds totally irrelevant and my cadence gets crazy, you'll know i was deeply distracted. >> i am really happy. to bring in all of our conversations. the two-part question, i have had enough conversations to wonder -- tell us what you
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understand about how this came to be. >> it happened at a great moment. i was surrounded by 13 of my 15 grandchildren when i got the news at my home here in st. louis. it was a sad moment but i was not surprised or not shocked. i'm just gonna say, i think it will be us move transition to kamala harris is the nominee. i want to say i think there is a reason that president obama and chuck schumer and nancy hello's and jeffrey have not endorsed her today and it is simple. too many people perceived that they were the people that were getting biden out of the race. what finally moved him was the data. staff brought him numbers from
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swings they that showed not only was he running 10 or 15 points behind, democratic senators in the same states and clearly underwater but also he was losing ground and others they that they had thought were safe. i think it was people's opinion that moved joe biden to do a selfless and patriotic thing. what you're seeing is what chuck schumer and nancy pelosi and barack obama and -- hoped he would see. that is a natural coalescing around the qualifying selection to be there. that is kamala harris. >> what do voters that haven't paid attention to the work.
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some of that behind-the-scenes. a lot of it, she has been all over the country as a policymaker and lead advocate. talking to women that have been affected by the supreme court. she is one of the first officials to talk about project 2025. in the last 3.5 weeks she put this anxiety and uncertainty on her back and was really stellar. what do people not know about vice president kamala harris? >> they don't know much about her and that will now change. this is a woman that has overcome odds at every step. she was never supposed to win elected d.a. in san francisco. she was never supposed to be in the attorney general's race. keep in mind, these races in california, even though they may not be competitive with
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republicans, they are brutal in the primary process. she has overcome the odds and then to win, i served with her on homeland security in the senate. this is a tough/smart woman with a big heart. i was hoping everyone would give her a chance to open up and listen to who she is and where she has come from. she has not been all over the country but all over the world. she is very prepared. i think america is going to really like her once they get to know her. i think too many people, vice president is a tough job to get the attention and the chance you need to prove yourself. you are diminished by the nature of the job. now she has a chance to show people who cs. to give her a fair shot, she's going to be the first woman president of the united states. >> anytime anyone says it.
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it is so great to talk with you. thank you for being here. rachel, back to you. stacked a little more news has broken, it appears that we now have yet another state where the delegates have been pledged to kamala harris. that is true in tennessee, north carolina and south carolina and new hampshire. now louisiana. in louisiana the delegates will be pledged to vice president harris. this is turning out to be a predictable cadence of events here joining us now is presidential historian. we talk a lot about of things that are age historic and mrs. h. where were you?
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>> i am working on a book on race and american presidents and i got a text from a kid that could not believe it happened so soon. i will tell you, at noon today i was not smiling this way. i was worried that people around joe biden might somehow convince him to hang on. that was a wrong feeling. three quick moments in history i would like to mention. one would be 1795. george washington, although he could've stayed in power for life that i am leaving because democracy is giving up power when you do not have to. that is what he established. 2021, january 6, donald trump tried to steal our democracy by hanging onto the presidency when it was against the law. finally, the third moment in the sequences today.
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joe biden, who could have dug in his heels as some predicted and hung on for a few more weeks said i am going to relinquish power because if i keep on, the democrats might lose the election and elect donald trump and with that we will lose democracy. all i am saying is we have heard all of those speeches that he has given about democracy, i never questioned that he meant it. anyone that had any question demonstrated that this is a huge towering figure in the history of democracy. >> in the arguments about whether or not it should happen, one of the arguments against him leaving was that there would be chaos in the party. we would go into an open convention and no one would know who the nominee would be. it will be a free-for-all and a leaderless party. today that has not proven true.
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if the democratic party, state party chairs and delegations and elected officials and everybody else saying that we agree with the judgment that vice president harris is the right next leader. that itself is a historic coalescence. >> no chaos. that is one of the great things about american history. president truman pulled out at the end of march in 1952 after losing the new hampshire primary. no one knew who would be nominated and turned out it was stephenson. lyndon johnson did the same thing after almost losing the primary. it was a tumultuous year but hubert humphrey was almost elected president. his successor and lost by 400 thousand votes against richard nixon. i think we have to have faith
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in the fact that there is some reason why democracy has been healthy for over two centuries. all of us should be more hopeful than we have been. >> thank you. tomorrow morning, two of the pizza we mentioned, we have been talking about his potential running mates will join morning joe. governor roy cooper will be on morning joe as is andy bashir. tomorrow night at 8:00 pm eastern, we will be back with more special coverage. i will see you then. meanwhile, news continues. coverage of the state continues with stephanie rule. known for creating memories. known for strong family ties. no one wants to be known for cancer, but a treatment can be. keytruda is known to treat cancer. fda-approved for 17 types of cancer, including certain early-stage
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