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new york on a historic and selfless act, president biden stepping down, with his hand-picked successor, kamala harris, making her first public appearance, a traditional reception of ncaa championship teams. >> his performance is unmatched in history. his honesty, his integrity, his commitment to his faith and his family, his big heart, and his love, deep love of our country. i am firsthand witness that every day our president joe biden fights for the american people and we are deeply, deeply grateful for his service to our nation. no direct mention of her campaign there, but with the

election just 106 days away, the race has been turned upsidedown with the democratic party uniting around a new nominee. the trump campaign recalculating its strategy. donald trump and his allies insisting if biden cannot run for republican, he should resign right now, ignores the very different physical demands of those two roles. reaction from across the country on joe biden's decision to stand down. >> it's kind of crazy that it happened just now. still trying to process it. >> it caught me by surprise. i thought it was fake news, because i saw it on facebook. >> i don't know if it's a good or bad thing. >> the thought of her becoming president, it was very, very exciting for me. >> i hope they look at the person and not just she's a woman and she's a woman of color. >> yeah, they can put her in the lead position, but i don't think

the world's ready for a female president. >> i think america might be razy, given some of the issues coming up this fall, like abortion. >> i don't think her performance as vp has been notable, so i really don't think that would make a difference for me. >> i don't think she has a chance. i think it was a horrible decision. >> all for it, voting blue whether it's joe on top or kamala on top. >> the biden campaign has refiled as harris for president, transferring the campaign coffers and machines. she will truthful to wilmington to campaign headquarters, whether she will speak to staff. adding, together we're going to win this. she's already racking up $50 million donated in the hours after biden made his announcement, and a growing list

of endorsements. harris says she intends to earn and win the nomination, a process that democratic sources tell nbc news could happen in as also as two weeks with a virtual roll call. keep party leaders have not endorsed her, or anyone else, a reminder that her candidacy is not a done deal, and still possible a mini primary could erupt. we start with mike memoli, kellie o'donnell, "new york times" chief white house correspondent peter baker and from "the washington post" ashley parker, and national editor phil rucker. kelly is on a rainy south lawn. what did the vice president say in her first comments since all of this happened, changing her life and certainly the nation's politics? >> reporter: what is very clear is that kamala harris wanted to

project she's been a good partner for the president, a loyal partner, and to make the very personal connection that she got to know him first through his son, the late beau biden, when she and the younger biden were attorneys general of their states, she -- he in delaware and she in california. this event for the ncaa, champions from the ncaa, this was supposed to be an event for the president, if not for covid. she stepped in, and wanted to be very clear about giving him the respect she feels he deserves, the respect of this moment to talk about his accomplishments and his communitiment to the country. putting aside for now the obvious, the new interested in her not just as vice president, not just as a member of the ticket, but as the chosen one of

the president to be the next standard bearer for the democratic party. we know that's not a completed process, but she's embracing it. we've been told by advisers that she wanted to give the president his due and make clear she's been loyal and working with him and seen firsthand his accomplishments, and then to have her own rhythm of stepping into the campaign world. some of that will happen today going to wilmington, the president's hometown, which is why the campaign has been head quartered there, and now they have already changed the logo and letterhead, moving forward. from her first public appearance to getting on the campaign trail today, after working the phones all weekend as her life and the life of the democratic party has been turned upsidedown. andrea? >> thank you, kellie o'donnell.

the president is still in delaware, still with covid. might we learn more in that speech about how he came to the decision? have we learned any more since we last spoke? >> reporter: chris, what i understand, speaking to the close team of advisers with the president here in rehoboth beach, he looks forward to getting back to washington as soon as he gets the clean bill of health. the first thing he wants to do is speak directly to the american people about this decision, a decision he only revealed in the form of that letter posted to social media yesterday followed, by, of course, that quick endorsement of kamala harris to replace him. some of the qualities that's defined president biden his whole career, and certainly the years i've covered him, one, he's intensely loyal, a foot soldier for the democratic party

throughout his adult life, but also somebody who is a scrappy fighter, somebody who has been counted out and really enjoy and revelled in confounding the skeptics. really over the course of the last 25 days, the qualities have almost come into conflict. after that debate performance, the president wanted to continue to fight his way to prove that he could still do this job, to confound the democratic party skeptics who were calling for him to step aside, and of course, the last week in particular, there was an increasing intention, so that decision he made ultimately was to put the country's and party's interests first. >> peter baker, it was such a tough decision for joe biden. he was so dug in, and reportedly a lot of that had to be with his feelings and jill biden's

feelings. do you have more reporting on how this process played out, and how kamala harris, if she is -- putting her stamp on the campaign? she said she's going to keep the campaign staff as it is. >> reporter: i think part of the challenge for president biden was coming to terms with the idea that kamala harris could win, right? she spent 3 1/2 years as vice president. she hasn't always impressed fellow democrats. her numbers weren't always great and there were doubts about her among a lot of people in the party. one of the challenges of those trying to convince the president that he could in fact step down as a candidate, and still have the party win was convincing him she could win. one way to do that is poll numbers. she runs strongly against trump, and in a couple polls, and she

has a upside potential. people have made up their minds about joe biden in a way that made it harder for him to attract new voters or energize those disenchanted. she's a fresh face, and reintroduce herself to see if she can't, you know, win back some of the democratic voters who had left president biden since 2020. >> ashley, there is a lot of reporting out there that a burst of energy is exactly what's happened here. i wonder, as you're talking to democrats, what their level of confidence is, that she is the person -- kamala harris is the person that can beat donald trump. this framing of former prosecutor versus convicted felon, is that going to set the stage, at least in the early weeks? >> on the prosecutor versus felon, absolutely. i spent a lot of time talking to

harris aides and allies, just about how she would prosecutor the case against donald trump. it's worth noting this was also the theme of her failed presidential campaign in 2020, scherr logan was kamala harris for the people, which were the words she used to introduce the words in court when she was a prosecutors, and at that point she struggled not to make the case against trump, but affirmatively say what she stood for. four years later, that di234578ic has changed. she's still prosecuting the case against trump, but he's, a, now a convicted felon. people around her also say we should think of the idea of a prosecutor more broadly, someone who will prosecutor the case on reproductive rights, much more comfortable talking about that issue, saying the word "abortion" than president biden,

an irish catholic, has ever been. she is break down complicated topics into simple understandable language, and she was recently at the essence fest, where she talked about the supreme court's immunity decision, which can be a little complicated and sort of connected the dots for listeners as to why this, in her view, would make it so dangerous if trump was elected for a second term. so, that's what they expect. they also hope with such a short window, with democrats so roundly focused on one goal, which is beating trump, that that may be enough, and some of those flawing, articulating what she affirmatively stood for, that may fall to the wayside with just 105 days left. >> thank you for that, ashley. there's been a tweet from gretchen whitmer, the governor of michigan, going to that theme

that you and i just talked about. she says, first of all, she's proud to serve as a co-chair of the campaign by kamala harris, but she also says that donald trump is a convicted felon that stokes violence, overturned roe and drove our economy into the ground. we cannot let him near the white house. that's it in a nutshell how they intend to prosecutor their messaging. >> i think you'll hear that message as ashley and you are discussing, that message quite a bit in the next 109 days. we saw on truth social kind of some strange posts, because they're still going after joe biden, at least donald trump was, but, you know, how does the trump campaign adjust?

he's been making age the issue, and now he's the old man in the room, unless something happens the oldest nominee in american history. >> it was trump's preference to run against biden, but you see an emerging strategy. it's to attack harris as a liberal from california, too far to the left on a range of policies, to try to attach all of the baggage of the biden administration on her, because she was his number two, from the messy exit from afghanistan early in the biden administration, and the issue of the immigration. you saw this in an advertisement that the trump campaign put out yesterday afternoon, to try to accuse harris of somehow helping

cover up biden's, you know, acuity and stamina issue as he's been aging to somehow prop up the idea he's still vigorous and fit for office when he's been aging. i don't know if that third argument will have a lot of currency for voters, but certainly attaching her to some of the more you unpopular legacy of biden. we'll very to see what the polls indicates and what things like. that is the emergen strategy right now. >> very quickly -- >> sorry, go ahead, andrea. >> let me quickly ask about this whole push by he and some of his colleagues on the held, that the president to step down now, where there's no procedure for that, and being president is

completely different in running a campaign? does that have legs? >> we're going to have to see. it's an argument we have seen from some republicans, but not necessarily all of them. it's probably an argument that biden will choose to ignore. he only has a number of months left in his term. you're absolutely right, the rigors of campaigning are very different than governing in washington. biden has always been making the case he doesn't run as fast as he used to, doesn't have the stamina necessarily, but is sharp mentally. thank you all. and chris and i will be back in just 90 seconds with perspective how this new race will take shape, and what voters think about the shift. you're watching msnbc. >> she's the vice president. i think she is ready to take on

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adrienne broaddus, what are you hearing from voters there? >> reporter: chris, some voters were left speechless, others had a whole lot to say. when nbc news talked to voters here during the primary, they were not happy. they did not want to see a biden/trump rematch. they wished and hope for alternate candidates. here we are, nearly five months later, partially their request has become reality. >> i was kind of hoping for it. i'm not sure if it's good news or bad news, but i think -- i think it's a good thing that he stepped out and maybe someone else come in. >> i feel like kamala is a

strong woman, and she has knowledge -- she will be a strong candidate. she needs a strong running mate. >> reporter: voters here are enthusiastic. they know they have the ability to swing the outcome of the general election. in 2016, president trump won kent county by nearly 3%. kent county once upon a time was a reliable territory for republicans, but then in 2020, president biden not only won kent county, but the state. so, they voters know they have the ability to do that again. it was biden's debate performance that triggered calls for him to step aside. whether trump decides for a second debate, former president trump is suggesting fox news as

a host, not abc as has been planned, bus his aides have indicated that's not a deal breaker. on "morning joe," james clyburn says he's looking forward to any debate that includes the vice president. >> she can debate. i would look forward to seeing her and 45 on the stage in a debate. she nose what debating is all about. she's well equipped to prosecutor -- i want to emphasize prosecute the case against donald trump. >> joining us now is joe crowley, the former chair of the house democratic caucus, and

former rnc communication director doug heye. the rules committee is dominated by harris people. what about the role of nancy pelosi? she known to have concerns, she said that on "morning joe," i've been reporting that, but joe biden is seeing her as the behind the scenes, you know, puppet master of the opposition in the house, whereas i've been told she was listening to a lot of house members that it was coming up, you know? >> i think that's right andrea. she was listening to her members, in the districts very competitive. there are very few districts that are competitive. she was listening to though folks. >> he's supposed to be so furious, and he and pelosi were so close, closer than with barack obama. arguably he appreciated -- >> i can understand that, and at

the same time, he's made his decision. it's an historic decision. >> and she's all in? >> i think so. i think he has made the right decision. he's always put his country first. it's so admirable. he's a person of character. the other guy is a character. this man has character, he has integrity. he gave a gift to the american people by doing this. i think he'll go down's one of the greatest presidents because of this. he had a success -- at least the first two years in office and got a lot done, a lot accomplished for the american people. now, i think nancy is a leaders. nancy is someone who's deliberate tiff. i think she doesn't want a coronation. she wants to make sure the integrity of the office itself is maintained. i think that's admirable as well. >> doug, this is chris jansing back in new york. by all reporting, this is not what donald trump or his team

wanted to happen. they wanted to run against joe biden. that is not going to be the case. what challenges do you see running against vice president harris present for him and for his campaign? i've been a little surprised, and i wonder if you are, that they haven't seemed to be very focus so far on harris. most of, for example, what we have heard on social media from the former president is attacking joe biden with conspiracy theories, like maybe he never really had covid anyway. >> donald trump likes to kick people when he's down, sort of surprising, but not out of character. for the campaign, they have to make different strategies and different tactics. clearly the number one issue was joe biden's age. that's gone away. whatever you criticize kamala harris on, age is not it. we start by attacking an

opponent's strengths. how many times have we heard jim clyburn say it, prosecutor. she's going to make the case, i'm tough on crime, and donald trump is a criminal. what i've seen is the rnc has been spending months and years as her role as a prosecutor. people say she was moderate prosecutor, so you'll see the rnc and the trump campaign pick apart where she went wrong in individual cases. we're going to hear people she failed to prosecutor or lost cases on become household names pretty quickly. i think the other thing we will see the trump campaign do is try to make some kind of tack around abortion. you hear how she will prosecute that case against donald trump,

as congressman crowley mentioned, there's less of those, but they're critically important. that's a place for the trump campaign to test this moderate or nuanced ground that donald trump is trying to take. he doesn't do nuance very often, which means it's a difficult place for him. democrats will be aggressive, no down. >> we're hearing from social media, from john fetterman, saying he's proud to support and be all in for the next president kamala harris. then he retweeted the harris for president logo, which says "let's win this." let's talk about what we really know about what polls tell us. the poll taken before joe biden dropped out and harris was showing better with some.

how is that informing strategy right now? >> i don't think that's shocking. i think she would be the first african american woman to run for president. it's historical. who she picks as a vice presidential candidate, people tend to say who the vice president is doesn't really matter, they focus on the top of the ticket. i think under these circumstances, that people will look at that number to slide. they're looking at states of importance -- pennsylvania, wisconsin and michigan, not to mention maybe north carolina or elsewhere. >> arizona? >> arizona too. mark kelly is a great friend. he's a national treasure and hero. you know, you look at kentucky -- we may not win kentucky, but you bring in

beshear, and some have subjected that democrats have neglected. i don't think that's the case, but here's the chance to do something extraordinary in term of the overall ticket. >> i've just been handed that john fetterman, as you know, one of the early and most passionate supporters of joe biden has just endorsed kamala harris. let's talk about doug heye some of these governors. who do you think that republicans would be most concerned about, and who do you think would best attract the white male suburban voters that kamala harris is having trouble with. let me read a couple things off to you. governor josh shapiro of pennsylvania, andy beshear of kentucky, roy cooper, senator

mark kelly, they've all been mentioned as potential vp picks. what do you think may help them most? >> it demonstrates they have a deep bench. being a tarheel, i'll say things about roy cooper. >> he's term limited, but 67 years old. is that an asset? >> i think it's an asset. it means he's seasoned without being elderly, like the concerns we have with donald trump and certainly also joe biden. it's a deep bench. certainly arizona with mark kelly, helps you in suburban phoenix. josh shapiro, looking to maximize the voting in pennsylvania around suburban philadelphia, very important. then you talk about raleigh and charlotte, all of these areas, this is a good problem for democrats to have, but also mindful to our previous

question, the rnc research department is going through all of the record, but we're going to find out in the coming weeks. >> one thing about arizona and mark kelly, he's the only one in this group with some foreign policy experience, as a former -- as a veteran, former astronaut, and the gabby giffords story, and a border state on immigration. >> one thing governors always do, they go on foreign aid trips, where it isn't real foreign policy experience. they'll want to emphasize this as they loudly demonstrate that they're behind kamala harris. >> mark is a great friend and great guy, and gabby, there was also an attempted assassination on her, but one of the names not on that list is tim walz has

military experience as well. >> mark kelly is galactic. he sauce russia from a spaceship [ laughter ] doug and joe, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up next, chris and i will talk about former president trump holed up in his florida resort, how he is reacting to joe biden's decision to step aside. stay with us. s decision to step aside. stay with us

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nearly 24 hours since president biden exited the 2024 race and endorsed vice president kamala harris, donald trump has not spoken publicly, though he has posted conspiracy theories and biden criticism on truth social. in recent weeks he had ramped up his insults against the vice president and the trump campaign says they're ready. the trump campaign is expected to make public remarks on wednesday at a north carolina rally. vaughn, what do we know about the plan against the apparent new nominee kamala harris. >> i was with him in grand rapids saturday night, and he was not the donald trump -- the old school, the intonation, the

attacks goings against kamala harris, calling her crazy, nuts, and this is donald trump. i was talking to a senior campaign official saying they had been preparing for a number of options. i talking to michael watley at the event, and he said it's not a matter of the messenger, but the message. >> does that indicate that the polling for kamala harris was strong? that sounds like a non-dename. >> their internal polls was liking like our, some with her outperforming and other polls biden outperforming her. that's where the landscape changes. you know, the campaign for donald trump is looking at seven key battleground states,

suddenly when you look at the vp picks, there is suddenly a different dynamic to this race with heart ross atop the ticket. another is will there be at president yale debate? >> that's a key question. >> they're suggesting there had be a debate. donald trump wasn't it on fog news. there is nothing predictable about donald trump, but backing out from a debate against kamala harris? it will nod be a good look. >> i covered her campaign day to day in 2019. the voters consistently told me, and why they considered her, she would be the best to go together to toe against donald trump. that could within her sights, too. >> vaughn, thank you. hot seat, on capitol hill

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with a surge of enthusiasm for democrats. >> the leading donation processor act blue reported small dollars donation, the number is now $55 million. joining is seth moulton from massachusetts. you were one of the first democrats to call on president biden to end his reelection bid. you wrote, mo recently you saw him in a small group at normandy for the anniversary of d-day, and for the first time he didn't seem to recognize you. how do you feel about the race now with kamala harris as the leading contender. >> i have to say i feel better. i'm optimistic. i think we have a path to win now. i'm incredibly proud of

president biden for doing something that took a lot of courage, following in the footsteps of george washington, having the courage to give it up, to pass on the torch. he will be remembered with a great legacy for service, decades in the senate, 12 years in the white house. to give up power when it was the right thing to do for the party and the country. i think yesterday was a great day for america, for the democratic party, but also a great day for joe biden. >> let me ask you about what happens now. we know there's been widespread reports of enthusiasm in congress, a lot of voters are telling our reporters out there they're happy for the change, but realistically what do you see as the challenge facing the campaign logistically and kamala harris strategically. we just heard from the speaker of the house, this doesn't change the dynamics at all. >> your use of the worse

logistically is really important. from my military background, there's a saying that amateurs talk strategy, professionals talk logistics. kamala harris is logistically in a major position to take on all of the resources that president biden accumulated, to full right into in on the infrastructure. she's already raised so much more money to add to it, because there's a bigelow gist cal operation that has to go into getting out the vote, campaigning all across the country, and introducing herself and her platform -- not president biden's platform, but her platform to the american people. she's ready to hit the ground running because she has the logistics in place. that's why i was proud to endorse her myself as our nominee. >> tell me, congressman, request vice president harris, break

through, and mobilize voters in the critical states. she can win massachusetts, but in pennsylvania, in michigan, in georgia, in arizona? can she win the white males, mitt tear veterans. the democrats are so far behind in nevada in the suburbs. people like your fellow marines, will they vote for her? >> she absolutely can. look, she's got work to do. she's been in the shadow of the president the last four years, she has to get out there and put forward her own platform, a vision for the future, all these things that we know about the vice president, but introduce herself to a lot of voters who only know her through her reputation as vice president. she has a couple great opportunities. one, she can talk about the amazing things the biden/harris team has achieved, like the chips act, the infrastructure law, but she's also her own person, her own leader.

she can separate herself from policies where she may have disagreed with the president. maybe she has a better idea how to secure our border, for example. she now has the opportunity to not just be in president biden's shadow, but to present the case to america. a national poll had her just two points behind donald trump. when people see her optimistic vision it will be a contrast to donald trump's dark project 2025 vision, bringing us backwards in time, doing thing to dramatically increase inflation across america. what a contrast it will be between kamala harris' forward-looking vision, donald trump's backward-looking vision. we saw these polls for a long time in this race, a majority of americans did not want either nom near. the democratic party has concerned. we're heard the concerns.

here is a new leader. i think that will be exciting to a lot of people across america, including the swing voters you're talking about in the middle. >> vice president nominees generally don't move the needle, i wonder if the late nature, the drama of it, congressman, makes that selection more important than it might otherwise be. do you have a preference for, if indeed kamala harris is the nomination should choose? >> offa preference, that's a hard choice, and that's a good problem for the vice president to have. there's a lot of talent on the democratic bench. she has a lot of people to choose from, bringing different experiences, representing different geographical areas of the country. i think in the process of looking at potential different vice presidents, it will showcase the depth of talent in the party today. >> congressman seth moulten, thanks so much.

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against former president donald trump. joining us now is nbc news capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. bring us up to speed. director cheatle is facing calls to resign from both sides of the aisle for not protecting the roof, not warning of a suspicious person a full hour before the shooting, ignoring a drone that the suspect flew around the rally site hours before trump took the stage. how does she defend herself from all that? >> reporter: all these details are ones she's being pressed on right now, andrea, in a hearing stretching past its second hour. look, we expected this to be a grilling. we also heard colorful expletive language from lawmakers showing frustration with the fact that cheatle is not offering specific explanations for many of the things you just laid out. questions about how the roof itself was not protected, what she would say to americans who pay the secret service to do exactly this kind of protection and who fell short in butler,

pennsylvania and for former president donald trump. all of this, of course, is coming against the backdrop of lawmakers who have been briefed but are still feeling like they're not getting answers to important questions. while we typically end up seeing these hearings fall along partisan lines, this is certainly an exception to that, both republican and democratic members are saying they're wanting answers and calling for cheatle to step down. she has said for her part in this hearing that she still believes she's the best positioned person to lead this agency at a critical time, not just as they finish up with the rnc and the nato conference that was just here in washington, but as they look ahead to the inauguration early next year and the dnc just a few weeks from now. all of those fall under the secret service's purview. there's one specific instance that we're looking at where she talks about the idea that she also was made aware of the fact that this was a suspicious person. but she also made clear to say that secret service detail would not have allowed donald trump on stage if there had been a more

visceral threat. those are two terms that mean different things. of course, to a hearing like this with so many questions, it might fall on deaf ears. >> ali vitali, thank you so much. a big day on the hill. there's so much more going on. so "more news than you can possibly fit into just one hour. stay tuned. >> we have a lot more coming up. we'll be joined by our colleague katy tur to bring you the latest. you're watching special coverage of president biden's exit from the 2024 race. iden's exit from the 2024 race. they get it. they know how it works. and most importantly, it works for them. i don't have any anxiety about money anymore. i don't have to worry about a mortgage payment every month. it allowed me to live in my home and not have to make payments.

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