thank you so much for letting us into your homes and for three hours during these truly extraordinary and historic times. i'll be back in one hour as rachel maddow and our primetime friends pick up our special coverage. it's time for "the reidout" with joy reid. this is so fun, i get to say hi to you. >> i love this so much. howdy, neighbor. it's so good to be beside you on the television. >> i'm going to go up and watch your interview with wes moore, governor wes moore. >> thank you very much, my friend. i'll see you soon on the special. have a good one. all right, everybody. welcome. "the reidout" --

>> we love joe and jill. we really do. they truly are like family to us. and we -- everybody here does. >> it's mutual. >> i knew you were still there. you're not going anywhere, joe. >> i'm watching you, kid. i love you. >> i love you, joe. >> it's so adorable. vice president kamala harris at campaign headquarters in delaware with president biden cheering her on, on the phone, as the torch is passed to harris in this critical election. we have some great guests to discuss this historic moment. governor wes moore, senator elizabeth warren, and representatives jim clyburn and maxine waters. also, we have a big announcement about our reidout project 2025 coverage that has gone viral in a big way and it's about to get even bigger.

>> but we begin tonight with wincing history. game of thrones style. if you live long enough and observe politics long enough, you're liable to see some amazing things. and over the weekend, political observers and journalists and historians got to witness one of them. the finale of the clash between two of the most powerful individual figures in modern political history. nancy pelosi, arguably the most effective house speaker of the modern era, and the current speaker emerita, and joe biden, the president of the united states. ms. pelosi, who ceded the leadership to hakeem jeffries more than a year ago in a passing of the torch that was an elegant and seamless as anything we have seen in modern politics, led what can only be called a political coup d'etat against biden. the 81-year-old president who in a debate three weeks ago displayed a physical weakness that sent his party into a literal existential panic.

a panic that became the fixation of the media and a cause among rich democrat, donors. thought leaders, and elected democrats on capitol hill who collectively came to see biden as a liability for their own re-elections and for the critical race against the fascist cult leader who has vowed to be a dictator on day one. the twice impeached, multiply indicted felon, adjudicated sexual abuser and failed former president donald trump. at stake, well, just our democracy. nothing too big. the push to oust biden from the election involved weeks of private and public pleading, with house members and senators going on record and in letters and in leaks to the press. the increasingly vocal and urgent calls for biden to step aside and make way for a younger candidate who could more effectively take the fight to trump divided the party in some ways along racial lines with black and latino members seeing a deeper play at work to oust not just biden but kamala harris

too. as the fury inside the party heated up, democratic donors began to make the money dry up and threatened to not put another penny into the race until biden was no longer the nominee. and pelosi, chuck schumer, and house minority leader hakeem jeffries let it become public that biden should go. i want him to know it was me. then over the weekend, as biden recovered from covid holed up in his delaware home with just his family and close friends and aides around came the coup de gras. they shared catastrophic internal polling with him and first lady jill biden that showed a certain defeat in november, not just for joe biden but for democrats down ticket too. and so biden relented, putting his country before his own ambition. but reportedly not with zero bitterness toward the party he has served his entire adult life. pelosi coup succeeded, when on sunday afternoon, july 1st,

2024, biden released a letter announcing he would no longer seek a second term. but joe biden, a man who has been in politics since he was 29 years old, as a senator and then committee chairman, a two-term vice president, and the president of the united states, after winning the office on his third try by beating the man hillary clinton couldn't, a man who has endured excrucuating and repeating personal loss and tragedy and allowed it to fuel his determination to save the soul of his country, that guy had one more card to play. less than half an hour after he announced his withdrawal, biden exercised what in many ways is the greatest power any leader can. the power to choose your own successor. he bypassed the rumored wishes of the pelosi and donor crew and fully endorsed his historic vice president, kamala harris, to be the democratic nominee and the would-be first woman, first black woman, and first asian american president.

on the very day that state party delegations were meeting on zoom calls to work out the delegates votes in the upcoming democratic convention. the biden endorsement sent a lightning bolt through american politics unlike anything i have personally seen since then senator barack obama made his debut at the 2004 democratic convention, prompting oprah winfrey to declare him the one. the biden nod posted on his social media accounts prompted state parties and over 200 democratic lawmakers, one by one, to follow their president's lead and endorse harris too. as did the various governors whose names have been tossed around as possible rivals for the nomination. as each one endorsed her, they effectively took their names off the virtual list of competitors. allowing harris to bask in the glow of a captivated media and unbelievable fund-raising. $81 million raised in the first 24 hours of her campaign. that is the largest single day haul of any candidate in

history. and it includes more than $1.5 million that was raised in just a few hours on a late night zoom call with black women which swelled to 44,000 attendees by midnight. and almost exactly 24 hours after biden's announcement, the speaker emerita also fell in line, giving her full-throated endorsement to vice president harris. in other words, joe biden at what looked like his moment of greatest political weakness, reasserted himself as the leader of his party, from his sick bed, and he check mated the speaker's gambit by writing the epilogue to his own history in the record books. her name is kamala harris, first of her name. and the vice president is not wasting any time cementing her victory in his real life political game of thrones. today, visiting her new campaign's headquarters in wilmington, delaware. delivering remarks to her team. >> our campaign has always been

about two different versions of what we see as the future of our country, two different visions for the future of our country. one focused on the future. the other focused on the past. donald trump wants to take our country backward. to a time before many of our fellow americans had full freedoms and rights. but we believe in a brighter future that makes room for all americans. we believe in a future where every person has the opportunity not just to get by but to get ahead. >> joining me now is governor wes moore of maryland. governor, thank you for being here. i want to note for our audience that another endorsement has come in for vice president

harris' presidential run, the afl-cio has unanimously endorsed vice president harris for president. governor, welcome and thank you for being here. i have to say as a former very low level staff person working in campaigns, it's always wonderful when the principal comes to just thank you and not only did vice president harris do that, so did president biden. it's a big deal for staffers. i just want to tell you all of that. what do you make of all that's going on? >> a huge deal. you know, i think that the energy and the excitement we're seeing is real. you know, you don't get to 81 million dollars raised by grassroots donors by accident. in 24 hours, you know, you don't have just an overwhelming flood of endorsements that are coming in from everyone from state legislatures to governors to senators, from the president of the united states. by accident. i think that the vice president is bringing a new type of energy

and also a really powerful coalition to this fight for november. now, and even with that, though, i do think it is important to your point to remember and honor the contributions that president biden made, not just to this country, not just with his policies, not just with the policies of the biden/harris administration and his five years of service, but also remember today could have looked very, very differently had president biden not made the decision yesterday to come out and so forcefully endorse the vice president. it was a very big deal, and i think the entire country took notice. >> i wanted to lay it out that way because i do believe this idea of picking your successor, it's a huge deal, and there was a lot of talk inside the democratic party of throwing it to an open convention and sort of making it kind of randomized, and your name was in there, there were lots of names thrown in there, the governor of pennsylvania, josh shapiro, very popular, so all these names are being thrown in this randomized process. i considered it a power move for

president biden to say nope, i'm going to bless somebody in particular, and really tell my party where i want you to go. and the party followed. to me, anyone on the right in the republican party that wants to declare this a weak president, he showed, no, he's the leader of the party. >> and i think we also saw with the vice president that even if she says she appreciated the endorsement of the presidents of the united states, but even as the vice president said, she's going to go out and earn this. she's going to earn the support of the delegates. she's going to go earn the support of the american people because to win an election, there is no coronation to win an election. we know that the people of this country, they do not like that. they don't support that. and history has shown us that. but the vice president, as you have seen literally from day one, she is out there speaking to the campaign volunteers and speaking to the american people. she is going to go out here and earn this victory. and i have always believed that

the people who go out and put in the work are the people who are going to come out victorious. she's putting in the work. she knows she has an entire army of people behind her ready to put in the work with her, and we're going to make sure she becomes the next president of the united states. >> let's do a preview of what the case is going to look like against donald trump. here is one of the other things she said. this was vice president harris talking about donald trump today. >> before i was elected as vice president, before i was elected as united states senator, i was the elected attorney general, as i mentioned, of california. before that, i was a courtroom prosecutor. in those roles i took on perpetrators of all kinds. predators who abused women. fraudsters who ripped off

consumers. cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. >> governor, you said, you tweeted today, donald trump is about to find out being the president of the united states is a black job. apparently, also delivering a read and reading somebody into the center of the earth is also a black job. because she did so there. your thoughts. >> and she did. and i do think it's important, and we're going to see this from the vice president. she's not just going to prosecute the case of the past. she's going to prosecute the case of the future. and she's not just going to talk about, you know, the fact that we have an unprecedented, unprecedented candidate of any major american political party who has not just been -- not just convicted and twice impeached and still has charges

waiting, but also, it's a -- it's really truly going after what is his vision for the future, that we're talking about somebody who is talking about reducing our freedoms, talking about someone who is talking about restricting women's reproductive health and women's reproductive rights. talking about someone who is going to restrict and confine america's role in the world. he's very clear about what his future is for this country. and so she's not just going to prosecute the case of the past. she's going to prosecute the case for the future. i think that's the thing that's really going to resonate with the american people. >> you know a little something about being a political star and having the world sort of watching you and looking at your future and thinking of dreams of what you could be. the democratic party actually has a really amazing futuristic bench. not just vice president harris, yourself, josh shapiro, gretchen whitmer, you can name there's so many. do you think part of what we have now seen with all of the turmoil that it has caused is that the democratic party is

showing it is the party of the future? it's a party of young, vibrant new voices whereas the other side is like let's go back to the 19th century? >> i think it is. i think it's also a party that is showing a history of having a track record. because when you're talking about what's happening in all of our states, you take maryland for example. we have gone from being 43rd in unemployment when i was inaugurated to having 12 straight months of having almost the lowest unemployment rate in the country. maryland has a precipitous drop in homicides in the entire country. the last time the homicide rate was this low in baltimore, i wasn't born yet. so we're watching massive improvements that we're seeing around the states because we're working together. because we're actually coordinating. and frankly, for each and every one of us that you mentioned because we have such a great partner in the biden/harris administration. and i think there is something about why you're watching all of these leaders who have all come together and say we support the

vice president to be the next president of the united states, not just because we are -- not because we're scared of an alternative, but it's because we're hopeful for the future. where i think about what happened in the state of maryland in the past 18 months since our administration has come onboard, i get excited when i think about look at what's happened in the first 18 months. imagine if you give me another four years. that's why we're all in to make sure that vice president kamala harris becomes the next president of the united states. >> including you didn't mention 174,000 people who are now free of their marijuana convictions and can now breathe and work and live their lives free of that. god bless you. even if you just had done that, it would been a triumph. maryland governor wes moore, thank you, my friend. i appreciate you being here. and coming up next on "the reidout," senator elizabeth warren joins me to discuss vice president harris' strong track record and how she will be able to prosecute the case against donald trump. a little taste of it a minute

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relates to this hearing you're not answering that question and we can move on. can you think of any laws that give government the power to make decisions about the male body? >> i'm happy to answer more specific question. >> male versus female. i'll repeat the question. can you think of any laws that give the government the power to make decisions about the male body? >> i'm not aware -- thinking of any right now, senator. >> i like beer. four years later, justin brett kavanaugh would join four other male justices and one woman in ending the constitutional right of millions of american women. in a post-dobbs landscape, women are second class citizens with

different rights than men, it is a fact, and one that vice president harris has been warning about for years. joining me now is another wonderful woman who has been warning about the same thing, elizabeth warren who served with vice president harris in the senate and competed against her in the 2020 democratic primaries. can literally remember all of this because i remember the two of you being like back to back in all of these things. i said to myself, i said to you, maybe the two of you guys should make it. okay. dobbs has changed everything. has it changed everything enough that people who say, oh, america won't elect a woman, particularly a black woman, are wrong? >> yes, it has changed this world enough. and the reason i know that is it's not just all the energy that has been building for a long time, we can get a woman there, we can make this happen, then people say, really? can we really elect a woman? people say i don't know. it's that dobbs changed it because now, a lot of folks said, you know what, i'm done. i am done with asking

permission. i'm done with trying to do this politely. we are ready to make change. and you know where it started? i want to give real credit here. kansas. >> absolutely. >> you remember? >> absolutely. >> women in kansas, and friends of women also called men, the women in kansas said enough. and we are going to make sure here in kansas that we protect access to abortion. i remember, because soon as i even heard the rumen this was going to happen, i'm on the phone, how can i help? what can we do? they took it on themselves, though, and they fought this battle with a lot of people who had never run for office before, never organized, never done the door knocking and leaflet dropping and all that. it was not the pros. it was the heart. >> and no one expected them to win. then ohio followed, and you look at all these states that you wouldn't expect, and it's republican women too. here's the question, because one

of the things that president biden, he overindexed on was white guys. white men, he did much better than hillary clinton and hillary clinton actually split white women. she got 47%. trump got 49%, which i have never been able to explain it, but it happened. does the calculus change in states where you have been, you said you have recently been in michigan. does it look different, the landscape look completely different to you now, even for white voters? >> just got back from wisconsin literally a couple hours ago. what's interesting to me is to watch this energy. the women who feel like we actually have a chance. we have some power here. our vote is going to matter, not just our vote, we got 100 days, and 100 days you watch what we can do. we can run this all the way. it also is the case, and i always love this, the men who say sign me up for this too. i want to be part of this. because it's about the energy

and ultimately this is what democracy is supposed to be about. look at this contrast. think about this. what happened that we know about a little over a week ago? that is the richard man in the world, elon musk, visits with donald trump, right? they sit down in a room and presumably they negotiate how much money elon musk is going to put on the table in order to get jd vance on the ticket. and they settle on $47 million a month. i want to know how that negotiation worked. but that's what they think the democratic process, that's what they think america is about. >> literally trading cash for power. whatever it is they're going to give these billionaires. >> they'll get together and in return the billionaires are going to get more tax cuts and fewer regulations, and everybody else can pay for that. watch what's happening on the other side. president biden puts country ahead of himself. people are coalescing behind the

vice president. and people are signing up. look how many people have said they went online and they contributed $25, $5, $10, $7. >> i heard $13. the reality is, and i said this to you in the break. the last time i felt this kind of energy, it was 2008. it was president obama. this is -- there is an electricity on the ground among even not even people who are democrats, independents, people who are just sick of looking backwards and saying how quickly can we get to the 1950s. >> that's exactly how i think about this. is that i feel us as a nation turning a page. and the page now is kamala harris is the future. >> yeah. >> she's the one who is going to lead us. she's the one who says i'm tough enough, i'm strong enough, i'm principled enough. and you're not going to shake her. she's going to get this done.

>> do you have a vice presidential preference pick? do some game theory for us? >> i gotta say, this is what i love about -- do you know how deep our bench is? >> there's like half a dozen people she could pick. >> the answer is, i truly don't. after all, vice president harris has been vice president for 3 1/2 years. >> she knows the job. >> she knows the job, and joe biden has relied on her. she's given her tough jobs. he's worked with her, asked her to pick up. look at the fight that she has waged over abortion out on her own. so she knows what a good vice president can mean. all i want for her is that she finds someone she believes that she can trust, that she can count on to get the job done. 100 days we're going to do this. >> it's going to be a sprint. senator elizabeth warren, it's always fun. thank you very much. coming up next, more on just how big of a game changer vice president harris' entry into the race is.

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most americans do not want a rematch between biden and trump. the first party to retire its 80-year-old candidate is going to be the party that wins this election. >> aha. nikki haley's ominous warning

resurfaces as a political action committee of her own voters in a surprising turn pledge their support for democratic vice president kamala harris as presidential bid on sunday. this comes as the main attack on biden and trump, their age, has shifted entirely to the republican ticket. joining me now is melanie campbell, chair of the power of the ballot action fund and jen psaki, former press secretary in the biden white house and host of inside with jen psaki. i'm going to go to you first because this is to me a media challenge, right? in our profession, the media has been quite fixated on joe biden's age. but we still have the oldest man to run for president of the united states in the race. his name is donald trump, and he doesn't remember who is who, he thinks nikki haley ran the capitol on january 6th, you could go on. fidel castro speech last week accepting the nomination. it's clear there's some cognitive decline there. do you expect the media to spend

as much time fixating on donald trump's age as they have on joe biden's? >> look, i don't know what the media is going to focus on. i guess we're in it so we'll help determine that, but i do think if you watch vice president harris' speech she just gave at the biden/harris headquarters, whatever we're calling it now, that was an electrifying speech. it was basically her stump speech, but a lot of people haven't seen that before. you watch that, joy, and juxtapose it with donald trump talking about sharks and being electrocuted and whatever crazy riff he keeps doing on the campaign trail. that in itself is the choice right there. i love her laugh. i think she's so joyful and that is so welcome. that's one of the things that struck me about watching her. and i think that the juxtaposition itself is going to do the work of the difference between these two individuals. she is young.

she's only 59 years old, much younger than donald trump by nearly 20 years. she's also much more joyful. she has a forward looking message. she cares about the american people. she had a lot of great lines in her remarks she gave. we have heard some of them before. she talks about her background as a prosecutor when she said hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. that's such a good line. so is her line, our campaign has always been about two different versions of what we see as the future of our country. and that choice has kind of been missing. so i think if she continues to give speeches like that, the work is going to be done by her being out there. >> yeah, absolutely. she definitely -- and i love her laugh. i hope they keep attacking her for her laugh because women are going to hear that and it's going to hurt you with women more. i was on that epic call, i got in late. i couldn't get in for a while, but by the time i got in, i thought maybe it is going to be over. it ended at 1:15 a.m.

$1.5 million raised in the win with black women call last night. i have never seen anything like it. this energy is phenomenal. what is going to be done with this energy, ms. melanie campbell? >> it was epic. it was epic, epic, epic. and it showed there's a movement going on. i think one of the things that happened yesterday, everyone that i know, including myself, just sunk when we saw president biden's letter. and a few minutes later, wow, bam. here he goes. recommends her and endorses her and recommending her to be the nominee. and everything changed. my phone, my text messages, everything was blowing up. then, with women calling, the crew, and all of us were there. we have been on those calls since we're dealing with the vice president of almost four years ago in the summertime, as

a matter of fact, to continue that fight. i tell you, i have never seen anything like it myself. i have been in this a long time. the closest i think i would say is when president obama won and you knew you were in a movement. it wasn't just a regular election. people said they wanted a change, they're getting change. and they're getting a fresh look from an administration that for the last 3 1/2 years has been also getting major things done. she's going to continue that and take it another step forward for all of us to have a great opportunity in this country. >> yeah. i just want to note for our audience, jaime harrison has now announced the democratic party will deliver a nominee by august 7th when everything will go down. i want to note for the audience frrx the 44,000 people on a zoom does not sound possible. our friend, the founder of black women, she noted that an indian american and head of zoom, helped create the opportunity

for 44,000 people to get on. you're already seeing a lot of unity across groups because obviously part of vice president harris' heritage is south asian. you're seeing all the groups coming together. jen, let's talk a little veepstakes here because a lot of people feel despite all of her wonderful diversity she brings to the table, jamaican background, all of those things, south asian mom, she needs a white guy. that's what everybody is saying. she needs a white guy. which white guy? >> first, i would say i love all of this battleship gamesmanship people are doing in their basements or whatever is happening. >> isn't it more fun than thinking about the handmaid's tale. >> for sure it is, i love it. my text chain from college girlfriends, i'm sure you have it too. everybody has their bets. here's the most important thing. who does vice president kamala harris think she wants to call when she wants to get advice or

bounce things off of somebody. it's not really about a press release. it should not be at all about a press release. it's not even about gaming out electoral votes. yes, that's a factor. there are factors that are more important in my view. when she's sitting behind the desk or whatever desk she chooses, who does she want in the room with her first and last? who complements her talents and her skill sets. and the second piece even before that is the campaign trail, right? she needs somebody who is electrifying on their own, who can do their own events, build their own crowds, raise their own money. there's 105 days left. you can't pick somebody who has no profile and is not electrifying like she is. you need somebody who can go out on their own too. >> and somebody who can take the bark off jd vance. he's made it easy because he's like literally the creature of a billionaire and like really dissed apalasha in his book. there's a lot there, but somebody has to be able to

debate him. up next, president biden dropping out of the race is a huge moment in his half century career in public office. democratic presidential king maker and congressman james clyburn joins me next to discuss the biden legacy. n legacy

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joe biden's legacy of accomplishment over the past three years is unmatched in modern history.

in one term, he has already, yes, you may clap. [ applause ] in one term, he has already surpassed the legacy of most presidents who have served two terms in office. >> vice president harris today calling president biden's record unmatched as she launches her bid for the presidency. her speech on bides's legacy was part of the white house sell braise for ncaa championship teams coming as democrats and labor unions coalesce around kamala in a remarkable show of unity. joining me now is one of the people most responsible for getting president biden elected to the white house, congressman jim clyburn who today joined the chorus of democrats endorsing the vice president. congressman, it is always good to see you. i want to first get what your initial reaction was when you heard president biden will no longer be running.

>> well, very positive reaction. i was with the president for a couple days in nevada last week. and so i came back last weekend and i started reading the tea leaves, listening to things, and thinking about what i saw and felt last week. so when he called me on sunday to tell me he thought that he had made up his mind and would not be running again, i felt good and i felt relieved. because so much was weighing on him, i could see it and i could feel it. and i wanted him to be in a better place. and i think this announcement puts him in a much better place. because he's dedicated to doing what this country needs to continue its trek toward a more perfect union.

that's what joe biden is all about. we got to know each other over those discussions, brown v. board of education and the roles that south carolina and delaware played in all of that. and that's been the foundation of our relationship. he is a real patriot, not a sunshine patriot, but a real patriot. and he is standing by this country at this particular juncture in its history, and i believe that he is doing the right thing. >> you know, a group of historians had ranked president biden the second best u.s. vice president after al gore, and that same set of historians on the presidential greatness project rankings in 2024 ranked him the 14th best president. for what do you think his presidency will most be remembered? >> i think it will be remembered

for restoring this country's legacy. the country had gotten off track, no question in anybody's mind. and we sort of did -- got our high water mark with president obama and the country took a drastic right turn for some reason. a lot of it was in reaction to president obama's elections and a lot of us let our guards down, really. all you got to do is look at the 2014 election. look at what we failed to do. when obama was up for re-election, i believe in 2012. we did not turn out at the polls the way we should have. we somehow thought that we had done all we needed to do by

electing barack obama, and everything else would be on automatic pilot. that's not the way it works. we have to always renew our efforts to maintain this trek toward a more perfect union. and i'm not saying this just to be poetic about it. look at the numbers and you can see the big falloff in the vote four years after his election, and that's what put us to where we are. now, we are behind the eight ball, so to speak, and we have got to go to work and make sure we get the country back on track. >> i will note that in that same set of rankings, donald trump was ranked dead last as the worst president in our history. what is your formula? how do you think he is going to be defeated? are you confident that vice president harris can get it done? >> oh, i'm very confident in her ability to do it.

what we've got to do is make sure that we do our part. she is going to be a great candidate. she is an outstanding personality. she is very, very smart. she is a hard worker, a great debater. we got a dose of that in the south carolina primary back in 2020. joe biden can tell you how good of a debater she is. and i think that donald trump is going to find out how good a debater she is, and it's up to us, the voters, the hard working americans who believe in this country's future to get out and vote to make >> congressman, i think that you and i both, and everyone watching right now, we look

forward to nothing more than watching vice president kamala harris to feed donald trump. i cannot wait, thank you so much for being here. >> next up, maxine on how vice president harris will fight back on the disinformation campaign being waged on the right. we will be right back. back. targeted and long-lasting. i recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ hisamitsu ♪ new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. daily zz for quality sleep. and enxtra for focus and clarity. centrum, powered by clinically studied ingredients. hey folks, chris counahan here with leaffilter, america's largest gutter and gutter protection company. leaffilter has over 150 locations

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they held a primary. they spend money on advertisements. the republican party is running against joe biden. >> this will trigger the identity politics bloodbath. maybe she should not be the standard for the party.

>> how far the mega right is. >> they are terrified of vice president kamala harris. congresswoman, how is this race going to go, we have seen the right go after her laugh, her past, she has dated in the past. this is basically a trick. maybe they will call her names and do all kinds of things. you know, she is not going to be intimidated. she is smart, she is tough.

she knows how it all works now. she has worked at the white house, she is the vice president of the united states and she is smarter than trump. if they come back to her, she will go. >> you know her. talk about who she is as a person. she is a lovely person. what we need to know about her. >> she had a good career. she moved right up the ladder to the vice presidency. all because she is strong and believed in herself. it never dawned on her that she would fail and it was that kind of courage and that defines her. she did all of the right things for the most part of how you climb up the ladder.

she was taught and did all of the things that she was taught to do. she understands that the woman who is on a mission. she is accomplished and she succeeded. >> when she ran as vice president in 2020, she understands her sidemen. >> absolutely. absolutely. come on now. all right then. i do want to ask you about something else because i have you here. she is such a wonderful person, sheila jackson. i would be remiss. >> we just had a moment of silence from her before i left the hall. it is unbelievable that she can

be gone. she was a hard worker and was a determined worker. i put out a tweet about how she use the five minutes to talk. i think she has had more amendments as a congresswoman than any member of congress. >> that's right. we are going to miss her. she is very smart. >> what do you think she will would say about the democratic nominee? >> she would be the forefront of it all. organizing to call on you every day. she would take all of the time that she possibly could to advance this presidency. she would want to see a woman,

and of course, a woman of color. she would be right there. >> let's talk about president biden. you were a big supporter. >> he was a good strong president that kept his promises. and put a woman on the supreme court and of course, it happened to be a woman of color. we are talking about infrastructure, jobs, all of that, he absolutely did it. before we go, thank you very much, before we go, we have questions regarding project 2025. will be breaking down that document piece by piece. how this will take away your rights and reshape how you live