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coverage on this very big night. we are super happy to have you with us. i'm rachel maddow here with my colleagues lawrence o'donnell and stephanie ruhle and alex wagner and jen psaki. a huge cast of characters. the whole team is here, the whole clown car has been unloaded. do you care about politics? do you have any feelings about who you would prefer to win the next election? about who would be a better choice or a worse choice as the next president of the united states? if you do have those feelings, what were you planning on doing about it this year? because there are about 105 days left until the presidential election so if you are going to do something about those feelings you have about politics, you know, tick tock. time is short. were you planning on doing

something or just watching? yesterday something happened that suddenly made a lot of people hear that tick tock sound a lotted louder than before. before yesterday, the biden harris reelection campaign was apparently getting nationwide each day, maybe a couple hundred calls a day? people saying they wanted to volunteer for the campaign. they were signing up to volunteer for the campaign. yesterday, the campaign says they signed up 28,000 people. to volunteer. 28,000 people signed up to volunteer for the campaign in one day. more than 100 times before. the moment joe biden said he would pass the torch to his vice president, look at what happened to the fund raising. one of the big democratic

superpacs future forward. they are very big. before yesterday, they had $122 million cash on hand which is big. but that's before yesterday. on top of that, yesterday in one day, they said they received $150 million in brand new pledge donations. at act blue which raises money online for democrats up and down the ticket, they took in $93 million in one day. almost entirely from small donations. the harris campaign says that in one day, their haul was $81 million specifically just to the campaign. $81million in one day. they say a clear majority of that was from people who were giving money for the first time in this election. more than 40,000 people who gave yesterday for the first time, signed up to make their donations recurring for the duration of the campaign. the new york times described

this as quote a record breaking showing. as democrats welcomed her candidacy with one of the greatest gushers of cash of all time. indeed, it is believed to be the single largest single day of fund raising by any candidate for any office in american history. incredibly, the republican party's nearest boast to that is that they had a great day of fund raising. a really great day. their best day of fund raising on the day their candidate was convicted on 34 felony criminal charges. and they did have their best day that day. trump raised about $53 million that day. looks like kamala harris all in will roughly double that and she didn't have to commit any felonies at all to do it. in the real world of real politics, there is no question now that kamala harris will be the democratic nominee for president up against donald trump in november. kamala harris spoke today about

campaign headquarters in delaware. she thanked what had been the biden harris reelection campaign staff which is now the harris for president campaign staff. she announced that she has asked president biden's reelection campaign manager to stay on and run the harris campaign as well. she said ms. o'malley dylan agreed. that shows you there will be some continuity from the previous campaign to this new one. but then immediately there after, she showed both in word and in deed that there will always be differences. >> you know, a many of you know before i was elected as vice president, before i was elected as united states senator, i was the elected attorney general i have mentioned of california. before that i was a courtroom prosecutor. in those roles i took on perpetrators of all kinds.

predators who abused women. fraudsters who ripped off consumers. cheaters who broke the rules for their own gain. so hear me when i say i know donald trump's type. >> president joe biden has covid. he is still isolating at home. he phoned into that event today at campaign headquarters. they put him on speakerphone over the pa system. it was a little bit like the opening bit on charlie's angels where the disembodied voice of charlie comes on speakerphone and the angels get ready for their assignment. there are a lot of different ways to do these counts but tonight the associated press is reporting that kamala harris has already pledges from well over a thousand of the roughly 2,000 delegates she will need

support from in order to formally lock up the nomination. the law firm where former attorney general eric holder is a partner has taken on the task of vetting possible running mate options for vice president harris. they are vetting the possible vp running mates. her campaign has been rolling out endorsements from major democrats all day including from former house speaker nancy pelosi, the immensely influential speaker ameritas. major endorsements from labors. we will be speaking just a few minutes here tonight with the fire brand leader of the united auto worker shawn feign. our eyes on the other side of the aisle where the republicans seem to be deeply unhappy with this change on the ticket. the current house speaker mike johnson is threatening to bring

a lawsuit for some reason. he will try to sue the democrats into not making this change. the group behind project 2025, the heritage foundation also saying they want to bring lawsuits to stop vice president harris from becoming the nominee somehow. we'll be speaking momentarily with tim alberta who is reporting among other things today that there is a somewhat panicky rising wave of regret on the republican side, regret within the trump campaign that not only did they not plan for a change in the campaign like this, but specifically, there is some buyer's remorse that they picked the unknown hard right weird tech bro jd vance. the most extreme candidate of everyone they vetted to be trump's running mate. if the best thing about jd vance was the money he brought with him, well kamala harris as the democratic opponent of this ticket just brought in more money in one day than any

candidate for any office has ever raised in the history of the united states. so if that was the one straight ahead benefit of jd vance, today feels like a different day. for that calculation. trump campaign officials are now acknowledging that the selection of jd vance was quote something of a luxury. meaning vance is someone they knew would not persuade a single swing voter who wasn't already planning to vote for trump. but before yesterday, they didn't think they would need to persuade anyone. it's a whole new day today. we will be joined in just a moment by u.s. transportation secretary pete buttigieg. but first, let's start here. lawrence, you got out of a boat, came back to land when you weren't supposed to be here. >> don't let the camera sneak around and see the boat shoes. yes, racing to this coverage.

so you know, kamala harris has had the single best first day of any presidential candidate in history. and that was yesterday. she also just had the best second day in history of any presidential candidate and has quickly snuffed out this dream being thrown around by the people who were very eager to get joe biden off the ticket. this is a dream that has been thrown around the better part of a year. that we could have an exciting convention where this could be a contested nomination. there are times in their editorial urging joe biden to drop out of the race, use the word exciting. every time i saw that word exciting, i was reading the word chaos as the other alternative. and indeed, indeed, the new york times yesterday afternoon used the word chaos to describe right away in a headline the condition that they so eagerly

awaited to get to here. >> can i interject here? i love the new york times with the heat of a thousand suns. but their editorial page on this issue was a megaphone on repeat for not just weeks but months. biden must get out. biden must get out. and then as soon as biden gets out, chaos! biden is getting out! it's so terrible! i don't know what's going on at the new york times but their editorial position is so chin out! so confident, while simultaneously being so internally contradictory and ridiculous. i have so much respect for the new york times but they are on planet somewhere else. >> still and i always say this when i criticize the times, best newspaper that is available to us. and remains that even on its bad days. but one of the things that the times did not know, until i had

to reveal it on television because it didn't exist as a fact in political media in america until february, urging biden to step aside. none of them knew that the money could only go to kamala harris. so they were throwing out this idea without the vaguest understanding of something that everyone knows is one of the most important if not the most important elements in political campaigns. money, none of them knew anything about this when they were throwing this around. so they learned gradually. and i wasn't countering their arguments but only the things they didn't know including the massive structural advantage that kamala would have and the extreme reluctance anyone would have to want to run against her. they were throwing out the names of people including gretchen whitmer after she said

she wouldn't do it! they wouldn't believe it that everyone wouldn't eagerly want to get this nomination which would be if it were anyone other than kamala harris, the single worst way of running for president. you get a hundred day campaign and start with zero. good luck! >> steph, i was thinking of you when we were looking at the fund raising numbers today. not only because you are like i feel my money adviser on these things but also because i feel like there's been so much attention to the sort of excentric right wing billionaire. >> we have already heard the likes of other tech billionaire, reed hoffman will be giving more to this campaign than he did in biden's last which was $10 million. but look at act blue yesterday. $50million. not from three or four people from scores of americans and every vote counts so that is hugely important. but i want to make a point about chaos.

chaos is going to ensue. i'm looking at the chaos. because there are two points in democratic history you could look at when joe biden was running last time. we had all of these primary candidates. klobuchar was up. buttigieg was up. over the course of one weekend, joe biden wasn't even up at the time. poof, he became the candidate. we spent the last three weeks with democrats panicking, yes it took some time and was painful. joe biden makes the announcement. look at the money and endorsements that came in over the last 24 hours so new york times can take their chaos. i'm looking for it. >> the consolidation of the democratic party around this. the opposite of chaos. it is not just consolidation that there are not other candidates trying to get their name in. aside from mike bloomberg or whatever that was. >> joe manchin. >> right. it would help to be a democrat if you want to say a thing

about democratic politics. anyway, not only is there nobody else jumps in, but to have the consolidation of endorsements and the clarity it will be harris to have the energy, optimism, and frankly organizations. >> all the animal just got under it. >> the smartest thing she has done is go to the headquarters in delaware for a couple of reasons. i talk today a lot of the staff there. i worked with a number of them. they love joe biden. they love her too. but she went there and said to them, i love you guys. i love joe biden and we are going to win this thing. that is incredibly powerful and she gave them some direction. she also did a stump speech which a lot of us have seen. most of the american public hasn't seen that stump speech

and you played a clip of it there that i think a lot of people watching were like yes! i have been waiting for that! she has done versions of that. people haven't seen it. and it would have been very understandable. i spent a lot of time on presidential campaigns. i got to pick my vice president. write my convention speech. i'll see you guys in a few weeks and she didn't do that. that is one of the smartest things she has done in the last 36 hours. >> i feel like one of the data points was the drag he posted down ballot. the act blue numbers really stand out to me. that is not just about kamala harris. that is not just about the presidential race. this is democrats up and down. look, i think it is amazing to see the democratic party move so swiftly. this is not 1968 by a long stretch. this is also going to be really tough. this will get nasty and brutal.

we got 106 days to go. but the fact of the matter is it is undeniable this move is reinvigorating the party. it is declared to the nation the democratic party sees trump as an existential threat. they are not f-ing around and that will serve the party up and down the ballot. the presidency is extraordinarily important but so is the house and the senate and that should not be ignored. >> and we are seeing in campaign events the democratic senate candidates for example sprinting toward harris. not just endorsing but planning events. when tammy baldwin couldn't get within 200 miles of joe biden. >> they want to talk about it. you will see them on our networks with greater regularity. >> the only campaign event this compares to is 1972 when the nominee had to drop his vice

presidential nominee after the convention and find a new one. and it is not as if they found a great one. they found someone who had never held elected office before but at least he was related to the kennedys but it was a desperate chaotic situation and it felt desperate and chaotic and hopeless. and the whole sensation of that was a sinking feeling. this, starting 20 minutes after joe biden made his announcement yesterday, has been a surging feeling. all of that credit for these first two days and the way this seamless transition in a campaign, a transition that has never occurred before has happened is entirely thanks to joe biden. entirely thanks to the way he managed yesterday. makes the gigantic earth shattering announcement that goes around the world. gives it 20 minutes. kamala harris should be our candidate full endorsement. and you just watch all that

endorsement energy pouring toward her from other people. they don't want to will the last one on. those who still have a political future want to get on soon and you watch the money surge. young david hogg told me by the end of the day, he personally just had raised $250,000. from contributors all under 30. just an incredible surge of energy because of the way joe biden orchestrated yesterday. >> 28,000 volunteers. put themselves forward in one day. it wasn't like it was a big pitch. 28,000 people stood up and volunteered. so cole, what do you make of the first, not even 24 hours plus? >> i am often on the air when vice president harris is on the air. every time there is one, we

have taken it live. she has been electric on the campaign trail. always a superb candidate. over the last three-and-a-half weeks there was this feeling she was carrying the emotional weight. all that burst into public view. i was on the air when the president called in. and she came out and acknowledged him after he addressed the campaign. we love the bidens and he chimed in and said i'm watching you kid, i love you. contrast that with the reason jd vance was on the ticket is because donald trump's vice president, not only did he not love him, he called him the p word and left him to be hung by his own supporters. you could always make an argument that you have to craft through an ad agency or exquisite speech. that is why there are so many political ad makers. the best way to communicate is

by showing people your story. biden and harris and whoever she picks as her running mate will be one they can show and this chemistry is electric. it is genuine. it is real. and it is rooted in something positive and forward looking and you have to go back and watch thursday night's speech which i think we all maybe lost a year of our lives sitting through those 11 hours. but you know, go back and watch that speech. and then watch the stump speech that vice president harris gave today. and i agree with alex that it will be ugly because the core of the republican party is fear based. it l feel like a righteous campaign. you will be on the side of the entire pro democracy coalition which now owes joe biden and kamala harris all of their effort. all of their work. and a sacrifice that rivals the one joe biden made yesterday at

1:46 p.m. >> troy read, our trend, you have been invoked so you get doubly brought into the conversation right now. i know you just had your show. what is your reaction? >> i got to be with nicole. it was amazing. i will amplify everything you have said. what you see in vice president harris and president biden is a genuine partnership. they have genuine affection for each other, their families are friends and they have had a real partnership. and the handover, it calmed the chaos in the party. that's the president's job. to take the chaos around them and to calm it and to organize it into something productive. president biden showed why he picked her. why it was smart to pick her. and in blessing her, he not only calmed the chaos, he created an electrifying result.

i was on that 44,000 person black women's call last night. it was onto 1:15 in the morning. they raised $1.5 million in an hour-and-a-half. these are people who gave as little as $13. i have not seen that kind of energy since 2008. and i will contrast that with donald trump. who picked his running mate because his son don jr. and tucker carlson liked him and he made the biggest mistake in modern political history. they are going to send women running to the party of the future. >> i heard that is about the fifth time today i have heard that analogy to the energy of 2008. you are not hearing it i think from anybody who is picking any particular metric. but talking about the feeling. the enthusiasm and the let's go feeling happening among those supporting the democratic

ticket. thanks to both of you. we'll be back with you. joining us now is pete buttigieg. we should note he is appearing in his personal capacity. not in his official one as a member of the biden administration. mr. secretary, thank you so much for being here. we are really happy to have the chance to talk with you. >> thanks, thanks a lot for having me on. and for tonight's purposes since i am on in a private capacity, please just call me pete. >> i will find that uncomfortable to do so and so i will try to awkwardly avoid calling you anything. let me ask you about personally, what these last few days have been like for you. obviously, you ran for president yourself in 2020. you are a member of the president's cabinet. you have endorsed vice president harris in her presidential bid. what is your few days been like? and how are you feeling tonight? >> it has been an extraordinary

few days. i was on a plane maybe fittingly enough, we were making our way back home to michigan after appearing with the vice president harrison saturday for a fundraiser to support the biden harris ticket. like everybody stunned by the news and really moved to see the president do what he has done time and time again which is put our country first. it is really important to note just how rare it is for the most powerful person in the world to set aside that power. that has only happened a handful of times. especially doing it in the interest of the country and the interest of the party and at the same time making clear he is going to keep doing his job as president, leading what has already been established as one of the most productive and ben fissure presidencies in

american history. and was moved more to see him support vice president harris. i reached out to her yesterday afternoon and wanted to let her know right away i was going to do the same. we had a great conversation. you know i have campaigned alongside her. i have traveled with her. i have served with her. and she will be an extraordinary leader for the ticket, for the party, and for the country as president. >> having that kind of relationship with vice president harris as a member of the cabinet yourself, somebody who has come up in parallel fashion, both very well regarded in your runs for president in 2020 in the nomination that was ultimately won by president biden. do you have anything to sort of explain to the country, to explain to the viewers about what to expect that will be different from a campaign led by vice president harris? as opposed to the campaign we were seeing from president biden? obviously they are good partners to one another and

very unified in this moment. their expressions sort of mutual appreciation and mutual love today put that in a very emotional term. how should we expect this campaign to be different with her at the helm? >> well i think we are certainly going to see consistency in terms of the values and the direction obviously. she has been a part of this historically effective administration. you will continue to see a focus on making sure that government is work and taking the side of people like my neighbors in michigan. she had a strong emphasis on the middle class at her headquarters in wilmington today. coupled with a continued focus that we make sure someone like donald trump who as always favored wealthy people like him to say nothing of the threat to democracy. to make sure that case is made. what is different is a different messenger, a different leader. has worked closely with

president biden. has a lot of consistency with president biden. but she represents a different generation. she represents a different style. we heard her talk about how in her background as a prosecutor, part of what she did was defend the public from people who ran scams at for-profit universities. people who were responsible for sexual assaults. people like donald trump. we have heard this really energizing vision. we happen to have the tv on in our kitchen as she addressed the campaign staff in wilmington. just as we were puting the mac and cheese out for our son and daughter. it was amazing when my daughter is about to be three pointed at the tv and said what's that? i just felt goose bumps as i heard myself saying that's kamala harris and she is going to be the next president. >> when you endorsed vice president harris, you said you do all you can to help her win.

would you serve as her vice president if she asked you to? >> she is going to make that decision. she is going to do it based on what's best for the country. best for the party and the ticket. i will do everything in my power to make sure that she is the next president because it is so important. it is really most of all important. it is the important thing that will come of the president's extraordinary decision and sacrifice that he made. it is an opportunity to really refocus this campaign on what it means for people around america. of course we will talk about kamala harris and her extraordinary leadership. we will talk about donald trump and his unfitness for office and jd vance and his inability to show any evidence that he believes in anything in any durable way. but most of this campaign will not be about them. it will be about the american people. and this is a chance to really

bring that home. i'm excited to be out there on the trail. when ever there is an opportunity to remind people of that and remind people that they already agree with kamala harris and democrats and disagree with donald trump and republicans on issue after issue after issue from taxes to gun safety to a woman's right to choose. >> i don't mean to be weird. and this started off weird with you asking me to call you pete. if she asked, are you saying you wouldn't say no? >> sure. we're just not in that mode right now. we are just on the second day since the president made his decision. a few people in the country know more about the vice presidency and about the weight of that decision than she does. very much trust her to make a choice that makes sense to her that is right for the party and the country. >> pete buttigieg, i really appreciate you being here. it is a pleasure to have you with us and i appreciate you

taking the time. >> thank you. thanks for having me on. all right. is that weird? >> no. you listened for one word. just listen for the word no and i don't think you will hear the word no from any of them. >> gretchen whitmer said no. she said she would not serve as vice president. she is the only person who said no. but that wasn't a no. >> not at all. >> it was an audible swallow. which i think anyone who has asked the question feels of course they want. of course he should be considered. be on the list. and there is a huge list of people who will be considered and should be. the most important thing. it is very fun to do the battleship game of this. i'm not going to lie. as a lover of politics. the most important question is not actually in my view what state they bring because who knows right? or what electoral vote. it is who is the person a president harris sitting behind the desk or whatever the desk

is wants to call and say this is a hard decision, what do you think? and the other piece of it before then, there are 105 and 106 days between now and the election. you can't have somebody with no profile and no charisma. you need someone who can go out there and raise money on their own. do big events on their own. so to me those are the big things. >> but she is looking potentially at an all-star list of people. that's not what we saw with donald trump. you can love or hate jd vance but he is not going to bring a single voter that wasn't already for trump. it is maga and maga squared. those are people who bring voters from different states and demographics and that matters. when we come back, we'll

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god bless you all and god bless the united states of america and joe biden. >> vice president kamala harris just a few hours ago in wilmington, delaware campaign headquarters. someone else who was fired up about this moment is new jersey democratic senator corey booker. he wrote online today quote for the past decade i have had the privilege of calling kamala harris a friend, a senate colleague, my vice president, my sister. i cannot wait to do everything i can to help her make history and call her madame president. jen psaki, over to you. that's the perfect cue up. the person in that photo, democratic senator corey booker of new jersey. how are you? >> i'm doing great. how are you doing? >> great! so as rachel just noted and i know, you are not just former colleagues, you are very good friends with the vice president. so i want to start with asking

if you have been able to speak with her. >> you can embarrass me. but we missed each other last night. i kept getting text messages from her staff. but i have not talked to her yet. >> that is not embarrassing. >> so i'm very excited. >> you played phone tag. >> yeah. my mom said you should make sure you are available when the vice president calls you. >> that's good advice. let me ask you. there is so much in your history. you sat right next to then senator harris on the judiciary committee. there hasn't been the debate, donald trump has been a little backing off of the debate here. there should be a debate. she should debate. talk to us about that skill set and how it would translate to the debate stage. >> yeah look. i got a chance to sit next to

her during some of the most important hearings in american history. donald trump's many of his cabinet secretary, supreme court justices and more. and i will tell you, she does an extraordinary job preparing. knowing her material backwards and forwards and has a way of geting to the heart of the matter. i will never forget her questioning of soon to be attorney general barr and talking to him about his enforcement of reproductive rights or brett kavanaugh about reproductive rights. she had a way of exposing the absurdity of an administration determine today do anything it could to undermine repractive rights. she is effective and the government will get a master class on how someone deals with donald trump. who has been in many ways able to get away in debates and more with behavior and lies and really nobody pressing him hard

on his own record and his failures and frankly criminal activity. >> we saw to your point that when she gave a speech today at the campaign headquarters, part of her stump speech but a lot of people haven't seen it before. saw how she is going to prosecute the case against trump. so you as i understand it, you played a role in encouraging her to run for senate which means you must have seen something in her that many years ago when she was still the attorney general of california. the country is getting to know her. you know her well. what do you hope the american people see about her personally or otherwise over the next 105 days? >> yeah look. she has been the vice president. dutifully supporting joe biden who in no uncertain terms i believe is the best president we have had. she was his partner in doing that. at the same time, she wasn't someone that the american public got to know at the level they get to know their president. so excitement excited for

america to discover her truth, her heart, her character. she is someone who passionately cares about people. people who are often overlooked and looked down upon. i think these are things that we need. she has some of joe biden's superpower of empathy and compassion and grace. so this is going to be a wonderful 106 days where i think america every day is going to discover more things about her. she has set a record for both parties, she has raised the most money in a 24 hour period ever. this shows a volcanic eruption. there has been a hunger for this next generation candidate. someone who represents the future. who represents our hopes and aspirations. and someone who has the kind of

policy chops and leadership ability to deliver on them. i think america now wants to turn the page and start moving towards a new generation of possibility and hope and i think that is just going to be exciting for a lot of people and more and more people are going to come on board. 60% of her donors had not been involved so it is exciting how many people she will get off the sidelines. >> the first 30 hours have been historic. my colleague alex wagner sitting next to me noted earlier, this will be a tough election. very tough. i want to ask you about all the inevitable sexist and racist attacks. we have already seen them coming from maga world and donald trump and his allies over the years. it will pick up. part of the goal of those i want to call out is to cut her down but also feed into this idea that the country isn't ready to elect an african american woman. so how should the campaign and

people out there who were worried about those attacks, how should they be responding to these attack as they inevitably come? >> well i think firstover all, you call them as they are. this election is about the american people. about who will best deliver for kitchen table economics as the biden harris team has already done in lowering insulin costs. a better future for our young people and college affordability and job trainings. the other rights and freedoms that are rolled back by the supreme court. keeping the focus not on whatever kind of slurs and hate and misogyny we will experience. we as a party are bigger than a

party. the democratic party at its best is the party of we, not me. the party of inclusion and historic diversity. women's rights. lgbtq routes. and civil rights. it is also the party of labor and unions. these are the kind of things that i think america really wants and you see trump and his vice presidential nominee trying to distort the truth of project 2025 with a union leader trying to pretend there is something they are not. the american people want to be united around an administration that really is focused on american excellence. and making sure that every american is being seen and valued. and i'm telling you that is something that kamala harris will do as president of the united states. >> senator, always an uplifting message. i always love that about talking to you. thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> what he said there about vice president harris has some

of the same superpower that joe biden has. i'm cognizant. he believes he is often underestimated but the other being his empathy. his means of connecting with people both through the television screen, throughout the mediating forces the president has available to him. but also one on one when he is looking at people eye to eye is that empathy. i think it is true. but it is also a big part of why joe biden picked her. that was the important characteristic they shared. >> i'm sad cory booker didn't mention that kamala harris taught him how to cut an onion.

they are really close. she got on face time and said cory this is how you do it. she is a legit cook and if you get her started on food she will talk about it. when you talk empathy, cooking is a form of love. and it is a form of generosity. and i'm sure we will hear about it. >> leave your note ins the comments. next here tonight, new reporting about how the trump campaign appear to be having a little bit of buyer's remorse over their choice to add jd vance to the ticket. they locked that in and then joe biden changed everything. oops. the reporter who broke that very interesting and still developing story will join us here next when our special coverage continues. our special coverage continues. >> it is so good to hear our president's voice. joe, i know you are still on the call and we have been talking every day. you probably, you guys heard it from doug's voice. we love joe and jill. we really do. they are truly like family to

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weirdest to belief. well they say it's racist to do anything. i had a diet mountain dew yesterday. i'm sure they will call that racist too. but it's good. i love you guys. [ laughter ] >> okay. if you're wondering how the trump campaign is handling the developments of the last 36 hours or so, you could just listen to jd vance absolutely rocking the house on the stump today, his first full day of campaigning. or you could consider these couple of headlines. both from the deeply sourced reporter tim alberta at the atlantic magazine. just a couple of weeks ago, tim published this important piece. the results of months of reporting from inside the trump campaign. trump is planning for a landslide win. note the sub head here. quote, and his campaign is all

but praying that joe biden doesn't drop out. that was a couple of weeks ago. this today is tim alberta's latest piece for the atlantic. after joe biden did drop out and endorsed his vice president kamala harris. quote, this is exactly what the trump team feared. a campaign that had been optimized to beat joe biden must now be reinvented. in the new political world that has cracked open in the last day-and-a-half, there is a specific regret bubbling in trump world that may be a far right freshman senator nobody has heard of who was createed in a lab by eccentric tech billionaires, maybe that guy wasn't the ideal choice to be trump's vice presidential pick. tim alberta writing today that

quote the most striking thing i have heard from trump allies was the second guessing of jd vance. a selection they acknowledged that was borne of cockiness meant to run up margins with the base in a blow-out rather than persuade swing voters in a bail biter. alex wagner, over to you. >> i too was struck with that line. now joining us now, the great tim alberta. tim, i would love it if you could please elaborate on the buyer's remorse in the trump campaign around jd vance you are hearing inklings of. but also seeing as you have a magic eight ball none of us possess, what kind of vice presidential pick do you think they are most concerned about? as nominee harris is making her deliberations? >> good evening alex. that's a really good question. let me take the first part

about the buyer's remorse. i think that is overstating it. i don't see anyone having sort of a meltdown inside trump hq at this point. but i think certainly what i detected in conversations here the last 24 hours is a little bit of a second guessing and a little bit of a counterfactual that everyone is thinking about here. because if you really place this selection of jd vance from the context of the last couple of months, donald trump was operating on parallel tracks thinking about his running mate. on the one track, he was thinking about kind of a vanilla noncontroversial caretaker type. someone who like mike pence did in 2016 could sort of provide some reassurance to voters who were on the fence about him. and that is where people like doug burgham for example were really appealing. on the other track it was the thought of picking someone who was a bold, someone who was more ideological, someone who

had more of an edge and who could be an heir apparent to the maga empire. that is obviously where donald trump became sort of enamored of the idea of jd vance. for much of the campaign, trump was leading in the first direction toward a doug burgham like candidate to nominate his vp. but it is not coincidental that as the campaign felt like it was pulling away, and getting into a position not just to defeat joe biden, but to potentially blow biden out and to have the house, have the senate be in a position to really pass dramatic governing agenda populist agenda they have never been able to establish in the first term. that was not coincidental that trump began to convince the people around him we could go

with someone like vance. now with biden out and the race resetting in this way, there is certainly now some second guessing because if in fact kamala harris is able to piece together a much more viable competent campaign and really take this down to the wire against trump, then they are going to think to themselves well, does jd vance really help us with a lot of these suburban swing voter who's were on the fence in the way someone else could have? now to that same point, this is where kamala harris if she is the nominee, her selection of a running mate will be hugely significant and i can tell you the trump folks are especially worried about two people. mark kelly and josh shapiro. both of those gentlemen are able potentially to put into play a battleground state that the trump folks were confident had been taken off the map. so jd vance doubles down on core strengths of trump but ohio was already in the bag and

perhaps he has appeal in michigan, wisconsin. but the trump people, 48 hours ago, they were talking about expanding the map about playing in virginia, minnesota, new hampshire, trying to run up the electoral score. at this point, now, they recognize that if kamala harris really gets her act together, if she really unifies the democratic party, if the democrats start firing on all cylinders and if she adds someone like kelly or shapiro to the ticket, suddenly that map is convictly contracting back down and trump is playing defense in some of the states he already thought were put away. >> a lot of, there will baa lot more reporting that need to be done and i will look to you tim alberta to do it in terms of what is happening inside campaign that was as you report optimized around joe biden. tim alberta, staff writer with the atlantic. thank you so much for your reporting and thoughts. rachel? >> we are very lucky tim

alberta was embedded in that campaign and developed those relationships before all of this happened so that we can see through him the way they have reacted to it. it is fascinating. >> on the record, deep inside the campaign with chris and susie, the two of the whole trump operation. >> if you are just joining us, just coming up on 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we thank you for being with us for our special coverage in this incredible moment in american politics. we were speaking earlier about vice president harris having made two public appearances today for the first too many since president biden left his reelection bid to her effectively stepping down from his effort to achieve a second term. and instead, endorsing her in that time. we have seen this remarkable consolidation of support for her. consolidation of support for her. her and the democratic party. >> and also an incredible wave of energy and honestly money, fundraising from donors large and small, trying to build her campaign into what looks like

is going to be a juggernaut effort against donald trump and jd vance. first public appearance today was at an event at the white house with ncaa athletes. her second appearance was in delaware, at had pain orders. she gave a little bit of a speech, little bit of a pep p talk to the gathered staff, but so did president biden. president biden not there in person, he is still isolating at home in delaware with covid. but he appeared at that event sort of virtually or audibly and said this. >>sa >> i know yesterday's news was a surprise and it is hard for you to hear but it was the right thing to do. i know it is hard because you poured your heart and soul into me to help us win this thing, help us get this nomination. the name is changed at the top of the ticket but that mission c has not changed at all. i am hoping we will get every

bit of your heart and soul that you gave to me to kamala. yo >> prez job i appearing effectively on speakerphone at hadak quarters today against still isolate with covid although we have learned since we have been on the air tonight that president biden is due to leave delaware and returned for the white house since his covid diagnosis as of tomorrow afternoon. we don't know what that means in terms of expected remarks from the president. >> to expect that he will make some sort of speech. after having made the announcement that he was abandoning the election effort. >> don't know when that speech will be there but again, prez job i will be at the white house tomorrow afternoon. he didn't his campaign staff today for pouring their heart and soul into helping him win. he asked them to now transfer that to give the same to kamala harris picked that transfer does democratic politics pick from state parties, now pledging all of their delegates to vice

president harris. all the way to congress endorsement for her and only are among the many endorsed e thus far is one that has just come from the congressional progressive caucus pack. the congressional caucus pack says, quote, kamala harris will defeat donald trump is not only because she offers a stronger economic vision but she will defend the fundamental rights de and freedoms that maga republicans are attacking across the nation. congresswoman pramila jayapal is the co-chair of the progressive caucus and she is standing by with joy read. joy, over to you. >> thank you very much, rachel. welcome, congresswoman jayapal, thank you so much for joining us. i do want to jump right in on that exact point progressive democrats, progressive caucus really have surprised a lot of p people by standing so firmly with president biden, as some the other groups were pushing him to exit the race.

the race has stuck with him and tell me the level of excitement about this shift and this handover to vice president harris. >> >> well, joy, it is great to see you, as always. look, i think that the progressive caucus has been president biden's largest lock of boats through his whole build back better everything we got done, we saw president biden layout something that was remarkable, a progressive economic vision that list of working people, taxes the wealthiest, that make sure thatl no matter who you are, no matter what your income is, no matter what your race is, no matter where you are in the country, you have an opportunity and i think that was really a huge effort for all of us to come together and help get those things done and so yes, there was a lot of loyalty to president biden. i also think that they were concerned, it wasn't like everybody was completely on the same page but i think, you

know, you can just look at the nominee needs to be in isolation. you need to look at all of the paths. so i never believed that we should be having that conversation in public. thought we should be having it o in private. but what happened happened. now i think what you have seen is a remarkable coming together nowco that president biden has made that decision to step away to endorse kamala harris. ha there was an incredible level of excitement and support for her because she is the candidate that was actually voted for just like president biden was by millions of people across the cr country delegates voted for the biden-harris ticket and so they know her and they know that she is a part of president biden's agenda as well as the past agenda, as well as the 100 day agenda at that has laid forward that he spoke about in detroit. she is obviously going to put bv her stamp on that pair what i think we all feel very comfortable that she is going to be able to build that same

fragile coalition that we had in 2020 with progressives, with swing voters, with women, black, brown, young people. there is really that energy now and so i am just really proud to be all in for her pick as i said to her, when she called me yesterday right after the president made his announcement. i 1000% and i'm going to win this and she is the one that is uniquely capable of prosecuting in every sense of the word donald trump on our rights, on our freedoms and presenting that working-class agenda, that agenda for poor people that is really going to mobilize people to know how their life will change with kamala harris as president of the united states. >> congresswoman, i just want to pick a couple of those issues. we know that there was obviously a lot of hard work that the progressive caucus didh with the president. one of the issues that there

was a divide on was obviously israel and gaza. the gaza conflict has been a source of consternation for a many younger voters and a kind v of started to peel away from him. kamala harris got a much better reception on college campuses around that issue, her presentation seemed to be less divisive. we have now seen that she will not be sitting in the well of the house when the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, gives his joint address. she will not be there. to actually be in indianapolis presenting to the zeta phi beta sorority incorporated. she will be there doing that sh instead is going to meet with prime minister but she will not be there. that is a big kind of deal. i have heard from a lot of palestinian americans and some work icin an activist role sayi they feel relieved that she will be the head of the ticket because it actually reopens the door enfor some of those voters who return on the issue. what do you make of that? >> i think that is absolutely right. i had an opportunity to speak

with the vice president when she was in seattle a couple of weeks ago. about israel-gaza we spent about 45 minutes talking about it. i do think she has a deep empathy for the situation of of palestinian americans, that is more natural to her. i also think she is hearing from a lot of black clergy, as you know, this is one of the top issues in the black community. is this war. and i think that there is some real resonance with the palestinian people in a very different way. obviously she doesn't have joe biden's long history with netanyahu. she was not on the set of formal relations committee for all of those decades. d things that shaped him on that issue. i think that she has shown time and time again that she is able to call for a cease-fire for example to talk about the plight of women, palestinians women who are being killed, the fact that 85% of children in

gaza have not had food for over a day, in many cases. so i think these are things that she feels very comfortable talking about and i think there is a new opportunity to appeal to, and i am not saying it will be easy. but i do think there is a new opportunity to appeal to muslim voters, too young voters, two arab-american voters, to black voters, to labor voters these are all folks who care about this issue and think that benjamin netanyahu has basically done everything to stop any kind of a cease-fire for peace agreement and so i think that is a huge opportunity. and i think she is going to be able to really shift the calculus. >> congresswoman pramila jayapal, i will have you come back, want you to talk about the api community reacting to her. all of my friends that are indian american are losing lo their minds. >> so, so excited.

is, law, and it means lotus in hindi. >> all the aunties and the api immunity are going wild. thank you very much. back to you, rachel. >> that was excellent. the first time i mispronounced, then senator harris, no, think she was then attorney general harris's name i got like 17 calls from friends, 15 of them were indian american who are like just think it is okay, all right, never forget it again. it is burned into me. . all right, over the last few weeks the democratic party over what was going to happen with the presidential ticket took one of the one of the sharp observers in the process, sharp observers of this president is that president biden keeps the circle around him tight. joe biden has been in politics a very very long time. she loses he has held onto key

advisers for a long time. held onto key staff for a long time. over long portions of that long record he has had the same people very near to him and that creates an intense circle of trust. around him, that is nevertheless small for one of the biden lifers who has been a key man in this administration is longtime adviser and former chief of staff to president biden and ron joins us now live mr. clay, it is really nice of you to be here with us tonight. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> first let me ask you about the president's health. i know you have been in touch with him. he has covid, we have heard h from the president's physician that he has finished his course of paxlovid. can you tell us anything about how he is doing? steve i'm not a doctor but he sounded better and very excited about the vice president's campaign. excited about calling into the event in wilmington and coming

back to washington and when the time is right, getting out on the campaign trail on her behalf very fired up about her race. >> his voice sounded strong, i have to say, phoning into that event. was i was happy to hear and then we got the news that he was going to be back at the white house tomorrow that seemsh additionally like further good news. all of that said, and i hear the sort of confidence and optimism in your voice, this has to have just been a searing few days. particularly sunday, particularly yesterday for the president. how, what can you tell us about how difficult this was for him personally? and the level of confidence he had in the decision once he decided he was going to do it. >> the president is a fighter. he wanted to fight, he wanted to to win this election and he had been on the trail since the debate very effectively, north carolina, michigan, doing a press conference after the nato summit and wanted to fight and win this campaign.

i think you came to the conclusion it wasn't possible. he has a tremendous confidence and vice president harris. he endorsed her in the statement that he withdrew from the race and has gone all in on her behalf, as all of us have. i think the people thought today in her speech why she is s going to be a great candidate. next-door neighbor in the west wing for two years pick saw her in action in the situation room and the oval office. she will be a great president. she is ready to do this job, she did great on the campaign trail. she will be great in the oval office next year. >> run, how much effort, planning, forethought sort of gaining things out was done in about trying to make this a smooth transition. trying to make this with my colleague lawrence o'donnell described as effectively a de seamless transition. the statements that came out from president biden yesterday at 1:46 p.m. eastern initially did not include the endorsement less than half an hour later. >> then set out a second statement unequivocally and

clearly endorsing vice president harris picked that set off a remarkable consolidation and wave of energy and the democratic party that has a very clearly established that she will be the nominee and nobody is obviously, and said that they should be the nominee instead. u how much of that was natural and organic? how much of that was orchestrated was planned was gamed out in advance? >> i think it was all natural and organic if the president, as he said today, loves the vice president. his first decision was to pick her to be his running mate. that he believed she was right person to take over if he couldn't. he worked with her every day for the past three years and saw her in action picks off the advice you gave the situation room, in the oval office. works at it on capitol hill to pass his agenda. and so she has

been a partner in getting all the time. the support for her is natural and look, the reality is she is the only person other than joe r biden to get 80 million votes in this country. this is not some kind of coronation. she is the product of a popular process that put her in the vice presidency. and she is the choice of, i think, the democratic voters pick and we will see this as this process unfolds and peopleh saw her campaign today. she is a great campaigner and i think it is absolutely natural that people rally behind her. >> ron, today the dnc chairman, jamie harrison announced that the party will deliver a presidential nominee by august seventh which means there's not going to be any choosing a nominee at the convention. this is not going to be 1968. establishing the planes, setting up the rules, the memo about how this is going to happen. seems pretty clearly that this is going to be not only not chaotic but an orderly fashion that is within the rules as everybody understands them. as far as the dnc is handling this. the plan to do a virtual

nomination, virtual rollcall ahead of the convention itself, does that all seem right to you? obviously there's different ways they could have approached this. does this seem like the right approach? >> it is the right approach, i think, rachel. first of all, it is functioning the same as doing the convention the same. the people of the delegates th will vote, they will just vote early. so we can make sure that vice president harris's name is on the ballot in all 50 states. n our convention is unusually late this year because of the time of the republican convention and the olympics. as a result, to make sure that she is on the ballot in all 50 states, we need to confirm the parties nominee before the early august deadlines in a handful of states, particularly in ohio where there's all kinds of chicanery around this. so i think being careful about itul, again, doesn't change the outcome here. the delegates still vote. they are just going to vote advising a different mechanism than they would in chicago. the same people, same votes, same delegates, same way of choosing the nominee. just a couple of days early.

>> one last question for you, t ron. what should we expect from president biden in terms of campaigning with his vice president? this is an unusual circumstance where you got effectively a re- election campaign with the incumbent president in what will be a supporting role on the campaign. what will that look like? what should we expect from the two of them in terms of joining forces to try to win in november? >> what, i think this is her campaign. people want to see her out there bringing the message like she did today in wellington. i think the president will join herman that is helpful and effective however, she asks, he has a job to do and he is president of the united states, he will do that job first and foremost but when she was him on the campaign trail to be out there, just like president obama campaigned in the closing days of the 2020 election for president biden, just like some appearances by president clinton on behalf of vice president gore in 2000. things you have seen in the past. the time and place and it is

effective and it helped rally voters. she will ask him to come out on the campaign trail and he will do it. he can make a very strong case for her. he helped run with her every day for the four years. he has seen how effective she is and he feels very strongly about her election. so will be out there with full voice and full throat telling voters what he knows, this is a person who is a great candidate for president and will be a great president next year. >> president biden's former white house chief of staff. thank you so much. i am sure you have not slept in a few le weeks. really appreciate you being here with us tonight. thank you. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> since last night kamala harris has been piling up endorsements from the major labor unions in the country, incredibly important constituency in this country in democratic politics. the republican party is trying to make a play with the notable exception of the united auto workers union. a lot of labor unions have already come out and endorse kamala harris. now uaw previously endorsed joe

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>> we are fighting to protect the sacred right to organize. we are protecting the sacred right to organize because we know when unions are strong america is strong.

>> vice president kamala harris just two months ago addressing seiu, service employees international union. one of the biggest labor unions in the country. after president biden announced that he would no longer seek re- election and endorsed vice president harris, seiu was one of the first big unions to announce their endorsement for harris for president, as well. since then, there has been a wave of labor support for harris with endorsements from big labor unions and labor groups including the american federation of teachers, the international brotherhood of electrical workers. the united farmworkers, transit unit, the international union of painters and allied trades. the united commercial workers international union. communication workers of america , american federation of state county and municipal employees. america's largest federation of unions, the afl-cio. they all have cannot endorsed kamala harris as president of the upstate pick one high profile union that has not

explicitly endorsed kamala harris yet is the united auto workers, uaw. earlier this year the uaw endorsed president biden after he became the first sitting president ever to walk a picket line, striking auto workers. ever since the uaw's endorsement of joe biden. donald trump has been lashing out at the union and shawn fain. donald trump even made a weird non sequitur ad lib. in his discursive unending convention speech that the shawn fain should be fired for delegates was like are you coughing for that? in a statement after joe biden's announcement that he would no longer stand for re- election, the uaw made a point of saying this, quote, vice president kamala harris walked the picket line with us in 2019 along with president biden has put work in jobs arctic communities like ohio and belvidere, illinois. the path forward is clear. we

will defeat donald trump and has billionaire agenda and elected a champion for the working class to the highest office in this country., that statement, uaw. >> all right, thanks so much, rachel petronius night is united auto workers president, shawn fain. thank you so much for joining us this evening. so rachel just gave a very long list of all of the unions that have endorsed kamala harris, the vice president who is now going to be the likely nominee. united auto workers, are you ready to do a netlist and make an announcement tonight? >> thank you for having us. look, we have a process we follow and just like anything, let's be real, the last couple weeks have been a very i got to

tell you it is a bittersweet moment. greatest president of my lifetime. president of my lifetime and i will say that the only thing and could you ever imagine donald trump putting his ego aside and doing what is right for the country? it never happened. so with vice president harris, have a process we followed. in charge of this and we will be discussing things over the next few days. and then choosing that path forward to make announcements as we deem fit. so one thing i do know with president biden, first president in history to join striking workers on a picket line for kamala harris was right there with us in 2019 when donald trump was president. you know where donald trump wasn't in 2019? he sure as wasn't on a picket line. >> no question about that. i traveled with president biden

to visit union workers and i know that the support and the response is really incredible. tell us what you said, it is a couple of days maybe for this process. is there a deadline or a timeline we should anticipate and what exactly is your executive committee looking for as vice president harris was, of course, it is the biden harris agenda and every thing they fought for are the things that i assume they supported when they endorsed joe biden. >> yes, so we are looking at a lot of things right now. we have our team looking at other people, not as presidential candidate. we feel like we have an obligation to represent working-class interest so we will have those discussions with vice president harris's team and we want to have input and talk about what we are seeing and what we are hearing from our members and we are not going to rush into throw it out there. we want to have a fruitful discussion and i guess the more we do that, we owe that to them.

>> absolutely. now let me ask you. i know there have been a lot of calls that have been happening. president biden, vice president harris, have you had a chance to speak with either them over the last day and a half? >> unfortunately, i believe vice president harris tried to call me yesterday and i was in the unfortunate situation with the airlines. a couple of flights were canceled when she did try to call, i was in the air. we had reached out and expressed anytime she is ready to have a talk with her and look forward to it. >> thank you so much, president of the united auto workers, shawn fain, we will be ready to hear what happened with your endorsement process. really appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> >> shawn fain, i will say every time i have posted shawn fain on my show before and i talked a lot about united auto workers and that remarkable strike effort that they had this year. i, he agitates people in power so much in such exactly the way he wants to agitate them.

the way he talks about economic issues, we talked the class, the way he talks about billionaires. the way he talks about the improper influence of money and politics. so get under the skin of people who feel entitled to say that they want to pick a bone, have a bone to pick with me about my coverage. >> he doesn't do in a class warfare sort of way picket is in a completely practical way and you just can't wiggle out of it. >> he is a very, very, very effective union leader and a very influential figure in democratic politics. and he drives donald trump absolutely crazy. the fact that he mentioned him by name specifically and it wasn't in trumps prepared remarks. he ad lib. an attack on shawn fain in his convention speech. >> under his skin in a very strange 90 minute speech. included hannibal lector, as well, as we all remember. he went after shawn fain and when shawn fain did a response was issue a direct link the

statement. he went after him on lordstown, ohio and not failing to deliver on his promise there. he went after him over and over and over again in his statement. that is the right way to take on a bully. >>'s day, donald trump went on to talk about who he was going to deliver for, elon musk. donald trump, in the last three days that elon musk is giving me $45 million a month, we are got to make that guy happy. you know that elon musk doesn't like? auto unions. absolutely not. that is what tesla is known for and so i was almost puzzling last week when you saw the head of the teamsters up there on the state to the rnc. the audience was sort of like ea, we want your vote, we are antiunion. >> and the vice presidential candidate zhang we are for the working class, not for wall street. the cognitive dissonance is -- >> the real estate developer in the venture capital sky are obviously working together. >> that is why this campaign needs to educate the american

voter because in this age of misinformation, jd vance's spiel and donald trump saying i'm going to come to your town work for you, kamala harris and her campaign need to show people what they are doing and what donald trump will not be doing. >> that's very right. still ahead tonight we will speak with amy klobuchar she is going to be here live on said. more ahead as a special coverage continues. stay with us. >> i am first witness that every day our president, joe biden, fights for the american people and we are deeply, deeply grateful for his service to our nation. [ applause ] l, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable

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tomorrow, vice president kamala harris will hit the road for her first campaign event since president biden has endorsed her to replace him at the top of the democratic ticket. we have just learned since we have been on the air tonight about the harris campaign. will put vice president harris tomorrow afternoon in milwaukee, wisconsin notably the city that just last week hosted the republican national convention where they clearly thought they had this thing in the back. surprise, this will be kamala harris's fifth campaign stop in wisconsin this year. this time it is likely to land a little bit different. joining us now here on set is are fred, senator amy klobuchar. to see you. the last time you were here in person i had a copy it and you had to take over my show. >> you are on the floor and i

just kept talking. >> kept talking to they could keep the camera on you while i fell on the floor coughing. >> i had layers of points about noah know existed. and i just kept going. everyone said, wow. rachel must really, to let you talk that long. >> in such detail. so what is your reaction to president biden's decision to remove himself from consideration for re-election but also his endorsement of vice president harris? >> first of all, he took the honorable path and he did it with grace and you think about his incredible career and to me it is not just the legacy that jen knows so well, the infrastructure, nato, making it stronger, bringing about the rule of law, putting ketanji brown jackson on the supreme court but it is also about moving forward in for him, moving forward as these next six months but it is also passing the torch on to the

next generation of leaders. i have my own experience with him. i gave one of my first speeches on the senate floor and it was about domestic violence. the only time slot i get there was no one there. i gave the speech and i get off the floor and the phone rings and i think oh, maybe it is my mom. my mom didn't even stay up to watch this. was joe biden. he was a senator and he called and said, hey, kid, really good job. and i noticed today went the vice president, i'm going to cry, will be the future president addressed the campaign crowd he said good job, kid. and it just reminded me about that role that he is playing and has played and that is what you're going to see in these next few months of the campaign and so many people he has fostered in their careers and their lives and i am just really excited about having run with both of them, i think you moderated one of the debates.

the very cold debate. >> your under event, it wasn't there. you were colder than everybody else i'm sorry. >> yes, and i was getting next to kamala and that debate. i just think she is going to do a great job as a candidate and as a president. she is going to bring receipts to this. he has been on the world stage, she has made incredibly important decisions with the president that has gotten our country through this pandemic and a much stronger economic position and i am just looking forward to seeing her on the world stage. >> a lot of debates we are all looking forward to pick you serve in the senate with jd vance, as well. from reporting in the atlantic from alberta that there might be a little bit of concern about jd vance maybe being too much of a own the lives choice to appeal to a broader section of the electorate and now that the ticket has changed. what you think the harris team should be looking for in a vice

presidential nominee especially when you think about it in the context of jd vance. >> i think it is going be, first of all, we have got to get to our own process, big tent. i don't see many people emerging to run, we are going to have to get through that and at the same time, harris is going to be picking a running mate and i think it should be someone she trusts, someone who augments her own skills, and someone who can step in and govern, there'd just incredible choices out there. i think she will pick someone good and i think will continue the theme of generational change. what i saw there convention was kind of a doubling down in their support, sort of the whole hulk hogan situation. and so, literally. not a good situation. just a metaphor pick it actually happened. and so that is kind of what i see happening here. this is going to be able to reach out to a lot of people in

this country. >> our colleague, joy reed is in washington and wants to ask you a question. >> hey, joy. >> mckay, senator. >> to talk to you. i have been in a wormhole of the 2016 versus 2020 demographic of the election. i think a lot of women in this country have their pantsuits from the hillary clinton campaign sort of involved in their closets and they probably weep over them every so often. was the closest that we previously came to electing a woman president. and when hillary clinton won by 3 million votes, her narrow margin of defeat in these three key swing states was because she had a huge deficit with particularly men versus what happened with joe biden. joe biden over indexed on a few demographics. men, he won them, there was about an 11 point. joe biden, he shrunk that gap. he did much better among white men in particular. he ate into that and while hillary clinton barely lost white women, she lost them 49 to 47% to donald trump despite

whole is issues. joe biden did better with white women, as well. but for that white women cohort, it is a small gap that kamala harris would have to make up is row enough to make up that gap so that white women will come home to the democratic party, which is not a normal thing. it is normally a mostly republican vote how does kamala harris close that gap and can she close the gap with men? >> i think she can close many gaps. difference, we know a lot more about donald trump than we did at that moment. we saw what he was like as president. >> saw the divisiveness and we saw what happened. the issue of abortion, you can see it from the prairies of kansas to the supreme court race in wisconsin. examine these very justices who

made this decision is going to be on the same debate stage, i hope, with donald trump who issued a video this year in which he said he proudly was the one who overturned roe v wade. i don't know how much of a stark difference you can have than that. we note the chaos that it has unleashed. we know that women bleeding out in parking lots waiting to get their healthcare. the problems were even ivf and mifepristone and all contraception are at risk that is going to be a major issue and there is no better person to prosecute that case than, harris. you're also going to have the fact that she was a prosecutor and this is a guy with over 100 felony indictments and number of convictions. so you are going to see major differences on that. >> senator amy klobuchar, are you busy? >> just a little bit busy. >> returning to washington to the senate. >> are you too busy to stay for

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>> you think you just fell out of a coconut tree? [ laughter ] you exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. >> that was vice president kamala harris giving a speech more than a year ago at the white house at an event about how to create more opportunities for hispanic americans. she is trying to make a point there, kind of an elegant point about how in order to make progress you also have to know where you came from you didn't just fall out of a coconut tree, right? but out of context it does sound -- i don't know. how does that sound to you? turns out it was almost designed and allowed to become a mean. in the last week or so, with the fervor building in the democratic party about harris potentially becoming the democratic presidential nominee, this moment has started bouncing around the internet again. this person has added sparkles as you see, this is why the governor of colorado included a

coconut and tree emoji when he endorsed her yesterday. this is why hawaii senator, brian schatz posted a photo of himself scaling an actual coconut tree when he posted his congratulation and endorsement. at some point in the night last night, the mimas occasion of kamala harris took on a life of its own. a lot of it is kamala harris being kamala harris with her distinctive belly laugh, her big signature left so some people made a two and half minute montage of just her cracking up and laughing. this is a video of kamala harris talking about how much she loves venn diagrams. >> i really do. i love venn diagrams. >> that's it, that's all it is. it is all over the internet today. here is a widely shared video of kamala harris just dancing with kids. you can set this to anything. and then there is bratch. charli xcx is a pop artist, she is a widely popular album out

the summer that is called brat. this is the cover. last night charli xcx tweeted this. kamala is brat. to be honest with you, i'm not really sure if i know what that means but apparently it is, kamala harris overlaid in green to a song off of the record, brat. i just called it a record, there you go. the coconut thing, a song off the album. >> in the context of all in which you live. >> the newly minted harris campaign is fully leaning into their candidate being maimed. they changed the album cover. this weeded out a depression venn diagram what you know is president harrison's data visualization. kamala hq have in common where they overlap, holding trump accountable.

some of this actually started with the republicans trying to go after kamala, right? they go after the kamala. they go after the coconut tree line and the like and what i love about this is as a woman candidate and as we saw during the presidential, women candidates are held to the standards that are nearly impossible to make and i love that they are just owning it and making fun of it and kind of becoming an icon because of it. and i think we have learned this overtime as we have learned what is happened to other women candidates, including secretary clinton, when they ran, they have kind of got to own some of this. while this is fun and cool and i think you're going to see the difference between maybe a biden candidacy and a kamala harris candidacy, there's going to be some differences. this is one of them. and also it shows that they are going have to run a different way to take this on because this started, some of the started, not the brat part, but

the coconut tree, started with them trying to attack her. so it is like okay, go for it. >> i thought that was kind of a campaign, it is a good campaign instinct. somebody is taking a lot for something that is not actually bad, like your voice, i like your smile. i like your laugh, you're too old, you were too young, whatever it is. they're doing it in a way that it actually isn't substantively something that you are worried about, the right thing to do is to turn it around and say oh yes, i'm going to campaign on my left. i go to campaign on these things that you're trying to turn into a negative that i know should be seen that way. it's not always easy to execute but they are doing it. the macro question. >> have been talking a little bit tonight about just what is coming her way, which is sexism, misogyny, racism. a lot of this and i think making fun of her life. i hope she never changes her left, by the way. i think it is an authentic part of who she is. kind of almost emotional before when you talk about joe biden's. just, by the way people love

him so much. but what can we expect from a harris moving forward? how is she going to take on these attacks on her that are so gross and so misogynistic and so sexist? how do you think the campaign to do that? >> she is going to do it with her head held high. she has an incredible posture. and i think that is how she has got to go pick she has a lot of it is we tell women candidates i do it all the time when they are getting started, just let it go. and then a lot of it they are going have to take them on. take them on, you've got to withdraw that line, when they call for it or make fun of it. whether you are going to own it and when are you just going to come again, make fun of it. some of it is going have to be not taking everything seriously because donald trump says crazy stuff all the time. as we saw in the hour and a half which i listened to every word. i think that is what they are going to have to decide. her general demeanor, and the way she handled things, she is not going to let it get to her because she knows she has got a

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to paraphrase president biden, the election of 2024 was always going to be a big freaking deal. now, with biden stepping aside, harris jumping in, the excitement, the energy, the jitters -- if you would like to

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